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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dandi on December 07, 2013, 04:02:48 AM
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Because nothing says "Gay Rape Crisis Hotline" quite like DU's general discussion forum.
Now they can discuss the general advisability of getting drunk in a leather bar while wearing assless chaps:
Prism (3,733 posts)
I was raped this week, ask me anything
Because DU has lots of stupid ideological discussions about this, and I've spent the week contemplating everything about what happenend, I thought maybe my personal input would be useful, free of agenda.
I'm a gay male, early 30s, pretty aware of things.
I can't promise instant reply, but I will be as honest as I can be. This might be, given the power of it, the last thing I post on DU, but I think it's worthy discussion.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024144944
MADem (94,662 posts)
2. I have no question but one--are you getting the help you need to deal with this trauma? nt
Of course he is. He came straight to that clearinghouse on mental hygiene with it - DU.
Prism (3,733 posts)
6. I'm ok
I'm a stoic sort. I've just been dealing with it in my noggin. Thank you, you and Janey for asking.
mynaturalrights (96 posts)
80. It's going to turn to rage
And every time you see him it will get worse .
You'll see him laughing and joking in a bar or a party
and you'll want to crash his skull in.
Call the police and report it.
Prism (3,733 posts)
114. I will take advantage
Of the resources posted here, for which I'm very grateful to everyone.
I don't want to press charges. Given every thing, it's just not a situation I personally want to land someone over prison about. But I am mustering my mental reserves to have it out with him personally at least.
The funny thing is, knowing him, when I confront him, I think he'd be mortified. Odd as that sounds.
A sternly-worded note about not driving on your Hershey Highway without a license?
Prism (3,733 posts)
8. I did not report it
Not will I.
mynaturalrights (96 posts)
7. Did you have him or her arrested?
Prism (3,733 posts)
9. It was an acquaintance
I do not want their life wrecked, so no, I haven't and won't.
Bonobo (22,337 posts)
14. Do you think the rapist became a rapist because of watching rape porn?
Or do you think that maybe they watched (if they did) rape porn because they were already predisposed to rape?
For some reason I don't think Bonobo is taking this too seriously.
Whisp (20,876 posts)
33. unbelieveable...
you would drag that here.
I know what you are doing.
jesus.
Bonobo (22,337 posts)
47. It's a fair question and Prism was kind enough to share his experience.
Sorry the answer does not conform with your expectations.
Prism (3,733 posts)
23. I am conflicted
This was am acquaintance, I was black out drunk, he's generally a nice guy. Do I want to ruin his life and go to the police?
(And that is why I started this thread. These are my actual thoughts)
Prism (3,733 posts)
42. I do feel responsible to that extent
I did get drunk, and I did leave with him (barely with functioning consciousness), so I do feel it was a situation I entered.
BootinUp (26,259 posts)
53. Ok, something has come to my mind
that I want to say. Please understand, I do not often hear or read a report of such a horrible event first hand.
What I noticed, is that you are thinking about DU, instead of yourself. Can you tell us why you would think an issue being discussed on DU is so important when you have been physically attacked?
There is no way that is true.
Prism (3,733 posts)
104. I don't know, and no
He was an acquaintance and I was very drunk. I cannot say if I am the first or last very drink person he's done that to.
It was not drug related, however. Simply a bartender who took a fancy to me and kept pumping me with free drinks all night.
must...resist...urge... :shame:
Behind the Aegis (30,229 posts)
85. As a fellow host, LadyHawkAZ, has said, there is a group here if you need it.
As a member of the family, I offer you support for whenever you decide you need it. The betrayal of the situation simply adds to the already horrible situation. Though it wasn't this week, you may ask me anything about my sexual assault and how I have dealt with, and continue to deal with the event.
Becoming a survivor of sexual assault is never an easy thing, but, with support, it can happen.
Sincerely,
Aegis
"The family"?
catrose (895 posts)
95. blessings to you
or good thoughts, if you prefer.
It happened to me. It happened to my gay son, also one of his friends.
I am so sorry.
Haven't they been telling us all along that gays don't rape?
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Raped? My ass!
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Whoopi: I know it wasn't rape-rape. It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape.
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Whoopi: I know it wasn't rape-rape. It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape.
Of course it was not rape. Rape is a traumatic event for the victim. He/it wouldn't post on a discussion board if he/it was raped.
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I was raped this week, ask me anything....does your sister say "no" as slow as you do?...just asking for a friend.
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Of course it was not rape. Rape is a traumatic event for the victim. He/it wouldn't post on a discussion board if he/it was raped.
Yeah, sorry Prism, I have personal knowledge of a rape event which I wont' detail; the first inclination is not to divulge the event on the internet. There are rape victims who sometimes wait years to even share the traumatic event they have been through because no matter what and how misplaced they feel some sense of shame for what happened. Perhaps I'm missing something in the gay world where I admit shame in general is at a minimum so perhaps natural reactions much like natural sex are at a minimum, but this just seems very weird.
