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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: JakeStyle on April 09, 2014, 04:09:35 PM
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Wow! She goes full-retard in that thread, accusing her bullies of being paid infiltrators sent to silence her and thus, suppress voter turnout. I used to think she was just odd in a funny sort of way, now I'm pretty sure that she is bat shit crazy. It's a long one.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024796856#post220
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 10:35 AM
nadinbrzezinski (132,401 posts)
220. This is what is amazing here
the negativity from a particular group of posters who have been, in a few cases, going after me for the last ten year plus.
So here is what I have to say to you, esteemed ignored list. I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
You are fixated, and acting like children, Due to the actions of people like you, we already have had one poster declare here that they are NOT VOTING. You know why? IF you are my allies, who needs enemies?
For your education, this is what an actual conspiracy looks like
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Jury Instruction—Conspiracy—18 U.S.C. § 1956(h)
The defendant is charged in Count(s) __, with ________________, in violation of _______________, and in Count ___ with Conspiracy to Launder Money, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1956(h).
A conspiracy is an agreement between two or more people to join together to attempt to accomplish some unlawful purpose. It is a kind of "partnership in crime" in which each member becomes the agent of every other member. It does not matter whether or not the conspiracy was successful. The essence of the offense is that two or more persons have combined, or mutually agreed, to do something illegal.
FN1. Iannelli v. United States, 420 U.S. 770, 777 (1975).
For you to find the defendant(s) guilty of this crime, you must be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that the government has proved each of the following beyond a reasonable doubt:
FIRST: That two or more persons agreed to try to accomplish a common and unlawful plan, as charged in the indictment; and,
SECOND: That the defendant knew the unlawful purpose of the agreement and joined in it willfully, that is, with the intent to further the unlawful purpose.
One becomes a member of a conspiracy by willfully participating in the unlawful plan with the intent to further some object of the conspiracy. One may become a member of a conspiracy without knowing all of the details of the unlawful plan or the identities of all of the other alleged conspirators. If the defendant, with an understanding of the unlawful character of a plan, knowingly joins in an unlawful scheme on one occasion, that is sufficient to convict him of conspiracy, even though he had not participated before and even though he played only a minor part in the conspiracy.
FN2. Blumenthal v. United States, 332 U.S. 539, 557 (1947).
One who has no knowledge of the unlawful plan does not become a member of a conspiracy simply because one happens to be present at an event or transaction or because one happens to commit an act which inadvertently furthers some object of the unlawful plan or conspiracy. One does not become a member of a conspiracy through an association with members of the conspiracy or by the mere knowledge that a conspiracy exists.
FN3. United States v. Falcone, 311 U.S. 205, 210(1940).
The evidence in the case need not show that the alleged members of the conspiracy entered into any express or formal agreement, or that they directly stated between themselves the details of the scheme and its object or purpose, or the precise means by which the object or purpose was to be accomplished. Similarly, the evidence in the case need not establish that all of the means or methods which were agreed upon were actually used or put into operation. Nor must the evidence prove that all of the persons charged were members of the conspiracy.
In your consideration of the conspiracy offenses alleged in Count(s)___ of the Indictment, you should first determine, from all the evidence and testimony, whether or not a conspiracy existed at all. If you conclude that a conspiracy did exist as alleged, you should next determine whether or not each defendant knowingly or intentionally became a member of the conspiracy.
That is the legal definition of the term.
For the last forty years there has been an effort to call anything that people in power do not want to be discussed conspiracy. I am sure at this point that you will call me antisemite, or the less polite term, jew hater, as well, why? The link you did not like. It is the height of irony since I have no idea how the daughter of a holocaust survivor can be, but do carry on. I am sure you think that or will try that next. Why not? That is what character assassins do.
Unlike you, the rest of us have a life and I do not keep track of every crackpot and crazy around. What I keep track is of technology. And even crazies can at times be somewhat right. So if you want to keep tract of every crackpot and crazy, hey, we all need a hobby.
What amazes me is that you will alert or pounce on the slightest of mistakes I make. But the other day I saw a newsmax link stay up. The poster did not know newsmax is right wing. See, not everybody knows what the approved sources by you are
Given NPR used as a source has been attacked, as well as Reuters (they too make mistakes, I know amazing} it is now to be concluded that you will pounce on the sky is somewhat cloudy and temperature are well above normal right now outside my window. Go ahead, check with the National Weather Service.
