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Current Events => Terrorism In the US and Around the World => Topic started by: georgephillip on July 10, 2013, 06:35:22 PM
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What percentage of the world's 1.6 billion Muslim population "is bound by the entire Islamic doctrine?"
About the same ratio as radical Zionists who follow Abraham Kook?
"The earlier influence of fundamentalist Rabbi Abraham Kook (1865-1935), or Kuk, was significant. He preached Jewish supremacy and said: 'The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews -- all of them in all different levels -- is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle.'
"His teachings helped create the settler movement, and his son, Rabbi Tzvi Yehuda Kook, founded the extremist Gush Emunim (GE) under the slogan: 'The Land of Israel, for the people of Israel, according to the Torah of Israel.'"
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/961/focus.htm (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/961/focus.htm)
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What percentage of the world's 1.6 billion Muslim population "is bound by the entire Islamic doctrine?"
According to the Koran....all of them.
About the same ratio as radical Zionists who follow Abraham Kook?
"The earlier influence of fundamentalist Rabbi Abraham Kook (1865-1935), or Kuk, was significant. He preached Jewish supremacy and said: 'The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews -- all of them in all different levels -- is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle.'
"His teachings helped create the settler movement, and his son, Rabbi Tzvi Yehuda Kook, founded the extremist Gush Emunim (GE) under the slogan: 'The Land of Israel, for the people of Israel, according to the Torah of Israel.'"
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/961/focus.htm (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/961/focus.htm)
Equating Judaism to radical Islam?
Oh you're gonna be fun.
Welcome to CC n00b.
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What percentage of the world's 1.6 billion Muslim population "is bound by the entire Islamic doctrine?"
About the same ratio as radical Zionists who follow Abraham Kook?
"The earlier influence of fundamentalist Rabbi Abraham Kook (1865-1935), or Kuk, was significant. He preached Jewish supremacy and said: 'The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews -- all of them in all different levels -- is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle.'
"His teachings helped create the settler movement, and his son, Rabbi Tzvi Yehuda Kook, founded the extremist Gush Emunim (GE) under the slogan: 'The Land of Israel, for the people of Israel, according to the Torah of Israel.'"
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/961/focus.htm (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/961/focus.htm)
What you're attempting to do here...is downplay the radicalism in Islam. And, you're citing the state-run Egyptian media as an authoritative source on Zionism and Judaism, which is like asking a rabbi his opinion of pork recipes.
The other falsehood that you're is peddling is equating Islamic doctrine with the doctrine of a single Jewish intellectual. Islamic doctrine comes from Mohammed, the Sunna and the Hadiths, and is not subject to choice. Rabbi Kuk was an obscure rabbi, whose influence was highly limited. A Jew who doesn't follow Kuk's ideology isn't an apostate. A Muslim who denies any of Mohammed's (and therefore Allah's) commands is guilty of apostasy, which is a death sentence. The 1.6 billion Muslims may not all believe as rabidly as the Iranian mullahs, but enough of them do to ensure that the rest fall into line, which is why there has been almost no attempt to reform Islam in the face of modernity. All Muslims are expected to believe that the Qur'an is the word of Allah and has existed eternally, and any deviation from it is apostasy. The schisms in Islam are not doctrinal, but are based on succession and power distribution (Sunni/Shia, Ismaili, etc.), and only occur when someone gets enough power to challenge the status quo. The schisms in Judaism are doctrinal (Orthodox, Conservative and Reform), just as they are in Christianity.
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What you're attempting to do here...is downplay the radicalism in Islam. And, you're citing the state-run Egyptian media as an authoritative source on Zionism and Judaism, which is like asking a rabbi his opinion of pork recipes.
The other falsehood that you're is peddling is equating Islamic doctrine with the doctrine of a single Jewish intellectual. Islamic doctrine comes from Mohammed, the Sunna and the Hadiths, and is not subject to choice. Rabbi Kuk was an obscure rabbi, whose influence was highly limited. A Jew who doesn't follow Kuk's ideology isn't an apostate. A Muslim who denies any of Mohammed's (and therefore Allah's) commands is guilty of apostasy, which is a death sentence. The 1.6 billion Muslims may not all believe as rabidly as the Iranian mullahs, but enough of them do to ensure that the rest fall into line, which is why there has been almost no attempt to reform Islam in the face of modernity. All Muslims are expected to believe that the Qur'an is the word of Allah and has existed eternally, and any deviation from it is apostasy. The schisms in Islam are not doctrinal, but are based on succession and power distribution (Sunni/Shia, Ismaili, etc.), and only occur when someone gets enough power to challenge the status quo. The schisms in Judaism are doctrinal (Orthodox, Conservative and Reform), just as they are in Christianity.
I'm not downplaying the influence of radical Islam as much as you're ignoring the influence that racist rabbis exert over elements of the IDF.
Kook's legacy exists today in the settler movement which sees state power as a legitimate tool to create a new messianic era based on the belief God created the world for Jews; Greater Israel belongs to Jews alone, and holy wars are acceptable to attain it. Given the overwhelming monopoly of violence that Jews exert in Palestine today, Kook's influence extends far beyond that of a single Jewish intellectual.
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I'm not downplaying the influence of radical Islam as much as you're ignoring the influence that racist rabbis exert over elements of the IDF.
Do you have proof of this? From something other than an Egyptican publicaion that is.
Kook's legacy exists today in the settler movement which sees state power as a legitimate tool to create a new messianic era based on the belief God created the world for Jews; Greater Israel belongs to Jews alone, and holy wars are acceptable to attain it
He was one person. Trying to equate one man and his weird belief to ALL of Islam is just plain silly on your part and you should be ashamed of yourself fro trying to pull such a dishonest stunt like this.
Given the overwhelming monopoly of violence that Jews exert in Palestine today,
You're kidding right? Israel has shown far more restraint than anyone should expect them to when they are constantly attacked by Hezbollah and Hamas who are funded by radical Islamists in Iran and Syria who want nothing more than to wipe Israel from the face of the earth, and say so publicly on a regular basis.
Yet somehow Israel is the bad guy here?
And while we're on this subject, you do realize that none of this would really be a topic of debate today if the Palestinians had simply acceted U.N. Resolution 181 in 1948? But that wasn't good enough. So strong was their hatred for Israel and the Jews they rejected it. So whatever problems and crisis they find themselves in today because they have no "homeland" (which is a joke in itself) is of their own doing.
Kook's influence extends far beyond that of a single Jewish intellectual.
No it doesn't. And just because you claim it does because some Egyptian publication said so isn't "proof". It's biased kookery (no pun intended)
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What percentage of the world's 1.6 billion Muslim population "is bound by the entire Islamic doctrine?"
About the same ratio as radical Zionists who follow Abraham Kook?
"The earlier influence of fundamentalist Rabbi Abraham Kook (1865-1935), or Kuk, was significant. He preached Jewish supremacy and said: 'The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews -- all of them in all different levels -- is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle.'
"His teachings helped create the settler movement, and his son, Rabbi Tzvi Yehuda Kook, founded the extremist Gush Emunim (GE) under the slogan: 'The Land of Israel, for the people of Israel, according to the Torah of Israel.'"
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/961/focus.htm (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/961/focus.htm)
Bitch slapped for being a little bitch.
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Sounds like the newbie hates Jews.
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Sounds like the newbie hates Jews.
Most Moose-Limb apologists do.
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The Land of Israel, for the people of Israel, according to the Torah of Israel.'"
I fail to see the problem with this.
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I fail to see the problem with this.
Agreed. Especially considering that the Bible/Torah contains a copy of the bill of sale for the land right there in the beginning.
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After our aspiring anti semite noob's attempt to derail the thread, try Walid Shoebat.
He was the first to open my eyes to the true threat of islam.
Until my brother turned me on to him, I thought christians and muslims prayed to the same God by different means.
How wrong I was about that.
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Hey, georgephillip. Knock off the anti-Semite crap; go start your own thread and quit trying to hijack mine.
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Hey, georgephillip. Knock off the anti-Semite crap; go start your own thread and quit trying to hijack mine.
Here here ! (interjection of enthusiastic agreement).
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After our aspiring anti semite noob's attempt to derail the thread, try Walid Shoebat.
He was the first to open my eyes to the true threat of islam.
Until my brother turned me on to him, I thought christians and muslims prayed to the same God by different means.
How wrong I was about that.
I was DUmb too until 9/11. After that I started doing research on the web and reading more Islamic history.....boy was I DUmb to the truth about Islam.
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I fail to see the problem with this.
Get your eyes checked.
"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Section_III._Occupied_territories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Section_III._Occupied_territories)
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Get your eyes checked.
"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Section_III._Occupied_territories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Section_III._Occupied_territories)
You anti semites refuse to acknowledge that Israel is inhabiting their own sovereign lands, not occupying some mythical Palestinian land.
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Get your eyes checked.
"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Section_III._Occupied_territories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Section_III._Occupied_territories)
Shut the **** up and get off of my thread. Go somewhere else for your mental masturbation.
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Get your eyes checked.
"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Section_III._Occupied_territories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Section_III._Occupied_territories)
Get your head checked. That's soverign Israeli soil.
You uses the term "settler" as if it were a crime to live on land that you have legitimate claims to. All claims to the West Bank by Jordan were dropped decades ago, which leaves Israel the sole legal authority, both by UN Resolution and the laws of land warfare. If settling on such land is a crime, then Mohammed's taking of Medina and Mecca, and the Islamic colonization of the formerly Christian kingdoms of North Africa and the Levant must be far greater crimes, as was the Jordanian, Egyptian and Syrian invasions of Israel in 1948, 1967 and 1973. However, these arguments are based on facts and history, not narrow minded factually inaccurate bigotry like you're putting forth.
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Shut the **** up and get off of my thread. Go somewhere else for your mental masturbation.
I agree. Mods can we break this up and give this little anti-Semite that's messing up CG's thread his own so I can continue educating that fool.
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I reported him to the mod.
Please stop responding to him; it only encourages more tripe from the Jew hater.
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I reported him to the mod.
Please stop responding to him; it only encourages more tripe from the Jew hater.
He has managed to derail the thread quite effectively. Timing might be perfect for the guise of Roper to appear. (My radical islam alter ego Religion of peacer).
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He has managed to derail the thread quite effectively. Timing might be perfect for the guise of Roper to appear. (My radical islam alter ego Religion of peacer).
It appears that my complaint had an effect. He's gone from this thread and started another Jew hating thread.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
A hearty "Thank you" to the mod who helped out!
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It looks like our anti semite noob has posted his driveby rant and moved on.
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I was DUmb too until 9/11. After that I started doing research on the web and reading more Islamic history.....boy was I DUmb to the truth about Islam.
You and me both. I was also angry that we were not more informed. Our media and schools have done a good job of hiding the truth about that religion.
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It looks like our anti semite noob has posted his driveby rant and moved on.
He'll be back. He's been averaging a meme a day.
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Get your head checked. That's soverign Israeli soil.
You uses the term "settler" as if it were a crime to live on land that you have legitimate claims to. All claims to the West Bank by Jordan were dropped decades ago, which leaves Israel the sole legal authority, both by UN Resolution and the laws of land warfare. If settling on such land is a crime, then Mohammed's taking of Medina and Mecca, and the Islamic colonization of the formerly Christian kingdoms of North Africa and the Levant must be far greater crimes, as was the Jordanian, Egyptian and Syrian invasions of Israel in 1948, 1967 and 1973. However, these arguments are based on facts and history, not narrow minded factually inaccurate bigotry like you're putting forth.