I'm not really sure your intention here; I certainly hope you are not doing this for attention which is the first thing that comes to mind.
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Looking at the OP, This has none of the marks of rape. In fact, this looks like 90% of gay sex.
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Haven't they been telling us all along that gays don't rape?
They not only told us, they assured us that was the case and anyone who didn't agree was a h8er. We were assured that it was nothing but Conservative h8 to think that sexual assaults would skyrocket in the Military, since skyrocketed on the order of 40% or more. We were barraged with countless hate crimes and bullying incidents, since proven to be false or perpetrated by the "victim". Every single one, going back to St. Matthew of the Barbed Wire.
So, butt-hurt butt-pirate gets blasted then, ass-blasted. :sosad:
catrose (895 posts)
95. blessings to you
or good thoughts, if you prefer.
It happened to me. It happened to my gay son, also one of his friends.
I am so sorry.
Hmmmm..... likey rapey? :???: Tempted to throw the :bs:
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I sympathize with the guy if what he said happened occurred.
If he did get black out drunk though the other person may not have known this. Many moons ago I blacked out and my friends had no idea. I was carrying on as normal and talking normal... for a drunk that is. I just don't remember about 3 hours of the night. Hell in a black out state he could have been the one that brought it on. I was tempted to go over with my mole and post something similar, but since I am posting it here I kinda ruined that.
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What is it with people getting wasted and then thinking they were raped? How do they know if they weren't a willing participant?
He's lucky he wasn't in a fatal accident.
Rather than trying to appease his own guilt for putting himself in that situation, as a true blue dummie he blames the other guy.
Lesson dude....grow up, accept responsibility for your own stupidity, get over it, get an AIDs test and QUIT DRINKING.
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What is it with people getting wasted and then thinking they were raped? How do they know if they weren't a willing participant?
He's lucky he wasn't in a fatal accident.
Rather than trying to appease his own guilt for putting himself in that situation, as a true blue dummie he blames the other guy.
Lesson dude....grow up, accept responsibility for your own stupidity, get over it, get an AIDs test and QUIT DRINKING.
boy, you bring up a really interesting perspective. if one were 'black out drunk' and driving a car, they would not be excused of charges because they were 'black out drunk'. How then can anyone claim to excuse their own sexual behavior(which is most likely unknown to them) in a black out drunk stage if something like a DUI would not be excused for the same reason? Obviously the law claims culpability for driving in that condition yet the same court when thinking on past incidents involving females do not find the same culpability for sexual behavior?
I know we have some legal types on here who could help me string together what seems to be a double standard in this regard versus driving behavior vs. sexual behavior. Especially in a situation where both parties don't have the judgement to gauge if one or the other is shit faced, how would one know? Now if his story is true, I think hes giving way too much leniency for his 'friend' given his profession and that he was giving him drinks. His 'friend' would have been well aware that he had a shitload of alcohol and one would think in absence of stupidity and for the sake of his own protection the friend would have nixed any romantic encounters until his buddy was back in his right mind and aware fully of what he was getting himself involved with. Now if he just met some dude at the bar who had no idea how much he had to drink, I would be more inclined to think how he is, but his friend knew how much he was giving him to drink so it paints the picture of hi having more nefarious purposes.
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If he pushes back, it's not rape. So that would settle it then.
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Like Maxiest said, just because he doesn't remember consenting doesn't mean he was unconscious and didn't voluntarily participate. If he was actually passed out, sure, it was a gay ass-rape, but being blacked out drunk is far from the same thing as being passed out cold.
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Raped? My ass!
That's what he said. :rimshot:
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No one knows the devious manipulative machinations of a gay mind.
If hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, just watch what happens if you cross a gay.
There's more to this story than meets the brown eye.
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No one knows the devious manipulative machinations of a gay mind.
If hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, just watch what happens if you cross a gay.
There's more to this story than meets the brown eye.
Yeah, there's definitely that, too.
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Rape? All he had to do was move away from the glory hole.
I hope he's not pregnant. Homo "rape" is where trial lawyers come from.
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Rape? All he had to do was move away from the glory hole.
I hope he's not pregnant. Homo "rape" is where trial lawyers come from.
Only one side of the bar is evil in any given case.
Only in rare cases is it both sides.
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mynaturalrights (96 posts)
80. It's going to turn to rage
And every time you see him it will get worse .
Tickle fight!!!1
:gay:
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So he got rear ended.
Wrecked him, damn near killed him.
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So he got rear ended.
Wrecked him, damn near killed him.
How did the tugboat get AIDS ?
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0iQ8gm_2HP4/TdAb7vVTT1I/AAAAAAAABhU/xC_PLe2R5RM/s640/supertroopers2.jpg)
Smells like sex in here.
