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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on September 10, 2013, 05:13:19 AM
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Star Member Flying Squirrel (966 posts)
Wanna hear something crazy? My daughter loses her food stamps if she takes more than 5 credits
at the community college (she's a freshman). Unless she's working at least 20 hours per week as well.
She lives at home with me, and we both currently qualify for food stamps.
So let me get this straight. She's expected to work MORE at the same time that she is taking more credits.
Guess that's why they call 'em starving students, huh?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023627603
Once again we have 2 generations of people on food stamps. They sure teach their children well at DU. :whatever:
TalkingDog (8,057 posts)
25. People should call it what it is: State Sponsored Slavery
If they are working for anybody Corporation or small business where profit is an outcome, it's slavery.
So now if your employer makes profits you are a slave. :mental:
Star Member LuvNewcastle (4,264 posts)
4. I've got another one.
I live in public housing. If I take more than 9 hours, I'll lose my housing. I understand why they have it set up that way; they don't have enough public housing to put up all the struggling students as well as the people on public assistance. But these regulations also hurt people who are working to make their financial situation better so they can move out of these places. There's all sorts of little caveats like that in federal regulations that deal with getting help. It would be socialistic to help out people who aren't totally indigent, you know.
Another winner.
Once again the smartest people ever need the government to supply their every need.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023627603
Once again we have 2 generations of people on food stamps. They sure teach their children well at DU. :whatever:
So now if your employer makes profits you are a slave. :mental:
Another winner.
Once again the smartest people ever need the government to supply their every need.
Just waiting to hear the howls of outrage when the state starts demanding piss tests on those on local or government assistance. How about the old bugaboo tobacco, or booze.
Assistance means food, clothing and shelter, if one can afford a pack of cigarettes a day, over a year they have spent almost $2,000 on just that, that we pay for. Add in the booze and drugs, no wonder people are going hungry as we finance their addiction's.
Check out the inner city's schools and keep note of the brand new $200. sneakers the kids are wearing. Darn my kids grew up wearing BOBOs, kids feet grow so fast in the summer I was buying them sneakers every 2 months.
I could not raise 4 kids in to days world, just barely made it in their youth. We did it somehow back then, most likely because we did not smoke, drink or do drugs.
It can be done to day, if stronger guidelines were placed on assistance. Screw this " It's for the children Shit, these kids are the responsibility of the parents and if the parents think more of themselves, Don't come bitching at me that I should care more for their kids then I do myself and my family.
Charity begins at home, Why should people in their 80's go without life saving medicine so the neighbor can sit on their porch drink a cold one, smoke a joint and complain the kids have nothing to eat but corn flakes with water.
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Star Member LuvNewcastle (4,264 posts)
4. I've got another one.
I live in public housing. If I take more than 9 hours, I'll lose my housing. I understand why they have it set up that way; they don't have enough public housing to put up all the struggling students as well as the people on public assistance. But these regulations also hurt people who are working to make their financial situation better so they can move out of these places. There's all sorts of little caveats like that in federal regulations that deal with getting help. It would be socialistic to help out people who aren't totally indigent, you know.
Why don't you work hard in high school and get a scholarship?
Why don't you join the military/reserve and earn to go to school?
Why must the gov't hold your dick your whole life?
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TalkingDog (8,057 posts)
25. People should call it what it is: State Sponsored Slavery
If they are working for anybody Corporation or small business where profit is an outcome, it's slavery.
It's people like this that make my shot groups much tighter at the range.
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What a load of horseshit Talking Dog is.
Response to LuvNewcastle (Reply #8)
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:53 AM
Chan790 (14,829 posts)
26. We need more public housing.
We also need to remove the stigma of living in public housing...everybody up to the poverty line should be entitled to a free government domicile if they want one and people up throughout the middle-class should be able to get subsidized housing on a sliding-contribution scale.