In fact, the hundreds of thousands Jewish settler inhabiting the Occupied Territory of the West Bank are there in violation of established international law:
"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
The key word is "territory".
It doesn't matter what the Jordanian claims were decades ago.
All of the Jewish settler-colonialists who have moved into the West Bank since 1967 are there illegally.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Section_III._Occupied_territories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Section_III._Occupied_territories)
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In fact, the hundreds of thousands Jewish settler inhabiting the Occupied Territory of the West Bank are there in violation of established international law:
"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
The key word is "territory".
It doesn't matter what the Jordanian claims were decades ago.
All of the Jewish settler-colonialists who have moved into the West Bank since 1967 are there illegally.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Section_III._Occupied_territories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Section_III._Occupied_territories)
No they are there legally. As was shown to you previously by Odysseus. Jordan gave up their claims.
But then you already knew that.
And you've still not addressed that pesky issue about U.N. Resolution 181 from back in 1948.
Why is that?
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No they are there legally. As was shown to you previously by Odysseus. Jordan gave up their claims.
But then you already knew that.
And you've still not addressed that pesky issue about U.N. Resolution 181 from back in 1948.
Why is that?
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No they are there legally. As was shown to you previously by Odysseus. Jordan gave up their claims.
But then you already knew that.
And you've still not addressed that pesky issue about U.N. Resolution 181 from back in 1948.
Why is that?
Because USGR 181 was a purely advisory resolution which required both Jew and Arab acceptance in order to take effect.
Arabs didn't understand why one-third of the population of Mandate Palestine was "given" 55% of the land.
In retrospect, the Arabs should have chosen earlier western inflicted partition plans:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#Earlier_proposals_for_partition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#Earlier_proposals_for_partition)
"The League of Nations granted Britain a mandate over Palestine as part of the Partitioning of the Ottoman Empire following World War I. A British census of 1918 estimated 700,000 Arabs and 56,000 Jews.[6]
"In the 1917 Balfour Declaration, the British foreign secretary stated that the British government viewed “with favour the establishment in Palestine of a National Home for the Jewish people [with the understanding that] nothing should be done to prejudice the civil and religious rights of the existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine . . . .†.[6]
"Neither partition nor statehood was mentioned as the means of accomplishing the National Home. Lord Curzon, who later succeeded Balfour as foreign secretary, wrote a memorandum expressing concern about what would become of the Arab inhabitants of Palestine who had 'occupied the country for the best part of 1,500 years' and would 'not be content either to be expropriated for Jewish immigrants, or to act merely as hewers of wood and drawers of water to the latter.' [6]
In 1937, the Peel Commission proposed a Palestine divided into an Arab state, a much smaller Jewish state (about 15%), and an international zone. The Arab leadership rejected the plan.
"The two main Jewish leaders, Chaim Weizmann and Ben Gurion had convinced the Zionist Congress to approve equivocally the Peel recommendations as a basis for more negotiation.[7][8][quotations 1][9]
"These proposals contained provisions for the relocation of Arab population to areas outside the borders of the new Jewish state, modelled on the population exchange between Greece and Turkey; they were also rejected by the Arab side."
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Again with the mythical Palestine. Again with the wikipedia references. The least credible, the least accurate, the most biased source.
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Again with the mythical Palestine. Again with the wikipedia references. The least credible, the least accurate, the most biased source.
He'd rather deal in propaganda that supports his racist belief than deal with reality. He's no better than the 9/11 truthers.
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He'd rather deal in propaganda that supports his racist belief than deal with reality. He's no better than the 9/11 truthers.
That seems to be fleshing out just as you describe.
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Again with the mythical Palestine. Again with the wikipedia references. The least credible, the least accurate, the most biased source.
No myth:
"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration)
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I say again, mythical palestine the borders of which are nebulous, and again with the wikipedia. It actually served to reinforce my point. Thank you george for agreeing with me.
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Mods, Admins please ban this racist asshole. and please move these two race-hate threads out of the terrorism forum at least. or disappear them please.
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No myth:
"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration)
Well, I guess the Pseudostinians can always rise up and take back what they perceive as "their" lands. That would be fun to watch.
Jews have been in those lands for 5000 years, dumb****. Their lands were stolen by the Muzzies when those goat-****ing cavemen left Saudi on their quest for global domination. The lands were returned to them in 1948. Here's an idea, why don't you take your moonbat ass over there to protest against the Jooooo "occupation" in the spirit of Rachel Corrie?
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I say again, mythical palestine the borders of which are nebulous, and again with the wikipedia. It actually served to reinforce my point. Thank you george for agreeing with me.
Obu...the Balfour Declaration is not mythological. It was submitted in 1917, about six years after the Royal Navy switched from coal to oil to power its imperial fleets. Do you think the timing was a coincidence?
"November 2nd, 1917
"Dear Lord Rothschild,
"I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
"I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
"Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour"
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/balfour.asp (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/balfour.asp)
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Mods, Admins please ban this racist asshole. and please move these two race-hate threads out of the terrorism forum at least. or disappear them please.
What's the point of visiting an internet political message board if you don't debate with people you couldn't discuss politics with for five minutes in the same room?
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What's the point of visiting an internet political message board if you don't debate with people you couldn't discuss politics with for five minutes in the same room?
You're just posting articles from biased websites, unwilling to use your own words to discuss anything. That's not debating....that's called trolling.
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What's the point of visiting an internet political message board if you don't debate with people you couldn't discuss politics with for five minutes in the same room?
Because we don't tolerate or respect racists.
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Because USGR 181 was a purely advisory resolution which required both Jew and Arab acceptance in order to take effect.
Arabs didn't understand why one-third of the population of Mandate Palestine was "given" 55% of the land.
In retrospect, the Arabs should have chosen earlier western inflicted partition plans:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#Earlier_proposals_for_partition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#Earlier_proposals_for_partition)
"The League of Nations granted Britain a mandate over Palestine as part of the Partitioning of the Ottoman Empire following World War I. A British census of 1918 estimated 700,000 Arabs and 56,000 Jews.[6]
"In the 1917 Balfour Declaration, the British foreign secretary stated that the British government viewed “with favour the establishment in Palestine of a National Home for the Jewish people [with the understanding that] nothing should be done to prejudice the civil and religious rights of the existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine . . . .†.[6]
"Neither partition nor statehood was mentioned as the means of accomplishing the National Home. Lord Curzon, who later succeeded Balfour as foreign secretary, wrote a memorandum expressing concern about what would become of the Arab inhabitants of Palestine who had 'occupied the country for the best part of 1,500 years' and would 'not be content either to be expropriated for Jewish immigrants, or to act merely as hewers of wood and drawers of water to the latter.' [6]
In 1937, the Peel Commission proposed a Palestine divided into an Arab state, a much smaller Jewish state (about 15%), and an international zone. The Arab leadership rejected the plan.
"The two main Jewish leaders, Chaim Weizmann and Ben Gurion had convinced the Zionist Congress to approve equivocally the Peel recommendations as a basis for more negotiation.[7][8][quotations 1][9]
"These proposals contained provisions for the relocation of Arab population to areas outside the borders of the new Jewish state, modelled on the population exchange between Greece and Turkey; they were also rejected by the Arab side."
Again, false. Let's start with the 55% canard. Mandatory Palestine included both sides of the Jordan River. The British arbitrarily separated the eastern territory to create the state of Transjordan, later just Jordan, as a reward to the Hashemites for services rendered. This constituted taking over 77% of the Palestine mandate and creating a whole new Arab state. The Jews received 55% of the remaining 23%, or 12.65% of the mandate, less than even the Peel Commission suggested (and, BTW, you ought to mention why the Peel Commission existed in the first place, which was to analyze the causes of the perpetual Arab/Muslim violence against Jews in the mandate, and which cited Arab intransigence as the primary cause). And, this also excludes the territories given to France under the Sykes-Picot Treaty (remember that the Roman province was "Syria Palestina" or Syrian Palestine). As the map of the original mandate demonstrates, the Israelis would have received a minute piece of land under the partition agreement.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Sykes-Picot.svg/533px-Sykes-Picot.svg.png)
Remember that Jerusalem, which had a Jewish majority going back centuries, was to be made into an open city, not part of either territory, something that the Arabs also objected to. No solution except 100% of the region being given to the Muslims/Arabs would have satisfied them, and once that was accomplished, they would have resumed their persecution of Jews and Christians, and given the number of former Nazis harbored by them, and the genocidal leanings of many of the Arab leaders, that persecution would have simply extended Hitler's policies.
Once again, you present half-truths as facts and ignore facts in order to present false arguments.
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Again, false. Let's start with the 55% canard. Mandatory Palestine included both sides of the Jordan River. The British arbitrarily separated the eastern territory to create the state of Transjordan, later just Jordan, as a reward to the Hashemites for services rendered. This constituted taking over 77% of the Palestine mandate and creating a whole new Arab state. The Jews received 55% of the remaining 23%, or 12.65% of the mandate, less than even the Peel Commission suggested (and, BTW, you ought to mention why the Peel Commission existed in the first place, which was to analyze the causes of the perpetual Arab/Muslim violence against Jews in the mandate, and which cited Arab intransigence as the primary cause). And, this also excludes the territories given to France under the Sykes-Picot Treaty (remember that the Roman province was "Syria Palestina" or Syrian Palestine). As the map of the original mandate demonstrates, the Israelis would have received a minute piece of land under the partition agreement.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Sykes-Picot.svg/533px-Sykes-Picot.svg.png)
Remember that Jerusalem, which had a Jewish majority going back centuries, was to be made into an open city, not part of either territory, something that the Arabs also objected to. No solution except 100% of the region being given to the Muslims/Arabs would have satisfied them, and once that was accomplished, they would have resumed their persecution of Jews and Christians, and given the number of former Nazis harbored by them, and the genocidal leanings of many of the Arab leaders, that persecution would have simply extended Hitler's policies.
Once again, you present half-truths as facts and ignore facts in order to present false arguments.
Once again, your "facts" are false.
By 1948 650,000 Jews and 1.2 million Arabs lived between the River and the sea.
UNGR 181 bestowed 55% of that land on one third of the population of Palestine.
The solution that both Jew and Arab sought in Palestine would have been obtained at the ballot box, but obviously that wouldn't have produced a Jewish state dependent upon western imperial powers for its existence.
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but obviously that wouldn't have produced a Jewish state dependent upon western imperial powers for its existence.
Hmm, last I checked, we didn't send divisions into Israel to protect them from the Muzzie dirtbags that declared war on them.
Once more...
Well, I guess the Pseudostinians can always rise up and take back what they perceive as "their" lands. That would be fun to watch.
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Hmm, last I checked, we didn't send divisions into Israel to protect them from the Muzzie dirtbags that declared war on them.
If anyone read some Soviet history, they would soon find out that it was Russia who instigated that whole thing to begin with.
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Hmm, last I checked, we didn't send divisions into Israel to protect them from the Muzzie dirtbags that declared war on them.
Once more...
Well, I guess the Pseudostinians can always rise up and take back what they perceive as "their" lands. That would be fun to watch.
Are you ready to provide the "Pseudostinians" with a level playing field?
"Military aid and procurement[edit]
"Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of military assistance from the United States since World War II, followed by Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, and Pakistan.[22]
"Since 1987, the U.S. has provided an average of $1.8 billion annually in the form of Foreign Military Sales (FMS), Foreign Military Financing (FMF) and funds to support research and development.[2]A bilateral memorandum of understanding was signed in January 2001, at the end of the Clinton administration, under which defense aid was increased to $2.4 billion annually from $1.8 billion, while the $1.2 billion of economic aid would be eliminated."
