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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on March 16, 2013, 08:41:05 AM
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Orrex (35,628 posts)
Women of DU: if a man holds a door open for you, how do you know if it's benevolent sexism?
Assuming that he doesn't say something quaint like "ladies first," and otherwise lacking a longitudinal survey of the man's behavior, how would you identify this one event as sexism instead of basic courtesy?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022516837
These are the people who say that we need to teach young men not to rape women. Yet they throw a fit if you have traditional gentlemen attributes, like that womyn who threw a fit that her son said they let the girls use the bathrooms first before nap time. I'm not saying this attitude is making men rape women, but the fact that they piss and moan about what we were taught as good old fashioned manners must play a part in the disrespect of women that we see today, not to mention how in this past election women were portrayed as walking vaginas by the democrats.
boston bean (16,057 posts)
1. I don't know
but when I'm 100 feet behind and some guys turns and looks down the parking lot and sees me coming and waits for me to finally reach the door holding it open all along, it pisses me off.
Why, because I felt I needed to rush so as not to inconvenience them any longer for holding the door for little ole me.
Happens more often than you would think.
You know if someone holds a door for me, and I'm a man, I don't get all pissy saying that somehow it threatens my manhood if someone holds a freaking door open.
Here's a tip for you DUmmy, odds are good if a man holds a door open for your skanky ass you probably don't have to worry about him raping you. It means he was taught manners and how to treat women like people instead of a walking vagina.
babylonsister (143,306 posts)
3. I'm not getting this whole thing.
Who cares what you call it, and why all the brain power to define it? How about perhaps it's just about manners, or how someone was raised?
And I don't care if a stranger doesn't hold the door open either. I don't analyze people's intentions, or lack of.
It probably means they raised as a fundy and by holding the door they are making a statement that you are the weaker sex. :-)
Seriously it's nice to see a little common sense from a DUmmy.
Orrex (35,628 posts)
7. Thank you.
A very sensible response to this topic.
I thought at first that DUmmy Orrex agreed with the premise he set, but it appears he brought it up to find out how many of the DUmmy womyn felt that way. So far only the one DUmmyette expressed a problem with fundy men holding a door open.
It just blow my mind that anyone could find fault with someone just showing a common freaking courtesy, hell I hold the door open for anyone that is approaching the door when I am there, doesn't matter who they are, if we get to the door about the same time I wave them in then go in myself, and other times the other person will hold the door. It's like if I am at the grocery store with a cart full of stuff and someone gets behind me with 2 items, I let them go ahead of me. It's what civil decent people do. I'm sure someday a DUmmyette will be offended if I do that.
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Freeps, I'm with you. I just think it is a common courtesy. I have held the door for men, women, women with strollers and babies, older males and females, etc. i just feel like if they are close enough and you let the door go, it's like slamming the door in someone's face; it's rude. That they would find some innate sexism in this is mind-boggling considering I'm not the only person I've seen who holds the door for all walks and makes of people.
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Orrex (35,623 posts) Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:15 PM
88. Maybe the guy should hold the door shut and see if she can open it?
Me, I hold the door for whoever happens to be behind me.
Except Frank from accounting. He's an asshole.
:whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :-)
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:whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :-)
You are pariah, frank. :rofl:
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Orrex (35,628 posts)
Women of DU: if a man holds a door open for you, how do you know if it's benevolent sexism?
Assuming that he doesn't say something quaint like "ladies first," and otherwise lacking a longitudinal survey of the man's behavior, how would you identify this one event as sexism instead of basic courtesy?
(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4771499152704571&pid=1.7Huh?)
babylonsister (143,306 posts)
3. I'm not getting this whole thing.
That whole "I think I'm sooooo educated" schtick is not working for you. Best to just give it up.
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Over here in Flyover Jesusland, not only do we teach our sons to hold doors for women, we teach all our kids to bold doors for anyone coming. And we thank those that hold the doors. No wonder DUmmies hate it here.
