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Title: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: franksolich on February 16, 2014, 03:07:06 PM
One thing--out of many, of course--that's always fascinated me when watching the primitives on Skins's island is that s-o-o-o-o-o-o many of them are always afflicted with one ailment or another, some so obscure or novel or unreal that I have to nadin them, to find out what they are.

I'm sure half the afflictions the primitives claim to have, don't really exist.

I have personal experience in this sort of thing; the older brothers and sisters, when I was growing up, turned into hippies, and one of the hippie tenets to which they most tenaciously clung was the idea of "better living though chemistry;" pharmaceuticals could cure all.

As if life-style decisions weren't important any more; one could do whatever one wished to do, and when the consequences began showing, well, there was the kindly doctor to give them pills for it.

Through the decades, I had ample up-close first-hand opportunity to see what happens to people who have that attitude, and it was never pretty.  Every night before I go to bed, I fervently pray, "Oh God, please don't let me end like them [the older siblings], as big as king-sized waterbed mattresses, bloated enormously from retained water.  Please God, if I have to go before my time, make it be by violent crime or bloody accident; anything, anything but that."

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It's a pretty safe bet that all primitives to one degree or another are hypochondrial; after all, one of the primary "needs" of a primitive is the need to be a victim, a victim of something, anything, and victim of an illness is a pretty safe victimhood.

There's also the primitive emotional need to be "special."  But primitives don't want to become special being exceptionally heroic or doing courageous deeds; that's too much work.  It's just easier to sit back getting special attention, special treatment, being ill.

Tied to that is another emotional need of the primitives; to be a burden upon other people.  And what better--and easier--way, than by imposing on their time and pocketbooks?  Primitives on the public dole appear especially wont to be this way.  "Look, I'm so special other people have to pay a lot of money to keep me around."

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The hypochondrial primitive, the "mopinko" primitive, is perhaps the best example of all of the above; she's alleged to have had every disease and affliction known in the history of mankind, including prostate problems and hemophilia.

She's "had" the West Nile virus, and any day now, she's going to have the East Nile virus, the North Nile virus, and the South Nile virus.

She gets everything excepting, alas, terminal diseases.

But the mopinko primitive's not the only one; another good example is dear old sweet Lu of the cooking and baking forum.  Like the mopinko primitive, she's a stay-at-home wife while befuddled bewhiskered Bill, he with the countenance of a Pennsylvania Dutch farmer, brings home the bacon.  And like the mopinko primitive, dear old sweet Lu dabbles in "art," neglecting her responsibilities as hostess of the cooking and baking forum.

Among dear old sweet Lu's encyclopedia of ailments is "sleep deprivation," probably because of excess poundage and that for some odd reason, she sleeps during the day and is up all night.  There's an easy cure for that--losing weight and sleeping at night like one's supposed to--but she'd just as soon the taxpayers through Medicare pick up all these tabs for pharmaceuticals; it makes her feel "special," other people having to spend money on her.

A third one would be the little-known (in the DUmpster) "auntAgonist" primitive, who's been battling haemorrhoids ever since Dwight Eisenhower was president; she's that old.

Her problem is one of the easiest to fix, but yet she won't do it.  She's bashful about displaying her, uh, rectal aperture for a doctor to inspect and jam something in there to permanently fix it--never mind that to most doctors, rectal apertures are nothing new to them, and they only rarely see something they haven't seen before.  There's nothing to be embarrassed about, pulling down the pants and bending over in front of a physician.

But no, it's just easier to demand pills.....especially if the taxpayers (or other insurance customers) foot the bill.
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: thundley4 on February 16, 2014, 03:16:46 PM
I voted yes, by a lot.  However I'm not sure they even believe they are sick, but they are looking for ways to scam themselves to a life of leisure.
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on February 16, 2014, 03:19:56 PM
Yes, by a lot.

It allows them to reconcile the fact they are such brilliant geniuses that should be in charge of the entire world but are constantly frustrated by events out of their control.

"I could totally cure all the world's evils if it weren't for this nagging Asperger's!"
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
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Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: Splashdown on February 16, 2014, 03:53:28 PM
I voted "Yes, by a lot."

However, I'm sure the pain, to them, is real. They believe in cradle-to-grave protection. Life should be easy. Everything should be right there within reach. When real life comes in, they react badly. Probably THE main difference between "us" and "them."

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Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: dane on February 16, 2014, 05:22:46 PM
I voted 'yes, by a lot.'

I think they need a lot of attention, and many get it through posting of their imagined (or sometimes real) ailments.

"Self Pity"  D.H. Lawrence — 'I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself.'

I do not think the DUmmies will ever reach a point where they are not feeling sorry for themselves.  This may be why they hate people who are healthier, wealthier, happier, thinner, etc. than they are.

It might also explain their propensity for self medication.
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: Carl on February 16, 2014, 05:29:55 PM
By a lot,they are obsessed with victim hood and have lifelong welfare disability as a goal.
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: Tucker on February 16, 2014, 05:37:11 PM
yes, by a lot.


