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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: obumazombie on June 19, 2013, 11:47:02 PM
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Without his telelprompter owebuma tends to display strong liberal logic...
Should Religions Have Their Own Schools, Churches, Buildings ? Or Is owbuma's Idea That They Should Share Them a Better Idea (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-if-catholics-have-their-schools-and-buildings-and-protestants-have-theirs)
Strong liberal logic equates to non existent objective logic.
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http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/06/19/obama-offends-catholics-in-the-uk-says-religious-schools-are-divisive-78053
(Link from Drudge Report)
You guys are not gonna believe this...
Obama offends Catholics in the UK, says religious schools are divisive.
The Catholic media is up in arms over comments President Obama made during a speech while in Northern Ireland for the G8 summit. Obama made what is described as “an alarming call for an end to Catholic education,†in spite of the fact that it is considered “a critical component of the Church.â€
In front of an audience of about 2,000 young people, including many Catholics, Obama claimed that Catholic education divides people and blocks peace, according to the Scottish Catholic Observer.
“If towns remain divided—if Catholics have their schools and buildings and Protestants have theirs, if we can’t see ourselves in one another and fear or resentment are allowed to harden—that too encourages division and discourages cooperation,†Obama said.
Catholic World News noted:
Ironically, President Obama made his comments just as Archbishop Gerhard Müller, the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, told a crowd in Scotland that religious education upholds the dignity of the human person. Archbishop Müller said that Catholic schools should promote “all that is good in the philosophies of societies and human culture.â€
Fr. John Zuhlsdorf quoted the Observer’s article on Fr. Z’s blog and added:
Another example of what this man wants: total isolation of any religious values in the private sphere alone. Pres. Obama is working either to intimidate or legislate or even TAX religious freedom out of the public square.
Off the top of my head, I can’t think of a foreign visit to a Islamic nation where he told people on his arrival that they shouldn’t have madrasas. Can you?
Did he when visiting, say, Israel, say “You Jews shouldn’t have synagogue schools and you muslims shouldn’t have mosque schools.†I can’t remember. Did he?
Each of the articles drew numerous public comments, most suggesting that Obama be more concerned about the public schools in the United States than their parochial schools, which are working just fine.
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Well, I'll give it to Oblahma, he's got foot in mouth disease, real bad.
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Barry's all about the proletariat and keeping it pure. :whatever:
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**** blammo and the mooch he rode in on.
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The Bummer and his union pals are trying very hard to destroy Catholic education.
http://www.workforcefreedom.com/blog/nlrb-goes-after-catholic-colleges
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Barry's all about the proletariat and keeping it pure. :whatever:
The education of all children, from the moment that they can get along without a mother's care, shall be in state institutions at state expense.
-Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels, The Communist Manifesto
The children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society which is coming, where everyone would be interdependent.
-John Dewey
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The education of all children, from the moment that they can get along without a mother's care, shall be in state institutions at state expense.
-Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels, The Communist Manifesto
The children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society which is coming, where everyone would be interdependent.
-John Dewey
State indoctrination is a key element of totalitarian regimes. That's why the DemonRats always side with the teacher's unions.
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The left and their unions would love to see the end to private education of any kind. Just like Homeschooling. Raising children with values and independent thinking is a threat to their communist goals.
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Obama made what is described as “an alarming call for an end to Catholic education,â€
Of course he whole heartedly endorses the expansion of madrassas throughout the world.
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I had a thread on this same subject...
King Of Divisiveness Decries Religious Freedom...
Mods, take a look and see if it wouldn't make sense to merge ?
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http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130620003-obama-catholic-ed.html
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The left and their unions would love to see the end to private education of any kind. Just like Homeschooling. Raising children with values and independent thinking is a threat to their communist goals.
Homeschooling allows some children to escape indoctrination and therefore should be discouraged.
Holder wanted a family from Germany deported even though the parents would face prosecution/persecution for homeschooling their children.
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I think most people here are taking what Obama said and not applying it to the situation in Northern Ireland.
Northern Ireland has been since the 60's a hotbed of sectarian conflict between Irish republicans who want all of Ireland to be part of the Republic, and then there's the loyalists who still want to be part of Great Britain. Guess what? The republicans tend to be Catholic, the loyalists tend to be Protestant, and both republican and loyalist paramilitaries have religious influences in their attacks (ex. loyalists attacked Catholic churches, etc.)
