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Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:14 PM
Star Member Locut0s (4,972 posts)
Your view on media piracy. How strongly are you against it?
I'm not talking large scale for profit piracy. I'm talking downloading the latest Miley Cyrus song to put on your iPod, torrenting the Hobbit, making a copy of a rented film etc...
When I was in my teens I pirated a lot of crap. I'm 31 now. Back then it was just cool to have CDs and DVDs full of the latest software I loved to look up to. I got a kick out of trying out 3D studio and photoshop etc etc.. Truth is I used very little of it, it was just a "cool" hobby collecting it. But after a few years I quickly outgrew that phase and now I mainly use freeware for everything. The only software I buy are operating systems and games. I still do download the occasional movie, piece of music and the like. And sometimes I'll rent a movie and realize I can't watch it in time, so I'll make a copy and watch it later.
I really have very little against most forms of small scale personal piracy that goes on day to day. From my person experience those who do the most pirating aren't potential customers of said software to begin with. An 18 year old teen who downloads 3D Studio would never have been a prospective customer in the first place. And ironically he may become a customer in the future if using it engenders an interest in 3D modelling. The same argument can't really be made for movies and music because many of these people might be potential lost customers. Even here though I know a lot of people resort to downloading a movie or song because they actually already have bought it for one device or another but don't wish to buy it again for another. The movie and music industry has made it very clear they don't want you to be able to easily move your purchased content around much. If you bought song X for you iPod they would like to force you to have to buy it again for your android. Another reason people pirate stuff is just lack of availability. Netflix, and iTunes have a lot of stuff but not everything.
Another example are TV shows. There are a lot of sites out there dedicated to torrenting whole seasons of TV shows. Some of these sites have thousands of series going back decades.
What's your view of the types of piracy described above?
The campfire is full of lying DUmmies that will not publicly admit that they're thieving scum.
We know differently.
Response to Locut0s (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:37 PM
Incitatus (5,105 posts)
9. When it comes to movies.
I rarely go to the theaters and will eventually see them on my cable service. So by watching them early online, they are not losing out on revenue from me. In fact, the good movies I do tell friends about who them buy or rent them when they might not have. I may be rationalizing theft, but I don't claim to be a boy scout. For music, I have copied some from youtube, just like I can copy them off the radio if I went through the trouble. The Internet has just made it so much easier. I do go to concerts and if more bands sold their music directly, I would just as soon pay them a dollar a song than the pittance they get from the recording companies. I'm not saying it is right, but I do see a difference than going into a store and tossing a dvd or cd into my pocket and walking out.
Gotta love his convoluted logic. He steals the media as a public service to aid in its future exposure.
Cousin It, software engineer.
Response to Locut0s (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 11:15 PM
nadinbrzezinski (128,582 posts)
22. I am a creator and have strong feelings against it.
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Then again some of the companies we used to work with ripped us off too. So I say it is in the water.
But it is stealing from those creative minds. Since you mentioned your teens, this, song here, short story there, has driven small creators away from creative industries. Sure, the Hobbit, you will not do much damage, but you and a few million of your friends will.
To go back to those small companies who produced games (and ripped their creatives off) some have gone out of business, and you could not pay me enough to work for any of them these days. The effect, since I am not alone, is that if you play paper and pencil RPGs and you have noticed the crap being put out these days...it is because of fans tipping the companies, and the companies ripping of the creatives. It's toxic.
Mind you, in this new world copy right can't be protected really, so I foresee changes in the horizon. Some will be rather toxic to all concerned.
She's a man among men.
Cousin It, CEO.
Response to Prophet 451 (Reply #24)
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 11:35 PM
nadinbrzezinski (128,582 posts)
25. Yes and no' and I ran my own small company for a few years
Yes, there is drive through, but getting yourself to gama, gencon, let alone Comicon is down right prohibitive.
Cousin It, Author/publisher.
Response to Prophet 451 (Reply #34)
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 12:04 AM
nadinbrzezinski (128,582 posts)
36. And so has drive through
But there are glaring issues still.
I was on the leading edge of the self publishing craze. I know these days, when I finish my short stories, novels, or even the occupy book, I no longer try the big guys. But the work involved in developing a new paper and pencil rpg and the returns are simply not worth it.
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I was on the leading edge of the self publishing craze. I know these days, when I finish my short stories, novels, or even the occupy book, I no longer try the big guys. But the work involved in developing a new paper and pencil rpg and the returns are simply not worth it.
In other words, what she scribbled was so bad, no one would bother with it.
No wonder she only finished third, this year.
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In other words, what she scribbled was so bad, no one would bother with it.
No wonder she only finished third, this year.
Wasn't it Hertz who used to say "We're number 2 so we will have to try harder" ?
At number three, nadin has taken the ruck sack off.
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Nads needs to stop. It's getting tiresome, having to revise her resume everytime she decides she a expert in something new. :rotf:
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In other words, what she scribbled was so bad, no one would bother with it.
No wonder she only finished third, this year.