I hope KPBS is good enough of a source for you, albeit local, so that is a problem I know.
http://www.kpbs.org/news/2014/apr/07/above-average-temperatures-predicted-san-diego-wee/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+kpbs%2Fenvironment+(KPBS+News%3A+Environment)
Were you assigned as character assassins? No need to answer. I know from US History that character assassination has been used in the past. This tells me, that if I am that much of a threat to somebody, just wish I knew who, therefore I am doing something right.
We now know that this is going on, infiltration of online groups. It is not new, online is the new world
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/02/25/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO
And these guys also infiltrated the media, which was far less friendly to the government back then. It is not a coincidence.
During the 1960s groups were infiltrated by the government too. It is not because they are evil, they just need to control the conversation Some of those have blown in their faces. You are not supposed to talk of the JFK assassination, it was a single shooter. Americans are evenly divided per Rassmussen
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/november_2013/lone_gunman_or_conspiracy_americans_are_evenly_divided_over_jfk_assassination
And per the WAPO poll 62% do not believe the official story line
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/11/20/poll-62-percent-believe-broader-plot-killed-kennedy/
They are having the same exact problem with 911. Here is a nice summary of polls from Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_conspiracy_theories
Regardless of what you think of those two, fact is that the control is not there, and they have attempted to marginalize people.
Ten years of this shit, I have to conclude some of you are infiltrators. I will also conclude that your job is to character assassin.
What i love about this is that this is now leading to voter suppression, and I do not think that is accidental either. What you are doing is dodgy as hell.
I don't intend to remove you from the list. Just suffice it to say, if I post local breaking news affecting millions, you will pounce, never mind a myriad of other posters do that every day.
If I post just regular news, you will pounce. never mind other posters do the same.
If I post about a local political scandal, you will pounce, never mind others will as well
If I post about a national story, you will pounce, never mind that is what this is supposed to be.
If I post about a major local disaster, you will pounce, never mind others do regularly. There is a reason I did not post a breaking news alert with the La Habra quake. IT IS YOU.
So what you are causing is to make me consider carefully what I post. It is getting to the point where I will have to ignore your screams and protests and just go ahead and POST whatever I want to. And have you ALERT on every fracking post. Because that is what you do. So happy alerting.
So there you have it. My days of walking on eggshells are pretty much over.
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Who broke all those eggs?
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So there you have it. My days of walking on eggshells are pretty much over.
I'm lost. Are we getting crunchies back, or not?
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Were you assigned as character assassins? No need to answer. I know from US History that character assassination has been used in the past. This tells me, that if I am that much of a threat to somebody, just wish I knew who, therefore I am doing something right.
Damn it!! She's on to us.
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This is my response to Coach's cousin:
:wtf2: :wtf3:
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Wow! She goes full-retard in that thread, accusing her bullies of being paid infiltrators sent to silence her and thus, suppress voter turnout. I used to think she was just odd in a funny sort of way, now I'm pretty sure that she is bat shit crazy. It's a long one.
I'm confused.
I will have to ignore your screams and protests and just go ahead and POST whatever I want to......
Since when has anybody--anybody, from anywhere--restrained the cousin from posting, unless it's her husband who's tired of her making him look bad, or her editor, who's similarly tired of nadin making her look bad?
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tammywammy (19,584 posts) Wed Apr 9, 2014, 01:53 PM
221. What's amazing is you supposedly have all these people on ignore and yet
You know who/what is posted in your thread.
Since you posted on Facebook that DU is a "cesspool" why are you even here? And don't you think, publicly calling the place where you post such a name would result in people thinking even less of you? Or how about you post bullshit sources/stories and get pissy when you get called on it.
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SidDithers (31,864 posts) Wed Apr 9, 2014, 02:14 PM
222. You posted an article written by a guy who, on his site, said...
"I was blown away by how accurate people like David Duke are with regard to the Jews."
Authors like that have no place getting exposure at DU. When you bring a piece of shit anti-Semite like that to DU, you're gonna get called on it every ****ing time. Loudly.
Most DUers, if they inadvertently used a source like that, would say something like "Oh shit, I didn't know that Jim Stone was such an asshat. Sorry for bringing him to DU.", then they would delete the link to his dumbass ramblings.
You, on the other hand, chose to defend your use of Jim Stone as a source. It took you 6 edits to finally remove the link to the asshat's article.
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maddezmom (133,883 posts) Wed Apr 9, 2014, 02:22 PM
223. Good, glad you aren't walking in egg shells any longer
But I will continue to call out bad sources anytime I see them. Happy posting.
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zappaman (11,542 posts) Wed Apr 9, 2014, 02:38 PM
224. Wow.
Just wow.
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Alas! the poor cousin! alas!
You know, it's the general tendency among humans to want to like each other, and I'm among them, but damn, the cousin makes it so hard to like her.
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Yep, now she's back to her screaming headlines:
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:33 PM
nadinbrzezinski (132,411 posts)
AN UNPRECEDENTED FIRE SEASON, ARE YOU READY?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024800291
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Is she on crack??
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Yep, now she's back to her screaming headlines:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024800291
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Warpy (75,445 posts) Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:36 PM
1. One of the local drunks came by a few days ago
and pulled all my weeds for a donation. Plus, I'm in the middle of the city. Still if the winds are high enough, even the cities are vulnerable.
No, I am not looking forward to fire season. A wet fall gave fires a lot to feed on.
What I'm really not looking forward to is June. We've been spending at least 2 weeks every June wheezing from massive fires in Arizona or NM on the state line with Arizona, the mountains invisible from the smoke in the air.
nadinbrzezinski (132,413 posts) Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:39 PM
2. We have been getting air circulation patterns
that are fall like.
Yesterday they threw the kitchen sink at what would have been a very small fire. a few feet of veg best case. (It was a barbecue by the way), why? As you pointed out, a few sparks could get structures going if it is windy enough.
But when they dispatch a first alarm where from google maps it is pretty urban, you know they are damn worried.
randys1 (42 posts) Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:40 PM
3. Climate Change, here to stay
this is but one of what will ultimately be thousands of events caused directly by climate change
nadinbrzezinski (132,413 posts) Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:41 PM
4. I know, and getting info on wildfires + climate change into articles
is difficult. The link is clear but many media outlets are afraid of their more... conservative readers.
<<<notices the cousin's trying to soften up on her arrogance.
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Is she on crack??
I dunno; but whenever I see the thread headline, I imagine scenes of gigantic beach balls and china shops, for some reason.
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randys1 (42 posts) Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:40 PM
3. Climate Change, here to stay
this is but one of what will ultimately be thousands of events caused directly by climate change
Leftists will blame everything on gloBULL warming for decades...once they politically go all in on nonsense they never back away.
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Leftists will blame everything on gloBULL warming for decades...once they politically go all in on nonsense they never back away.
I always want to ask if they think global warming, or climate change, or whatever-the-**** it is this week, caused the severe winter storms of 1972, or the hurricanes of 1900, or countless other examples of extreme weather that have and will continue to occur throughout history. But it's just a pointless exercise, they are brainwashed.
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nadinbrzezinski (132,413 posts) Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:39 PM
2. We have been getting air circulation patterns
that are fall like.
Yesterday they threw the kitchen sink at what would have been a very small fire. a few feet of veg best case. (It was a barbecue by the way), why? As you pointed out, a few sparks could get structures going if it is windy enough.
But when they dispatch a first alarm where from google maps it is pretty urban, you know they are damn worried.
Yesterday they threw the kitchen sink at what would have been a very small fire.
Well that was their problem right there. A kitchen sink, by itself, really doesn't have any fire suppression properties. They should have thrown water or something on it.
And nadin, as for the bullies, don't let them hold you back. You post anything you like. Show them you won't take their BS.
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So, the Eggshell Holocaust is over...?
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many media outlets are afraid of their more... conservative readers.
Crazy Miriam's blog doesn't even have moonbat readers, let alone conservatives.
The only other "media outlets" the nutcase has are her stupid blog and her Facebook page.
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132,413 posts????!!!!
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132,413 posts????!!!!
She is a go getter
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Borderline Personality Disorder
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How long before Der Skimmer takes her out?
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Borderline Personality Disorder
I'd say it's gone way over the borderline!
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I don't think she has an ignore list.
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Leftists will blame everything on gloBULL warming for decades...once they politically go all in on nonsense they never back away.
A new report just came out saying there has been no warming for 17.5 years and the miniscule increase in CO2 has been good for humans, animals and plants.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/09/climate-change-fiercely-debated-with-widely-divergent-facts/
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Wow, what a headache I got. :thatsright:
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A new report just came out saying there has been no warming for 17.5 years and the miniscule increase in CO2 has been good for humans, animals and plants.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/09/climate-change-fiercely-debated-with-widely-divergent-facts/
Borrowed for my other forum. If there are any good remarks, I'll bring them back.