That's an understatement.
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: freedumb2003b on February 16, 2014, 06:01:13 PM
They have entire THREADS dedicated to their ailments, many -- SURPRISE -- mental.

For better or worse most Conservatives see chronic ailments -- especially mental ones -- as a source of mild to extreme embarrassment.

Never once have I seen a thread on a Conservative board with "what meds are you taking?" or similar.

I have seen Conservatives chime in when people ignorantly put down true medical conditions that affect the brain, but it is rare.

Being "from our bootstraps" types, we tend to include control over our bodies as something we should have a handle on (and do via diet exercise, mental rigor, etc.)
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 16, 2014, 06:20:19 PM
Can I change my vote?  I voted "yes."  Not what I should have voted, which was "yes, by a lot." :banghead:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the default option available (JOOOOOOSS!!!!!)?
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: delilahmused on February 16, 2014, 06:23:42 PM
They wear it like a badge of honor! One of those idiots even has fake PTSD from some tornado or something she wasn't even near. How many pill threads do they have? Who cares!

Cindie
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: DefiantSix on February 16, 2014, 06:52:59 PM
I voted 'yes, by a lot'.  Is it considered hypochondria though when they really are sick bastards, they're just are perpetually in error as to what illness they're the poster children for  :mental:
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: dixierose on February 16, 2014, 06:55:04 PM
I voted Yes by a lot. I've never in my life heard so much whining..
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: Tucker on February 16, 2014, 07:03:44 PM
Can I change my vote?  I voted "yes."  Not what I should have voted, which was "yes, by a lot." :banghead:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the default option available (JOOOOOOSS!!!!!)?

At least we now know who the oddball was.  :tongue:
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: Chris_ on February 16, 2014, 07:08:48 PM
I voted 'yes' as well. 

It's my fault for being a nice guy.
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: Skul on February 16, 2014, 07:35:20 PM
Who was it that mentioned that some MD program was on TV in their doctors office?
It was funny because the DUmmies used that to develop symptoms.  :lmao:

Found it. It was Dori.  :yahoo:
Mine runs videos about health.  If you weren't sick when you went in, you can develop symptoms while in the waiting room.  :whatever:
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: franksolich on February 16, 2014, 07:49:17 PM
Who was it that mentioned that some MD program was on TV in their doctors office?
It was funny because the DUmmies used that to develop symptoms.  :lmao:

The old "power of suggestion" thing; I'm sure the primitives fall for it all the time.

I'm now thinking of another hypochondrial primitive, the defrocked warped primitive, she with the face like Hindenberg's, "Warpy."

The defrocked warped primitive has an interesting list of food allergies, and what's intriguing about it is that she's "allergic" to things good for her, and not allergic to things bad for her, such as chocolate and sugar.

She's for example alleged to be "lactose intolerant," and can't handle milk.

Lactose intolerance exists, but mostly in those with genetics from tropic, jungle, or Asiatic backgrounds.

Ms. Hindenberg, being of Gaelic derivation, ain't one of those.  In fact, she's of an ethnic group that specifically had to evolve lactose-tolerant, so as to survive.

But one can figure out, reasonably, what happened.

When Warpy was a little girl-child, she always wanted soda, not milk, with dinner.  Her parents catered to some of her whims, because she was pretty ugly, and they felt sorry for her.  However, they wouldn't cater to this one, because soda rots teeth and milk keeps one healthy.

"BWA!  BWA!  BWA!  I HATE MILK!  I WANT SODA!  I HATE MILK!"

Ms. Hindenberg was a girl-child during the 1950s and the first part of the 1960s.....about the time Reader's Digest was most influential in American culture.  This was coincidentally about the time Reader's Digest began running a new disease or ailment with each issue, including that of lactose intolerance.

One can imagine girl-child Warpy reading one of those articles, and getting the idea in her head that she was "allergic" to milk.

I'm sure similar things have happened a lot. 
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: GOBUCKS on February 16, 2014, 08:05:56 PM
Of course the answer is "yes by a lot", but it isn't that simple.

A lot of them are psychological cripples, including delusions of physical ailments.

But at least as many are feigning illness or injury, in pursuit of the holy grail of disability.
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: Tucker on February 16, 2014, 08:19:55 PM
Of course the answer is "yes by a lot", but it isn't that simple.

A lot of them are psychological cripples, including delusions of physical ailments.

But at least as many are feigning illness or injury, in pursuit of the holy grail of disability.

On DU ll there was a section where all of the DUmmies met to compare notes and give advise on how to get on SS disability. They would tell potential cripples how to reply to hearings, file appeals and contact the best attorney's with the higest success rate.

I wonder why skimmer didn't carry this section over to DU lll?  
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: franksolich on February 16, 2014, 08:22:17 PM
On DU ll there was a section where all of the DUmmies met to compare notes and give advise on how to get on SS disability. They would tell potential cripples how to reply to hearings, file appeals and contact the best attorney's with the higest success rate.

I wonder why skimmer didn't carry this section over to DU lll?  

Yeah, I remember, and it was a pretty active forum, popping like popcorn.