Or does a fair fight scare you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93United_States_military_relations#Military_aid_and_procurement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93United_States_military_relations#Military_aid_and_procurement)
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^You obviously have never heard of the Powell doctrine.
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More lame assed racist bull shit
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/HeroesAtWork/demotivational-poster-lion-facepaw.jpg)
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Are you ready to provide the "Pseudostinians" with a level playing field?
"Military aid and procurement[edit]
"Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of military assistance from the United States since World War II, followed by Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, and Pakistan.[22]
"Since 1987, the U.S. has provided an average of $1.8 billion annually in the form of Foreign Military Sales (FMS), Foreign Military Financing (FMF) and funds to support research and development.[2]A bilateral memorandum of understanding was signed in January 2001, at the end of the Clinton administration, under which defense aid was increased to $2.4 billion annually from $1.8 billion, while the $1.2 billion of economic aid would be eliminated."
Or does a fair fight scare you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93United_States_military_relations#Military_aid_and_procurement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93United_States_military_relations#Military_aid_and_procurement)
The Palestinians had their chance at a "level playing field" in 1948 and they refused.
And as far as aid to the Palestinians:
"Since the signing of the Oslo Accord in 1993, the U.S. government has committed more than $1.3 billion in economic assistance to the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
Since the end of 2000, Arab states have transferred to the Palestinian Authority monthly financial aid of $45 million (since April 2002 this sum was increased to $55 million). The European Union (EU) transfers to the PA approximately $9 million monthly. By the end of 2001, the Palestinians had received $4 billion (the figure is now closer to $5.5 billion) since the 1993 Oslo agreements.
This is the equivalent of $1,330 per Palestinian. By comparison, the Marshall Plan to rebuild Europe after World War II provided $272 per European (in today's dollars)."
The CIA - World Factbook, as of Sep. 27, 2006, estimated the amount of economic aid received by the West Bank and Gaza Strip and explained the methodology used to arrive at its estimate:
"Economic aid - recipient: $2 Billion from US (2004 est.)" [Total contributions over 50 + years] "This entry [economic aid estimate], which is subject to major problems of definition and statistical coverage, refers to the net inflow of Official Development Finance (ODF) to recipient countries. The figure includes assistance from the World Bank, the IMF, and other international organizations and from individual nation donors. Formal commitments of aid are included in the data. Omitted from the data are grants by private organizations. Aid comes in various forms including outright grants and loans. The entry thus is the difference between new inflows and repayments. These figures are calculated on an exchange rate basis, i.e., not in purchasing power parity (PPP) terms."
The European Union (EU), in a section on its website (accessed Sep. 26, 2006) titled "The EU's Relations with West Bank and Gaza Strip," stated the following:
"Since the outbreak of the second Intifada in September 2000... the European Community shifted much of its assistance from more long-term institution-building to badly needed humanitarian assistance and support to refugees through the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA)... The Council of the European Union, together with the European Parliament, endorsed the use of budget support in this context."
http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000592
All of that money. If it had been used properly the Palestinians should be living rather nicely and have all kinds of modern utilities and services for their people. Instead they use that money for this:
The Palestinian Authority is spending more than $5 million per month in salaries for 5,500 convicted and alleged terrorists imprisoned in Israel -- payments that defy congressional rules for U.S. funding to the PA, according to a new report from an Israeli research institute.
Palestinian Media Watch released a report last week that found that all Palestinian and Israeli minority Arabs in Israeli prisons for terror acts have been legally receiving a monthly salary from the PA under a new law passed in April that simply “formalizes what has long been a PA practice.â€
“The U.S. funds the PA’s general budget. Through the PA budget, the U.S. is paying the salaries of terrorist murderers in prison and funding the glorification and role modeling of terrorists,†the report reads.
The average salary of a prisoner is greater than Palestinian civil servants – prisoners on average receive 3,200 in Israeli shekels a month compared with 2,800 for civil servants.
The U.S. government provided nearly $600 million to the PA last year, including $225 million in direct budgetary assistance to the PA, the report stated. But the PA’s new law may violate congressional rules for providing financial aid to the region.
Under a 2010 funding legislation that lays out the rules for supplying money to the West Bank and Gaza, the secretary of state “shall take all appropriate steps to ensure that such assistance is not provided to or through any individual, private or government entity, or educational institution that the secretary knows or has reason to believe advocates, plans, sponsors, engages in, or has engaged in, terrorist activity,†according to the report.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/04/palestinian-authority-pays-millions-in-salaries-to-jailed-terrorists-with-help/
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If anyone read some Soviet history, they would soon find out that it was Russia who instigated that whole thing to begin with.
Do you have a link for your belief that "Russia...instigated the whole thing to begin with."
Russia lost twenty million people fighting Hitler.
In parts of that country, one in three buildings was totally destroyed.
The last thing Russia needed at the end of WWII was a multi-generational arms race with a continental superpower whose homeland infrastructure and civilian population were virtually untouched.
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Do you have a link for your belief that "Russia...instigated the whole thing to begin with."
Russia lost twenty million people fighting Hitler.
In parts of that country, one in three buildings was totally destroyed.
The last thing Russia needed at the end of WWII was a multi-generational arms race with a continental superpower whose homeland infrastructure and civilian population were virtually untouched.
Not counting Pearl Harbor.
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Russia lost twenty million people fighting Hitler.
In parts of that country, one in three buildings was totally destroyed.
And hos many more did Comunism...or Stalin for that matter kill?
The last thing Russia needed at the end of WWII was a multi-generational arms race with a continental superpower whose homeland infrastructure and civilian population were virtually untouched.
And yet they started it. Partition of Berlin ring a bell? Berlin airlift jog your memory?
YOu're just pissed because the U.S. finished it and in turn broke the Iron grip of the USSR on most of Europe.
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Do you have a link for your belief that "Russia...instigated the whole thing to begin with."
Russia lost twenty million people fighting Hitler.
In parts of that country, one in three buildings was totally destroyed.
The last thing Russia needed at the end of WWII was a multi-generational arms race with a continental superpower whose homeland infrastructure and civilian population were virtually untouched.
you'll have to do some Googling
EXCLUSIVE: New book reveals how KGB operation seeded Muslim countries with anti-American, anti-Jewish propaganda during the 1970s, laying the groundwork for Islamist terrorism against U.S. and Israel
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2348191/EXCLUSIVE-KGB-operation-seeded-Muslim-countries-anti-American-anti-Jewish-propaganda-1970s-laying-groundwork-Islamist-terrorism-U-S-Israeli-targets.html#ixzz2Z3OCmzry
Isabella Ginor, "The Cold War's Longest Cover-up: How and Why the USSR Instigated the 1967 War," MERIA, Vol. 7, No. 3 (September 2003), http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/2003/issue3/jv7n3a3.html.
http://www.volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_01_04-2009_01_10.shtml#1231474494
Terrorism and the Soviet Union
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you'll have to do some Googling
EXCLUSIVE: New book reveals how KGB operation seeded Muslim countries with anti-American, anti-Jewish propaganda during the 1970s, laying the groundwork for Islamist terrorism against U.S. and Israel
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2348191/EXCLUSIVE-KGB-operation-seeded-Muslim-countries-anti-American-anti-Jewish-propaganda-1970s-laying-groundwork-Islamist-terrorism-U-S-Israeli-targets.html#ixzz2Z3OCmzry
Isabella Ginor, "The Cold War's Longest Cover-up: How and Why the USSR Instigated the 1967 War," MERIA, Vol. 7, No. 3 (September 2003), http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/2003/issue3/jv7n3a3.html.
http://www.volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_01_04-2009_01_10.shtml#1231474494
Terrorism and the Soviet Union
FDR was thirty years ahead of Andropov:
"The Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement of 1944 was based on negotiations between the United States and Britain over the control of Middle Eastern oil. Below is shown what the American President Franklin D. Roosevelt had in mind for to a British Ambassador in 1944:
"Persian oil …is yours. We share the oil of Iraq and Kuwait. As for Saudi Arabian oil, it’s ours.[6]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_intervention_in_the_Middle_East (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_intervention_in_the_Middle_East)
You might want to Google Mohammad Mosaddegh if you're curious about Kermit Roosevelt's contribution to terror in the Middle East.
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Are you ready to provide the "Pseudostinians" with a level playing field?
I side with the people that want peace and democracy, so, **** no. Next? **** Muzzies and their pedophile prophet and **** you too. Go join them, DUmb****. I might even get a new smilie for you after you're stupid ass is flattened like a pancake by a D9.
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Not counting Pearl Harbor.
Neither the Russians nor Arafat bombed Pear Harbor, and Hawaii wasn't part of the US homeland in 1941.
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^You obviously have never heard of the Powell doctrine.
Luckily, Wiki has:
"The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_Doctrine#Analysis_and_CommentariesPowell Doctrine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_Doctrine#Analysis_and_Commentaries) has been reported as emerging legacy from Korean and Vietnam and 'Never Again vs. Limited War' policy debates (either win or don't start versus value of limited war) [4][5] and Weinberger's Six Tests described in his 1984 speech 'The Uses of Military Power'.[6] The Doctrine has been noted as not fully applicable for policy in conflicts that are humanitarian intervention, war of choice, protracted counter-insurgency or anti-terrorism, and where the criteria are subjective or open to differing interpetations."
Have you heard of any US wars since 1945 that were not war$ of choice?
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Have you heard of any US wars since 1945 that were not war$ of choice?
I guess brown folk and all kinda Asian people don't deserve freedom to you and you probably had no problem with the Commies moving in and trying to take over the Damn world, killing millions of the people that inhabited the lands they took over.
Then again, you're probably a Communist dickhead, so no, it probably doesn't matter to you. All for the hammer and sickle. Communist ****.
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The Palestinians had their chance at a "level playing field" in 1948 and they refused.
And as far as aid to the Palestinians:
http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000592
All of that money. If it had been used properly the Palestinians should be living rather nicely and have all kinds of modern utilities and services for their people. Instead they use that money for this:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/04/palestinian-authority-pays-millions-in-salaries-to-jailed-terrorists-with-help/
What percentage of those "jailed terrorists" have been convicted of any crime?
What percentage have been charged with any crime?
How many are children under the age of 18 being held to pressure their parents into conforming with Israel's occupation of Palestine?
Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza get $1.3 billion in US economic assistance over the last twenty years (none of it FMS) while Israel pockets $1.8 billion to $2.4 billion per year over the same time period. You're level playing field seems to pit Arabs with rocks against Jews with rockets.
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What percentage of those "jailed terrorists" have been convicted of any crime?
What percentage have been charged with any crime?
How many are children under the age of 18 being held to pressure their parents into conforming with Israel's occupation of Palestine?
Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza get $1.3 billion in US economic assistance over the last twenty years (none of it FMS) while Israel pockets $1.8 billion to $2.4 billion per year over the same time period. You're level playing field seems to pit Arabs with rocks against Jews with rockets.
Is it your problem that the U.S. is not arming the Arabs to wipe out Israel instead of arming Israel to defend itself?
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...Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza get $1.3 billion in US economic assistance over the last twenty years (none of it FMS) while Israel pockets $1.8 billion to $2.4 billion per year over the same time period. You're level playing field seems to pit Arabs with rocks against Jews with rockets.
Funny you should put it quite that way, dick breath. Because, as I recall, the "palestinians" - Only for the sake of argument am I granting that your butt buddies are a real people, Buckwheat; don't get your panties in a bunch - have fired more tons of explosive, in the form of Katusha rockets into Israel, than your other hard on, Nazi Germany, fired into England during the entirety of the 2nd World War. For a group of sub-humans who, you point out, is at a 20:1 disadvantage in American tax dollars to spend, they sure have an awful lot of cash on hand to buy ordinance in warehouse store quantities.