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Because nothing says "Gay Rape Crisis Hotline" quite like DU's general discussion forum.
Now they can discuss the general advisability of getting drunk in a leather bar while wearing assless chaps:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024144944
Of course he is. He came straight to that clearinghouse on mental hygiene with it - DU.
A sternly-worded note about not driving on your Hershey Highway without a license?
For some reason I don't think Bonobo is taking this too seriously.
must...resist...urge... :shame:
"The family"?
Haven't they been telling us all along that gays don't rape?
Let's look at the options.
- This didn't happen; it's performance art by a gay DUmmy to obtain clicks. Clicks and replies on DU are more valuable to them than bitcoins are.
- This didn't happen; it's a dual-purpose post to inform like-minded DUmmies that they're (a) gay, and (b) on the easy side.
- This did happen, but it was part of an elaborate "rape" bedroom roleplaying scenario, possibly to help avoid the horrific knowledge that a man was about engage in sexual congress with another man.
- This did happen, except the rapist requires batteries and is sold at adult bookstores, and the victim had just finished watching a Six Feet Under marathon.
- This did happen, except the rapist is a person of color and the butt-hurt victim is too politically correct to put a butt rapist in the Joint.
- This didn't happen, and the DUmmy simply succumbed to the temptation after the 4,345,562th cable TV screening of The Shawshank Redemption.
(http://stonefree2rant.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/sahawhsank.jpg)
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Aren't AMA threads the domain of reddit and 4chan? Geez.
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Prism (3,733 posts)
I was raped this week, ask me anything
Why did you post this on a public message board?
You said to ask you anything.
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You said to ask you anything.
All my anythings would get me banned yet again:
Could you pour wax up your butt and make a mold of the offending penis to give to the cops?
Would you want the wax casting back for your personal use?
Did he at least cuddle you afterward?
Were you wearing tight shorts, or something else to provoke the rape, like undulating on the dance floor of the Boneyard Lounge?
Can you have the amyl nitrate capsules dusted for fingerprints?
Are they YOUR fingerprints?
And so on.
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Why did you post this on a public message board?
You said to ask you anything.
Because peter-puffers are by nature attention whores, and - being on the outs with his bartender butt buddy - he was jonesin' for a fix of rousing choruses of what a special widdle snowlake he is. DUmmies like to think they're deep, sophisticated, complicated things, but when you scrape away the layers of bullshit... :whatever:
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All my anythings would get me banned yet again:
Could you pour wax up your butt and make a mold of the offending penis to give to the cops?
Would you want the wax casting back for your personal use?
Did he at least cuddle you afterward?
Were you wearing tight shorts, or something else to provoke the rape, like undulating on the dance floor of the Boneyard Lounge?
Can you have the amyl nitrate capsules dusted for fingerprints?
Are they YOUR fingerprints?
And so on.
You're gonna have to slow down. I can only give one one H5 an hour. :lmao:
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The DU OP is another gay drama queen..no pun intended..well ok it was intended.
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He's just upset he can't remember.
Look, you can't rape the willing.
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He sounds pretty unconcerned about the whole event. Maybe it wasn't really rape-rape (thanks, Whoopi Goldberg).
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He sounds pretty unconcerned about the whole event. Maybe it wasn't really rape-rape (thanks, Whoopi Goldberg).
I doubt his story.
"I was raped, but I know the guy and I don't want to get him in trouble" rings false.
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All my anythings would get me banned yet again:
Could you pour wax up your butt and make a mold of the offending penis to give to the cops?
Would you want the wax casting back for your personal use?
Did he at least cuddle you afterward?
Were you wearing tight shorts, or something else to provoke the rape, like undulating on the dance floor of the Boneyard Lounge?
Can you have the amyl nitrate capsules dusted for fingerprints?
Are they YOUR fingerprints?
And so on.
Any witnesses? Did anyone watch?
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Any witnesses? Did anyone watch?
Do you have a link to the video for the other DUmpmonkeys?
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Do you have a link to the video for the other DUmpmonkeys?
Someone probably does. Ameture video i would guess.
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Someone probably does. Ameture video i would guess.
Of course it's on video. As I said elsewhere, peter puffers are nothing if they aren't attention whores.
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I hve a question Prism; Did you think it a little strange when your friendly bartender said to you "go, stand by the pool table, I'll come over in a few minutes"?
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I hve a question Prism; Did you think it a little strange when your friendly bartender said to you "go, stand by the pool table, I'll come over in a few minutes"?
What is stranger is he thought the bartender was talking about something else when he asked the DUmmie if he could push his stool in for him.
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"Maybe it wasn't really rape-rape (thanks, Whoopi Goldberg)."
I don't believe his story for a second. So he's drunk..passed out...yet remembers "portions of pain". Other holes and his whole "aw shucks" attitude rings false.