Well, the stigma comes from the residents of the public housing turning it into an absolute shithole within minutes. Naturally, people are going to regard those who live in trash, to be trash.
Anyway, the DUmp goes on to discuss a bunch of details in the rules and regs, I skimmed over it, there were large paragraphs with runon sentences....some rule about "fixing meals together" being some important aspect. It made my head explode. Who would even want to get involved in any of this shit? If you make some mistake, they'll come after you, too.
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Star Member LuvNewcastle (4,264 posts)
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It would be socialistic to help out people who aren't totally indigent, you know.
Of which you obviously are not.
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TalkingDog
People should call it what it is: State Sponsored Slavery
If they are working for anybody Corporation or small business where profit is an outcome, it's slavery.
If you want to use that "logic," then working itself is slavery. Because what is working if it's not using your personal resources (whether your mind, or body, or both) in a way in which you gain some reward (profit) from it?
You just cornered yourself, dimwit, and you're not smart enough to even realize it.
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Lord, the whole bunch of them are nothing but cockroaches.
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TalkingDog (8,057 posts)
25. People should call it what it is: State Sponsored Slavery
If they are working for anybody Corporation or small business where profit is an outcome, it's slavery.
Obvious Occutard is obvious.
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TalkingDog (8,057 posts)
25. People should call it what it is: State Sponsored Slavery
If they are working for anybody Corporation or small business where profit is an outcome, it's slavery.
FOOD STAMPS are state-sponsored slavery, you stupid useless tool.
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Star Member Flying Squirrel (966 posts)
Wanna hear something crazy? My daughter loses her food stamps if she takes more than 5 credits at the community college (she's a freshman). Unless she's working at least 20 hours per week as well.
So what does a college credit = in class time hours?
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So what does a college credit = in class time hours?
When I was in school, for the most part 1 credt per 1 hour of class time, except for required PE classes which were 3 hours class time = 1 hour credit. That was a long time ago.
My son's in school and most of his are 1 credit = 1 hour class time.
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When I was in school, for the most part 1 credt per 1 hour of class time, except for required PE classes which were 3 hours class time = 1 hour credit. That was a long time ago.
My son's in school and most of his are 1 credit = 1 hour class time.
Would that be one hour every day, or just a couple days a week?
I had a 4 credit night class. I went two nights a week for 4 hrs. ea. I was also working full time then too.
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Just waiting to hear the howls of outrage when the state starts demanding piss tests on those on local or government assistance. How about the old bugaboo tobacco, or booze.
Assistance means food, clothing and shelter, if one can afford a pack of cigarettes a day, over a year they have spent almost $2,000 on just that, that we pay for. Add in the booze and drugs, no wonder people are going hungry as we finance their addiction's.
Check out the inner city's schools and keep note of the brand new $200. sneakers the kids are wearing. Darn my kids grew up wearing BOBOs, kids feet grow so fast in the summer I was buying them sneakers every 2 months.
I could not raise 4 kids in to days world, just barely made it in their youth. We did it somehow back then, most likely because we did not smoke, drink or do drugs.
It can be done to day, if stronger guidelines were placed on assistance. Screw this " It's for the children Shit, these kids are the responsibility of the parents and if the parents think more of themselves, Don't come bitching at me that I should care more for their kids then I do myself and my family.
Charity begins at home, Why should people in their 80's go without life saving medicine so the neighbor can sit on their porch drink a cold one, smoke a joint and complain the kids have nothing to eat but corn flakes with water.
All of this and a bag of chips. Which I will gladly pay for. :cheersmate:
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Would that be one hour every day, or just a couple days a week?
I had a 4 credit night class. I went two nights a week for 4 hrs. ea. I was also working full time then too.
If you're taking 18 hours a semester, that means you attend class for 18 hours a week every week of the semester.
Sounds like you took a condensed course. I had several of those during summer school. With me, it was usually a 3 hour course, but you met 3 days a week for 3 hours at a time.