No question from me, feltcher. What good would it do? You're already ignoring facts and dodging questions from folks far more conversant in the issue than I am. Just wanted to point out that your ass was showing. Again.
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How many are children under the age of 18 being held to pressure their parents into conforming with Israel's the Jews occupation of Palestine?
Say what's on your mind, ****er. I guess the Pseudostinians could always take their sorry asses back to the home of their religion, Saudi. Oh, but wait, neither the Jordanians, nor the Syrians, nor the Saudis, nor the Iraqis, nor the Egyptians, nor the, name the ****ing Muzzie country, want them. Those Joooooooooos, however, well, they've been in that land for thousands of years, and thousands of years before that murderous, pedophilic, sexist, racist, backwards ****ing cult ever left Saudi Arabia. Let me guess, you think the Crusades were about taking Muzzie lands, don't you, you ****ing retard?
BTW, where was their hero Yasser born? If you say SW Asia, or the Middle East to make it regional, you'd be wrong.
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What percentage of those "jailed terrorists" have been convicted of any crime? All should have been executed not jailed
What percentage have been charged with any crime? See above
How many are children under the age of 18 being held to pressure their parents into conforming with Israel's occupation of Palestine? No such place, all in that territory is Israel's They need to eliminate all the terrorist that are living in their land
Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza get $1.3 billion in US economic assistance over the last twenty years (none of it FMS) while Israel pockets $1.8 billion to $2.4 billion per year over the same time period. You're level playing field seems to pit Arabs with rocks against Jews with rockets.The Israeli land invaders can pound sand If I had a say and as far as money goes they would be the recipient of that money in the form of atoms being split.
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I guess brown folk and all kinda Asian people don't deserve freedom to you and you probably had no problem with the Commies moving in and trying to take over the Damn world, killing millions of the people that inhabited the lands they took over.
Then again, you're probably a Communist dickhead, so no, it probably doesn't matter to you. All for the hammer and sickle. Communist ****.
That he is. He thinks Noam Chomsky is just the greatest. YOu know...the Communist idiot that denied the Killing Fields of Cambodia ever happened.
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Is it your problem that the U.S. is not arming the Arabs to wipe out Israel instead of arming Israel to defend itself?
My problem with arming the Jewish state stems from the fact that it's been condemned by the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Council#IsraelUN Human Rights Council (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Council#Israel) in 32 resolutions passed by the Council since 2006; that's roughly 48% of all country-specific resolution passed by the Council.
Since Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza began 46 years ago, approximately 750,000 Palestinians have been detained by the Occupying Power and it continues to flood the territory it occupies with its civilians, all in violation of established international law.
What makes you think supporting state-sponsored terror isn't a problem?
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That he is. He thinks Noam Chomsky is just the greatest. YOu know...the Communist idiot that denied the Killing Fields of Cambodia ever happened.
Noam's never denied the killing fields of Cambodia (or Laos) and he got a lot closer to those war crimes than you did:
"Noam agreed, and I guess we both had one of the most unique experiences of our lives — he on the back of my motorcycle, me driving him about the streets of Vientiane, as he sought to learn as much as he could about U.S. war-making in Laos, still at that point largely unknown to the world outside.
"It was only in the next month that Richard Nixon finally admitted for the first time that the U.S. had been bombing Laos for the previous six years, though he and Henry Kissinger continued to lie by claiming that the bombing was only striking military targets."
http://www.salon.com/2012/06/17/when_chomsky_wept/ (http://www.salon.com/2012/06/17/when_chomsky_wept/)
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Noam's never denied the killing fields of Cambodia (or Laos) and he got a lot closer to those war crimes than you did:
"Noam agreed, and I guess we both had one of the most unique experiences of our lives — he on the back of my motorcycle, me driving him about the streets of Vientiane, as he sought to learn as much as he could about U.S. war-making in Laos, still at that point largely unknown to the world outside.
"It was only in the next month that Richard Nixon finally admitted for the first time that the U.S. had been bombing Laos for the previous six years, though he and Henry Kissinger continued to lie by claiming that the bombing was only striking military targets."
http://www.salon.com/2012/06/17/when_chomsky_wept/ (http://www.salon.com/2012/06/17/when_chomsky_wept/)
You're a lying sack of crap. he did so deny they happened.
Chomsky was one of the chief deniers of the Cambodian genocide of the 1970s, which took place in the wake of the Communist victory and American withdrawal from Indochina. He directed vitriolic attacks towards the reporters and witnesses who testified to the human catastrophe that was taking place there. Initially, Chomsky tried to minimize the deaths (a “few thousandâ€) and compared those killed by Pol Pot and his followers to the collaborators who had been executed by resistance movements in Europe at the end of World War II. By 1980, however, it was no longer possible to deny that some 2 million of Cambodia's 7.8 million people had perished at the hands of the Communists. But Professor Chomsky continued to deny the genocide, proposing that the underlying problem may have been a failure of the rice crop. As late as 1988, Chomsky returned to the subject and insisted that whatever had happened in Cambodia, the U.S. was to blame.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1232
Chomsky and Herman ridicule the idea that the people are “suffering in misery under a savage oppressor bent on genocide,†a notion disproved by “common sense†(pp. 151-2). They argue that if the population is being slaughtered, one would expect “unwillingness to fight for the Paris-educated fanatics at the top,†whereas the record indicates that the Cambodian people “have not exactly been awaiting liberation from their oppressors†(p. 156). They suggest that the killers “may actually have saved many lives†(p. 160). Echoing the ideology of the Khmer Rouge, they denounce the country’s “urban society†as “a colonial implantation,†which the perpetrators “know only as a murderer and a remote oppressor,†and thus plainly deserves its fate (p. 290). In their eyes, the atrocities are a “direct and understandable response to the violence of the imperial system,†a suggestion that readers may well interpret as an explicit justification for mass murder (p. 291).
http://www.paulbogdanor.com/chomsky/cataclysm.html
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My problem with arming the Jewish state stems from the fact that it's been condemned by the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Council#IsraelUN Human Rights Council (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Council#Israel) in 32 resolutions passed by the Council since 2006; that's roughly 48% of all country-specific resolution passed by the Council.
The same U.N. Human rights council that allows Syria and Libya and other repressive regimes to be members?
Tell me troll...what country are you originally from? I'm guessing the Middle East.
Since Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza began 46 years ago, approximately 750,000 Palestinians have been detained by the Occupying Power and it continues to flood the territory it occupies with its civilians, all in violation of established international law.
Again with the lies and total willingness to ignore the truth.
What makes you think supporting state-sponsored terror isn't a problem?
Because Israel isn't a terrorist state.
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My problem with arming the Jewish state stems from the fact that it's been condemned by the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Council#IsraelUN Human Rights Council (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Council#Israel) in 32 resolutions passed by the Council since 2006; that's roughly 48% of all country-specific resolution passed by the Council.
Since Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza began 46 years ago, approximately 750,000 Palestinians have been detained by the Occupying Power and it continues to flood the territory it occupies with its civilians, all in violation of established international law.
What makes you think supporting state-sponsored terror isn't a problem?
Umm, if you're going to use a link, you might want to use one that doesn't prove what a bigot and anti-Semite you truly are. From the link you provided:
Israel
Overview
As of 2010, Israel had been condemned in 32 resolutions by the Council since its creation in 2006. The 32 resolutions comprised 48.1% of all country-specific resolutions passed by the Council. By April 2007, the Council had passed nine resolutions condemning Israel, the only country which it had specifically condemned. Toward Sudan, a country with human rights abuses as documented by the Council's working groups, it has expressed "deep concern.".
The council voted on 30 June 2006 to make a review of alleged human rights abuses by Israel a permanent feature of every council session. The Council's special rapporteur on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is its only expert mandate with no year of expiry. The resolution, which was sponsored by Organisation of the Islamic Conference, passed by a vote of 29 to 12 with five abstentions. Human Rights Watch urged it to look at international human rights and humanitarian law violations committed by Palestinian armed groups as well. Human Rights Watch called on the Council to avoid the selectivity that discredited its predecessor and urged it to hold special sessions on other urgent situations, such as that in Darfur.
The Special Rapporteur on the question of Palestine to the previous UNCHR, the current UNHRC and the General Assembly was, between 2001 and 2008, John Dugard. Bayefski quotes him as saying that his mandate is to "investigate human rights violations by Israel only, not by Palestinians". Dugard was replaced in 2008 with Richard Falk, who has compared Israel's treatment of Palestinians with the Nazis' treatment of Jews during the Holocaust. Like his predecessor, Falk's mandate only covers Israel’s human rights record. The Palestinian Authority has informally asked Falk to resign, among other reasons due to viewing him as "a partisan of Hamas." Falk disputes this and has called the reasons given "essentially untrue". In July 2011, Richard Falk posted a cartoon some critics has described as anti-Semitic onto his blog. The cartoon depicted a bloodthirsty dog with the word "USA" on it wearing a kippah, or Jewish head covering. In response, Falk was heavily criticized by world leaders in the United States and certain European countries. The United States called Falk's behavior "shameful and outrageous" and "an embarrassment to the United Nations", and officially called on him to resign. US Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, chairwoman of the US House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee called on Falk to resign as well. The Anti-Defamation League described the cartoon as a "message of hatred".
The UN Human Rights Council was castigated by Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu for facilitating an event featuring a Hamas politician. The Hamas parliamentarian had spoken at an NGO event in the UN Geneva building. Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Ron Prosor, denounced the speech stating that Hamas was an internationally recognized terrorist organization that targeted civilians. “Inviting a Hamas terrorist to lecture to the world about human rights is like asking Charles Manson to run the murder investigation unit at the NYPDâ€, he said.
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Umm, if you're going to use a link, you might want to use one that doesn't prove what a bigot and anti-Semite you truly are. From the link you provided:
Oops...left out an important piece of info there.
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Oops...left out an important piece of info there.
No surprise really. I love it when I can use a troll's own link to show what a putz they are. :-)
And there's more in that article that proves that the majority of the members on that counsel have a bitter hatred of the state of Israel. I didn't bring it over because it would have been too long to post here.
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So, our new anti semite is a troll, and a fraud.
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So, our new anti semite is a troll, and a fraud.
Nothing more complicated. Usually isn't.
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So, our new anti semite is a troll, and a fraud.
I've seen this same thing happen on other sites. I think their obsession with this is a mental disorder.
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Newsflash, troll, while the Soviets did in fact lose 20 million during WWII, that number is probably a welcome respite compared to the Ukranian genocide and Stalinist purges of the 1930's. And I'm sure as shit it is a drop in the bucket compared to Mao's "Great Leap Forward" of the 50's and 60's.
Your ball, dickhead.
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Newsflash, troll, while the Soviets did in fact lose 20 million during WWII, that number is probably a welcome respite compared to the Ukranian genocide and Stalinist purges of the 1930's. And I'm sure as shit it is a drop in the bucket compared to Mao's "Great Leap Forward" of the 50's and 60's.
Your ball, dickhead.
Greatest Purveyor of Violence on the Planet.
20 million (mostly civilians) murdered, maimed, and displaced from Korea to Kandahar since 1945.
Are you proud, slave?
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Greatest Purveyor of Violence on the Planet.
20 million (mostly civilians) murdered, maimed, and displaced from Korea to Kandahar since 1945.
Are you proud, slave?
Oooooh, looks like we've hit a nerve on this troll. So tell us troll...where did you get that number? And please use unbiased sources, not the hate America ones you seem to favor.
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Greatest Purveyor of Violence on the Planet.