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How long before Der Skimmer takes her out?
never
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never
Exactly. For good or bad, she drives traffic to the DUmp--some traffic, anyway. That's one of the ways he gets paid, so he's probably not going to reduce his cash flow by doing anything to stop her from posting. David Allen is a capitalist--he just doesn't like others (that he doesn't agree with) making money, so he associates with Democrats.
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She might have noticed that they're some serious contenders to DOTY so she had to step her game up.
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Alas! the poor cousin! alas!
You know, it's the general tendency among humans to want to like each other, and I'm among them, but damn, the cousin makes it so hard to like her.
But why on earth are self-absorbed idiots so fascinating top watch?
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But why on earth are self-absorbed idiots so fascinating to watch?
Some think it's the same thing as watching a train wreck about to happen; one doesn't want to see, but one looks anyway.
Me, at least speaking for myself, it's the same thing as watching an arrogant boor (or bore, or boar), waiting for the inevitable collapse, after which that person becomes a better person. Sort of like a medieval morality play, I guess.
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Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:55 PM
nadinbrzezinski (132,441 posts)
I just find those people worst than two year olds, to be honest. But this place is truly becoming a walk on eggshells mater. Next time I find a stuck clock, I won't be sharing though. Another thing to add to the list of what not to post here. This is a place that truly does not encourage discussion.
Well, now, wait just a minute.
Is she walking on eggshells, or is she not walking on eggshells?
Last night she was walking on eggshells, but this morning:
So what you are causing is to make me consider carefully what I post. It is getting to the point where I will have to ignore your screams and protests and just go ahead and POST whatever I want to. And have you ALERT on every fracking post. Because that is what you do. So happy alerting.
So there you have it. My days of walking on eggshells are pretty much over.
I don't think we want a timid, eggshelly nadin.
Eggshell trampling is the route to DUmmy of the Year victory.
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How long did the official walking on eggshells last ? I'll bet it was less than 24 business hours.
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Meaty analysis from the new bolder nutcase.
Not a trace of crunch here.
This is so meaty I challenge anyone, no matter how skilled in nadinese, to explain what she's saying.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 12:10 PM
nadinbrzezinski (132,441 posts)
19. Why did Putin threaten to take Kiev?
That is the intent of those words.
Gorbachev was a surprise, out of nowhere. The collapse was a strategic surprise.
And as far as neocons, that applies to the US not Europe. Again if everything looks like a nail...all will be neocons I guess.
Oh and don't start with the IMF and world bank, right at the moment there is a struggle for their souls between the Austrian and Chicago boys and the Keynseian. That matters since the latter is actually not for austerity and all that. But hey, I like to get some nuance with my crisis, not just looking at the evil American empire and using that lens for all.
If this was the Caribbean that lens applies by the way.
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As CC's official crazy auntie in the attic, I must say I enjoy Nads posts, like some one with a rash feels when they meet a burn victim. -----I cried when I had no shoes until I met a person with no feet sort of thing.
When I am down or depressed or feeling blue Nads comes in to cheer me up, darn and I thought I was a loony, check Nads out.
Example , Nads says someone in her family survived the Holocaust. OK so did all my family and most of the world who lived elsewhere on Earth. We also survived the Spanish Inquisition, the Black Plague, and the Irish Potato Famine.
She claims that she cannot be anti Jewish, but I tell you that does not make a hill of beans, surprising when some people turn on their own kind. Warsaw Ghetto showed that and the camps in Poland that used Jewish prisoners to introduce the gas into the chambers.
With the war heating up especially the Russian Front there was not allot of German military to be spared to guard the camps, So the Jews themselves in order to survive took on the job of killing their own people, those that did not were killed, a choice they had, kill or be killed.
We have to remember the young boys kidnapped by the American Indians who became big time warriors against the Whites moving West. Then the white girls taken and raised and later ransomed by family, brought East and escaped back to the Indians where they had more rights then they had among the society then living in an Eastern city or town.
I am wondering about Nads diploma in history, who's history and where on earth.
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I am wondering about Nads diploma in history, who's history and where on earth.
<<<have been wondering about that too.
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BSed for no spork alert.
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How long before Der Skimmer takes her out?
Doubtful. Her posts bring hits to the site.