The primitives knew so much about it that at the time, I thought, "Damn, if I were a social security attorney, I'd toss out the lawbooks, which take up too much space anyway, and consult that forum instead."
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: kraven on February 16, 2014, 09:13:47 PM
Dude, how the heck else see they going to qualify for disability and get access to their drugs and medical marijuana. Just about every DUmmy I know of in real life has an autoimmune disease, generally one that is difficult to diagnose and has random and untestable symptoms. Or they have mental health issues and depression. Usually related to a cat in some way. If they have neither of those, they suffer from bad backs. There is no such thing as a perfectly healthy DUmmy. I know I posted this before, but I had a blind neighbor with some other type of physical disability that made it harder for him to walk that worked full time and supported himself. Of course he was a conservative.
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: franksolich on February 16, 2014, 09:24:00 PM
I think they need a lot of attention, and many get it through posting of their imagined (or sometimes real) ailments.

It might also explain their propensity for self medication.

I wonder if a primitive's ever been "allergic" to pharmaceuticals, but persisted in taking them anyway, because the doctor ordered it and other people are paying for it, and there's better living through chemistry.

This isn't quite the same thing, but anyway, when I was younger and needed antibiotics (which wasn't a whole lot of the time), I was always given the chemical stuff, rather than the real stuff, penicillin.

I asked how come I never got the real stuff.

I was told that my father and one of my older brothers had once been given penicillin, and they had some sort of bad reaction to it.  The details were negligible; this happened either before I was born, or when I was very young.  Given that, it was supposed I too was "allergic" to it, and so it was never given me.

When I became an adult and needed an antibiotic, I insisted on the real thing, as there'd never been any proof I was "allergic" to it.

The first time I took it, I got big violent reddish-purple discolorations on the skin, but nothing else.

Some years later, the second time I took it, nothing happened.  And since then, I've insisted upon penicillin, no ersatz substitutes, and it's been like strawberries-and-cream.  But again, antibiotics aren't anything I need very often; maybe once every eight or ten years.

The other thing was, with these chemical antibiotics, it discombobulated the intestinal system, which is not usually a problem with me.  I'm as regular as Hell.  Using penicillin, I remain regular as Hell.
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: Big Dog on February 16, 2014, 09:28:28 PM
Yes, by a lot.

That is all.
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 16, 2014, 09:38:17 PM
Yes, by a lot. If they were less angry and hateful, they would less likely be hypochondriacs.
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: marv on February 17, 2014, 06:07:07 AM
Unquestionably, "yes, by a lot".................

Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: diesel driver on February 17, 2014, 06:58:47 AM
I said, "Yes, by a lot!", because there wasn't a "OH HELL YES!" option.

I find it quite strange the DUmmies boast and brag about being vegans, vegetarians, eating only organic, free range, hormone free, no added flavor or preservatives, pesticide free foods, THEN turn around and post a shopping list of every known (and some unknown) disease, condition, ailment, affliction, and syndrome that has/had plagued mankind.

Leads me to believe that eating "right" makes you sick!   :lmao:
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: franksolich on February 17, 2014, 05:36:25 PM
Yes, by a lot. If they were less angry and hateful, they would less likely be hypochondriacs.

What's struck me over the years is the number of primitives who get onto mood-altering drugs--never cheap, and usually paid for by either the taxpayers or other customers of an insurance company--because someone with whom they were very close died, and the primitives can't "handle" the sense of loss, the despondency, the loneliness, the melancholy, the depression that they feel.

Apparently the primitives think one's supposed to be happy, happy, happy all the time.

They don't understand that grieving--this sense of loss, this despondency, this loneliness, this melancholy, this depression--is entirely and wholly and healthily normal.

And one must go through it; there's no way out, if one wishes to be emotionally healthy.

Yeah, it's bad.....but it passes.  One just has to give it time.

<<<has had, uh, significant experience with and copious observation of this issue.

To help it pass is one of the functions of one's priest, minister, rabbi, or imam.

But the primitives don't need God; they want drugs.

What happens is that these feelings of loss are not let out, just covered up temporarily.  They stay inside of one, building up and solidifying, getting worse and worse, "necessitating" the "need" for stronger and stronger mood-altering pharmaceuticals.

It's like what happens when the rectal aperture's sewed shut, nothing able to pass from it.

Those feelings can stay inside for decades, never dissipating, while in the meantime one's cerebral cells get fossilized and petrified, and "other people" have to pick up the tab for the drugs.
Title: Re: poll: are the primitives more hypochondrial than the general population?
Post by: Big Dog on February 17, 2014, 06:41:36 PM
I said, "Yes, by a lot!", because there wasn't a "OH HELL YES!" option.

I find it quite strange the DUmmies boast and brag about being vegans, vegetarians, eating only organic, free range, hormone free, no added flavor or preservatives, pesticide free foods, THEN turn around and post a shopping list of every known (and some unknown) disease, condition, ailment, affliction, and syndrome that has/had plagued mankind.

Leads me to believe that eating "right" makes you sick!   :lmao:

No doubt.

If the Dummies took up a diet of beef, bacon, bourbon, and big-ass cigars, their hypochondriatic natures would evaporate like sweat from Steve Dawes' neckbeard!