That would be Josef Stalin and the scourge of Communism.
According to the documentary, "Stalin, Portrait of a Monster in Blood." He is estimated to have been responsible for possibly 60 Million Deaths.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_did_Stalin_kill
You can probably double or triple that number when you add in Chairman Mau...Pol Pot...Castro...Ho Che Minh and the retards in N. Korea.
20 million (mostly civilians) murdered, maimed, and displaced from Korea to Kandahar since 1945.
Got a link for that you racist pr*ck? Do you forget who was the aggressor in Korea in 1950?
Nah didn't think so.
Are you proud, slave?
What's your DU name?
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Greatest Purveyor of Violence on the Planet.
20 million (mostly civilians) murdered, maimed, and displaced from Korea to Kandahar since 1945.
Are you proud, slave?
Oooooh, looks like we've hit a nerve on this troll. So tell us troll...where did you get that number? And please use unbiased sources, not the hate America ones you seem to favor.
What would you know about unbiased sources?
Don't hurt yourself:
http://www.thecrimson.com/writer/256738/Fred__Branfman/ (http://www.thecrimson.com/writer/256738/Fred__Branfman/)
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What would you know about unbiased sources?
Don't hurt yourself:
http://www.thecrimson.com/writer/256738/Fred__Branfman/ (http://www.thecrimson.com/writer/256738/Fred__Branfman/)
The Crimson? Are you sh*tting me? A college newspaper from one of THE most liberal colleges in the nation?
:rotf:
As for the author...no one here will be shocked to find out that:
Fred Branfman is an American anti-war activist and author of a number of books about the Indochina War.
Branfman worked as a policy advisor for former California governor Jerry Brown, Gary Hart and Tom Hayden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Branfman
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Greatest Purveyor of Violence on the Planet.
20 million (mostly civilians) murdered, maimed, and displaced from Korea to Kandahar since 1945.
Are you proud, slave?
Stalin got that in one purge.
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Stalin got that in one purge.
He's not even using his own words when he makes those lame ass statements...he's cutting and pasting straight from that idiot Branfman....who is BFF's with Chomsky.
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Newsflash, troll, while the Soviets did in fact lose 20 million during WWII, that number is probably a welcome respite compared to the Ukranian genocide and Stalinist purges of the 1930's. And I'm sure as shit it is a drop in the bucket compared to Mao's "Great Leap Forward" of the 50's and 60's.
Your ball, dickhead.
The funny thing is the Soviet Union would of lost less during World War II had Stalin not purged military officers. For Soviet Union, World War II was a war of attrition. Stalin was responsible for around 40 to 60 million killed.
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The Crimson? Are you sh*tting me? A college newspaper from one of THE most liberal colleges in the nation?
:rotf:
As for the author...no one here will be shocked to find out that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Branfman
A college newspaper?
What's your problem, moron, too many big words?
FYI Fred Branfman is also an eyewitness to war crimes, not that racist tools like you would care
"One particular fact puzzled me during my investigations of the air war. All the refugees said the worst bombing occurred from the end of 1968 until the summer of 1969. They were bombed daily, every village was leveled, thousands were murdered and maimed. But I knew from U.S. Embassy friends that there were no more than a few thousand North Vietnamese troops in Laos at the time, and that there was no military reason for the sudden and brutal increase in U.S. bombing. Why, then, had this aerial holocaust occurred?
And then, to my everlasting horror, I found out. At Senator Fulbright's hearing, he asked Deputy Chief of Mission Monteagle Stearns why the bombing of northern Laos had so intensified after Lyndon Johnson's bombing halt over North Vietnam. Stearns answered simply:
"Well, we had all those planes sitting around and couldn't just let them stay there with nothing to do." (13)"
http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/db_article.php?article_id=494 (http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/db_article.php?article_id=494)
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You're a lying sack of crap. he did so deny they happened.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1232
http://www.paulbogdanor.com/chomsky/cataclysm.html
Noam Chomsky is also a Holocaust denier.
Noam Chomsky Calls Elie Wiesel “One of The Major Frauds of Our Timeâ€
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/02/13/noam-chomsky-calls-elie-wiesel-“one-of-the-major-frauds-of-our-timeâ€/
Partners in Hate
http://wernercohn.com/Chomsky.html
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Stalin got that in one purge.
Not on the opposite side of the planet from his homeland.
How many Indians were purged from yours?
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Not on the opposite side of the planet from his homeland.
How many Indians were purged from yours?
That's an interesting turn of phrase.
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That's an interesting turn of phrase.
Makes you wonder where this racist bastard considers HIS homeland, doesn't it.
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Makes you wonder where this racist bastard considers HIS homeland, doesn't it.
Personally...I think george is a fraud. I don't have access to his IP so I can't track it down.
Edit: Bleh, multitasking.
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Personally...I george is a fraud. I don't have access to his IP so I track it down.
Well, bald faced bullshitting is something of a character trait for both racist assholes AND adherents of the Communist/Socialist/Marxist doctrine. As this clown has claimed BOTH, it's highly likely he's constitutionally incapable of honestly telling us the color of the damned sky in his universe.
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He called txradioguy a moron. His end of civility should be the end of his welcome.
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He called txradioguy a moron. His end of civility should be the end of his welcome.
Well, when Marxists and Racists alike are losing the debate, they uniformly resort to name calling and ad hominem attacks. By addressing Tx as "moron", our dear visiting troll was conceding that he was out of cut and paste arguments to make.
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What would you know about unbiased sources?
Don't hurt yourself:
http://www.thecrimson.com/writer/256738/Fred__Branfman/ (http://www.thecrimson.com/writer/256738/Fred__Branfman/)
What do I know about unbiased sources you ask? Well, judging by your postings troll, about 1000 times more than you.
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I'm late gettin' to the party, but I'm here to witness how precisely george utterly failed to address Ody's post, and others as well.
And, as how george's patience is wearing thin (calling TRG a moron is a pretty good indicator), I'd say that george will either troll elsewhere or completely melt down in a rather dismal, putrifying example of suicide-by-mod.
It's really nice to see these trolls surface once in awhile. Kinda gives me faith in humanity that scorch marks like george here can be eliminated by simply standing back and watching self-immolation occur.
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I'm late gettin' to the party, but I'm here to witness how precisely george utterly failed to address Ody's post, and others as well.
And, as how george's patience is wearing thin (calling TRG a moron is a pretty good indicator), I'd say that george will either troll elsewhere or completely melt down in a rather dismal, putrifying example of suicide-by-mod.
It's really nice to see these trolls surface once in awhile. Kinda gives me faith in humanity that scorch marks like george here can be eliminated by simply standing back and watching self-immolation occur.
Better late than never.
Why don't you list my single most glaring utter failure in addressing Ody' post, and I'll try to enlighten you?
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Oh good, you haven't got the ban hammer yet.
I was wanting to ask you what country do you really hail from, nothing specific just the country.
I'm betting on France.
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My problem with arming the Jewish state stems from the fact that it's been condemned by the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Council#IsraelUN Human Rights Council (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Council#Israel) in 32 resolutions passed by the Council since 2006; that's roughly 48% of all country-specific resolution passed by the Council.
The same UN that had the Sudan on it's Human Right's Commission and Iran on the disarmament committee? **** the UN, clown. They have absolutely ZERO ****ing power, as it should be. They're nothing but a country club for despots and dictators with no moral ground to stand on.
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Greatest Purveyor of Violence on the Planet.
20 million (mostly civilians) murdered, maimed, and displaced from Korea to Kandahar since 1945.
Are you proud, slave?
I'm sure the South Koreans are all upset about us helping them. :whatever:
(http://humoresyamores.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/north-south-korea-lights.jpg)
As for the people in Kandahar, I guess that shows them they shouldn't be harboring ****ing terrorists who declare war on America. Action = Reaction.
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Makes you wonder where this racist bastard considers HIS homeland, doesn't it.
Makes me wonder why the keyboard-commando ***** doesn't hop on a jet and get the **** out of my "Exceptional Country".
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Oh good, you haven't got the ban hammer yet.
I was wanting to ask you what country do you really hail from, nothing specific just the country.
I'm betting on France.
I was born in Michigan (1947), and I've lived in southern California for more than 60 years, Hoosier.
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I was born in Michigan (1947), and I've lived in southern California for more than 60 years, Hoosier.
The only reason I ask is that you admitted yourself that the USA is not your country.
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I was born in Michigan (1947), and I've lived in southern California for more than 60 years, Hoosier.
Tell the truth, you're not really very comfortable in this forum, right ? You don't sense that you are a good fit for this forum, right ?
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I was born in Michigan (1947), and I've lived in southern California for more than 60 years, Hoosier.
And we'll believe that when pigs fly.
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Tell the truth, you're not really very comfortable in this forum, right ? You don't sense that you are a good fit for this forum, right ?
You're right.
I don't feel as comfortable on CC as I do on other boards.
I'm not so sure about the "good fit", however.
(Look at the number of replies column on the first page of "Terrorism In the US and Around the World"
Diversity of opinion can be far more useful to all of us than preaching to the choir.
It's pretty clear to me I wouldn't survive five minutes in the same room with many of the regulars here if we discussed politics or religion.
The internet changes that fit completely, IMHO, and I'm even more uncomfortable with missing the chance to communicate regularly with those who've had life experiences I will never know.
Let's draw a line in the sand and set a deadline for my posting on CC.
When the deadline arrives, I'll go or stay based on majority rule.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm only here because I got a two week ban from another board for saying something really chicken-shit to a pair of combat vets (I called them shit stains on the fabric of freedom)
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FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm only here because I got a two week ban from another board for saying something really chicken-shit to a pair of combat vets (I called them shit stains on the fabric of freedom)
And continued it here with the Male Bovine Excrement you continually spew.
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You're right.
I don't feel as comfortable on CC as I do on other boards.
I'm not so sure about the "good fit", however.
(Look at the number of replies column on the first page of "Terrorism In the US and Around the World"
Diversity of opinion can be far more useful to all of us than preaching to the choir.
It's pretty clear to me I wouldn't survive five minutes in the same room with many of the regulars here if we discussed politics or religion.
The internet changes that fit completely, IMHO, and I'm even more uncomfortable with missing the chance to communicate regularly with those who've had life experiences I will never know.
Let's draw a line in the sand and set a deadline for my posting on CC.
When the deadline arrives, I'll go or stay based on majority rule.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm only here because I got a two week ban from another board for saying something really chicken-shit to a pair of combat vets (I called them shit stains on the fabric of freedom)
Quite frankly you anti-semitism creeps me out so much I don't think you stand much of a chance.
I have advise I could give you but I don't really want you hanging around.
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Better late than never.
Why don't you list my single most glaring utter failure in addressing Ody' post, and I'll try to enlighten you?
Why should I repeat what Ody has already said?
Do your own homework, hon. :-*
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I was born in Michigan (1947), and I've lived in southern California for more than 60 years, Hoosier.
If what you say is true, I'm ashamed that we both hail from the same state. You give Michiganders a bad name.
But then again, you allegedly have lived in the Land of Fruits and Nuts for so long you wouldn't recognize the truth if it hit you in the balls.
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FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm only here because I got a two week ban from another board for saying something really chicken-shit to a pair of combat vets (I called them shit stains on the fabric of freedom)
So you admittedly state that you said something "chicken-shit" to a pair of combat vets?
And then you waltz into a site like this and spread more of your bigoted filth around?
Tell me, O Great Wun of Unimaginable Intellect, why would you do that?
You do know, of course, what the definition of "insanity" is, right?
