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Turn on CNN right fugging now - Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
When will this insanity stop? We don't have to live like this.

Chris Martinez's father in tears at the death of his son.

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2. Who's Chris

No, not my mole...

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3. victim in last night's Santa Barbara shooting

father just held a brief news conference


Ah... what does the NRA have to do with this?

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10. As facts emerge I'm guessing this shooter

will probably have a regiment of prescribed psych drugs , will have many people who knew him say
there was something off ,It would be nice for a change to hear what his treating physician
has to say. Blaming the NRA will prove not accurate


It won't matter. It won't matter his dad gave money to teh left and is rabit anti-gun. Or that is son (the shooter, not the victims) was rich, rabidly leftist, oviously sick, and the help he should have gotten was not there due to parents not wanting to hurt their son's reputation.

All that matters is that the left will puch to ban guns, again.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2014, 07:22:40 PM »
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Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA

The DUmmy seems... personally invested in this Chris person's story.

I can see blaming King Putt, the most irresponsible politician in the United States. Much like the left's 6 year long "blame Bush"- a-thon, we will be able to blame King Putt for every bad thing that happens for a long, long time.

But why the NRA? Did the shooter hear the voice of Charlton Heston from beyond the grave?

If I heard the voice of Charlton Heston from beyond the grave, I'd expect him to scream, "Soylent Green is made of people. It's People!"
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2014, 07:41:00 PM »
As I said in another thread, I thought California's strict gun control was supposed to prevent things like this from happening.

My BIL, sister, and their three girls are moving out of that hellhole within two weeks.  Can't happen soon enough.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2014, 06:33:31 AM »
Blaming the NRA for firearm homicides is like blaming the AAA for vehicular homicides.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2014, 09:18:37 AM »
This is an example of what really aggravates me about the anti-gun-nut faction.

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During a Saturday news conference, Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown said the rampage left seven dead — including the suspect — and 13 others injured in the hospital. Some were injured by gunfire, some were hit by a vehicle.

Three of those killed were apparently stabbed repeatedly at the apartment of where Rodger lived. Their identities have not been released.

Of those killed from gunshot wounds, two were women shot outside of a sorority house, the ....
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/05/24/315425094/shooting-near-uc-santa-barbara-leaves-3-dead

There are posts on various blog sites, newspaper articles, discussion fora, and the like talking about "mass shootings" and the need for more gun control.  There is absolutely NO mention of 'knife control' or 'vehicle control' despite many of the dead/injured being that way due to stabbings and automobile collision.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2014, 09:37:36 AM »
Leave it leftist vermin to use their own dead child to politicize something.   :whatever:

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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2014, 09:48:33 AM »
As I said in another thread, I thought California's strict gun control was supposed to prevent things like this from happening.

My BIL, sister, and their three girls are moving out of that hellhole within two weeks.  Can't happen soon enough.

Yea, thank god California has a 10 day wait period, New York style assault weapon registration,one purchase a month limit, and "clip" size limitation etc. etc.  What will they dream up next?

Is your sister moving to New York?  I would say it is a wash as far as 2nd amendment freedom.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2014, 09:57:10 AM »
Current California law on who is prohibited from owning a firearm.  Let's see how many this punk violated and how the DUmp monkeys would have changed it by adding or rewording it so that it would have prevented this tragedy.

I highlighted my guess.

 Who is prohibited from owning or possessing firearms?

    Any person who has a conviction for any misdemeanor listed in Penal Code section 29805 or for any felony, or is addicted to the use of any narcotic drug, or has been held involuntarily as a danger to self or others pursuant to Welfare and Institutions Code section 8103 is prohibited from buying, owning, or possessing firearms or ammunition. There are also prohibitions based on mental conditions, domestic restraining/protective orders, conditions of probation, and specific offenses committed as a juvenile. A list of prohibited categories is available on the Bureau of Firearms website.

    (Pen. Code, §§ 29800, 29805, 29815, 29820, 29825, 29855, 29860, 29900, 29905, 30305; Welf. & Inst. Code, §§ 8100-8103; 18 U.S.C. § 922, subd. (g), 27 C.F.R. § 478.22.)

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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2014, 10:29:59 AM »
Yea, thank god California has a 10 day wait period, New York style assault weapon registration,one purchase a month limit, and "clip" size limitation etc. etc.  What will they dream up next?

Is your sister moving to New York?  I would say it is a wash as far as 2nd amendment freedom.

Seeing that my BIL will be stationed at the Pentagon, they're moving to Virginia.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2014, 10:42:31 AM »
This morning it was reported the kid had high functioning Asperger's syndrome.  He had been seeing a therapist since he was 13.  I think there were other things going on with him in addition to the Asperger's. 

