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Title: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2013, 02:06:27 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH6fwFvCUAA-PWb.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 02:09:09 PM
Damn! :argh: :mad:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 02:09:54 PM
That is a lot of blood
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2013, 02:12:08 PM
This is horrible. Terrorism?
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2013, 02:13:11 PM
This is horrible. Terrorism?

No idea, literally unfolding now.
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Post by: DLR Pyro on April 15, 2013, 02:15:14 PM
My wife is back there with her sister in law who ran in the race. She heard the explosions but was not nearby thank God
Title: Re: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 02:16:22 PM
My wife is back there with her sister in law who ran in the race. She heard the explosions but was not nearby thank God

Lord have mercy!
Title: Re: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: chitownchica on April 15, 2013, 02:16:54 PM
My wife is back there with her sister in law who ran in the race. She heard the explosions but was not nearby thank God

Thank God your wife is ok. Do you know about her SIL?

I'm praying for the  people affected by this. I'm watching the news and am horrified!










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Post by: DLR Pyro on April 15, 2013, 02:18:15 PM
Thank God your wife is ok. Do you know about her SIL?

I'm praying for the  people affected by this. I'm watching the news and am horrified!
they are all together. She had already finished her race. I told her to stay away from crowds and go back to the hotel
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Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 02:19:00 PM
they are all together. She had already finished her race. I told her to stay away from crowds and go back to the hotel

two explosions, two different hotels, 15 seconds apart
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2013, 02:20:00 PM
Not a lot of damage to buildings other than windows blown out.  

two explosions, two different hotels, 15 seconds apart


Sounds like coordinated suicide bombers.

ETA:  It's Patriot's Day. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriots%27_Day
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Post by: IassaFTots on April 15, 2013, 02:20:59 PM
they are all together. She had already finished her race. I told her to stay away from crowds and go back to the hotel

Oh wow.  I hope they stay safe.
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Post by: J P Sousa on April 15, 2013, 02:21:28 PM
two explosions, two different hotels, 15 seconds apart


That sounds like Al Qaeda
.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 02:21:53 PM
Not a lot of damage to buildings other than windows blown out.  

Sounds like coordinated suicide bombers.

ETA:  It's Patriot's Day. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriots%27_Day

IMO two grenades or home made explosives.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: wasp69 on April 15, 2013, 02:22:33 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH6fwFvCUAA-PWb.jpg:large)

This is the kind of thing that happens when you have gutless filth in the White House.  

God be with those who are injured, and God help those who are responsible.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 02:22:40 PM
I don't know why but my first thought was OCW
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Post by: chitownchica on April 15, 2013, 02:23:57 PM
they are all together. She had already finished her race. I told her to stay away from crowds and go back to the hotel

Thanks for the update. I'm so glad to hear that they weren't in the middle of it.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: zeitgeist on April 15, 2013, 02:24:25 PM
Not a lot of damage to buildings other than windows blown out.  

Sounds like coordinated suicide bombers.

ETA:  It's Patriot's Day. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriots%27_Day
First explosion then second to get the first responders would fit the pattern.
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Post by: wasp69 on April 15, 2013, 02:25:14 PM
That sounds like Al Qaeda

Can't be, Bainsbane's president said they were dead and GM was fine.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2013, 02:26:14 PM
First explosion then second to get the first responders would fit the pattern.

The second explosion happened within seconds it sounds like.  Too soon for it to fit that MO.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: wasp69 on April 15, 2013, 02:26:30 PM
I don't know why but my first thought was OCW

OCW?
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2013, 02:27:31 PM
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Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin 14s
#bostonmarathon ==>RT @katz Boston scanner: "EMS is reporting another device" in front of Mandarin Hotel

Live stream here.  http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive/
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 02:30:55 PM
Live stream here too:

http://www.bloomberg.com/live-stream/

Drudge is reporting casualties with missing limbs.

Dear God.  :thatsright:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 02:31:30 PM
3 dead so far :bawl:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: wasp69 on April 15, 2013, 02:32:11 PM
Live stream here too:

http://www.bloomberg.com/live-stream/

Drudge is reporting casualties with missing limbs.

Dear God.  :thatsright:

Was only a matter of time, now it's just a question of who suited up and did the deed.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Dori on April 15, 2013, 02:32:30 PM
This is horrible.  So far I've heard of 3 deaths, and people who have had limbs blown off.  There is also a call out for all bomb squad people to report to the area.

Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on April 15, 2013, 02:34:07 PM
I just put it in the Shout Box.  Damn.

I dunno about you, but I'd be checking jihadist websites if I were the FBI.
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Post by: Dori on April 15, 2013, 02:37:12 PM
they are all together. She had already finished her race. I told her to stay away from crowds and go back to the hotel

Tell her to stay away from trash cans.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on April 15, 2013, 02:37:20 PM
This is horrible. Terrorism?

The media will blame the Tea Party for days, and after it's been conclusively proven to be some liberal nutcase or Al Qaeda, the story will be quickly buried, never to be heard from again.
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Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 02:39:19 PM
Tell her to stay away from trash cans.

I wouldn't even go to the hotel.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 02:39:55 PM
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/bwTYCSX1dNj61XnEAsUfAg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zMjA7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/theatlanticwire/Explosion_at_Boston_Marathon_Finish-2fd8d8318521ce70751545fa0e981fd2)

look at the fire  :(
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 02:40:48 PM
MSM blames Conservatives in 4...3...2...
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 02:43:54 PM
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/bwTYCSX1dNj61XnEAsUfAg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zMjA7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/theatlanticwire/Explosion_at_Boston_Marathon_Finish-2fd8d8318521ce70751545fa0e981fd2)

look at the fire  :(

I amend my first thought...that's not a grenade.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 02:45:28 PM
Bloomberg just reported that "numerous secondary devices" have been found.

 :argh:  :censored:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Dori on April 15, 2013, 02:47:51 PM
Now I'm hearing there were two bombs that went off about 5 sec apart on each side of the street.  I am also hearing that eye witnessess say they seem to have come from a trash can and that ball bearings were part of the debris blowing out of them.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: chitownchica on April 15, 2013, 02:49:24 PM
I just spoke with colleagues in Boston. One's husband was at a Red Sox game and was going to the finish line of the marathon. He was on public transportation, but officials made everyone get off.

This is awful and scary. 
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2013, 02:49:45 PM
One person   claimed to have found a "shotgun pellet" in  his jacket pocket. More like a small ball bearing since that is one of the choices for IEDs.  Will any nails be found?
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on April 15, 2013, 02:50:31 PM
One person   claimed to have found a "shotgun pellet" in  his jacket pocket. More like a small ball bearing since that is one of the choices for IEDs.  Will any nails be found?