The reason Obama said what he said is not because he doesn't like religious freedom, it's because splitting education down religious lines in Northern Ireland will cause strife and more conflict rather than slowly getting rid of the sectarian divisions and conflicts that still plague Ireland today.
Try to apply this to the situation in the country rather than thinking he means "Oh, let's destroy all religious education for no real reason whatsoever."
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^It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to get to where you got. If lib logic is applied your reply becomes much more able to be decoded.
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It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to get to where you got. If lib logic is applied your reply becomes much more able to be decoded.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Are you saying I'm using liberal logic?
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The split in Ireland has been ongoing for four hundred years.
Obama's policies and ideas are like a bull in a china shop, or maybe better put.........like getting between a domestic dispute.
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I'm not sure what you mean by this. Are you saying I'm using liberal logic?
A person must be judged on what they say, not what someone else says they mean. This basic rule is used by libs to crucify conservatives, with the added twist of libs adding "dog whistle" designations. When it comes to libs judging libs it's the exact opposite, words are thrown out, and only implied meanings are operative.
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I think most people here are taking what Obama said and not applying it to the situation in Northern Ireland.
Northern Ireland has been since the 60's a hotbed of sectarian conflict between Irish republicans who want all of Ireland to be part of the Republic, and then there's the loyalists who still want to be part of Great Britain. Guess what? The republicans tend to be Catholic, the loyalists tend to be Protestant, and both republican and loyalist paramilitaries have religious influences in their attacks (ex. loyalists attacked Catholic churches, etc.)
The reason Obama said what he said is not because he doesn't like religious freedom, it's because splitting education down religious lines in Northern Ireland will cause strife and more conflict rather than slowly getting rid of the sectarian divisions and conflicts that still plague Ireland today.
Try to apply this to the situation in the country rather than thinking he means "Oh, let's destroy all religious education for no real reason whatsoever."
While religious zealotry is by no means dead in either the Republic of Ireland or in Northern Ireland, the principal tool for terrorism of the Irish Catholics -- the IRA and by extension, the Provos -- is no longer in business. That happened in 2005.
Sinn Fein, on the other hand, is still very much a voice. But it's a political voice rather than an armed one.
The reason Obama said what he said is not because he doesn't like religious freedom, it's because splitting education down religious lines in Northern Ireland will cause strife and more conflict rather than slowly getting rid of the sectarian divisions and conflicts that still plague Ireland today.
Do you honestly believe that hogwash above? Do you honestly think that Barry gives a rat's ass about religion, much less religious freedom? I'm curious as to how you can arrive at that conclusion, since Barry is essentially non-religious at all. And his efforts toward education aren't to develop education for its own benefits, but to be recipients for his own brand of propaganda -- but I'll admit straight up that that's my opinion.
The problem in Ireland is ongoing, though much less violent than it used to be.
That said, when religious education ceases, here comes more of socialism. You can bank on it.
But of course, that's what Barry wants.
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A person must be judged on what they say, not what someone else says they mean. This basic rule is used by libs to crucify conservatives, with the added twist of libs adding "dog whistle" designations. When it comes to libs judging libs it's the exact opposite, words are thrown out, and only implied meanings are operative.
Simple, concise and well constructed reply. I would have just said Yes.
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doesn't like religious freedom
That is a true statement. He does NOT like religious freedom.
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Simple, concise and well constructed reply. I would have just said Yes.
True !
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I think most people here are taking what Obama said and not applying it to the situation in Northern Ireland.
Northern Ireland has been since the 60's a hotbed of sectarian conflict between Irish republicans who want all of Ireland to be part of the Republic, and then there's the loyalists who still want to be part of Great Britain. Guess what? The republicans tend to be Catholic, the loyalists tend to be Protestant, and both republican and loyalist paramilitaries have religious influences in their attacks (ex. loyalists attacked Catholic churches, etc.)
The reason Obama said what he said is not because he doesn't like religious freedom, it's because splitting education down religious lines in Northern Ireland will cause strife and more conflict rather than slowly getting rid of the sectarian divisions and conflicts that still plague Ireland today.
Try to apply this to the situation in the country rather than thinking he means "Oh, let's destroy all religious education for no real reason whatsoever."
Jay Carney, is that you?
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Jay Carney, is that you?
Sure sounds like it.
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When it comes to libs I fancy myself part springer spaniel.
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When it comes to libs I fancy myself part springer spaniel.
I think I smell a troll, obumazombie.
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When it comes to libs I fancy myself part springer spaniel.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. which part?
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I'm not sure what you mean by this. which part?
Probably the ability to sniff out trolls.
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Probably the ability to sniff out trolls.
Not only sniff out, but flush out, then flush down.
Bad Dog, are you being bad again ?
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Not only sniff out, but flush out, then flush down.
Bad Dog, are you being bad again ?
I'm not sure what you mean by this, what do you mean by "bad".
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I'm not sure what you mean by this, what do you mean by "bad".
I think that word "bad" is nebulous and therefore, should be banned.
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I think that word "bad" is nebulous and therefore, should be banned.
Now we're getting somewhere !
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I think most people here are taking what Obama said and not applying it to the situation in Northern Ireland.
Northern Ireland has been since the 60's a hotbed of sectarian conflict between Irish republicans who want all of Ireland to be part of the Republic, and then there's the loyalists who still want to be part of Great Britain. Guess what? The republicans tend to be Catholic, the loyalists tend to be Protestant, and both republican and loyalist paramilitaries have religious influences in their attacks (ex. loyalists attacked Catholic churches, etc.)
The reason Obama said what he said is not because he doesn't like religious freedom, it's because splitting education down religious lines in Northern Ireland will cause strife and more conflict rather than slowly getting rid of the sectarian divisions and conflicts that still plague Ireland today.
Try to apply this to the situation in the country rather than thinking he means "Oh, let's destroy all religious education for no real reason whatsoever."
Bitch slap for writing excuses for the a$$hole in chief.
Point. What Obama said was just as bigoted in Ireland as it would have been in the USA. To somehow demonize a religious school is inherently wrong. Irish violence is political and not taught in schools.
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS. They are not divisive in Ireland they are not divisive in the US.
Maybe an drooling idiot like a liberal might be threatened by the free exercise of religion, but normal people are not. Obama is not normal, I question his sanity,
As for you Lex, there is Nothing to take into context. The Irish situation does not justify Obama's remarks. Nor does it excuse his asinine speech. That you tried to justify it makes me think far less of you.
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^Well said. I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
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I think most people here are taking what Obama said and not applying it to the situation in Northern Ireland.
Northern Ireland has been since the 60's a hotbed of sectarian conflict between Irish republicans who want all of Ireland to be part of the Republic, and then there's the loyalists who still want to be part of Great Britain. Guess what? The republicans tend to be Catholic, the loyalists tend to be Protestant, and both republican and loyalist paramilitaries have religious influences in their attacks (ex. loyalists attacked Catholic churches, etc.)
The reason Obama said what he said is not because he doesn't like religious freedom, it's because splitting education down religious lines in Northern Ireland will cause strife and more conflict rather than slowly getting rid of the sectarian divisions and conflicts that still plague Ireland today.
Try to apply this to the situation in the country rather than thinking he means "Oh, let's destroy all religious education for no real reason whatsoever."
1. Welcome to the forum.
2. Bullshit.
Your statements about the sectarianism in Ireland is amazingly shallow. First of all, which '60s are you talking about? Cromwell invaded in 1640, and the troubles have been going on ever since. Even the most cursory reading of history shows that the Catholic hedge-schools were the only way that an entire group of people learned about their heritage at all.
And the big 0 is about 15 years too late, as has been explained to you already.
If 0bama had any balls, he'd go to Egypt (our "ally") and decry the madras schools there that are breeding religious intolerance and hatred of the West. I'd love to hear him say that sectarian Muslim education breeds violence and intolerance.
Of course, he won't. Catholics in particular, and Christians in general, are easy targets for the left, because we don't behead or impale our enemies anymore. (See my Vlad Dracula thread).
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The split in Ireland has been ongoing for four hundred years.
Obama's policies and ideas are like a bull in a china shop, or maybe better put.........like getting between a domestic dispute.
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Go back further than that. Edward III was trying to kill off the Irish way before Cromwell.
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Go back further than that. Edward III was trying to kill off the Irish way before Cromwell.
In college, I took a class in modern Irish history. The years covered were 1591-present, lol.
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If 0bama had any balls, he'd go to Egypt (our "ally") and decry the madras schools there that are breeding religious intolerance and hatred of the West. I'd love to hear him say that sectarian Muslim education breeds violence and intolerance.
^That
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A person must be judged on what they say, not what someone else says they mean.
You've got a point there. I guess I was putting words in Obama's mouth.
While religious zealotry is by no means dead in either the Republic of Ireland or in Northern Ireland, the principal tool for terrorism of the Irish Catholics -- the IRA and by extension, the Provos -- is no longer in business. That happened in 2005.
Sinn Fein, on the other hand, is still very much a voice. But it's a political voice rather than an armed one.[1]
Do you honestly believe that hogwash above? Do you honestly think that Barry gives a rat's ass about religion, much less religious freedom? I'm curious as to how you can arrive at that conclusion, since Barry is essentially non-religious at all. And his efforts toward education aren't to develop education for its own benefits, but to be recipients for his own brand of propaganda -- but I'll admit straight up that that's my opinion.[2]
The problem in Ireland is ongoing, though much less violent than it used to be.
That said, when religious education ceases, here comes more of socialism. You can bank on it.[3]
But of course, that's what Barry wants.
I shall state your points according to the numbers posted near them.
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While the violence has definitely toned down in the recent years. The fight hasn't stopped. The only difference is the fight is now not carried out by guerrillas and paramilitaries, but by orators in suits, ties, and party banners. It's moved from a military conflict to a political conflict, and it still divides Ireland today as the Troubles did before, and the schism between Protestants and Catholics is still very much a factor in this division of Ireland.
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I'm sure Barry doesn't give a shit about your religion, or anyone else's religion for that matter, but to say that Obama is trying to bend education for his own propaganda isn't really a fact. He just doesn't have a high opinion of religious schools, does this instantly make him against religious freedom? No. That's like saying someone not having a high opinion of Adam Smith's works makes them a communist.
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Calling Obama a socialist is an insult to all actual socialists. Obama has shown time and time again that he is a capitalist. He shows the symptoms. Sucking up to big business, giving banks golden parachutes, etc. Socialists seek the destruction of the capitalist system. The overthrow of the bourgeoisie by the proletariat. So to call a man who has done all the things a capitalist would do a socialist simply because he shares more progressive capitalist policies than say a Republican would is an absolute farce. Marx would see Obama as a member of the bourgeois, not a proletariat. Even Leninists I've talked to absolutely despise him. They prefer him to Romney, but they still hate his guts.
Another thing, saying that taking religion out of schooling will lead to more socialism is something I think Mr. McCarthy would say.
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I'm starting to like Lex.
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The ruling class in any socialist society love capitalism, for themselves. The little people can neither be trusted with it, nor can they be allowed to use capitalism to break the chains of socialism their ruling class uses to stay in power.
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Calling Obama a socialist is an insult to all actual socialists. Obama has shown time and time again that he is a capitalist.
Bitch slap given for denying that Obama is a socialist. I'll bitch slap you again for comparing Adam Smith to a communist. And another BS will be given for continuing to support the statement that religious schools are divisive.
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Question for Lex. Do you agree with the president that religious schools are divisive?
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Another thing, saying that taking religion out of schooling will lead to more socialism is something I think Mr. McCarthy would say.
Except that all you have to do is look at the U.S. Education system and it's sorry state to know this is true. They do nothing BUT indoctrinate our kids with Socialist doctorine.
And as far as Joe McCarthy Is concerned. History has proven him correct.
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I shall state your points according to the numbers posted near them.
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While the violence has definitely toned down in the recent years. The fight hasn't stopped. The only difference is the fight is now not carried out by guerrillas and paramilitaries, but by orators in suits, ties, and party banners. It's moved from a military conflict to a political conflict, and it still divides Ireland today as the Troubles did before, and the schism between Protestants and Catholics is still very much a factor in this division of Ireland.
Same thing I said. Thanks for making my point for me.
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I'm sure Barry doesn't give a shit about your religion, or anyone else's religion for that matter, but to say that Obama is trying to bend education for his own propaganda isn't really a fact. He just doesn't have a high opinion of religious schools, does this instantly make him against religious freedom? No. That's like saying someone not having a high opinion of Adam Smith's works makes them a communist.