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Freeps, I'm with you. I just think it is a common courtesy. I have held the door for men, women, women with strollers and babies, older males and females, etc. i just feel like if they are close enough and you let the door go, it's like slamming the door in someone's face; it's rude. That they would find some innate sexism in this is mind-boggling considering I'm not the only person I've seen who holds the door for all walks and makes of people.
Some folks just need to be oppressed by someone, even if they have to make up the oppression. We see that with the so called black political leaders all the time. They make up reasons for their feelings to be hurt so they whip up people into a frenzy and they make money off of it.
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Please wear a sign admitting you are a DUmbass...I will have no problem with a door breaking your parasite face. :-)
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Please wear a sign admitting you are a DUmbass...I will have no problem with a door breaking your parasite face. :-)
This works for me. I have no problem giving it a little extra shove closed so someone doesn't feel oppressed. :rofl:
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Here is what started this thread at DU,
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,85030.0.html
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Over here in Flyover Jesusland, not only do we teach our sons to hold doors for women, we teach all our kids to bold doors for anyone coming. And we thank those that hold the doors. No wonder DUmmies hate it here.
I do that here, west of the Hudson and north of the Mohawk. I had one young woman give me crap about it about twelve or thirteen years ago, on a bus where I got up and offered her my seat (on a hot summer day). She refused with a sneer, so I said, "Excuse me for thinking that you were a lady worthy of my respect!" Another young woman gladly took the seat.
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DU quandary: What happens if a lesbian holds a door for a straight woman?
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DU quandary: What happens if a lesbian holds a door for a straight woman?
I don't think the feminists have progressed that far. They haven't had classes, seminars and grant studies on it yet.
My guess is that the assumption would be that the straight woman is a bigot and the lesbian was only being polite.
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Please wear a sign admitting you are a DUmbass...I will have no problem with a door breaking your parasite face. :-)
H5 Carl!
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I don't think the feminists have progressed that far. They haven't had classes, seminars and grant studies on it yet.
My guess is that the assumption would be that the straight woman is a bigot and the lesbian was only being polite.
Hi 5 and well put Dori! Of course the Straight person is the bigot because she is not in touch with the She/He/IT's feelings! If they weren't so d**n serious about this it would be funny. THis is the kind of stuff you expect out of the onion. :banghead:
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:whatever: Jesus it must suck to be a DUmmie. I am a woman, a man is a man but not all men are gentlemen. I like real men who treatment me like a real woman.
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I am thinking lurking DUmbasses need BEG pics to know what a real (non ****ed up) woman looks like! :naughty:
Can`t hate a guy for trying at least. :-)
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I am thinking lurking DUmbasses need BEG pics to know what a real (non ****ed up) woman looks like! :naughty:
Can`t hate a guy for trying at least. :-)
SEXIST!!!!!! :tampon:
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Some folks just need to be oppressed by someone, even if they have to make up the oppression. We see that with the so called black political leaders all the time. They make up reasons for their feelings to be hurt so they whip up people into a frenzy and they make money off of it.
Sounds like the definition of a liberal/Dummy. H-5 :-)
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SEXIST!!!!!! :tampon:
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:rotf:
I love the angry tampon march. Every time one of their snarky, bitchy feminist threads come to roost, I think of it...every last time. :rofl:
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What an issue in which to get all worked up over. Why can't they use the time they spent talking about this non-sense taking care of the poor, etc... they claim to have so much compassion for? Oh, that's right, that's for the gov't to do through taxing rich people and not for the primitive intelligensia.
I'm with Carl. Let me know you're a kook and I'll gladly let the door slam in your face.