I think that's a given.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 02:53:28 PM
12 confirmed dead
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2013, 02:54:13 PM
12 confirmed dead

I have not heard 12 people killed yet. At least 60 people injured.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2309545/Boston-Marathon-explosion-Dozens-reported-injured-device-goes-near-finish-line.html
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Dori on April 15, 2013, 02:54:58 PM
Now they are reporting that no cell phone use to be allowed. Guess they could trigger more explosions.  

ER at Mass general reporting 10 patients with amputations.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2013, 02:56:53 PM
911 Operator
https://twitter.com/911BUFF

Quote
911 Operator @911BUFF 4m

BOSTON: A CONTROLED BOMB JUST DETONATED BY BOMB SQUAD. WITNESS; WINDOWS BLOWN, BLOOD EVERYWHERE, PEOPLE CRYING AND RUNNIG'. #911BUFF

Live Tweeter feed.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2013, 02:58:16 PM
Live blog: Explosions in Copley Square
http://live.boston.com/Event/Live_blog_Explosion_in_Copley_Square
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: miskie on April 15, 2013, 02:59:37 PM
This is terrible news - At this point everybody I know is safe and accounted for. But there could be others that Im not thinking of at the moment :(  

I'm sure Coakley and Obama will find some way to make it either 'not terrorism' and/or blame the sequester.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 03:01:12 PM
Well...this should put to rest the gun debate for awhile.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Revolution on April 15, 2013, 03:02:53 PM
I am nauseated to hear of this. I flipped on the TV, and my mouth dropped. The anger I had on 9/11, and the weeks following is bubbling back to the surface rapidly. :mad:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 03:03:05 PM
Well...this should put to rest the gun debate for awhile.

I noticed Obama's tax rate went off the front of the news page
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Post by: Ralph Wiggum on April 15, 2013, 03:03:30 PM
Well...this should put to rest the gun debate for awhile.

True.

This whole thing is scary & weird.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
children with severe burns  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: 67 Rover on April 15, 2013, 03:04:11 PM
Well...this should put to rest the gun debate for awhile.

Did you forget the sarcasm tag?  I see this event accelerating their agenda.

Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Revolution on April 15, 2013, 03:04:38 PM
children with severe burns  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:

:puke:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 15, 2013, 03:06:05 PM

I'm sure Coakley and Obama will find some way to make it either 'not terrorism' and/or blame the sequester.
my money is on the sequester getting the lion share of blame
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Celtic Rose on April 15, 2013, 03:07:02 PM
Absolutely horrifying  :bawl:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 03:07:25 PM
I just can't believe how unsafe America is now.  What am I leaving my children?  If the libs have their way my kids will not have the right to defend themselves from these killers.  :(
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 03:08:08 PM
Did you forget the sarcasm tag?  I see this event accelerating their agenda.



Nope.  I can see this causing a groundswell of people telling their elected congress critter that if they vote for this crap they won't have a job next year.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: 67 Rover on April 15, 2013, 03:08:51 PM
My thoughts are this will serve as a distraction so that the jug eared kenyon can get anything passed including gun grabber bills in the name of public safety.

EDITED to add time will show if they will let a crisis like this go to waste.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: wasp69 on April 15, 2013, 03:09:39 PM
My thoughts are this will serve as a distraction so that the jug eared kenyon can get anything passed including gun grabber bills passed in the name of public safety.

Never let a crisis go to waste and all of that...
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 03:10:43 PM
My thoughts are this will serve as a distraction so that the jug eared kenyon can get anything passed including gun grabber bills in the name of public safety.

Isn't it odd how this shit keeps happening?  How he is able to use emotion each time to pass this shit?  Just seems really odd to me.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2013, 03:12:03 PM
Nadin is on the case.

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nadinbrzezinski ‏@nadinbrzezinski 2m
MSNBC has spoken to officials on background, possibly EID. To emphasize this is very early in the investigation. All this is extremely early

Quote
nadinbrzezinski ‏@nadinbrzezinski 3m
As a former EMS worker and currently reporter will take at least two hours for any definite information. Will not speculate

Isn't it odd how this shit keeps happening?  How he is able to use emotion each time to pass this shit?  Just seems really odd to me.

It's almost like he plans it out.

Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 03:13:51 PM
EID? :thatsright:

These terrorists are cowards.  This shit pisses me off.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: ColonelCarrots on April 15, 2013, 03:16:16 PM
Al Qaida or possibly N.Korea loyalists?
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 03:17:34 PM
Esquire Mag Blames “Patriots Day” Supporters for the Boston Bomb Blasts (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/awful-esquire-mag-blames-patriots-day-supporters-for-the-boston-bomb-blasts/)
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: 67 Rover on April 15, 2013, 03:19:10 PM
Esquire Mag Blames “Patriots Day” Supporters for the Boston Bomb Blasts (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/awful-esquire-mag-blames-patriots-day-supporters-for-the-boston-bomb-blasts/)


Well that certainly was quick.  I expected to hear it from Chris Matthews first.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 03:19:15 PM
Esquire Mag Blames “Patriots Day” Supporters for the Boston Bomb Blasts (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/awful-esquire-mag-blames-patriots-day-supporters-for-the-boston-bomb-blasts/)

I don't care who it is, they deserve no trial, just a bullet in the back of the head.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 03:19:56 PM
EOD has found two more devices and they are dismantling them now.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 03:20:20 PM
I don't care who it is, they deserve no trial, just a bullet in the back of the head.

QFT.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 03:20:45 PM
(http://2-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/533x800xesquire-bomb.png.pagespeed.ic.3ie4wWCB0-.jpg)

wow, let's not blame the foreigners/terrorists yet!  let's blame Americans!
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Celtic Rose on April 15, 2013, 03:21:17 PM
Police scanners are apparently reporting more possible bombs at JFK Library and the Mandarin Hotel

Link (http://www.latintimes.com/articles/2796/20130415/boston-marathon-explosions-more-incendiary-devices-discovered.htm)
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Revolution on April 15, 2013, 03:22:16 PM
Nadin is on the case.

It's almost like he plans it out.



With this event, I wouldn't be surprised if the bald dwarf puts DU on DefCon mode all by herself with all the backlash, and nasty comments hurled her way.

I wonder if Obama will call THIS event "workplace violence?"
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 03:23:03 PM
Police scanners are apparently reporting more possible bombs at JFK Library and the Mandarin Hotel

Link (http://www.latintimes.com/articles/2796/20130415/boston-marathon-explosions-more-incendiary-devices-discovered.htm)

Picture at the link via gateway Pundit shows what looks like a fire at the Library.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/breaking-fire-at-jfk-library-in-boston/
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 03:23:39 PM
Where is the explosion center with all this blood?  is that from people walking around after the explosion?

(http://images.latintimes.com/data/images/full/3025/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: GOP Congress on April 15, 2013, 03:25:04 PM
And of course, all eyes are now off the gun debate and crucial immigration voting coming up this and next week...
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2013, 03:26:33 PM
(http://2-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/533x800xesquire-bomb.png.pagespeed.ic.3ie4wWCB0-.jpg)

wow, let's not blame the foreigners/terrorists yet!  let's blame Americans!