Well, she does have a point about the industry generally, I knew some folks from college years who did the same thing, a couple of different groups of them actually. Particularly in the gaming world before graphics-and-processor/RAM-intensive broadband-dependent internet gaming sucked the grassroots creativity out of it, the self-publishing thing was pretty much the norm, and some very successful enterprises (Some tiny few of which made the transition to true big-time) were built on it.
Of course, in Nads' case, I'm sure the content was just as horrible as her internet ravings are now, especially when you consider how much worse her English probably was back then, so you're no doubt right about that part.
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Alright, I will try a recap off the top of my head:
World class journo, life saving EMT, renoun writer/novelist, computer expert, army (captain?), and at least a dozen others I can't remember at the moment
:lmao: :rotf: :cheersmate:
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Alright, I will try a recap off the top of my head:
World class journo, life saving EMT, renoun writer/novelist, computer expert, army (captain?), and at least a dozen others I can't remember at the moment
What a woeful list!
She does more than that before breakfast every day.
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Of course, in Nads' case, I'm sure the content was just as horrible as her internet ravings are now, especially when you consider how much worse her English probably was back then, so you're no doubt right about that part.
Well DAT, there is only one way to find out:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=nadin+brzezinski&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Anadin+brzezinski
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Wow.....Loconuts, you may get out of your parents basement sooner than you thought, and you won't be pirating anything where your going, except for maybe an extra cookie for your lover.
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Wow.....Loconuts, you may get out of your parents basement sooner than you thought, and you won't be pirating anything where your going, except for maybe an extra cookie forfrom your lover.
Being a DUmmy and all, he would be the catcher.
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Well DAT, there is only one way to find out:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=nadin+brzezinski&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Anadin+brzezinski
Did you see what one of the results for that link were? (Check the left side of the book cover.)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SqOLkjuUL._SL160_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-dp,TopRight,12,-18_SH30_OU01_AA160_.jpg)
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Did you see what one of the results for that link were? (Check the left side of the book cover.)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SqOLkjuUL._SL160_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-dp,TopRight,12,-18_SH30_OU01_AA160_.jpg)
Hahah! That's great. :lmao:
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Did you see what one of the results for that link were? (Check the left side of the book cover.)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SqOLkjuUL._SL160_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-dp,TopRight,12,-18_SH30_OU01_AA160_.jpg)
I'm always impressed with the algorithms which Amazon uses to make recommendations - but this one reaches new heights.
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Well DAT, there is only one way to find out:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=nadin+brzezinski&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Anadin+brzezinski
I see there were no reviews written for those products. :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
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Well DAT, there is only one way to find out:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=nadin+brzezinski&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Anadin+brzezinski
Only in nadin's Land of Make Believe is a used book worth more than a new one.
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I was on the leading edge of the self publishing craze. I know these days, when I finish my short stories, :-) novels, :rofl: or even the occupy book, :rotf:
Heh... yeah, right.
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gNads
To go back to those small companies who produced games (and ripped their creatives off) some have gone out of business, and you could not pay me enough to work for any of them these days.
It's a shame your crappy creations drove those companies out of business. I'm sure no one else is working for those out of business companies either.
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But the work involved in developing a new paper and pencil rpg and the returns are simply not worth it.
gNads paper and pencil rpg development and testing session:
Volunteer unpaid tester "I rolled a 22, what does that mean?"
gNads : "A roll of 22 requires you to don a onsie and have your picture taken holding a cup of hot chocolate".
:rotf:
CMD
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gNads paper and pencil rpg development and testing session:
Volunteer unpaid tester "I rolled a 22, what does that mean?"
gNads : "A roll of 22 requires you to don a onsie and have your picture taken holding a cup of hot chocolate".
:rotf:
CMD
That one earned you a high five.
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you could not pay me enough to work for any of them these days.
Wouldn't that beat working for Miriam for free?
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Wouldn't that beat working for Miriam for free?
She doesn't work for Miriam totally for free. I think perhaps Miriam has treated Nadin to at least one Golden Corral buffet for her hard work. You know, they have those chocolate fountain thingies, something civilized people wouldn't dip their treats in to for a million bucks.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKuuHE3LRlc[/youtube]
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She doesn't work for Miriam totally for free. I think perhaps Miriam has treated Nadin to at least one Golden Corral buffet for her hard work. You know, they have those chocolate fountain thingies, something civilized people wouldn't dip their treats in to for a million bucks.
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i134/bravo88889/Jake-052.jpg)
Waiting for the chocolate to come out.
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(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i134/bravo88889/Jake-052.jpg)
Waiting for the chocolate to come out.
[DU mode] Is that Romney's adopted Dog?
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She doesn't work for Miriam totally for free.
No, it's not for free, it's worse.
No pay is just part of the situation.
Crazy Miriam doesn't even spot her the cost of gasoline to visit vacant-lot grass fires with The Good Rig.
Crazy Miriam wouldn't even loan her a lapel mic for her iPhone.
Crazy Miriam barely acknowledges that nadin exists among all the other moonbat "contributors" to her blog.
The boss is a hard case.
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[DU mode] Is that Romney's adopted Dog?
:clap: :clap: :clap:
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That one earned you a high five.
Thank you, Sir. :II: