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Oh my.
Now, really, it's not anything anyone wishes to happen, but none of us has any control over others, only ourselves.
reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 04:25 PM
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Poll question: How many of you have tried to kill yourselves?
We have had several posts recently dealing with suicide attempts. I was very depressed when I became a teenager in the 90's and realized that the USA was a dog eat dog **** you I got mine society where helping others is viewed as being weak. I tried to off myself 2 times, once with pills and booze and once I tried to cut my wrist open at work an make it look like an accident so my parents could get money (I missed the vein by less than a centimeter).
I am better now because, as someone said in another thread, I will fight the bastards ruining the USA and the world until I die by means other than suicide. I know this poll is a bummer but I was wondering the percentage of folks here who have tried suicide at least once. Feel free to share your reasons as I am curious to know what pushes us to try. Peace and I hope that any of you contemplating suicide now can find some kind of solace other than death.
Poll result (229 votes)
Yes, I tried to kill myself before (64 votes, 28%)
I contemplated suicide but never tried (100 votes, 44%)
I never contemplated nor tried suicide (65 votes, 28%)
Now, if the primitives answered the survey truthfully, 72% of them thinking about self-destruction, that pretty much appears accurate. Among decent and civilized people of course, 72% would be extraordinarily high, and one doubts it's even a tenth of that.
Hate makes people self-destructive.
It's a very large bonfire on Skins's island.
reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 04:35 PM
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4. good question
On purpose I guess, but doing "stupid" things like blindly running across four land roads because you just don't care if you live or die could be considered an attempt of suicide I guess.
Agreed. Emphatically.
The chronically unemployable Perry Como primitive:
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 03:24 AM
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94. Especially Christian sermons.
Telling you you are worthless and sinful because you are breathing and alive. It's called original sin -- a made up problem with a made up solution -- substitutionary atonement. A huge scam.
OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 04:53 PM
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16. Yes...
Due to being put on anti-depressants for chronic pain purposes.
While those drugs may be a godsend for some......they don't mix with me.
quantessd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 03:34 AM
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97. I have had a horrible experience with anti-depressant, Effexor-XR.
Anyone considering taking Effexor had better realize they will be having nightmarish withdrawal symptoms for at least a month, and that's the best situation even if you withdraw the dosage gradually.
sfexpat2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 05:05 PM
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23. No one should be surprised at the results of this poll.
We have the best mental health tech in the world and it doesn't get delivered.
Hell, even if this poll were only for *caretakers* of people who suffer mental illness, the % would be high.
The Perry Como primitive again:
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 05:27 PM
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30. What if your family is telling you you are worthless?
My elderly, cranky, grumpy, impossible to deal with and senile parents were telling me what a horrible person I was because I couldn't find a job. This went on for years. They said "Well we paid for that expensive education of yours. We don't know why you can't find a job.". I said "I don't know either after 3 degrees and 12 years of college". The economy was going to hell in the 90s.
The more jobs I applied for the more I got depressed. If I had temp jobs, I got fired for showing initiative and intelligence, or they would make up some totally irrational bullshit excuse.
They could have easily helped me out but refused. I found this out after investigating their bank accounts after they died. I asked them if they would rather pay for my funeral, or help me pay my bills. I told them that if I killed myself, then I would stop hassling them about my finances. They said they didn't want to pay for a funeral. I really don't know what they expected me to do. They also said I didn't need a car, and they had one they weren't driving--they were too blind to do so. But they wouldn't let me use it -- where mass transit is nonexistent.
I remember calling them up crying because the dogs were infested with fleas and had blood poisoning, and I couldn't afford to take them to the vet. They wouldn't give me money to treat the dogs. I knew that if the dogs died I would never forgive myself. Fortunately I gave them my own medication to cure them.
The Perry Como primitive sings again:
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-25-08 01:43 PM
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92. It's part of the big lie society told us.
Society said, "Work hard, get a good education, and you'll get a good job that pays well, and be successful.".
So what did I do? Worked hard, earned three degrees, including a doctorate in law, and spent 12 years in college. My parents paid for that bachelor's and paid for some of the doctorate, because they went to college and believed in education. We got into the middle class because my dad went to law school at night on the G.I. Bill after World War II, and got a 4% VA loan for a house.
The B.A. and the J.D. I got were both from those elite private schools. You know, the ones where everybody who goes there has connections, and can get a nice cushy job??? Well, I didn't have the connections. None of my multimillionaire acquaintances from law school, who were pulling in over a million dollars a year just as a partner in a law firm, could lift a finger to give me a job as a paralegal. So that was a waste of effort.
As far as improving my job prospects or my income, it was a sad, pathetic lie. A total farce.
My parents believed it and it caused them to accuse me of being a failure. When it wasn't my fault.
Cruel. It caused me to waste years of time, money and effort earning those pieces of paper. Because I thought they were worth something to an employer. And society's attitude blamed me, not their bright shining lie of the worth of a college education. SOciety has eliminated the good middle class jobs, and still pushes the idea that all those people without jobs need to "go back to school and get more skills".
Bullshit.
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 06:41 PM
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46. It's a symptom of the general verbal abuse and humiliation that is rampant today.
We have TV shows based on humiliation and judgment by authority figures such as "American Idol" (fairly mild), Much more harsh are "Survivor", "Hell's Kitchen" and "The Apprentice".
Why anyone finds entertainment in severe competition and humiliation and degradation (eating worms) of the losers is beyond me.
Bullying in school and at work are rampant and encouraged as part of good management practices. Bosses smile and call it "constructive criticism" when it's doublespeak.
And mental health services are a joke.
Michael Moore documented the disintegration of Flint due to 30,000 layoffs at the Buick plant in "Roger and Me" many years ago.
classicfilmfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 07:40 AM
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104. I think about it every *******ed day
After 45 years of life I'm at the point of saying, "Jesus ****, is this all there is?" Nothing to look forward to except working for shitheads, paying bills that just keep going up and my wages don't, dealing with angry people and getting old and sick. About the only reason I'm still here is because I worry about what would happen to my cat if something happened to me.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 04:25 PM
Original message
Poll question: How many of you have tried to kill yourselves?
We have had several posts recently dealing with suicide attempts. I was very depressed when I became a teenager in the 90's and realized that the USA was a dog eat dog **** you I got mine society where helping others is viewed as being weak. I tried to off myself 2 times, once with pills and booze and once I tried to cut my wrist open at work an make it look like an accident so my parents could get money (I missed the vein by less than a centimeter).
Clinton's Presidency.
I am better now because, as someone said in another thread, I will fight the bastards ruining the USA and the world until I die by means other than suicide. I know this poll is a bummer but I was wondering the percentage of folks here who have tried suicide at least once. Feel free to share your reasons as I am curious to know what pushes us to try. Peace and I hope that any of you contemplating suicide now can find some kind of solace other than death.
Bush's Presidency.
Teh winnah. :nutkick:
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you know, I'd like to me fun of the primitives about this, but I just can't bring myself to do it. It would be like kicking a stray dog or something. They are just too pathetic to make fun of. How horrible to go through life so miserable.
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you know, I'd like to me fun of the primitives about this, but I just can't bring myself to do it. It would be like kicking a stray dog or something. They are just too pathetic to make fun of. How horrible to go through life so miserable.
I'll pick up your slack.
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I'll pick up your slack.
Too late; it's already mine.
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Perragrande
92. It's part of the big lie society told us.
Society said, "Work hard, get a good education, and you'll get a good job that pays well, and be successful.".
So what did I do? Worked hard, earned three degrees, including a doctorate in law, and spent 12 years in college.
Throw in the claim that he's lived all over the world, that he's has bedded 1000's of women, and make him a worthless, penniless drunk and the Perry Como primitive could be that liar CW.
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Jeez, I don't know who is a bigger entitlement-driven ingrate.....perragrande, or ladyhawk?
Hey Perry! Your parents paid tens of thousands in "elite" private school tuition, and you're outraged because they actually had some money left in their bank accounts when they died???
Unbelievable.
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Didn't the Perry Como primitive post some vile stuff about their dead parents before? I seem to recall this primitive being an ingrate and reading about it on TOS.
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Perragrande (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 05:27 PM
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30. What if your family is telling you you are worthless?
My elderly, cranky, grumpy, impossible to deal with and senile parents were telling me what a horrible person I was because I couldn't find a job. This went on for years. They said "Well we paid for that expensive education of yours. We don't know why you can't find a job.". I said "I don't know either after 3 degrees and 12 years of college". The economy was going to hell in the 90s.
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-25-08 01:43 PM
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92. It's part of the big lie society told us.
Society said, "Work hard, get a good education, and you'll get a good job that pays well, and be successful.".
So what did I do? Worked hard, earned three degrees, including a doctorate in law, and spent 12 years in college. My parents paid for that bachelor's and paid for some of the doctorate, because they went to college and believed in education. We got into the middle class because my dad went to law school at night on the G.I. Bill after World War II, and got a 4% VA loan for a house.
I'm still waiting to see some evidence that this lazy good for nothing shitbird actually gave the "Work Hard" part of society's advice an honest go. Looks to me like he spent a substantial portion of his adult life as a perpetual student - freeloading off his parents - and was then disappointed when he walked out into real life and all of us didn't gather around his sorry ass and throw money at him for the pleasure of his wit and company. He blames his failure to launch from an elitist ivy league Looniversity on the lack of connections to "society's upper crust" - as if it was their responsibility to make him a useful member of society when he finally had to leave the ****in' apron strings.
As someone who was providing for my own home, food and transportation from the sweat of my brow from before I graduated high school, AND paid as I went to get a 4-year enginieering degree in 8 years while I worked, my rat's ass meter just ain't twitching as he regales us with the story of how unfair the world has been to him.
As far as I'm concerned, he can find the sympathy he's looking for - in the dictionary between "shit" and "syphillus". :loser:
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"A mind is a terrible thing to waste"....so why do they bother even putting a half of one in a DUmmie?
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How unfortunate for the world that the "72%" did not succeed.
Liberals, they fail at everything.
When you consider their drug use, the DUchebags are just taking the long road.
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It just dawned on me that I too have attempted suicide. I've been eating pork chops, fried fat back, ham, bacon, hamburgers, eggs, steaks, etc., etc, all my life........it appears to be working. I'm nearer death now than I've ever been before.
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nah Johnny. It's our oxygen addiction. It's gonna kill us one of these days, man...
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Didn't the Perry Como primitive post some vile stuff about their dead parents before? I seem to recall this primitive being an ingrate and reading about it on TOS.
Yeah, she did, but I can't remember all about it.
The Perry Como primitive is the one with three or so college degrees, including a J.D., and has never held a job in her life. It surprises me that someone with a J.D. can't find and hold a job, but there you have it.
I could be wrong, but it seems to me the Perry Como primitive is in her 40s.
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Didn't the Perry Como primitive post some vile stuff about their dead parents before? I seem to recall this primitive being an ingrate and reading about it on TOS.
Yeah, she did, but I can't remember all about it.
The Perry Como primitive is the one with three or so college degrees, including a J.D., and has never held a job in her life. It surprises me that someone with a J.D. can't find and hold a job, but there you have it.
I could be wrong, but it seems to me the Perry Como primitive is in her 40s.
If a raving,ranting DUmmy with a J.D can`t find some home in the legal profession then they should be looking in the dictionary under the word "Loser" to see if their picture is there. :whatever:
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I was very depressed when I became a teenager in the 90's and realized that the USA was a dog eat dog **** you I got mine society where helping others is viewed as being weak.
reggie evidently grew up in a liberal family.
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 03:24 AM
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94. Especially Christian sermons.
Telling you you are worthless and sinful because you are breathing and alive. It's called original sin -- a made up problem with a made up solution -- substitutionary atonement. A huge scam.
And yet, Christians are not only happier than Perra, but also view helping others as normal and desirable. I think I'm seeing a pattern here...
classicfilmfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 07:40 AM
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104. I think about it every *******ed day
After 45 years of life I'm at the point of saying, "Jesus ****, is this all there is?" Nothing to look forward to except working for shitheads, paying bills that just keep going up and my wages don't, dealing with angry people and getting old and sick. About the only reason I'm still here is because I worry about what would happen to my cat if something happened to me.
Well, most of us have something to look forward to. Maybe you should really talk to Jesus, He could help you out.
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I was very depressed when I became a teenager in the 90's and realized that the USA was a dog eat dog **** you I got mine society where helping others is viewed as being weak.
reggie evidently grew up in a liberal family.
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 03:24 AM
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94. Especially Christian sermons.
Telling you you are worthless and sinful because you are breathing and alive. It's called original sin -- a made up problem with a made up solution -- substitutionary atonement. A huge scam.
And yet, Christians are not only happier than Perra, but also view helping others as normal and desirable. I think I'm seeing a pattern here...
classicfilmfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 07:40 AM
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104. I think about it every *******ed day
After 45 years of life I'm at the point of saying, "Jesus ****, is this all there is?" Nothing to look forward to except working for shitheads, paying bills that just keep going up and my wages don't, dealing with angry people and getting old and sick. About the only reason I'm still here is because I worry about what would happen to my cat if something happened to me.
Well, most of us have something to look forward to. Maybe you should really talk to Jesus, He could help you out.
If you were Jesus, would YOU talk to assholes that talk to and about you like this?
Guess it's a good thing I ain't Jesus, 'cause I'd have climbed down off of my cross when it came time for me to attone for the sins of these shitheads. Taken a 5-minute break until the next person came up that wasn't gonna treat me like shit.
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How can ya go to college full time for 12 years?
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I was very depressed when I became a teenager in the 90's and realized that the USA was a dog eat dog **** you I got mine society where helping others is viewed as being weak.
reggie evidently grew up in a liberal family.
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 03:24 AM
Response to Reply #53
94. Especially Christian sermons.
Telling you you are worthless and sinful because you are breathing and alive. It's called original sin -- a made up problem with a made up solution -- substitutionary atonement. A huge scam.
And yet, Christians are not only happier than Perra, but also view helping others as normal and desirable. I think I'm seeing a pattern here...
classicfilmfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-26-08 07:40 AM
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104. I think about it every *******ed day
After 45 years of life I'm at the point of saying, "Jesus ****, is this all there is?" Nothing to look forward to except working for shitheads, paying bills that just keep going up and my wages don't, dealing with angry people and getting old and sick. About the only reason I'm still here is because I worry about what would happen to my cat if something happened to me.
Well, most of us have something to look forward to. Maybe you should really talk to Jesus, He could help you out.
If you were Jesus, would YOU talk to assholes that talk to and about you like this?
Guess it's a good thing I ain't Jesus, 'cause I'd have climbed down off of my cross when it came time for me to attone for the sins of these shitheads. Taken a 5-minute break until the next person came up that wasn't gonna treat me like shit.
Me? Probably not... Him, definitely. He loves even the DUmpMonkeys.
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How can ya go to college full time for 12 years?
My parents paid for that bachelor's and paid for some of the doctorate, because they went to college and believed in education. We got into the middle class because my dad went to law school at night on the G.I. Bill after World War II, and got a 4% VA loan for a house.
By sponging off dad,,,
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My elderly, cranky, grumpy, impossible to deal with and senile parents were telling me what a horrible person I was because I couldn't find a job. This went on for years. They said "Well we paid for that expensive education of yours. We don't know why you can't find a job.". I said "I don't know either after 3 degrees and 12 years of college". The economy was going to hell in the 90s.
I thought St. Clinton was in charge then. Blasphemy! :angryvillagers:
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My elderly, cranky, grumpy, impossible to deal with and senile parents were telling me what a horrible person I was because I couldn't find a job. This went on for years. They said "Well we paid for that expensive education of yours. We don't know why you can't find a job.". I said "I don't know either after 3 degrees and 12 years of college". The economy was going to hell in the 90s.
I thought St. Clinton was in charge then. Blasphemy! :angryvillagers:
I always thought that the name was "St. Willy of the Stained Dress." :tongue: ;)
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Let's see...PerraGrande -female lawyer, name translates into "Big Bitch" in English. Is she from Philadelphia?
:o :o
You are so dead...