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SEXIST!!!!!! :tampon:
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Not to embarrass you jty but you are the perfect example of what a true liberated woman is for those that know your life and screw the DUmp harpys,nice to look at too. :-)
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Not to embarrass you jty but you are the perfect example of what a true liberated woman is for those that know your life and screw the DUmp harpys,nice to look at too. :-)
Neighbor, I think all of the wimmenz here at the Cave fall into that description. (Especially BEG! :-* )
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Not to embarrass you jty but you are the perfect example of what a true liberated woman is for those that know your life and screw the DUmp harpys,nice to look at too. :-)
I can't find the red-faced smilie right now. :) :cheersmate:
I truly appreciate that. Been a rough go and it's nice to get the 'atta girls' I've had from some of my friends here who know me better :cheersmate:
As for the dump harpys...they are just pitifully hilarious. I am sad to say I have a very good friend and when I say that I mean has had my back like nobody else up here when I've been a in pinch save for my mother(for those who don't know I'm a transplant in my ex husband's land so I'm about 1200 miles from my extended family and long time friends). Well the thing is I can't stand talking to her for any length of time on anything of substance anymore. She gave up an educational path of physical therapy to pursue social work and women's studies....she sounds just like those morons over at the dump regarding this issue. Her ex is out of a job and on unemployment, her mortgage gets further and further behind, she isn't working and she wants to talk about stupid crap like 'benevolent sexism'. I told her in a recent discussion that she'd do more to empower herself by looking for a job and that her 'sexist oppressive' ex husband was the one paying all her bills while she went to school before he lost his job. I think she didn't like me for a few minutes anyway. :-)
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Neighbor, I think all of the wimmenz here at the Cave fall into that description. (Especially BEG! :-* )
Even BEG bowed at my abilities and umm 'retained youth' recently I'll have you know, but I do remember a comment about learning well from her though so there is that. :lmao: :-)
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I think that from now on before I open the door for some lady I'll ask "Are you a feminist?" If they say no I'll open the door. If they say yes I'll just go through it in a small opening and close it behind myself.
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Jeesh. If a gentleman holds the door for one of those surly, snarling females from the DUmp, it is truly a testament to his raising.
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The paradox of all this is that my experience with left leaning women is that when it comes to relationships,and equality puts them at a disadvantaged place regarding rejection or sacrifice,feminism is thrown out the window instantly.
They are the most lazy,entitled feeling bunch of screaming scrunts who want a man to grovel at their feet to make them feel good one can ever imagine.
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Neighbor, I think all of the wimmenz here at the Cave fall into that description. (Especially BEG! :-* )
:picsneeded:
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Neighbor, I think all of the wimmenz here at the Cave fall into that description. (Especially BEG! :-* )
Indeed it does! :cheersmate:
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What is their problem????????????? :mental:
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If a man holds a door open for a DUmmy "woman", does it ruin their whole day?
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If a man holds a door open for a DUmmy "woman", does it ruin their whole day?
If it does I will actively seek out DUmmy womyn and ruin their day.
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If it does I will actively seek out DUmmy womyn and ruin their day.
I will too. I'm not a man, but I'm sure if another female held the door open for a DUmmy female, their world would end.
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I will too. I'm not a man, but I'm sure if another female held the door open for a DUmmy female, their world would end.
That may turn them on. :-) How would you like to be the love interest of a woman that doesn't shave her legs or pits. :-)
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If the feminazis blow a gasket to a someone holding a door open to them, I wonder what they would do to a man who calls them 'ma'am' all the time? :fuelfire: :tongue:
I wonder; would their heads would start to spin right away or would they just spit out the pea soup first? :-)
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If the feminazis blow a gasket to a someone holding a door open to them, I wonder what they would do to a man who calls them 'ma'am' all the time? :fuelfire: :tongue:
I wonder; would their heads would start to spin right away or would they just spit out the pea soup first? :-)
I'm sure that reactions will vary between those two. I think that the head turning would occur first in most cases. The pea soup may be replaced by fire on some cases.
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I'm sure that reactions will vary between those two. I think that the head turning would occur first in most cases. The pea soup may be replaced by fire on some cases.
Hi 5, well played sir! I tip my hat to you!
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SEXIST!!!!!! :tampon:
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OMG- are those dancing tampons? :rotf:
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That may turn them on. :-) How would you like to be the love interest of a woman that doesn't shave her legs or pits. :-)
Ummm . . . Jess, he does have a point. :tongue: :fuelfire:
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OMG- are those dancing tampons? :rotf:
They are angry tampons....just seems so..appropriate for a bunch of seething feminists lol
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They are angry tampons....just seems so..appropriate for a bunch of seething feminists lol
Angry Tampons.