I love their hypocrisy.  Don't jump to conclusions, but then they jump on the right wing with both feet.

With this event, I wouldn't be surprised if the bald dwarf puts DU on DefCon mode all by herself with all the backlash, and nasty comments hurled her way.

I wonder if Obama will call THIS event "workplace violence?"

Workplace violence?  No he'll consider this terrorism since some of his Kenyan brothers were in the race.
 
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 03:26:53 PM
Where is the explosion center with all this blood?  is that from people walking around after the explosion?

(http://images.latintimes.com/data/images/full/3025/image.jpg)

Looks like almost right in the center of that pic.  No that's not from people walking around.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: wasp69 on April 15, 2013, 03:27:09 PM
Does anyone else notice that it seems to be the Northeastern, blue shitholes that get targeted most frequently?
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: USA4ME on April 15, 2013, 03:27:53 PM
Isn't this where the LW kooks, if events like this take the publics eye off what they consider to be important, usually yell "Reichstag Fire!!"?

.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 03:28:36 PM
Does anyone else notice that it seems to be the Northeastern, blue shitholes that get targeted most frequently?

Oh you mean those giant gun free Sanctuary Cities?
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Airwolf on April 15, 2013, 03:30:31 PM
Nadin is on the case.

It's almost like he plans it out.



Can't have facts getting in the way of the kruchy newz from the crazy bald dwarf. She wouldn't know shit if she stepped in it .
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: wasp69 on April 15, 2013, 03:31:56 PM
Oh you mean those giant gun free Sanctuary Cities?

Those would be the ones.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Tucker on April 15, 2013, 03:32:04 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zM6pYx-RV30/Suc_u7s7JfI/AAAAAAAAAC4/RhtGgNmcIP0/s320/speak-no-evil_new.jpg)

I'm too cynical to say anything at the moment.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 03:33:28 PM
It's all politics to these monsters...

Kristof Blames Boston Attack on Senate GOP Blocking ATF Director (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/04/15/Kristof-Republicans-ATF)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/nkristoff_zps91343c48.png) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/kayaktn/media/nkristoff_zps91343c48.png.html)
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on April 15, 2013, 03:34:26 PM
I see this event accelerating their agenda.

Oh yeah.  I think you can bet on it.  I say, watch for evidence of a "Reichstag Fire" moment.  There are already false implications of anti-Tax group by that scumbag Blitzer.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on April 15, 2013, 03:35:28 PM
It's all politics to these monsters...

Kristof Blames Boston Attack on Senate GOP Blocking ATF Director (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/04/15/Kristof-Republicans-ATF)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/nkristoff_zps91343c48.png) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/kayaktn/media/nkristoff_zps91343c48.png.html)


What a load of crap.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 03:36:29 PM
It's all politics to these monsters...

I want to know how Mr. Kristoff believes an ATF Director could have prevented this.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 15, 2013, 03:38:02 PM
My money is on the religion of pieces.....damn savages.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: NHSparky on April 15, 2013, 03:38:11 PM
I've about ****ing had it with these newspricks standing on not-yet-cold bodies of the victims of a senseless act of violence and blaming someone/something they don't like for the simple sake of political points.

And almost inevitably, it comes back to bite them in the ass.  And I hope that once again, it does it again, if only to give them pause to shut them the **** up for two seconds before flapping their miserable cocksuckers.

On another note, a co-worker of mine was with his family and two children (both under 4) at the Sox game.  No idea where they parked or if they were going down Boylston after the game.  No idea if he's okay, and I've stayed at the Fairmont Copley Plaza Hotel a while back.  To think that one street away is where that bomb went off.

Memo to DUers and other assorted grave dancers--DON'T.  Just. ****ing. DON'T.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Revolution on April 15, 2013, 03:38:43 PM
Hugabear is vile scum. Although, all is usual at DU. Tragedy happens, they blame the other side, then it happens to be their side, or terrorists. Then, they act as if nothing happened. SLIME! (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022678246)
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2013, 03:39:43 PM
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Authorities have a identified a suspect, who is currently being guarded in a Boston hospital with shrapnel wounds.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/two_explosions_at_boston_marathon_iMR0LCkcwASg0RQfVsH1yI
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 15, 2013, 03:40:31 PM
It's all politics to these monsters...

Kristof Blames Boston Attack on Senate GOP Blocking ATF Director (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/04/15/Kristof-Republicans-ATF)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/nkristoff_zps91343c48.png) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/kayaktn/media/nkristoff_zps91343c48.png.html)

phucktard opportunist....

...on another note, I just got a call from my wife and they are safe and in their hotel in Dedham, Ma which is about 20 miles from downtown Boston so they should be out of harms way.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: FlaGator on April 15, 2013, 03:40:43 PM
There are so many potential suspects that a wise person might consider keeping their speculation under wraps. However, the left cannot normally be accused of wise behavior.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2013, 03:41:01 PM
One thing the MSM hasn't thought of yet that I'm gonna say FOR them...


The new SecState is from where???


He's just been over glad handing where???

Sounds to me like the Jihadists just sent him a message.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Dori on April 15, 2013, 03:41:37 PM
Isn't this where the LW kooks, if events like this take the publics eye off what they consider to be important, usually yell "Reichstag Fire!!"?

Don't you be gettin' my black helicopters started.  
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Tucker on April 15, 2013, 03:43:22 PM
While there are some good, decent people in MA, for the most part they choose to be defenseless. They want guns banned so they can feel safe and secure.

How's that working out?

In the most liberal area in the country. 2/3rds of the people in Boston were against the Revolutionary War. They have passed their hatred of the US down from generation to generation.



Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: 67 Rover on April 15, 2013, 03:51:15 PM
Explosion confirmed at JFK library.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2013, 03:53:20 PM
Authorities ID a suspect in marathon bombings - he is being guarded in Boston hospital

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Authorities have confirmed to The Post that they have identified a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing.

The suspect — a Saudi national who suffered shrapnel wounds in today's blast — is currently being guarded in a Boston hospital.

A law enforcement source confirmed to The Post that 12 people were killed and nearly 50 were injured in today's blast.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/authorities_under_suspect_guard_y2m8cJO29uC2PDGIjYBalO
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: 67 Rover on April 15, 2013, 04:00:21 PM
How long before the left demands impeachment because Hussein missed all but one PDB,  where I am sure it was specifically laid out that Al Queida wants to attack us.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: wasp69 on April 15, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
In the most liberal area in the country. 2/3rds of the people in Boston were against the Revolutionary War. They have passed their hatred of the US down from generation to generation.