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I don't believe his story for a second. So he's drunk..passed out...yet remembers "portions of pain". Other holes and his whole "aw shucks" attitude rings false.
I wonder if a "portion of pain" is all that one would remember if a portion of someones shawantz found it's way up a portion of anothers rectum? I'm thinking it would be a little more than a "portion", something on the lines of a full-blown SHTF pain!
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Prism was probably really asking for it. Seriously. Getting that stinking drunk is a gay bar is like reaching for the soap in prison.
If you go to a bar, always look for the nearest rape free zone.
Why didn't he blow the rape whistle?
Or at the very least why didn't he yell, "Leave Brittany alone!"
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Just to give everyone prior notice, I'm going to be writing a similar post shortly after April 15th.
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Raped? My ass!
No!
HIS ass! :lmao:
On a side note, to quote the late, great Southern humorist, Lewis Grizzard:
"Damn, brother, I don't believe I'd told that!" :rotf:
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Prism was probably really asking for it. Seriously. Getting that stinking drunk is a gay bar is like reaching for the soap in prison.
If you go to a bar, always look for the nearest rape free zone.
Why didn't he blow the rape whistle?
Or at the very least why didn't he yell, "Leave Brittany alone!"
Why didn't he just vomit on himself?
:jerkit: :jerkit: :jerkit:
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Prism (3,733 posts)
I was raped this week, ask me anything
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What a ******* insult to rape victims.
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I think that "ask me anything" part was just a ploy looking for dates this coming weekend. So far he says he's been raped and promises to not talk about it.... what would a gay rapist think about such a thing...hmm....
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Hope somebody over there advises jism to visit it's doctor (assuming it can find one). Although, I expect the rapist probably used a condom since gay people are like super responsible and caring and such.
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Hope somebody over there advises jism to visit it's doctor (assuming it can find one). Although, I expect the rapist probably used a condom since gay people are like super responsible and caring and such.
Good point.
Those new lesions ain't speed bumps on the Hershey Highway, DUmmy.
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Did ya back up?
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Did ya back up?
Other dude said, "I gotcha back, Jack".
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OH for the love of Peat Delmar, can you tell me why I keep getting flashbacks to Sara Palin's daughter who became pregnant on a camping trip ???
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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OH for the love of Peat Delmar, can you tell me why I keep getting flashbacks to Sara Palin's daughter who became pregnant on a camping trip ???
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
You were there?
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OH for the love of Peat Delmar, can you tell me why I keep getting flashbacks to Sara Palin's daughter who became pregnant on a camping trip ???
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Oh for the love of pewter, Vesta you are insane.
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OH for the love of Peat Delmar, can you tell me why I keep getting flashbacks to Sara Palin's daughter who became pregnant on a camping trip ???
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Too much brown acid?
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"I will not report it, except here on DU, for my daily Stalinist Confession of impure thoughts about the State."
OMG! You are the worst people in the world, DU!
Okay, to be fair, I stopped reading there. Maybe DU is better than I think. I will try and read the rest of the post now.
On edit: there is nothing to change my original assessment.
I do not feel sorry for this guy, he lets a known victimizer continue to be able to victimize others. And he brags about it on DU.
Nice guys don't rape, so when prism says this was a nice guy he is delusional because he knows it is not true.
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The gay DUmmie found "THE BIG ONE" and couldn't handle it....so he tells boyfriend, "I was raped".
Hey, women have done that and gotten away with it.
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How messed up do you have to be to go on a website claiming to have been raped and act like it was no big deal, such a small deal in fact that you are more worried about the rapist getting in trouble?
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How messed up do you have to be to go on a website claiming to have been raped and act like it was no big deal, such a small deal in fact that you are more worried about the rapist getting in trouble?
He/it is part of the whole "sensitive" class so it's different, you need to think about the feelings of the rapist. The Shawshank redemption would've been a much happier tale if Andy dufrane took the emotions of his attackers into account. What a jerk.
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How messed up do you have to be to go on a website claiming to have been raped and act like it was no big deal, such a small deal in fact that you are more worried about the rapist getting in trouble?
If that guy wasn't a queer, he'd have been kicked so far off Skimmer's DUmp he'd already be forgotten.
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Prism (3,733 posts)
I was raped this week, ask me anything...
Will you go away, and stay away?
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Ugh...what a tacky thread. If it really did happen, why post this on an Internet message board, other than for attention?
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Ugh...what a tacky thread. If it really did happen, why post this on an Internet message board, other than for attention?
You're mostly right but also...
Many of the rape thread at DU involve discussions (as close as those pant-hooting idiots can come to actual discussion) about victim-blaming, I.e. is it a girl's fault for getting blackout drunk and waking up naked in the frat house?
It wants to prove gays are just like poor, oppressed women because... oppression!