How long have you been a certifiable wacko? Have you gotten medical care yet? If not, do you intend to? More importantly, who is going to pay for your mental health care?
Please don't tell me you're on welfare.
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You're right.
I don't feel as comfortable on CC as I do on other boards.
I'm not so sure about the "good fit", however.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm only here because I got a two week ban from another board for saying something really chicken-shit to a pair of combat vets (I called them shit stains on the fabric of freedom)
I'm not so sure that you're a "good fit" here, either. I WILL say this; you disrespect our Veterans here and it WON'T be a "two week ban"! :hammer: :hammer:
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You're right.
I don't feel as comfortable on CC as I do on other boards.
Hmm, you hate Jews, are a stupid ****ing Prog, are anti-semitic, don't seem to have a problem with Communism, think there is no such thing as American exceptionalism, and, in general, hate the country that affords you the right to spew such bullshit.
Yeah, I have no CLUE why you don't feel comfortable here. :whatever:
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FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm only here because I got a two week ban from another board for saying something really chicken-shit to a pair of combat vets (I called them shit stains on the fabric of freedom)
You think you got it bad at whatever other board you came from for disrespecting combat veterans like myself....try that shit here you Jew hating f*cknut...you'll WISH you were back on the other board you crawled away from.
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Better late than never.
Why don't you list my single most glaring utter failure in addressing Ody' post, and I'll try to enlighten you?
Ummm...how about ALL of your response. You're whole response was canned cut and paste fail.
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A college newspaper?
What's your problem, moron, too many big words?
Moron? Aww are you upset that I insulted your fellow Communist?
FYI Fred Branfman is also an eyewitness to war crimes, not that racist tools like you would care
So he says. But given the penchant for Liberals fabricating things out of whole cloth...it's highly suspect that he really did.
Racist tool? That's rich. I'm not the one coming in here stinking up the joint with anti-Semetic bullish*t.
The only racist tool here is you. They need to stamp Craftsman on your forehead.
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I'm not so sure that you're a "good fit" here, either. I WILL say this; you disrespect our Veterans here and it WON'T be a "two week ban"! :hammer: :hammer:
Hmm, you hate Jews, are a stupid ****ing Prog, are anti-semitic, don't seem to have a problem with Communism, think there is no such thing as American exceptionalism, and, in general, hate the country that affords you the right to spew such bullshit.
Yeah, I have no CLUE why you don't feel comfortable here. :whatever:
Why wait? Lets make it official. Georgie burned out his short fuse long ago.
He will only return to spew more filth.
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The same UN that had the Sudan on it's Human Right's Commission and Iran on the disarmament committee? **** the UN, clown. They have absolutely ZERO ****ing power, as it should be. They're nothing but a country club for despots and dictators with no moral ground to stand on.
Sudan and Iran don't have much to say about the UNSC, however.
"Issues relating to the State of Israel, the State of Palestine and other aspects of the Arab–Israeli conflict occupy repeated annual debate times, resolutions and resources at the United Nations. Since its founding in 1948, the United Nations Security Council, as of January 2010, has adopted 79 resolutions directly critical of Israel for violations of U.N. Security Council resolutions, the U.N. Charter, the Geneva Conventions, international terrorism, or other violations of international law."
Malign the UN all you want, but Israel doesn't exist today as a Jewish state without its blessing.
"The adoption on November 29, 1947 by the United Nations General Assembly of a resolution recommending the adoption and implementation of a plan of partition of Palestine was one of the earliest acts of the United Nations..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel,_Palestine,_and_the_United_Nations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel,_Palestine,_and_the_United_Nations)
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Since its founding in 1948, the United Nations Security Council, as of January 2010, has adopted 79 resolutions directly critical of Israel for violations of U.N. Security Council resolutions, the U.N. Charter, the Geneva Conventions, international terrorism, or other violations of international law."
Every time Hezbollah or hamas or the PLO fires rockets into Israel and the IDF retaliates...some Arab nation files a complaint with the SC.
Every time an Arab nation attacks israel and they fight back...some Arab nation files a complaint with the SC.
Israel builds a security fence as it's legally allowed to do...some Arab nation files a complaint with the SC.
And if you look at a laundry list of the "violations" they are quite silly. They range from what I mentioned above to complaining about:
Apr 27, 68): Called on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem.
Res. 251 (May 2, 68): Deeply deplored Israel's military parade in Jerusalem and declared invalid
Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as its capital.
They are specious claims and complaints ment to gum up the system.
Even you should be smart enough to see the pattern here. Or is your hatred that blinding?
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I'm sure the South Koreans are all upset about us helping them. :whatever:
(http://humoresyamores.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/north-south-korea-lights.jpg)
As for the people in Kandahar, I guess that shows them they shouldn't be harboring ****ing terrorists who declare war on America. Action = Reaction.
South Korea is a long way from Israel; however, there were a few North Korean Nuclear nerds killed when the IAF blew up Syria's nuclear reactor in 2007.
After WWII many Koreans (and Vietnamese) felt no need for US "help" in establishing their democracies:
"Lyuh Woon-hyung (May 25, 1886 – July 19, 1947) was a Korean politician who argued that Korean independence was essential to world peace, and a reunification activist who struggled for the independent reunification of Korea since its national division in 1945.
"He is rare among politicians in modern Korean history in that he is revered in both South and North Korea."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeo_Un-hyeong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeo_Un-hyeong)
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South Korea is a long way from Israel; however, there were a few North Korean Nuclear nerds killed when the IAF blew up Syria's nuclear reactor in 2007.
They shouldn't have bee there trying to help a thuggis regime get nukes.
After WWII many Koreans (and Vietnamese) felt no need for US "help" in establishing their democracies:
And they turned to Russia and China. Hence the communist regimes of North Korea and North Vietnam.
"Lyuh Woon-hyung (May 25, 1886 – July 19, 1947) was a Korean politician who argued that Korean independence was essential to world peace, and a reunification activist who struggled for the independent reunification of Korea since its national division in 1945.
I've been to the reunification building on the DMZ. ROK money built it for both sides to use. N. Korea refuses to even meet there. Won't even let families split by the war reunite there.
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Until the Jews began returning to the Land of Israel in increasing numbers from the late 19th century to the turn of the 20th, the area called Palestine was a deserted waste land that belonged to the Ottoman Empire, based in Turkey.
'Palestinianism' in and of itself lacks any substance of its own. Arab society on the West Bank and Gaza suffer from a deep social cleavage created by a host of rivalries based on divergent geographic, historical, sociological and familial allegiances.
What glues Palestinians together is a carefully nurtured hatred of Israel and the rejection of Jewish nationhood.
“All [that Palestinians] can agree on as a community is what they want to destroy, not what they want to build.â€1 New York Times Columnist Thomas Friedman
The Palestinians’ claim that they are an ancient and indigenous people fails to stand up to historic scrutiny. Most Palestinian Arabs were newcomers to British Mandate Palestine. Until the 1967 Six-Day War made it expedient for Arabs to create a Palestinian peoplehood, local Arabs simply considered themselves part of the ‘great Arab nation’ or ‘southern Syrians.’
There is no age-old Palestinian people. Most so-called Palestinians are relative newcomers to The Land of Israel.
Palestinian Arabs cast themselves as a native people in “Palestine†– like the Aborigines in Australia or Native Americans in America. They portray the Jews as European imperialists and colonizers. This is simply untrue.
Until the Jews began returning to the Land of Israel in increasing numbers from the late 19th century to the turn of the 20th, the area called Palestine was a God- forsaken backwash that belonged to the Ottoman Empire, based in Turkey.
The land’s fragile ecology had been laid waste in the wake of the Arabs’ 7th- century conquest. In 1799, the population was at it lowest and estimated to be no more than 250,000 to 300,000 inhabitants in all the land.
At the turn of the 20th century, the Arab population west of the Jordan River (today, Israel and the West Bank) was about half a million inhabitants and east of the Jordan River perhaps 200,000.3
The collapse of the agricultural system with the influx of nomadic tribes after the Arab conquest that created malarial swamps and denuded the ancient terrace system eroding the soil, was coupled by a tyrannous regime, a crippling tax system and absentee landowners that further decimated the population. Much of the indigenous population had long since migrated or disappeared. Very few Jews or Arabs lived in the region before the arrival of the first Zionists in the 1880s and most of those that did lived in abject poverty.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/12/debunking-the-biggest-lie-palestinian-.html
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They shouldn't have bee there trying to help a thuggis regime get nukes.
And they turned to Russia and China. Hence the communist regimes of North Korea and North Vietnam.
I've been to the reunification building on the DMZ. ROK money built it for both sides to use. N. Korea refuses to even meet there. Won't even let families split by the war reunite there.
I'm not saying North Korean elites are the good guys today. I am saying it's worth asking why Koreans who collaborated with the Japanese occupation of their homeland were being hunted down and exterminated in North Korea in 1945 while those who collaborated south of the 38th parallel were being offered jobs in the police and military forces.
This is from Lyuh's People's Republic of Korea Manifesto put forth a month after US forces landed at Inchon:
"The program of the PRK was presented in its September 14 twenty-seven point program.
"The program included: 'the confiscation without compensation of lands held by the Japanese and collaborators; free distribution of that land to the peasants; rent limits on the nonredistributed land; nationalization of such major industries as mining, transportation, banking, and communication; state supervision of small and mid-sized companies; …guaranteed basic human rights and freedoms, including those of speech, press, assembly, and faith;
"universal suffrage to adults over the age of eighteen; equality for women; labor law reforms including an eight-hour day, a minimum wage, and prohibition of child labor; and "establishment of close relations with the United States, USSR, England, and China, and positive opposition to any foreign influences interfering with the domestic affairs of the state."
Do you see anything objectionable in those goals?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_Korea#Program (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_Korea#Program)
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I'm not saying North Korean elites are the good guys today. I am saying it's worth asking why Koreans who collaborated with the Japanese occupation of their homeland were being hunted down and exterminated in North Korea in 1945 while those who collaborated south of the 38th parallel were being offered jobs in the police and military forces.
Link?
This is from Lyuh's People's Republic of Korea Manifesto put forth a month after US forces landed at Inchon:
"The program of the PRK was presented in its September 14 twenty-seven point program.
"The program included: 'the confiscation without compensation of lands held by the Japanese and collaborators; free distribution of that land to the peasants; rent limits on the nonredistributed land; nationalization of such major industries as mining, transportation, banking, and communication; state supervision of small and mid-sized companies; …guaranteed basic human rights and freedoms, including those of speech, press, assembly, and faith;
"universal suffrage to adults over the age of eighteen; equality for women; labor law reforms including an eight-hour day, a minimum wage, and prohibition of child labor; and "establishment of close relations with the United States, USSR, England, and China, and positive opposition to any foreign influences interfering with the domestic affairs of the state."
Do you see anything objectionable in those goals?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_Korea#Program (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_Korea#Program)
Those goals would be fine if thre was any truth to them. All you have to do is look at North Korea today to see that what they were proposing was a blatant lie.
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Link?
Those goals would be fine if thre was any truth to them. All you have to do is look at North Korea today to see that what they were proposing was a blatant lie.
When I look at North Korea today I see the result of the US prohibiting all Koreans the right of self-determination in 1945 in exactly the same way the UN denied Jews and Arabs the same opportunity in 1948. What part of one person/one vote scares you the most?
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Every time Hezbollah or hamas or the PLO fires rockets into Israel and the IDF retaliates...some Arab nation files a complaint with the SC.
Every time an Arab nation attacks israel and they fight back...some Arab nation files a complaint with the SC.
Israel builds a security fence as it's legally allowed to do...some Arab nation files a complaint with the SC.