Don't forget they were also openly trading with Great Britain during the War of 1812.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Dori on April 15, 2013, 04:02:42 PM
Authorities ID a suspect in marathon bombings - he is being guarded in Boston hospital
 http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/authorities_under_suspect_guard_y2m8cJO29uC2PDGIjYBalO

Didn't Homeland Insecurity just give the Saudi's trusted traveler status?   :mad:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 04:05:11 PM
Didn't Homeland Insecurity just give the Saudi's trusted traveler status?   :mad:
Big Sis said we can trust them.  Wink, wink.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: ColonelCarrots on April 15, 2013, 04:05:59 PM
I hope our missionary to Boston is ok and wasn't there.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: 67 Rover on April 15, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
$10 says that we will hear the word sequestor in tonights speech after Hussein gets his ass off of the links.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: YupItsMe on April 15, 2013, 04:09:12 PM
MSM blames Conservatives in 4...3...2...

  Exactly my thought.  What's Chrissie Matthews have to say, Tea Party or Racists?
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: CG6468 on April 15, 2013, 04:11:25 PM
Too bad they took the son of a bitch alive. They shoulda just saved everyone a lot of money and just popped him.

Now we'll have endless motions, testimony and court trials, with all the wailing from muzzies and libs everywhere.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: J P Sousa on April 15, 2013, 04:13:05 PM
Too bad they took the son of a bitch alive. They shoulda just saved everyone a lot of money and just popped him.

Now we'll have endless motions, testimony and court trials, with all the wailing from muzzies and libs everywhere.

And celebrities protesting for release.
.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: CG6468 on April 15, 2013, 04:17:02 PM
And celebrities protesting for release.
.

From Matthews and all the other creeps: Complaining and protests will begin in 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 ------
Title: Re: Re: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 15, 2013, 04:17:56 PM
And celebrities protesting for release....
.
...while demanding for the arrest of George Bush and Dick Cheney....
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 15, 2013, 04:25:50 PM
hasn't Obama try to be like Bush and say there were no attacks on his watch?
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Tucker on April 15, 2013, 04:30:07 PM
hasn't Obama try to be like Bush and say there were no attacks on his watch?

It's Bush's fault.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Dori on April 15, 2013, 04:30:41 PM
Live blogging at the Boston Globe

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White van stopped on parade ground in Boston Common. Driver on ground next to vehicle. Area being cleared.

http://live.boston.com/Event/Live_blog_Explosion_in_Copley_Square
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Freeper on April 15, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
This is horrible.

Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2013, 04:37:50 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/two_explosions_at_boston_marathon_iMR0LCkcwASg0RQfVsH1yI

From the link.

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Authorities have a identified a suspect, a Saudi national, who is currently being guarded in a Boston hospital with shrapnel wounds.

Authorities ID suspect as Saudi national in marathon bombings, under guard at Boston hospital
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/authorities_under_suspect_guard_y2m8cJO29uC2PDGIjYBalO

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Investigators have a suspect — a Saudi Arabian national — in the horrific Boston Marathon bombings, The Post has learned.

Law enforcement sources said the 20-year-old suspect was under guard at an undisclosed Boston hospital.

Fox News reported that the suspect suffered severe burns.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Dori on April 15, 2013, 04:38:22 PM
WCVB reports SWAT team now at Brigham and Women's, (hospital) with automatic weapons

Also, police have a guy in handcuffs at the Boston Commons

(This is all coming from the Boston Globe)

Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Tucker on April 15, 2013, 04:40:10 PM
Boston PD deny it.

Sorry. Link is from the DUmp.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/boston-police-no-arrests-have-been-made-in

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The New York Post reported that a "Saudi national who suffered shrapnel wounds in today's blast" has been identified as "a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing." The Boston PD spokesperson did not confirm that report.

"Honestly, I don't know where they're getting their information from, but it didn't come from us," said the spokesperson.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Freeper on April 15, 2013, 04:42:52 PM
Boston PD deny it.

Sorry. Link is from the DUmp.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/boston-police-no-arrests-have-been-made-in


There's no telling what is true and what isn't. Every media outlet is rushing to be first so they aren't fact checking anything.

Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Tucker on April 15, 2013, 04:45:09 PM
There's no telling what is true and what isn't. Every media outlet is rushing to be first so they aren't fact checking anything.



Oh I agree.

It's not going to get any better.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Freeper on April 15, 2013, 04:48:23 PM
Oh I agree.

It's not going to get any better.

Nope not till the smoke clears, and even then the DUmmies will still claim that the Tea Party did this.

Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: NHSparky on April 15, 2013, 05:02:24 PM
There's no telling what is true and what isn't. Every media outlet is rushing to be first so they aren't fact checking anything.



IOW, they're about as credible as nads covering a cat show.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Revolution on April 15, 2013, 05:04:06 PM
I've got a bad feeling today isn't the end of the terror attacks for some reason. This whole new era just feels...wrong, and I think more are going to suffer on our soil at the hands of extremists, unfortunately.

I just have a bad feeling.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: IassaFTots on April 15, 2013, 05:07:51 PM
I hope our missionary to Boston is ok and wasn't there.

Me too CC.  Prayers up for your missionary friend.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 05:08:36 PM
We have an office on Allied Drive in Dedham... I know a couple of guys that work over there.  I haven't seen them online all day.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 05:19:24 PM
Another left-wing idiot with a big mouth and a tiny head.

CNN: Wolf Blitzer Says Patriot’s Day Is Potentially a Factor in Boston Marathon Explosions (Video) (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/cnn-wolf-blitzer-says-patriots-day-is-potentially-a-factor-in-boston-marathon-explosions-video/)
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2013, 05:25:42 PM
Another left-wing idiot with a big mouth and a tiny head.

CNN: Wolf Blitzer Says Patriot’s Day Is Potentially a Factor in Boston Marathon Explosions (Video) (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/cnn-wolf-blitzer-says-patriots-day-is-potentially-a-factor-in-boston-marathon-explosions-video/)

They need to STFU.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: NHSparky on April 15, 2013, 05:28:42 PM
He needs to be held to account.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: miskie on April 15, 2013, 05:36:13 PM
Another left-wing idiot with a big mouth and a tiny head.

CNN: Wolf Blitzer Says Patriot’s Day Is Potentially a Factor in Boston Marathon Explosions (Video) (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/cnn-wolf-blitzer-says-patriots-day-is-potentially-a-factor-in-boston-marathon-explosions-video/)

Patriot's day has nothing to do with it -

The Boston Marathon is a major international event with virtually no security because of Massachusetts laws - with the added bonus of media perched nearby from around the world. Its a target rich environment with the kind of exposure a terrorist network couldn't get anywhere else.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: dixierose on April 15, 2013, 05:36:44 PM
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Luke Russert @LukeRussert
NBC News: A law enforcement official says one of the two people killed in today's explosions was 8 years old.

 :bawl:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 15, 2013, 05:47:42 PM
Well, I've heard Tim McVeigh's name mentioned several times during the media coverage.....CBS one time and the others I don't remember which station they were on. They want it so bad.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2013, 05:48:34 PM
Well, I've heard Tim McVeigh's name mentioned several times during the media coverage.....CBS one time and the others I don't remember which station they were on. They want it so bad.