Barry takes EVERYTHING he talks about and bends it for his own propaganda (which he believes, btw). That's the very essence of politics. For you to think that your hero Barry is somehow immune from the very same disease that other politicians on both sides of the aisle have suffered from is monumentally shallow on your part.
Are you capable of critical thinking? Or do you simply swallow the feel good, warm 'n fuzzy leftist bullshit like it's candy?
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Calling Obama a socialist is an insult to all actual socialists. Obama has shown time and time again that he is a capitalist. He shows the symptoms. Sucking up to big business, giving banks golden parachutes, etc. Socialists seek the destruction of the capitalist system. The overthrow of the bourgeoisie by the proletariat. So to call a man who has done all the things a capitalist would do a socialist simply because he shares more progressive capitalist policies than say a Republican would is an absolute farce. Marx would see Obama as a member of the bourgeois, not a proletariat. Even Leninists I've talked to absolutely despise him. They prefer him to Romney, but they still hate his guts.
Another thing, saying that taking religion out of schooling will lead to more socialism is something I think Mr. McCarthy would say.
:rotf:
You still don't get it. Barry uses whoever and whatever can propel him to where he wants to be -- meaning, of course, that Barry's singlemost thought isn't about bailing out the banks, or Bernanke's printing and spending money at unprecedented levels, or even the evil, capitalist pigs that you liberals love to hate.
Barry is all about Barry.
Again, it's the essence of politics.
Take the medicine you've been dished out and call me in the morning. There's hope for you, particularly since you say you're a 2nd Amendment supporter. :cheersmate:
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Calling Obama a socialist is an insult to all actual socialists. Obama has shown time and time again that he is a capitalist. He shows the symptoms. Sucking up to big business, giving banks golden parachutes, etc. Socialists seek the destruction of the capitalist system. The overthrow of the bourgeoisie by the proletariat. So to call a man who has done all the things a capitalist would do a socialist simply because he shares more progressive capitalist policies than say a Republican would is an absolute farce. Marx would see Obama as a member of the bourgeois, not a proletariat. Even Leninists I've talked to absolutely despise him. They prefer him to Romney, but they still hate his guts.
Didn't Hitler allow businesses to operate as long as they "operated" on HIS terms ?
Looks to me that Barry does the same. :-)
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Didn't Hitler allow businesses to operate as long as they "operated" on HIS terms ?
Looks to me that Barry does the same. :-)
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With all the pro-Islam anti-Christianity that seems to be building how long till the left starts trying to build the case that Hitler was jus misunderstood? ::) ::)
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All Hitler wanted was piece...
To Be or Not to Be - Mel Brooks - I Want Peace
I don't want war.
All I want is peace. Peace.
Peace!
A little piece of Poland
A little piece of France
A little piece of Portugal
And Austria perchance
A little slice of Turkey
And all that that entails
Und then a piece of England Scotland
lreland and Wales
A little nip of Norway
A little spot of Greece
A little hunk of Hungary
Oh what a lovely feast
A little bite of Belgium
And now for some dessert
Armenia Albania
And Russia wouldn't hurt
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funny... I'd forgotten about that
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Question for Lex. Do you agree with the president that religious schools are divisive?
Repeating the question because Lex didn't respond to my post earlier.
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Except that all you have to do is look at the U.S. Education system and it's sorry state to know this is true. They do nothing BUT indoctrinate our kids with Socialist doctorine.
And as far as Joe McCarthy Is concerned. History has proven him correct.
So, kids according to you, are reading The Communist Manifesto and repeating them to their teachers word by word, and they're praying to Josef Stalin, Ho Chi Minh, Hoxha, and Mao Zedong?
The ruling class in any socialist society love capitalism, for themselves. The little people can neither be trusted with it, nor can they be allowed to use capitalism to break the chains of socialism their ruling class uses to stay in power.
So in a socialist society there can be capitalism? Wow. I never knew. You know, they're definitely going to use the system they want to destroy.
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So, kids according to you, are reading The Communist Manifesto and repeating them to their teachers word by word, and they're praying to Josef Stalin, Ho Chi Minh, Hoxha, and Mao Zedong?
Well, Howard Zinn, but it's kinda the same thing.