Sounds like a funny alternative to Angry Birds. :rotf:
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Angry Tampons.
Sounds like a funny alternative to Angry Birds. :rotf:
You can just see them catapulting towards the pigs(male of course) and all the closed door, glass ceiling, paternalistic structures protecting them. "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" :lmao:
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You can just see them catapulting towards the pigs(male of course) and all the closed door, glass ceiling, paternalistic structures protecting them. "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" :lmao:
The used tampons would be the most destructive. :fuelfire: :-)
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The used tampons would be the most destructive. :fuelfire: :-)
Those would be the ones that turn into bombs when you throw them. :rofl:
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Those would be the ones that turn into bombs when you throw them. :rofl:
At least the residue would be biodegradable.
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This is all I have to add now:
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Angry Tampons.
Sounds like a funny alternative to Angry Birds. :rotf:
Play Angry Tampons today, it is a lot of bloody fun.
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That may turn them on. :-) How would you like to be the love interest of a woman that doesn't shave her legs or pits. :-)
That's nasty. I'll have to slam the door in their face.
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They are angry tampons....just seems so..appropriate for a bunch of seething feminists lol
Hilarious! That made me LOL.
I recently heard the term gynofascist on twitter. I love it.
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Play Angry Tampons today, it is a lot of bloody fun.
:tampon: :tampon: :tampon:
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Hilarious! That made me LOL.
I recently heard the term gynofascist on twitter. I love it.
ooh, that one's going in the memory bank. :rofl:
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ooh, that one's going in the memory bank. :rofl:
Yeah, I've been waiting to use it. HA. I think Adam Carolla said it.
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That's nasty. I'll have to slam the door in their face.
Is it as nasty as Angry Tampons? :-)
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I wish y'all wouldn't rag on women having their period.....reminds me of my "X" wife and makes me want to go into the fright or flight mood. :panic:
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Leftism is a plague on humanity. I had a waitress berate the hell out of me in a favorite restaurant/bar when I was going to Fairbanks, Alaska working on Ft. Wainwright. What was the "ZOMG! No you di'int!!!" thing I did? I ordered a beer. When she brought me the beer, I said, "Thanks, sweetie". You'd have thought I just called her the C word.
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Leftism is a plague on humanity. I had a waitress berate the hell out of me in a favorite restaurant/bar when I was going to Fairbanks, Alaska working on Ft. Wainwright. What was the "ZOMG! No you di'int!!!" thing I did? I ordered a beer. When she brought me the beer, I said, "Thanks, sweetie". You'd have thought I just called her the C word.
Maybe we should have a poll on the cave asking the wimins what they think about being called sweetie. :-)
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When I was dating actively I actually told my girlfriends that when it came to opening doors and pulling chairs out for them I would do it. all of them never expected it since guys they dated never did that for them. Some even told me that the guys would tell them they could do it themselves. Shameful on my generation. Think I'm the token Gentleman of my Generation.
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So if I hold the door for a black woman, am I being sexist or racist?
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So if I hold the door for a black woman, am I being sexist or racist?
Yes.
Next question? :tongue:
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OMG I just saw this thread. What scrunts! I hold doors open for people all the time, men, women and children. If I see you coming I will wait and hold the door open. It's really pathetic that when I hold the door open for an elder they are shocked and say "Why Thank you!". it shouldn't be that way now, that being courteous warrants a shocked expression. :mad:
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So if I hold the door for a black woman, am I being sexist or racist?
Depends. Is it a month with an A in it?
Where are you in relation to the equator?
Did you hold the door with your right or left hand?
Is the door an ingress or an egress?
There's a whole formula.
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Depends. Is it a month with an A in it?
Where are you in relation to the equator?
Did you hold the door with your right or left hand?
Is the door an ingress or an egress?
There's a whole formula.
And it changes at times, based on moon phase and sunspot activity.