If I recall, Timothy McVeigh was an Agnostic and sympathized with a group that is not known to be right wing, Branch Davidian.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2013, 05:54:48 PM
Jordan Muslim extremist 'happy' over Boston bombing
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/15/jordan-muslim-extremist-happy-over-boston-bombing/

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AMMAN, Jordan –  The head of an extremist Jordanian Muslim Salafi group says he's "happy to see the horror in America" after the explosions in Boston.

"American blood isn't more precious than Muslim blood," said Mohammad al-Chalabi, who was convicted in an al-Qaida-linked plot to attack U.S. and other Western diplomatic missions in Jordan in 2003.

"Let the Americans feel the pain we endured by their armies occupying Iraq and Afghanistan and killing our people there," he said early Tuesday.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........................
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 15, 2013, 05:58:57 PM
If I recall, Timothy McVeigh was an Agnostic and sympathized with a group that is not known to be right wing, Branch Davidian.

Personally, I think he was a Muslim convert. He had a lot of contact with Muslim terrorist group in the Phillipines.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2013, 06:05:10 PM
Personally, I think he was a Muslim convert. He had a lot of contact with Muslim terrorist group in the Phillipines.

Same with Terry Nichols. He had connection with Abu Sayyaf.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Lacarnut on April 15, 2013, 06:41:37 PM
While there are some good, decent people in MA, for the most part they choose to be defenseless. They want guns banned so they can feel safe and secure.

How's that working out?

In the most liberal area in the country. 2/3rds of the people in Boston were against the Revolutionary War. They have passed their hatred of the US down from generation to generation.

That is one state I have not visited and don't plan to. I am too outspoken to listen to their crap.

Prayers for those killed and injured.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2013, 06:47:20 PM
Stupid is as stupid does.  Cynthia McKinney implicates Boston PD.

Quote
Cynthia McKinney
‏@cynthiamckinney
The pattern is becoming too, too familiar.  So, Boston cops were having a "bomb squad drill" on the same day as..
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Norseman on April 15, 2013, 06:50:23 PM
I bet Obamas got the Whithouse full of His top spinners trying to figure out how to spin this one
according to him the war on terror was over
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2013, 07:12:51 PM
Stupid is as stupid does.  Cynthia McKinney implicates Boston PD.


Quote
Cynthia McKinney
‏@cynthiamckinney
The pattern is becoming too, too familiar.  So, Boston cops were having a "bomb squad drill" on the same day as..

 :???: :wtf2:  :mental:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 07:18:57 PM
Another stupid asshole with more time than brains opens his pie-hole: Michael Moore puts two and two together after Boston Marathon bombing (http://twitchy.com/2013/04/15/michael-moore-puts-two-and-two-together-after-boston-marathon-bombing/)

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Michael Moore  @MMFlint

Tax Day. Patriots Day.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2013, 07:37:40 PM
Possibly another 5 undetonated devices found. 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323346304578424950102614148.html

This isn't sounding like a "lone wolf" action.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 07:45:58 PM
White House believes deadly Boston Marathon bombing act of terror (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/15/explosion-reported-near-finish-line-boston-marathon-spokesman-says)

******* geniuses. ::)
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2013, 07:58:49 PM
Possibly another 5 undetonated devices found. 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323346304578424950102614148.html

This isn't sounding like a "lone wolf" action.

Looks more like part of an organized group.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 15, 2013, 08:14:09 PM
Quote
Michael Moore  @MMFlint

Tax Day. Patriots Day.
come on fat boy.  don't play with words.  Come out and say what you are thinking.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 15, 2013, 08:15:40 PM
Well, I've heard Tim McVeigh's name mentioned several times during the media coverage.....CBS one time and the others I don't remember which station they were on. They want it so bad.
but no mention of mohammed atta, obl or ksm...
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: longview on April 15, 2013, 08:17:02 PM
We Americans have been pretty fortunate and the fact that we are at war and that others want us dead and destroyed hasn't hit many.  I don't believe any of us are safe from something like this.  Even me, considering the remoteness of where I live.  
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: FlaGator on April 15, 2013, 08:21:17 PM
White House believes deadly Boston Marathon bombing act of terror (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/15/explosion-reported-near-finish-line-boston-marathon-spokesman-says)

******* geniuses. ::)

Hey this is a positive. It took the White House 3 weeks after Benghazi to come to that same conclusion.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 08:21:38 PM
Hey this is a positive. It took the White House 3 weeks after Benghazi to come to that same conclusion.
I'm surprised they didn't blame today on a YouTube video.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: J P Sousa on April 15, 2013, 08:27:57 PM
White House believes deadly Boston Marathon bombing act of terror (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/15/explosion-reported-near-finish-line-boston-marathon-spokesman-says)

******* geniuses. ::)

Well they probably went down the list;

1- work place violence
2- gun violence
3- sequester
4- republicans in congress
5- Bush
6- tsunami  
7- wall street  
8- Eurozone crisis
9- Oil speculators
10- Fox News
11- The Weather
12- ......
.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Freeper on April 15, 2013, 08:32:14 PM
I'm surprised they didn't blame today on a YouTube video.

0bama isn't up for reelection so it doesn't matter if it was terrorism or not to him.

Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: IassaFTots on April 15, 2013, 08:33:52 PM
0bama isn't up for reelection so it doesn't matter if it was terrorism or not to him.



Sorry ass sack of sh!t.  This is not a time for feet on the desk.  Seriously.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 08:34:19 PM
Sorry ass sack of sh!t.  This is not a time for feet on the desk.  Seriously.
Hey, he gave a speech.  What else do you expect from the man?
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Freeper on April 15, 2013, 08:43:30 PM
Sorry ass sack of sh!t.  This is not a time for feet on the desk.  Seriously.

Did he have his feet on the desk when he gave the address? Or are you just commenting on how he disrespects the white house?

This is the same guy who took several days to even mention the Ft Hood "workplace incident" and when he could finally be bothered to, he opened up with a 2 minute shout out to some medicine man.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: IassaFTots on April 15, 2013, 08:56:29 PM
Hey, he gave a speech.  What else do you expect from the man?

So sorry, I forgot.  There for a second I thought I was speaking of our president.  :thatsright:  Oh crap......
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Norseman on April 15, 2013, 09:58:43 PM
We Americans have been pretty fortunate and the fact that we are at war and that others want us dead and destroyed hasn't hit many.  I don't believe any of us are safe from something like this.  Even me, considering the remoteness of where I live.  
We will never be safe as long as our borders are wide open.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Zathras on April 15, 2013, 10:14:46 PM
I bet Obamas got the Whithouse full of His top spinners trying to figure out how to spin this one
according to him the war on terror was over

Which probably includes going on YouTube looking for a video they can blame it on to hide the true reason behind the attack.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: seahorse513 on April 15, 2013, 10:18:50 PM
This is very scarey, as Boston is only 45 minutes away. I keep thinking, is Manchester or Concord next? Quite a few people I know have run the marathon in previous years, 2 That i know of, ran today, one is ok, but the other , we haven't heard. Has anyone heard from Former Lurker??
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 10:23:51 PM
This is very scarey, as Boston is only 45 minutes away. I keep thinking, is Manchester or Concord next? Quite a few people I know have run the marathon in previous years, 2 That i know of, ran today, one is ok, but the other , we haven't heard. Has anyone heard from Former Lurker??
She was here for a few minutes earlier today.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Firekrakka on April 15, 2013, 11:00:44 PM
You know, we've been through this before. Major Nidal Hasan, Benghazi...both radical Islamic terrorism where Americans died. Obozo walked right through those two, apparently unscathed. He was re-elected.

Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Norseman on April 15, 2013, 11:27:01 PM
Which probably includes going on YouTube looking for a video they can blame it on to hide the true reason behind the attack.
Exactly! Has anyone heard how they are spinning it yet?
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 15, 2013, 11:53:48 PM
[youtube=425,350] pYHCCHw_i3g[/youtube]
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2013, 11:59:29 PM
Westboro Baptist Church threatens to picket funerals of those slain at the Boston Marathon
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/130415/westboro-baptist-church-threatens-to-picket-boston-marathon-funerals

Guess who is planning to show up?  :mental: :argh: :bird:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 16, 2013, 02:37:32 AM
Little bit of an update:

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A first responder source confirms to Fox News that five total explosive devices were found in the Boston area, including the two that exploded. Authorities spent the next several hours sweeping the area for additional devices.

A source involved in the investigation tells FoxNews.com police are searching an apartment in the nearby Boston suburb of Revere as part of the investigation into the explosions. The apartment is on the fifth floor of the building.

Investigators were seen leaving the Revere house early Tuesday carrying brown paper bags, plastic trash bags and a duffel bag, according to the Associated Press.

Authorities are guarding a person of interest at a local hospital, according to a New York Post report confirmed by Fox News.

The person, who sources said was 20 years old, had severe burns, but authorities had not determined whether the person was a victim or a perpetrator. Sources say the person of interest is reportedly a Saudi national in the United States on a student visa.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/16/explosion-reported-near-finish-line-boston-marathon-spokesman-says/
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Mike220 on April 16, 2013, 02:39:16 AM
But... Teabaggers...
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 16, 2013, 09:17:56 AM
UPDATED numbers from Boston Marathon: 176 injured, 17 in critical condition, 3 dead
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: seahorse513 on April 16, 2013, 09:56:00 AM
This whole thing is very sad!! It is hitting too close to home for me, as I have enjoyed so many trips to Boston..  I am finding out so many friends were down there. All accounted for!!
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 16, 2013, 10:26:36 AM
UPDATED numbers from Boston Marathon: 176 injured, 17 in critical condition, 3 dead

The death toll has not changed much. The death toll could of been much higher.  :( :bawl:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Tucker on April 16, 2013, 10:35:21 AM
The death toll has not changed much. The death toll could of been much higher.  :( :bawl:

Regardless, the bombing achieved its goal. There's a lot of people out there that will never feel safe in any public setting again. Their bliss-ninny world has exploded (no pun intended).
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 16, 2013, 10:37:26 AM
Plane brought back to gate at Logan Airport
http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/21988916/2013/04/16/plane-brought-back-to-gate-at-logan-airport#ixzz2Qdp3HYxP

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BOSTON (MyFoxBoston.com) – Sources told FOX 25 there was an American Airlines flight that was headed to Chicago. There were two men on that plane – not sitting next to each other – and speaking Arabic.

Some of the comments are stupid.

Quote
Megan Wood McGuigan ·  Top Commenter
If the bomber ends up being a white guy does this mean I get to kick all white men off of a plane because they make me feel 'uncomfortable'?

Quote
Megan Wood McGuigan ·  Top Commenter
voos3434- In America the primary terrorists are of the homegrown variety. Almost every single terrorist attack in the US has been done by white men. Oklahoma City, Atlanta, family planning clinics, courthouses, I could go on. Also, the last time I remembered the IRA was made up of white men and they sure as hell have blown a lot of buildings and people up.
What about animal rights and eco terrorists?

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Megan Wood McGuigan ·  Top Commenter
Rich- You can but you won't win, because Megan is more highly intelligent than you are. It's not apples to oranges. If one group of people are going to be mistreated because of their skin color then ALL people should be treated the same way.
Projection.

Quote
Megan Wood McGuigan ·  Top Commenter
Define the word 'communist'. Go ahead, I dare you.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 16, 2013, 10:38:36 AM
Regardless, the bombing achieved its goal. There's a lot of people out there that will never feel safe in any public setting again. Their bliss-ninny world has exploded (no pun intended).

You are right. Bombings is what I fear the most, not biological, chemical, or nuclear.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: ColonelCarrots on April 16, 2013, 11:16:14 AM
A friend of mine at college is from Boston, and was saying his grandmother was five minutes away from going into surgery when they started bringing in victims from the bombing.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 16, 2013, 12:15:57 PM
The explosives were put in pressure cookers before they were put in the trashcans.

Now for my fellow military folks...YPOC (yellow palm oil container) and pressure cooker IED's are used primarily where?
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 16, 2013, 12:17:29 PM
The explosives were put in pressure cookers before they were put in the trashcans.

Now for my fellow military folks...YPOC (yellow palm oil container) and pressure cooker IED's are used primarily where?

Afghanistan, India, Nepal, and Pakistan
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: txradioguy on April 16, 2013, 12:20:35 PM
Afghanistan, India, Nepal, and Pakistan

Ding! Ding! Ding!
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Flufferlie on April 16, 2013, 01:03:31 PM
^ Just turned on Fox News and they were saying exactly that.
I knew it was an attack. Just knew it deep down in my gut yesterday when it happened.
And so many people keep saying that this hasn't happened to us since 9/11 but.....what was Fort Hood???  Benghazi???
As bad as Boston is, I feel like who ever it was is testing us, to see our reaction...

BTW I have already heard them start to blame the sequester.
Amazing, how they can use the newly dead American citizens for their own political gains.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Firekrakka on April 16, 2013, 01:06:23 PM
But he was just a quiet peaceful Muslim.  :whistling:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2309570/Boston-Marathon-bombing-suspect-Police-raid-home-linked-burned-Saudi-student-acting-suspiciously.html#ixzz2QdrpIp4y
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: J P Sousa on April 16, 2013, 01:20:42 PM
The explosives were put in pressure cookers before they were put in the trashcans.

Now for my fellow military folks...YPOC (yellow palm oil container) and pressure cooker IED's are used primarily where?