He probably should have never been living on his own.

 
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2014, 10:53:30 AM »
This morning it was reported the kid had high functioning Asperger's syndrome.  He had been seeing a therapist since he was 13.  I think there were other things going on with him in addition to the Asperger's. 

He probably should have never been living on his own.

Hm-m-m...

So did Adam Lanza, who shot-up Sandy Hook.

How many Proglodytes run around saying they have Asperger's (so they can collect disability)?

Aren't they also bitter, angry fantasists?
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2014, 11:06:28 AM »
Hm-m-m...

So did Adam Lanza, who shot-up Sandy Hook.

How many Proglodytes run around saying they have Asperger's (so they can collect disability)?

Aren't they also bitter, angry fantasists?


There sure seems to be a common thread with these mass murderers.  I understand that Asperger's is on the same spectrum with autism, and we now have one out of every 58 births as being diagnosed with some degree of autism.

I think this is an area that really needs a lot more attention than it's getting, especially when these kids (mostly boys) hit their late teens/twenties.



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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2014, 11:10:01 AM »
The problem is a lot more related to the ACLU than the NRA.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2014, 11:16:55 AM »
Wasn't there a more recent event where a kid went on a rampage stabbing his school mates?  What ever came of that?



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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2014, 02:35:54 PM »
Calif. shooting suspect feared police would discover his plan weeks before rampage
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/24/at-least-3-dead-in-shootings-in-santa-barbara-area/

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Earlier Saturday, attorney Alan Shifman issued a statement saying Peter Rodger believed his son, Elliot Rodger, was the shooter. It was unclear how the son would have obtained a gun. The family is staunchly against guns, he added.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2014, 02:42:17 PM »
Wasn't there a more recent event where a kid went on a rampage stabbing his school mates?  What ever came of that?





Yes, there was. It happened at Franklin Regional Senior High School on April 9, 2014. Alex Hrisbal is in custody and awaiting trial.

Complaint: School stabbing suspect said, 'I have more people to kill'
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/25/justice/pennsylvania-school-stabbing/
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2014, 04:10:18 PM »
I dunno.

I think Chris died because of Elliott.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2014, 04:15:04 PM »
I dunno.

I think Chris died because of Elliott.

That what I am thinking too.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2014, 04:30:31 PM »
I'm wondering about something.  If this DUchebag was such a social misfit that he couldn't get laid, one could assume that he didn't have a job.  How'd he get the money to buy the weapons--his 'gun-hating (by their own admission)' family?  Wouldn't they be complicit then?
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2014, 04:35:53 PM »
I'm wondering about something.  If this DUchebag was such a social misfit that he couldn't get laid, one could assume that he didn't have a job.  How'd he get the money to buy the weapons--his 'gun-hating (by their own admission)' family?  Wouldn't they be complicit then?

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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2014, 03:23:04 PM »
How about mommy  and daddy take some responsibility for raising a kid that probably should have been in a home or hospital instead of let loose on the public. They gave him money and fancy car and who knows what else and I bet they didn't discipline him once when he got out of line.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2014, 06:28:44 PM »
How about mommy  and daddy take some responsibility for raising a kid that probably should have been in a home or hospital instead of let loose on the public. They gave him money and fancy car and who knows what else and I bet they didn't discipline him once when he got out of line.

Probably 100% correct.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2014, 10:50:04 PM »
How about mommy  and daddy take some responsibility for raising a kid that probably should have been in a home or hospital instead of let loose on the public. They gave him money and fancy car and who knows what else and I bet they didn't discipline him once when he got out of line.
Mommy and Daddy were divorced. This now deceased twerp probably had extreme skill playing them against each other to get whatever suited his whims. Short of hiring a call girl, obviously. At any rate, I don't think they'll be taking responsibility. I expect a lot of, "I didn't know ...," "I didn't realize ...," "I don't know what happened ...," noises from them.
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2014, 06:51:34 AM »
Will there be a new push to ban scary looking "assault" pistols now?
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Re: Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2014, 07:00:20 AM »
Mommy and Daddy were divorced. This now deceased twerp probably had extreme skill playing them against each other to get whatever suited his whims. Short of hiring a call girl, obviously. At any rate, I don't think they'll be taking responsibility. I expect a lot of, "I didn't know ...," "I didn't realize ...," "I don't know what happened ...," noises from them.

Dead on.  The family is soaked in left-wing ideology, and the main premise is "It's someone else's fault."
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