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18 hours is full-time (six three-hour classes).
That's a lot of classes.
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Response to LuvNewcastle (Reply #8)
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:53 AM
Chan790 (14,829 posts)
26. We need more public housing.
We also need to remove the stigma of living in public housing...everybody up to the poverty line should be entitled to a free government domicile if they want one and people up throughout the middle-class should be able to get subsidized housing on a sliding-contribution scale.
Free food and housing,what would define poverty at that point?
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Free food, free housing, free healthcare.....hell, why not just retire right out of high school.
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Free food, free housing, free healthcare.....hell, why not just retire right out of high school.
You forgot about free Obamaphones, free internet and free cable.
But then they would bitch about not getting a free car.
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Free food, free housing, free healthcare.....hell, why not just retire right out of high school.
A quick look back in history would show that they probably would not like what would be provided if the government they yearn for actually existed.
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I think the leeching DUchebag is lying.
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....Why must the gov't hold your dick your whole life?
Nothing much to hold, apparently.
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A quick look back in history would show that they probably would not like what would be provided if the government they yearn for actually existed.
What, you don't think they'd like forced labor camps with 'Voluntary' extra shifts you have to pull if you want to earn enough extra rations to actually survive for more than a year...?
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Would that be one hour every day, or just a couple days a week?
I had a 4 credit night class. I went two nights a week for 4 hrs. ea. I was also working full time then too.
If I had a 3 credit class, during the day, I went 3 days a week for 50 minutes each time or 2 days a week for 1 hour, 20 minute each class.
If I had a 3 credit night class, I went 2.5 hours one night a week.
Except for PE (gym classes) which were only 1 credit - no matter what - and were anywhere from 50 minutes each to 2.5 hours, depending on the class, time of day and day of week, or if it was a 9 week class or 18 week class.
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Star Member Flying Squirrel (966 posts)
Wanna hear something crazy? My daughter loses her food stamps if she takes more than 5 credits
at the community college (she's a freshman). Unless she's working at least 20 hours per week as well.
She lives at home with me, and we both currently qualify for food stamps.
So let me get this straight. She's expected to work MORE at the same time that she is taking more credits.
Guess that's why they call 'em starving students, huh?
The bigger complaint is why is there two people collecting food stamps at the same address?
Star Member LuvNewcastle (4,264 posts)
4. I've got another one.
I live in public housing. If I take more than 9 hours, I'll lose my housing. I understand why they have it set up that way; they don't have enough public housing to put up all the struggling students as well as the people on public assistance. But these regulations also hurt people who are working to make their financial situation better so they can move out of these places. There's all sorts of little caveats like that in federal regulations that deal with getting help. It would be socialistic to help out people who aren't totally indigent, you know.
lady femdom would do well to read above. She's under the delusion that she's just going to move to Tucson and strut into a section 8 abode until she can weasel back into her ex's life. Parasites wait years to get into those roach infested housing.
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If you're taking 18 hours a semester, that means you attend class for 18 hours a week every week of the semester.
Sounds like you took a condensed course. I had several of those during summer school. With me, it was usually a 3 hour course, but you met 3 days a week for 3 hours at a time.
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This.
16 credit hours were equal to 16 class time per week unless I took an accelerated course in the summer. Twice the class time in half the weeks
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Well my guess on why that restriction is in place is because pell grant requires you take AT LEAST 6 credits to get any assistance, but full grants are usually given for a full courseload ie 12 credits. If food stamps say you can't take more then 5 then I would guess that the state they live in seeks to limit how much assistance is coming in from all sources. Perhaps too it has something to do with living in the same household with someone else receiving assistance? Here is an idea, if the mooch mom got off the assistance perhaps the daughter can use the help to do better for herself, although I'd like to know why a college student living at home and going to school full time should be seeking food stamps anyway? Part of mom taking the tax credit is that she is supporting the grown child while they are a full time student. I wonder if mom had her go for assistance as her form of 'rent' supplied by the state. :banghead:
I don't begrudge anyone looking for a little help to get on with their lives, but some circumstances I just don't understand it. Lifelong too I don't understand that unless one has a grave injury, sickness(dialysis, cancer, heart failure), or is permanently disabled as in Down's/Autism(the severe type, not asperger's)/mental retardation.