And if you look at a laundry list of the "violations" they are quite silly. They range from what I mentioned above to complaining about:
Apr 27, 68): Called on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem.
Res. 251 (May 2, 68): Deeply deplored Israel's military parade in Jerusalem and declared invalid
Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as its capital.
They are specious claims and complaints ment to gum up the system.
Even you should be smart enough to see the pattern here. Or is your hatred that blinding?
Between March 1948 and Jaunuary 2009 the UNSC issued 224 Resolutions concerning/condemning Israel's treatment of Palestinians. Are you smart enough to spot the specious claim/complaints?
"The Palestine Question (11 Aug 1949)
Resolution 89 (17 November 1950): regarding Armistice in 1948 Arab-Israeli War and "transfer of persons".
Resolution 92: The Palestine Question (8 May 1951)
Resolution 93: The Palestine Question (18 May 1951)
Resolution 95: The Palestine Question (1 Sep 1951)
Resolution 100: The Palestine Question (27 Oct 1953)
Resolution 101: The Palestine Question (24 Nov 1953)
Resolution 106: The Palestine Question (29 Mar 1955) 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid.
Resolution 107: The Palestine Question (30 March)
Resolution 108: The Palestine Question (8 September)
Resolution 111: The Palestine Question (January 19, 1956) " ... 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
Resolution 113: The Palestine Question (4 April)
Resolution 114: The Palestine Question (4 June)
Resolution 127: The Palestine Question (January 22, 1958) " ... 'recommends' Israel suspends its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
Resolution 138: (June 23, 1960) Question relating to the case of Israel's capture of Adolf Eichmann, concerning Argentina's complaint that Israel breached its sovereignty.
Resolution 162: The Palestine Question (April 11, 1961) " ... 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
Resolution 171: The Palestine Question (April 9, 1962) " ... determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UN_resolutions_concerning_Israel#United_Nations_Security_Council_resolutions
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Malign the UN all you want, but Israel doesn't exist today as a Jewish state without its blessing.
Dafuq kind of retard talk is this? Is the UN going to send their army to destroy Israel if they get out of line or something? Good ****ing luck, Prog. The UN has no ****ing bearing on Israel's existence.
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After WWII many Koreans (and Vietnamese) felt no need for US "help" in establishing their democracies:
We helped one side, they're now a democracy. We fought against the other, they're a Communist dictatorship. Logic isn't your strong suit, is it, moonbat? On Vietnam, due to you ****ing Progs in the States, we finally pulled out of Vietnam, but we brought thousands of Vietnamese with us and they're now living successful lives around the country, many in Fayetteville, NC. Hey, why don't you go to Fayetteville and start spewing your bullshit to them about how well they'd be had they stayed in Vietnam when we left, ****er?
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Between March 1948 and Jaunuary 2009 the UNSC issued 224 Resolutions concerning/condemning Israel's treatment of Palestinians. Are you smart enough to spot the specious claim/complaints?
"The Palestine Question (11 Aug 1949)
Resolution 89 (17 November 1950): regarding Armistice in 1948 Arab-Israeli War and "transfer of persons".
Resolution 92: The Palestine Question (8 May 1951)
Resolution 93: The Palestine Question (18 May 1951)
Resolution 95: The Palestine Question (1 Sep 1951)
Resolution 100: The Palestine Question (27 Oct 1953)
Resolution 101: The Palestine Question (24 Nov 1953)
Resolution 106: The Palestine Question (29 Mar 1955) 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid.
Resolution 107: The Palestine Question (30 March)
Resolution 108: The Palestine Question (8 September)
Resolution 111: The Palestine Question (January 19, 1956) " ... 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
Resolution 113: The Palestine Question (4 April)
Resolution 114: The Palestine Question (4 June)
Resolution 127: The Palestine Question (January 22, 1958) " ... 'recommends' Israel suspends its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
Resolution 138: (June 23, 1960) Question relating to the case of Israel's capture of Adolf Eichmann, concerning Argentina's complaint that Israel breached its sovereignty.
Resolution 162: The Palestine Question (April 11, 1961) " ... 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
Resolution 171: The Palestine Question (April 9, 1962) " ... determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UN_resolutions_concerning_Israel#United_Nations_Security_Council_resolutions
I guess you're either brain-dead or lack basic reading conprehension skills, so I'll say it again,
**** THE UN!
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george is a persistent little anti semite. I'll give him that.
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george is a persistent little anti semite. I'll give him that.
Single-issue zealots usually are.
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When I look at North Korea today I see the result of the US prohibiting all Koreans the right of self-determination in 1945 in exactly the same way the UN denied Jews and Arabs the same opportunity in 1948. What part of one person/one vote scares you the most?
You're kidding right? Wait...sadly you're not. You're revising history to completely ignore who attacked whom in June of 1950. You're completely whitewashing over the brutal nature of Communist regimes, particularly the one in Pyongyang.
If the U.S. was preventing self determination, then South Korea would be in the same boat as the North. Yet look at how they are flourishing in a Democratic free market society.
The North cold have the same and Korea could be unified again if the North would ever get rid of it's Communist oppressors. But N. Korea is hell bent on reuniting the peninsula under Communist rule. And that's never gonna happen.
Kinda like the way the Palestinians could have their own land but refuse too because of who their neighbor is.
Why don't you just go ahead and admit it...there is NOTHING you will ever credit the U.S. for as far as doing anything good or positive. You hate Capitalism with a passion and detest democracy just as much.
We have one person one vote...every where there is Democracy. What part of that do you not get?
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Between March 1948 and Jaunuary 2009 the UNSC issued 224 Resolutions concerning/condemning Israel's treatment of Palestinians. Are you smart enough to spot the specious claim/complaints?
"The Palestine Question (11 Aug 1949)
Resolution 89 (17 November 1950): regarding Armistice in 1948 Arab-Israeli War and "transfer of persons".
Resolution 92: The Palestine Question (8 May 1951)
Resolution 93: The Palestine Question (18 May 1951)
Resolution 95: The Palestine Question (1 Sep 1951)
Resolution 100: The Palestine Question (27 Oct 1953)
Resolution 101: The Palestine Question (24 Nov 1953)
Resolution 106: The Palestine Question (29 Mar 1955) 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid.
Resolution 107: The Palestine Question (30 March)
Resolution 108: The Palestine Question (8 September)
Resolution 111: The Palestine Question (January 19, 1956) " ... 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
Resolution 113: The Palestine Question (4 April)
Resolution 114: The Palestine Question (4 June)
Resolution 127: The Palestine Question (January 22, 1958) " ... 'recommends' Israel suspends its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
Resolution 138: (June 23, 1960) Question relating to the case of Israel's capture of Adolf Eichmann, concerning Argentina's complaint that Israel breached its sovereignty.
Resolution 162: The Palestine Question (April 11, 1961) " ... 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
Resolution 171: The Palestine Question (April 9, 1962) " ... determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UN_resolutions_concerning_Israel#United_Nations_Security_Council_resolutions
All or most of them. Like I said before...Hamas Hezbollah or the PLO fire rockets at Israeli civilians...the IDF retaliates as they are justified to do and suddenly there's a complaint about Israel at the U.N.
You want everyone here to recognize the right to self determination and self defense by the Palestinians...yet refuse to give that same right to the Israelis.
Why is that?
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All or most of them. Like I said before...Hamas Hezbollah or the PLO fire rockets at Israeli civilians...the IDF retaliates as they are justified to do and suddenly there's a complaint about Israel at the U.N.
You want everyone here to recognize the right to self determination and self defense by the Palestinians...yet refuse to give that same right to the Israelis.
Why is that?
Because 650,000 Jews inflicted their nation upon 1.2 million non-Jews living between the River and the sea in 1948. No Jewish state? No Hamas or Hezbollah today.
"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
UN Security Council
Resolution 43
Date: April 1 1948
Meeting no.: 277
Code: S/714, I (Document)
Vote: For: 11 Abs.: 0 Against: 0
Subject: The Palestine question
Result: Adopted
Security Council composition in 1948:
permanent members:
CHN FRA UK USA USSR
non-permanent members:
ARG BEL CAN
COL SYR UKR
"United Nations Security Council Resolution 43, adopted unanimously on April 1, 1948, notes the increasing violence and disorder in Palestine, calling upon the Jewish Agency for Palestine and the Arab Higher Committee to make representatives available to the Security Council to arrange and enforce a truce. The Resolution further calls upon armed Arab and Jewish groups to cease acts of violence immediately."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_43 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_43)
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Dafuq kind of retard talk is this? Is the UN going to send their army to destroy Israel if they get out of line or something? Good ****ing luck, Prog. The UN has no ****ing bearing on Israel's existence.
You're confused about UNSCOP and the role it played in the creation of the Jewish state?
"The United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) was created on 15 May 1947[1][2] in response to a United Kingdom government request that the General Assembly 'make recommendations under article 10 of the Charter, concerning the future government of Palestine'. The British government had also recommended the establishment of a special committee to prepare a report for the General Assembly."
At the end of WWII the Brits were smart enough to choose democracy over empire so they handed their Palestine Problem off to the UN. Without the legal fig leaf provided by the UN, Israel would've been born dead, diplomatically speaking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNSCOP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNSCOP)
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Because 650,000 Jews inflicted their nation upon 1.2 million non-Jews living between the River and the sea in 1948.
You can keep repeating this until your racist @ss is finally banned form here. But it's a bald faced lie...and it's been proven repeatedly to be a bald faced lie.
No Jewish state? No Hamas or Hezbollah today.
Hezbollah was originally founded to fight the Christians in Lebanon. Israel has it'self to blame for Hamas ONLY because they encouraged Islamic activists in Gaza to counter the influence of the PLO.
"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
UN Security Council
Resolution 43
Date: April 1 1948
Meeting no.: 277
Code: S/714, I (Document)
Vote: For: 11 Abs.: 0 Against: 0
Subject: The Palestine question
Result: Adopted
Security Council composition in 1948:
permanent members:
CHN FRA UK USA USSR
non-permanent members:
ARG BEL CAN
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"United Nations Security Council Resolution 43, adopted unanimously on April 1, 1948, notes the increasing violence and disorder in Palestine, calling upon the Jewish Agency for Palestine and the Arab Higher Committee to make representatives available to the Security Council to arrange and enforce a truce. The Resolution further calls upon armed Arab and Jewish groups to cease acts of violence immediately."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_43 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_43)
You realize at that the time, the land that would become israel was still in British control don't you? And that Israel didn't become a state until four months AFTER that was filed?
Your blind hate and narrow single minded bigotry for the Jews has prevented you from doing anything approaching critical thinking or reasoning. Otherwise you'd have read what you posted...known when Israel was founded...and erased your stupidity.
Instead you decided to hit "post" and let everyone see what a clueless @ssclown you really are.
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22 countries and territories of the Arab League stretching from the Atlantic Ocean in the west to the Arabian Sea in the east, and from the Mediterranean Sea in the north to the Horn of Africa and the Indian Ocean in the southeast...a combined population of around 422 million people, with over half under 25 years of age and since 1948 they've blamed all of their problems on a postage stamp of a country barely 15 miles wide at some points.
The dirty little secret is they don't want any resolution to the problem solved. It's easier to blame the Jews and fan the flames of racism with anti-Semitic propaganda and dogma than fix your own problems. If the crsis were to end who would the leaders of those countries have to blame for the piss poor economies and low standards of living for their citizens?
How pathetic is that?
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You're kidding right? Wait...sadly you're not. You're revising history to completely ignore who attacked whom in June of 1950. You're completely whitewashing over the brutal nature of Communist regimes, particularly the one in Pyongyang.