Al Qaeda;

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(Naser Jason Abdo)

  On July 27, 2011, the staff of the Guns Galore gunstore in Killeen, Texas near Fort Hood noted that Abdo bought an unusually large amount of smokeless gunpowder,[2] three boxes of shotgun ammunition, and a magazine for a pistol. A clerk notified the Killeen Police Department, who tracked Abdo to the Best Value Inn and Suites.[11][12] (Note: Guns Galore was the store in which Nidal Malik Hasan bought a pistol used in the 2010 Fort Hood shootings.[13])

At Abdo's hotel room, Killeen police found a handgun and the ingredients for an explosive device, including gunpowder, shrapnel and pressure cookers.[7] Also in the room was an article entitled, "Make a bomb in the kitchen of your Mom," from Inspire magazine, the English-language publication of Al Qaeda.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naser_Jason_Abdo

Did someone say.....Muslim ?
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Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Firekrakka on April 16, 2013, 01:49:06 PM
Shhh.... them poor widdle Muswims fear mass hysteria.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-boston-marathon-bombing-muslims-fear-another-hysteria-20130416,0,4139428.story
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Post by: JohnnyReb on April 16, 2013, 01:59:18 PM
Shhh.... them poor widdle Muswims fear mass hysteria.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-boston-marathon-bombing-muslims-fear-another-hysteria-20130416,0,4139428.story

 I'd say it was only fair that they should live in fear just like the unbelievers have to live in fear in Muslim countries.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 16, 2013, 02:01:03 PM
Shhh.... them poor widdle Muswims fear mass hysteria.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-boston-marathon-bombing-muslims-fear-another-hysteria-20130416,0,4139428.story

That is a big difference between the left and the right.  

We want the perpetrators caught regardless of their ideology.  The left just want it to be a right winger and fear the backlash if it's one of theirs.  Of course it is almost always one of theirs, so maybe they have a point.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Dori on April 16, 2013, 04:12:59 PM
Some of the information coming from the FBI.

They are looking for eyewitnesses or film of someone carrying a heavy black bag.  From what they have collected so far is ball bearings, nails and bits of a dark nylon bag or backpack.


I have a question.  Can they find out the phone numbers?  They know the time of the bombs going off.  Can't they data mine their records to get the called from and called to numbers?
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Firekrakka on April 16, 2013, 04:41:22 PM
No they are DESPERATELY trying to find someone who answers to the left's description of a "domestic terrorist." For example, a Tea Partier, a Christian conservative, an anti-"tax the country to death" person.
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Post by: miskie on April 16, 2013, 04:42:09 PM
I have a question.  Can they find out the phone numbers?  They know the time of the bombs going off.  Can't they data mine their records to get the called from and called to numbers?

My past employment experience with AT&T (Sorry - they are now called 'at&t' because its friendlier) tells me yes. The amount of data that can be gleaned from a phone call is stunning.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: A7X_foREVer on April 16, 2013, 04:48:23 PM
^ Just turned on Fox News and they were saying exactly that.
I knew it was an attack. Just knew it deep down in my gut yesterday when it happened.
And so many people keep saying that this hasn't happened to us since 9/11 but.....what was Fort Hood???  Benghazi???
As bad as Boston is, I feel like who ever it was is testing us, to see our reaction...

BTW I have already heard them start to blame the sequester.
Amazing, how they can use the newly dead American citizens for their own political gains.



That was my reaction as I heard about it
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 16, 2013, 04:59:43 PM
My past employment experience with AT&T (Sorry - they are now called 'at&t' because its friendlier) tells me yes. The amount of data that can be gleaned from a phone call is stunning.

I've heard they are trying to pinpoint the time of the blasts and coordinate that with cell tower records. Given how large the area is that is going to take some time to clear all the numbers on record.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: formerlurker on April 16, 2013, 05:26:58 PM
The explosives were put in pressure cookers before they were put in the trashcans.

Now for my fellow military folks...YPOC (yellow palm oil container) and pressure cooker IED's are used primarily where?

That was noted as soon as they made disclosure pressure cookers were used.  

You look at the delay in blasts, and the affects of that (people running toward the location where the second blast occured).   The packing of the duffle bag with nails, etc. for maximum damage.  

This is not two college students pissed off at the government.  

I don't think this is a wait for their reaction type of sample run either.  I think this is how they can attack, and how they will attack going forward.    

Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Firekrakka on April 16, 2013, 06:16:38 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/9998886/Boston-Marathon-bombs-al-Qaedas-Inspire-magazine-taught-pressure-cooker-bomb-making-techniques.html

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Boston Marathon bombs: al-Qaeda's Inspire magazine taught pressure cooker bomb-making techniques

Congress must ban any further sales of pressure cookers! At minimum there needs to be background checks for anyone wanting to buy one of these ASSAULT STYLE COOKING SYSTEMS with a national registry of any owned already. Door to door confiscation if necessary.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Dori on April 16, 2013, 06:30:51 PM
FOX is now showing the before and after pictures of a bag in the exact spot of where the explosion was.

They are showing a twisted pressure cooker too.




Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 16, 2013, 06:33:54 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/9998886/Boston-Marathon-bombs-al-Qaedas-Inspire-magazine-taught-pressure-cooker-bomb-making-techniques.html

Congress must ban any further sales of pressure cookers! At minimum there needs to be background checks for anyone wanting to buy one of these ASSAULT STYLE COOKING SYSTEMS with a national registry of any owned already. Door to door confiscation if necessary.

If it saves just one life, it's worth the effort.....
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Firekrakka on April 16, 2013, 06:37:11 PM
If the investigation turns up proof that this mooslem Abdulrahman Ali Alharbi did the deed, the Islam worshiping Marxist president and his minions will cover it up like a cat covering up shit. We will hear "home grown terrorism" ever 5 seconds.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 17, 2013, 11:44:12 AM
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Boston Runners Were Warned: ‘You’re Going to Die’

“Mike Heiliger, 59, said a woman holding several bags was telling runners who were picking up their pre-race packages in downtown Boston on Saturday (April 13) that they were going to die if they participated in the event,” reports the SquamishChief.com.
infowars (http://www.infowars.com/boston-runners-were-warned-youre-going-to-die/)

Yeah, it's Infowars.  99% of their stuff is either :stoner: or :tinfoil2:. 
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 17, 2013, 12:11:30 PM
First on CNN: Authorities believe they have identified a suspect, source says
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/17/us/boston-blasts/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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(CNN) -- Investigators believe they have identified a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings, a source who has been briefed on the investigation told CNN's John King exclusively.

The breakthrough came from analysis of video from a department store near the site of the second explosion. Video from a Boston television station also contributed to the progress, said the source, who declined to be more specific but called it a significant development.

Earlier, a federal law enforcement source with firsthand knowledge of the investigation told CNN that a lid to a pressure cooker thought to have been used in the bombings had been found on a roof of a building near the scene.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: J P Sousa on April 17, 2013, 01:10:10 PM
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 CNN’s John King reported authorities made a “clear identification” of the suspect and described it as a breakthrough in the investigation.