Also what is with having one's own dwelling? When i was in my 20's I could not afford my own place. I always looked for roommate situations which let me live in my means AND have some flexibility as a young professional. Why do they need their own damn apartment when you can room in a perfectly nice home in a solid suburb for 400 a month plus some utilities--probably less for the type of shitholes they are used to living in? Most of these people don't have kids either and won't do this. I just don't get it.
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Food stamps for college students? seriously? what happened to college students living on ramen noodles? This is really getting outrageous the number of people dependant on Government.
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Food stamps for college students? seriously? what happened to college students living on ramen noodles? This is really getting outrageous the number of people dependant on Government.
And it's really scary to see how they go into hysterics the minute any talk is spoken about reducing benefits. Man! They are sucking this country into a black hole.
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Food stamps for college students? seriously? what happened to college students living on ramen noodles? This is really getting outrageous the number of people dependant on Government.
I put myself through college and never even thought about getting on food stamps. Although my part time drafting job probably put me above the limit. I didn't know any student that had food stamps. Different times in just 30 years. I guess this is the fundamentally changed America that Obama promised he would deliver. Just goes to show you that anybody can radically destroy something in short order.
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Even if she carried 12 credits, wouldn't she still have plenty of time to work 20 hours and get off the food stamps?
Guess I'm not understanding this whole thing.
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Even if she carried 12 credits, wouldn't she still have plenty of time to work 20 hours and get off the food stamps?
Guess I'm not understanding this whole thing.
You're trying to make sense out of DUmmie logic. It will drive a sane person crazy.
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Even if she carried 12 credits, wouldn't she still have plenty of time to work 20 hours and get off the food stamps?
Guess I'm not understanding this whole thing.
I went to college from 9/70 to 5/74, when I got my BA.
Trashed my first semester, had to make up for it by taking 18hrs per semester for 6 semesters. No summer school, had to work, and my dad said if I was so stupid to screw up a college education, I could either figure out a way to finish without summer school or not finish...and I only had 4 years to get it done. ( I think my little brother spent about 7 yrs going through to get his engineering degree ::) )
Worked all but 3 semesters (freshman yr and 2nd semester of jr yr because of an overwhelming class schedule - but helped a friend clean houses to make spending money), a minimum of 20 hours per week. I, who detest mornings with a passion, was in the dorm cafeteria at 5am on Saturday mornings, because that was when I was scheduled to work. I worked more when I went to work at the campus bookstore.
Paid every dime of it myself, from a small life insurance trust fund I had because my mother was killed in a car accident. No scholarship because my dad & stepmother wouldn't fill out the forms. I got SS and VA money, but checks were made out to step momma and she kept all of it until my Sr year, when the VA made the check out to me.(she was really pissed)....it was $43 per month.
It never would have occured to me to try to get Food Stamps, or any other type of assistance.
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Like everyone else, we were poor as churchmice during the college years. Of course we worked throughout them. Now, foodstamps were not an option anyway, because my husband was an immigrant, and you had to sign shit saying you would never apply for public assistance. With a co-signer guaranteeing that (my mom).
You make do.
Times have changed.
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When I was in school, for the most part 1 credt per 1 hour of class time, except for required PE classes which were 3 hours class time = 1 hour credit. That was a long time ago.
My son's in school and most of his are 1 credit = 1 hour class time.
That's true for the most part: while it's 3 hours lab for 1 credit hour or 1 class hour per credit hour PER WEEK, when I was going to college it was pretty much expected that you were doing 2-3 hours work OUTSIDE of class for every hour in class. Meaning guys like me who were taking 18-20 hours a semester (and that was most of us) had no friggin lives.
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SNAP qualifications for college students:
If you are in college more than half-time, you may qualify for SNAP if you meet any one of the conditions below:
You receive (any amount of )federal or state work-study monies,
You work for pay for 20 hours or more per week,
You care for a child under the age of 12 (further rules apply) or you get TAFDC,
You participate in a SNAP or other ‘employment and training program’,
You attend a community college and are enrolled in a credit degree or certificate program that the college determines will increase your employability,
You are age 50 or older, or you are under age 18, OR
You have a temporary or permanent physical and/or mental impairment.
Though, according to federal law, if the daughter is still living at home, they cannot both college food stamps. They have to apply together as a family unit.
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That's true for the most part: while it's 3 hours lab for 1 credit hour or 1 class hour per credit hour PER WEEK, when I was going to college it was pretty much expected that you were doing 2-3 hours work OUTSIDE of class for every hour in class. Meaning guys like me who were taking 18-20 hours a semester (and that was most of us) had no friggin lives.
I remember those days. Back when I was getting my degree on the night school plan.
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Even if she carried 12 credits, wouldn't she still have plenty of time to work 20 hours and get off the food stamps?
Guess I'm not understanding this whole thing.
I'm doing 12 this semester(and likely the next 3) and I work fulltime and have 3 kids. It can be done. It's not fun, but it can be done. I just don't get how anyone without children, college age, living with their parent needs foodstamps. :???:
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SNAP qualifications for college students:
If you are in college more than half-time, you may qualify for SNAP if you meet any one of the conditions below:
You receive (any amount of )federal or state work-study monies,
You work for pay for 20 hours or more per week,
You care for a child under the age of 12 (further rules apply) or you get TAFDC,
You participate in a SNAP or other ‘employment and training program’,
You attend a community college and are enrolled in a credit degree or certificate program that the college determines will increase your employability,
You are age 50 or older, or you are under age 18, OR
You have a temporary or permanent physical and/or mental impairment.
Though, according to federal law, if the daughter is still living at home, they cannot both college food stamps. They have to apply together as a family unit.
Ahh, so it's as I thought: the lifetime moocher mom is really the issue but she won't point that out. Not that a college student who lives with their parents should have any need for assistance to begin with. Friends of mine who lived at home usually helped pay some expenses at the house. Usually it was rent and parents would continue including them in meals or with groceries within reason for room and board while going to school. There was no need for food stamps. something tells me mooching mom thought this would be a great way for her to contribute. In the same vein she lived her life, the daughter could avoid actually paying for anything out of pocket to mom and could just provide SNAP provided by the government. Absolutely pathetic.
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SNAP qualifications for college students:
If you are in college more than half-time, you may qualify for SNAP if you meet any one of the conditions below:
You receive (any amount of )federal or state work-study monies, no
You work for pay for 20 hours or more per week,I work 36 plus ot
You care for a child under the age of 12 (further rules apply) or you get TAFDC,Does my dog count?
You participate in a SNAP or other ‘employment and training program’,No
You attend a community college and are enrolled in a credit degree or certificate program that the college determines will increase your employability,I could swing that
You are age 50 or older, or you are under age 18, OR I'm 52
You have a temporary or permanent physical and/or mental impairment. Depends on who you ask.
Though, according to federal law, if the daughter is still living at home, they cannot both college food stamps. They have to apply together as a family unit.
So, if I decide to take enough classes at the local community college, I can get SNAP?
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So, if I decide to take enough classes at the local community college, I can get SNAP?
Of course.
President Food Stamp has your back. Maybe not those guys backs in Benghazi, but yours definitely.
You are a registered Democrat, right?
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Of course.
President Food Stamp has your back. Maybe not those guys backs in Benghazi, but yours definitely.
You are a registered Democrat, right?
If that's also a requirement, then I'm out of luck.