If the U.S. was preventing self determination, then South Korea would be in the same boat as the North. Yet look at how they are flourishing in a Democratic free market society.
The North cold have the same and Korea could be unified again if the North would ever get rid of it's Communist oppressors. But N. Korea is hell bent on reuniting the peninsula under Communist rule. And that's never gonna happen.
Kinda like the way the Palestinians could have their own land but refuse too because of who their neighbor is.
Why don't you just go ahead and admit it...there is NOTHING you will ever credit the U.S. for as far as doing anything good or positive. You hate Capitalism with a passion and detest democracy just as much.
We have one person one vote...every where there is Democracy. What part of that do you not get?
You don't know enough Korean/US history to accuse anyone of revising it.
That history started long before 1950, and it began badly for the US (imperialist) side.
Feel like a Pop Quiz on Korea, Clown?
Meet your professor:
"GARY LEUPP is an an associate professor, Department of History, Tufts University and coordinator, Asian Studies Program. He can be reached at: gleupp@tufts.edu..."
Here's your first chance to demonstrate how much you know about US meddling in Korea:
"1. In 1866 the U.S. merchant ship General Sherman defied the laws of Korea (then pursuing a policy of strict isolation) by entering Korean waters, and sailing up the Taedong River towards Pyongyang to demand trade. What happened to the ship?
a. It was attacked by local people and soldiers, burned, and sunk, with the loss of its entire crew.
b. Its crew was politely told that since Korea was a satrapy of China all negotiations concerning commerce had to take place via Beijing.
c. It was welcomed, and Korean officials began discussing with the Americans a Treaty of Amity and Commerce."
http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/12/31/a-pop-quiz-on-korea/ (http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/12/31/a-pop-quiz-on-korea/)
Get it...General Sherman burned to the waterline in Pyongyang; do you think any of the crew hailed from Atlanta?
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You don't know enough Korean/US history to accuse anyone of revising it.
That history started long before 1950, and it began badly for the US (imperialist) side.
Feel like a Pop Quiz on Korea, Clown?
Meet your professor:
"GARY LEUPP is an an associate professor, Department of History, Tufts University and coordinator, Asian Studies Program. He can be reached at: gleupp@tufts.edu..."
Here's your first chance to demonstrate how much you know about US meddling in Korea:
"1. In 1866 the U.S. merchant ship General Sherman defied the laws of Korea (then pursuing a policy of strict isolation) by entering Korean waters, and sailing up the Taedong River towards Pyongyang to demand trade. What happened to the ship?
a. It was attacked by local people and soldiers, burned, and sunk, with the loss of its entire crew.
b. Its crew was politely told that since Korea was a satrapy of China all negotiations concerning commerce had to take place via Beijing.
c. It was welcomed, and Korean officials began discussing with the Americans a Treaty of Amity and Commerce."
http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/12/31/a-pop-quiz-on-korea/ (http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/12/31/a-pop-quiz-on-korea/)
Get it...General Sherman burned to the waterline in Pyongyang; do you think any of the crew hailed from Atlanta?
NONE of this has anything to do with what caused the Nort/South split on the peninsula or the driving factors surrounding it.
As usual when faced with someone who knows more about the current Korean situation than you...you troll through Wiki until you find some 200 year old slight by America and go "HA! see America is EVIL".
It's a typical Libtard manuver when they are completely incapable of debating modern history on the subject. It's a popular move among the primitives at Du as well.
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Here's a couple of 20th Century events who consequences continue to affect millions of Americans, Koreans, Japanese, and Filipinos:
"3. After the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-5, Japan acquired control over Korea, annexing it formally in 1910. In 1905 Japanese Prime Minister Katsura Tar? met secretly with U.S. Secretary of War William Howard Taft, producing the Taft-Katsura Agreement in which the U.S. recognized Japan’s interests in Korea. What did the U.S. receive in return?
a. Japanese agreement to limit emigration to the U.S.
b. Japanese recognition of U.S. colonial rule over the Philippines.
c. Japan’s renunciation to all claims to the Hawai’ian Islands.
4. At the Yalta Conference in February 1945, U.S. President Roosevelt and Soviet leader Joseph Stalin discussed the postwar future of Korea. Stalin advocated independence as soon as possible. Roosevelt
a. agreed to immediate independence
b. advocated a trusteeship of 20-30 years, citing the positive example of U.S. rule in the Philippines
c. suggested Korea remain a part of the Japanese Empire, to be occupied by Allied forces."
Can you connect those dots?
http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/12/31/a-pop-quiz-on-korea/ (http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/12/31/a-pop-quiz-on-korea/)
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The only "dots" I see connecting her is you continuing to use heavily biased hard left wing sources to try and justify a very ignorant stance on this that is short on facts and long on propaganda.
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The only "dots" I see connecting her is you continuing to use heavily biased hard left wing sources to try and justify a very ignorant stance on this that is short on facts and long on propaganda.
That's always the hard part, separating facts from propaganda.
We would have to agree on factual sources for any reasonable debate to be useful.
Here's Wiki's version of Taft-Katsura:
"The Taft–Katsura Agreement (Japanese: 桂・タフトå”定 Hepburn: Katsura-Tafuto KyÅtei?, also known as the Taft Katsura Memorandum) was a 1905 discussion between senior leaders of Japan and the United States regarding the positions of the two nations in greater East Asian affairs, especially regarding the status of Korea and Philippines in the aftermath of Japan's victory in the Russo Japanese War..."
"Some Korean historians (e.g., Ki-baik Lee, author of A New History of Korea, (Harvard U. Press, 1984) believe that the Taft–Katsura Agreement violated the 'Korean–American Treaty of Amity and Commerce' signed at Incheon on May 22, 1882 because the Joseon Government considered that treaty constituted a de facto mutual defense treaty while the Americans did not.
"The Joseon Dynasty, however, ended in 1897.
"The Agreement has been cited by some in Korea as an example that the United States cannot be trusted with regards to Korean security and sovereignty issues.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft%E2%80%93Katsura_Agreement#Korean_reaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft%E2%80%93Katsura_Agreement#Korean_reaction)
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That's always the hard part, separating facts from propaganda.
Yeah we've all noticed you have that problem.
We would have to agree on factual sources for any reasonable debate to be useful.
Well here's a hint lefty magazines...Noam Chomsky acolytes...and Egyptian sponsored websites are NOT factual sources.
But you'll never agree to not use them because with out them as back up...you're racist diatribe is nothing.
Here's Wiki's version of Taft-Katsura:
"The Taft–Katsura Agreement (Japanese: 桂・タフトå”定 Hepburn: Katsura-Tafuto KyÅtei?, also known as the Taft Katsura Memorandum) was a 1905 discussion between senior leaders of Japan and the United States regarding the positions of the two nations in greater East Asian affairs, especially regarding the status of Korea and Philippines in the aftermath of Japan's victory in the Russo Japanese War..."
"Some Korean historians (e.g., Ki-baik Lee, author of A New History of Korea, (Harvard U. Press, 1984) believe that the Taft–Katsura Agreement violated the 'Korean–American Treaty of Amity and Commerce' signed at Incheon on May 22, 1882 because the Joseon Government considered that treaty constituted a de facto mutual defense treaty while the Americans did not.
"The Joseon Dynasty, however, ended in 1897.
"The Agreement has been cited by some in Korea as an example that the United States cannot be trusted with regards to Korean security and sovereignty issues.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft%E2%80%93Katsura_Agreement#Korean_reaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft%E2%80%93Katsura_Agreement#Korean_reaction)
Still nothing there that puts the blame of how the two Koreas are today on the U.S.
But hey go ahead and keep contorting yourself like a pretzel to avoid the obvious answer.
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When I look at North Korea today I see the result of the US prohibiting all Koreans the right of self-determination in 1945 in exactly the same way the UN denied Jews and Arabs the same opportunity in 1948. What part of one person/one vote scares you the most?
Why didn't you provide the link/source of your information, as requested?
You are progressing, however. You're finally spewing your own vile, bitter hatred rather than cutting and pasting someone else's spew.
Well done, george. You'd be a rock star in the Third Reich.
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Why didn't you provide the link/source of your information, as requested?
You are progressing, however. You're finally spewing your own vile, bitter hatred rather than cutting and pasting someone else's spew.
Well done, george. You'd be a rock star in the Third Reich.
How many Reichs were there ?
Let's help our little anti semite a bit...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWAFcjaiACM[/youtube]
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Why didn't you provide the link/source of your information, as requested?
You are progressing, however. You're finally spewing your own vile, bitter hatred rather than cutting and pasting someone else's spew.
Well done, george. You'd be a rock star in the Third Reich.
Surely you have no objections to Wiki's spew:
"September 7, 1945, General MacArthur announced that Lieutenant General John R. Hodge was to administer Korean affairs, and Hodge landed in Incheon with his troops the next day. The troops occupied Southern Korea and took over comfort stations, then the women in comfort stations became western princess.[8]
"The Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea sent a delegation with three interpreters, but he refused to meet with them.
"Thus, they refused to recognize the People's Republic of Korea or the Korean Provisional Government.[9]
"In September 1946, South Korean citizens rose up against the Allied Military Government.
"The President of the Korean People's Government, the government-in-exile in Shanghai, and ardent anti-communist Syngman Rhee, was considered an acceptable candidate to provisionally lead the country since he was considered friendly to the US, having traveled and studied stateside.
"Under Rhee, the southern government conducted a number of military campaigns against left-wing insurgents who took up arms against the government and persecuted other political opponents. Over the course of the next few years, between 30,000[10] and 100,000 people would lose their lives during the war against the left-wing insurgents.[11]
"In April, 1948, Jeju islanders rose up against South Korean officials, and South Korea sent troops to repress the rebellion.
"Tens of thousands of islanders were killed and 70% of the villages were burned by the South Korean troops."
If a US General hadn't opposed Korean reunification elections in 1945, millions of Korean and thousands of US lives would not have been $acrificed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Korea#South_Korea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Korea#South_Korea)
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Surely you have no objections to Wiki's spew:
"September 7, 1945, General MacArthur announced that Lieutenant General John R. Hodge was to administer Korean affairs, and Hodge landed in Incheon with his troops the next day. The troops occupied Southern Korea and took over comfort stations, then the women in comfort stations became western princess.[8]
"The Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea sent a delegation with three interpreters, but he refused to meet with them.
"Thus, they refused to recognize the People's Republic of Korea or the Korean Provisional Government.[9]
"In September 1946, South Korean citizens rose up against the Allied Military Government.
"The President of the Korean People's Government, the government-in-exile in Shanghai, and ardent anti-communist Syngman Rhee, was considered an acceptable candidate to provisionally lead the country since he was considered friendly to the US, having traveled and studied stateside.
"Under Rhee, the southern government conducted a number of military campaigns against left-wing insurgents who took up arms against the government and persecuted other political opponents. Over the course of the next few years, between 30,000[10] and 100,000 people would lose their lives during the war against the left-wing insurgents.[11]
"In April, 1948, Jeju islanders rose up against South Korean officials, and South Korea sent troops to repress the rebellion.
"Tens of thousands of islanders were killed and 70% of the villages were burned by the South Korean troops."
If a US General hadn't opposed Korean reunification elections in 1945, millions of Korean and thousands of US lives would not have been $acrificed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Korea#South_Korea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Korea#South_Korea)
WTF does THIS have to do with your racial and religious bigotry?
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WTF does THIS have to do with your racial and religious bigotry?
You and I both know the answer. However it does go a long way towards showing the lite racist is one of those Libtards that blames America for everything bad that's ever happened in the world.