King reported the footage was analyzed to such a degree that it was possible to discern facial features. King said the individual was described as “dark-skinned” but did not provide additional details because he said it was a sensitive issue.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/17/cnn-officials-believe-they-have-identified-boston-bomb-suspect/
  

Uh, oh, dark skinned ? The DUmp will be furious......they wanted it to be a WHITE man.
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Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Revolution on April 17, 2013, 01:13:48 PM
They may not even comment on it at all. As if 4/15/13 never even happened.  :rant:
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Tucker on April 17, 2013, 01:16:18 PM
Uh, oh, dark skinned ? The DUmp will be furious......they wanted it to be a WHITE man.
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You have to be careful when giving out the description.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 17, 2013, 01:17:01 PM
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King reported the footage was analyzed to such a degree that it was possible to discern facial features. King said the individual was described as “dark-skinned” but did not provide additional details because he said it was a sensitive issue.

Of course this would not be a sensitive issue if the individual was described as white skinned and details galore would be provided to try to link the suspect to the NRA, Christianity, the GOP and any other conservative group.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Chris_ on April 17, 2013, 01:17:23 PM
Uh, oh, dark skinned ? The DUmp will be furious......they wanted it to be a WHITE man.
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If we took Howard Dean's words as gospel, we know he isn't a Republican.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 17, 2013, 02:36:40 PM
Moakley Federal Courthouse Evacuated. Live footage from WCVB-TV.
http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Gina on April 17, 2013, 02:47:44 PM
 

I don't think this is a wait for their reaction type of sample run either.  I think this is how they can attack, and how they will attack going forward.    



I think we are going to be having a bunch of these now.  Best way to invoke fear and tear up an economy is to attack random places (Walmart, fair, Mall) and scare people into going out shopping.  IMO.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: seahorse513 on April 17, 2013, 02:49:43 PM
I think we are going to be having a bunch of these now.  Best way to invoke fear and tear up an economy is to attack random places (Walmart, fair, Mall) and scare people into going out shopping.  IMO.
Well, it is NOT going to stop me. I refuse to live my life in fear!!
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 17, 2013, 02:54:47 PM
Moakley Federal Courthouse Evacuated. Live footage from WCVB-TV.
http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon

US Marshals: Bomb threat at courthouse.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 17, 2013, 03:01:41 PM
I think we are going to be having a bunch of these now.  Best way to invoke fear and tear up an economy is to attack random places (Walmart, fair, Mall) and scare people into going out shopping.  IMO.

I think if there was a widespread network in the US and they weren't afraid suicide acts, then they could easily make random attacks across the country.  They wouldn't need high fatality counts to shut the country down.

A few dozen well timed and coordinated attacks in small and large towns would spread terror.
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Post by: Gina on April 17, 2013, 03:08:42 PM
I think if there was a widespread network in the US and they weren't afraid suicide acts, then they could easily make random attacks across the country.  They wouldn't need high fatality counts to shut the country down.

A few dozen well timed and coordinated attacks in small and large towns would spread terror.

I think they have been "sleeping".  There is no way we don't have the "sleeper cells" with our lax borders.  They have lost their "effect" over there and now are waking up here to start it up. 
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: A7X_foREVer on April 17, 2013, 03:11:26 PM
I think that it is going to just get worse instead of better
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: IassaFTots on April 17, 2013, 03:15:33 PM
I think that it is going to just get worse instead of better

I think you are right.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: A7X_foREVer on April 17, 2013, 03:20:51 PM
I think you are right.

I pray that we do not ever have to face another 9/11
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: thundley4 on April 17, 2013, 03:22:11 PM
I pray that we do not ever have to face another 9/11


A lot of widespread smaller attacks could do as much damage to the American psyche as one large attack.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 17, 2013, 03:23:13 PM
I think that it is going to just get worse instead of better
Sadly, you are right.


A lot of widespread smaller attacks could do as much damage to the American psyche as one large attack.
Very true. Already there are bomb threats being made. I suspect the next attacks are likely in places we would least expect. I am way more concerned of bombings like in Boston than biological, chemical, or nuclear weapons.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: CG6468 on April 17, 2013, 03:23:41 PM
I think they have been "sleeping".  There is no way we don't have the "sleeper cells" with our lax borders.  They have lost their "effect" over there and now are waking up here to start it up.

I agree, Gina. I think they exist all around this country.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: A7X_foREVer on April 17, 2013, 03:24:02 PM

A lot of widespread smaller attacks could do as much damage to the American psyche as one large attack.

Never thought about that great point
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: olde north church on April 17, 2013, 03:53:09 PM
I think we are going to be having a bunch of these now.  Best way to invoke fear and tear up an economy is to attack random places (Walmart, fair, Mall) and scare people into going out shopping.  IMO.

yeah, we might "tear up an economy"
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: ColonelCarrots on April 17, 2013, 04:35:45 PM
Remember what Sun Tzu said? Wars are won with the hearts and minds of the people 1. Same goes for attacks. If they can shake our core and we do nothing than the enemy has won.

1 Paraphrase
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Dori on April 17, 2013, 04:59:48 PM
I'm actually surprised we haven't seen any successful bombings since 911.

There are so many venues where they could carry this out without detection. :(

Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: IassaFTots on April 17, 2013, 05:13:12 PM
Remember what Sun Tzu said? Wars are won with the hearts and minds of the people 1. Same goes for attacks. If they can shake our core and we do nothing than the enemy has won.

1 Paraphrase

Exactly.
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: Lacarnut on April 17, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
I have wondered why we have not been attacked since 9/11 also. With a weak Prez, and a racist, muzzie loving A. G., they may see the time is ripe for future terror attacks. Major Hasan should be swinging from a tree about right now. The stupid idiots in the W.H. are hoping and praying that it is not a raghead that did this deed in Boston.  
Title: Re: Two explosions at Boston Marathon Finish line.
Post by: delilahmused on April 17, 2013, 05:28:16 PM
Well, if I were Al Qaeda with sleeper cells all over the place, I'd activate them now. We have a weak president. We truly are the paper tiger they thought we were when Bush was president. The entire world knows our president has no backbone. It's perfect for them. What better time to create discouragement in the American people. Our economy is in the tank, our national debt is killing us, many people are so discouraged they've completely given up on trying to find work. Having lost their pride, they've resigned themselves to being under the government's care.

The "work place incident" which the entire country knows (even the left who try not to admit it to themselves), was terrorism. But we have a government that fails to call it what it is. Whether the press gave it it's due or not, Benghazi sits in the back of the country's mind. False blame to try to hide their absolute failure, watching our citizens die in real time, words that sound tough but are quickly forgotten by the president who said them. He had no intention of finding the guilty and bringing them to justice. He's too busy trying to strenghthen the government and weaken the citizens. Everyone knows that. The world that supposedly likes us now, only does so because they know we are weaker than them. China, Russia and Al Qaeda laugh behind our backs every day. This is the best opportunity Islamic terrorists have had and they know it.

Cindie