So in a socialist society there can be capitalism? Wow. I never knew. You know, they're definitely going to use the system they want to destroy.
There's always two tiers in socialism--the rulers and the peasants. It's great if you're on top.
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Question for Lex. Do you agree with the president that religious schools are divisive?
You must be hard of hearing.
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So, kids according to you, are reading The Communist Manifesto and repeating them to their teachers word by word, and they're praying to Josef Stalin, Ho Chi Minh, Hoxha, and Mao Zedong?
So in a socialist society there can be capitalism? Wow. I never knew. You know, they're definitely going to use the system they want to destroy.
Jut a few examples;
Marxism in Public Schools
Read more http://hillbuzz.org/the-left-2/marxism-in-public-schools
http://www.restoreokpubliceducation.com/node/37
http://www.cafemom.com/group/99198/forums/read/18364596/Great_example_of_public_school_indoctrination
http://commieblaster.com/news/school_indoctrination.html
Well I could go on and on.....
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You must be hard of hearing.
Sorry I've been busy with other things.
Not as a whole. Though in some areas, it can cause division, which is why I can understand his reasoning.
Jut a few examples;
Marxism in Public Schools
Read more http://hillbuzz.org/the-left-2/marxism-in-public-schools
http://www.restoreokpubliceducation.com/node/37
http://www.cafemom.com/group/99198/forums/read/18364596/Great_example_of_public_school_indoctrination
http://commieblaster.com/news/school_indoctrination.html
Well I could go on and on.....
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Let me take a look here.
First link talks about the Frankfurt School, essentially they're pulling the Cultural Marxist conspiracy theory card, and are basically saying "Oh this happens in all schools!" when in fact it doesn't. It's quite far from that.
Second link talks about how teachers indoctrinate their students. It happens all the time. Conservative teachers also try to influence students (and I've seen this first hand.)
Third link talks about a lesson. Teachers teach the wrong shit all the damn time, pulling strawmans and shit out of their asses. Not to mention it depends on what time period, location, etc. you're talking about.
Commieblaster? Really? I'll comment on the reactionary garbage anyway. It's a picture, and a link to an article to WorldNetDaily. Nobody I know takes that site seriously.
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It never ceases to amaze me how Libs can always explain away what's right in front of them.
Do you have kids in public school right now?
I'm guessing the answer is no.
Because if you did you'd know there IS a socialist,/liberal/progressive indoctrination going on.
It's the reason why so many parents are turning to home schooling and Charter Schools.
Parents want kids that can read and write and balance a checkbook. Not barely literate useful idiots dependent on the government for everything because that's how they've been taught to think all their life.
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Not as a whole. Though in some areas, it can cause division, which is why I can understand his reasoning.
Well then. It is established. You are a liberal AND a religious bigot.
Don't feel bad. Many in the Left have an irrational fear and loathing for people of faith.
So. Follow up question:
Would you outlaw religious schools if you could?
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Do you have kids in public school right now?
I'm guessing the answer is no.
Silly txradioguy. Good Liberals kill their babies. they have to convert our kids in the schools.
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Lex the White Power Stormfronter has been weighed, measured, and found wanting.
Of COURSE he's against Catholic schools. His kind doesn't like Catholics, anyway.
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Beyond the OBVIOUS fact that Obama has no issue with Islamic schools or any divisiveness caused by training up little terrorists in any country, the real problem with religious schools is that they actually teach children. Just ask any community college instructor, they will tell you that far fewer students from religious schools need any type of remedial classes than those that come in from religious schools. Ignorance gives the left 95% of their voters.
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Beyond the OBVIOUS fact that Obama has no issue with Islamic schools or any divisiveness caused by training up little terrorists in any country, the real problem with religious schools is that they actually teach children. Just ask any community college instructor, they will tell you that far fewer students from religious schools need any type of remedial classes than those that come in from religious schools. Ignorance gives the left 95% of their voters.
Great post. :cheersmate:
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So in a socialist society there can be capitalism? Wow. I never knew. You know, they're definitely going to use the system they want to destroy.
^^^This right here, ladies and gentlemen, is proof positive that Lex has not a clue as to what he's talking about.
Lex, just do yourself a favor and read up on any number of despots and learn how they used capitalism to further their socialist and marxist agendas. Then come back and we'll talk.
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Yes Lex it can exist under Socialist/Communist rule.
Look up "Crony capitalism".
China is doing that on a daily basis as we speak.
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Hopefully Lex has been shamed into not showing his face here again. I know I would be, If I had posted the pablum he has posted, and got caught red handed proven wrong. But never discount the ability of the lib to not be humbled humiliated or shamed.
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Hopefully Lex has been shamed into not showing his face here again. I know I would be, If I had posted the pablum he has posted, and got caught red handed proven wrong. But never discount the ability of the lib to not be humbled humiliated or shamed.
Nah he'll be back. He can't resist.
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Liberals have no shame. If they did they would not be liberal.
Shame is the mark of a conscience...only civilized, sane men have a conscience.
and on top of all that, I think Lex is gay too.
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It never ceases to amaze me how Libs can always explain away what's right in front of them.
Do you have kids in public school right now?
I'm guessing the answer is no.
Because if you did you'd know there IS a socialist,/liberal/progressive indoctrination going on.
It's the reason why so many parents are turning to home schooling and Charter Schools.
Parents want kids that can read and write and balance a checkbook. Not barely literate useful idiots dependent on the government for everything because that's how they've been taught to think all their life.
I was hoping he wanted a real discussion..........but apparently NOT.
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Well then. It is established. You are a liberal AND a religious bigot.
Don't feel bad. Many in the Left have an irrational fear and loathing for people of faith.
So. Follow up question:
Would you outlaw religious schools if you could?
Absolutely not. People have the right to choose the education they get. Certainly there needs to be regulations (like saying religious schools can't advocate kids turn into violent zealots and bomb abortion clinics or fly planes into buildings) but other than that so long as they advance intellectually throughout their schooling it's all fine by me.
Liberals have no shame. If they did they would not be liberal.
Shame is the mark of a conscience...only civilized, sane men have a conscience.
and on top of all that, I think Lex is gay too.
What are you talking about? I'm straight as a rainbow...I mean a curvy line...I mean...screw it I'm a flamboyant crossdresser who likes big American sausage.
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You are a coward.
I was hoping that you would take the chance but you did not.
If your fight is with Mr Mann take that up with him,
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You are a coward.
I was hoping that you would take the chance but you did not.
If your fight is with Mr Mann take that up with him,
Coward = liberal = troll.
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Absolutely not. People have the right to choose the education they get. Certainly there needs to be regulations (like saying religious schools can't advocate kids turn into violent zealots and bomb abortion clinics or fly planes into buildings) but other than that so long as they advance intellectually throughout their schooling it's all fine by me.
Just on the odd chance that Lex will back up this outrageous statement, I'm calling him on it.
Specifically, Lex, what religious school advocated that kids turn into violent zealots and then bomb abortion clinics? Or fly a plane into a building?
Credible sources only, Lex. None of that Wiki crap.
I'll be patiently waiting while you put on your makeup, adjust your bra, and pull the thong out from your ass crack.
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Just on the odd chance that Lex will back up this outrageous statement, I'm calling him on it.
Specifically, Lex, what religious school advocated that kids turn into violent zealots and then bomb abortion clinics? Or fly a plane into a building?
Credible sources only, Lex. None of that Wiki crap.
I'll be patiently waiting while you put on your makeup, adjust your bra, and pull the thong out from your ass crack.
I'm not saying that religious schools do that. I'm just using that as an example of what should be prohibited in religious schools.
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I'm not saying that religious schools do that. I'm just using that as an example of what should be prohibited in religious schools.
Of course you are. why, specifically, did you select those two "examples".
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I'm not saying that religious schools do that. I'm just using that as an example of what should be prohibited in religious schools.
You certainly insinuated it. Now you're back peddling.
If you're gonna toss out a firebomb like that at least have the stones to defend it or back it up.
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You certainly insinuated it. Now you're back peddling.
If you're gonna toss out a firebomb like that at least have the stones to defend it or back it up.
Or retract...it, with an apology. A good thorough apology. The type of apology libs know nothing about.
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I'm not saying that religious schools do that. I'm just using that as an example of what should be prohibited in religious schools.
Lex, you've just had your ass handed to you...
*sigh*
...Again.
Put up or shut up. It's real simple. Even libs know how the game is played and, I'm sure, you're no exception.