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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 12, 2013, 09:42:51 AM
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AgingAmerican (839 posts)
Fox News guest Zerlina Maxwell: ‘I refuse to be silenced’ by conservatives threatening rape
Democratic strategist Zerlina Maxwell on Monday said she would not be silenced by vulgar insults and threats of violence, and would continue speaking out against rape.
“I’m certainly taking steps to protect my emotional health, but I will not be quiet because I refuse to be bullied into silence,†she said on MSNBC.
During a segment on Fox News’ Hannity, Maxwell suggested that the onus of preventing rape should be on men rather than women. She warned that suggesting women should carry guns to prevent themselves from being raped could easily devolve into a victim-blaming mentality.
Conservatives who viewed Maxwell’s remarks as hostile to gun rights took to social media websites to express their outrage, with some even saying she deserved to be gang raped and killed.
More here...
Republicans are sick, sick people. Especially the gun nut types.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022493523
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Is it that time of the month again already?
After saying that, if you need me, I mean really, really need me, I'll be hiding in the hills for the rest of the week.
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She was the idiot that said something to the effect of, "Just tell men not to rape," in answer to a discussion of women and CCW permits, IIRC.
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What an idiot.
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Last week, Zerlina Maxwell—Democratic strategist, writer and rape survivor—went on the Sean Hannity Show and suggested that men and boys can be trained not to rape.
Trained? What are they, hamsters in a cage?
Maybe she should spend her time attacking the root causes. I would start with the rap culture that denegrates women and glorifies abuse towards women.
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Last week, Zerlina Maxwell—Democratic strategist, writer and rape survivor—went on the Sean Hannity Show and suggested that men and boys can be trained not to rape.
Trained? What are they, hamsters in a cage?
Maybe she should spend her time attacking the root causes. I would start with the rap culture that denegrates women and glorifies abuse towards women.
Won't work, Just to much commonsense and not enough taxes spent.....and it doesn't castrate and feminize the males.
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If in fact she is a rape survivor, she would then know first-****ing-hand how useless it is to say "NO" to someone intent upon raping you.
Which makes her statement doubly stupid.
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Apparently this is the meme the leftist think tanks have decided to run with: Women Are To Emotional to Own a Gun For Protection. Plus if women are defending themselves without daddy government, they're victims or something. On HotAir, the resident troll is seriously arguing this insane point.
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/03/12/woman-to-rep-moran-why-arent-you-pro-choice-on-self-defense-for-women/comment-page-1/#comments (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/03/12/woman-to-rep-moran-why-arent-you-pro-choice-on-self-defense-for-women/comment-page-1/#comments)
Normal Conservative View:
A victim might have her gun taken. But without one, something else from her surely will be.
Desperate Libtard desperate to stop common sense:
When will conservatives stop peddling these lies? Most rape victims were assaulted by someone they know or even were on a date with. How is a gun supposed to help in that situation? As Zerlina Maxwell so eloquently put, are women really going to be able to make the split second decision to shoot and kill someone they had trusted? If we took the gun culture solution to rape to its logical conclusion we would re-enter a world where women would not be able to have casual friendships with members of the opposite sex. How else to be able to be *sure* that one could shoot and kill if attacked?
That’s the really ugly underside to what conservatives are envisioning as the solution to rape. That is isn’t about giving guns to women to liberate them, this is about putting the onus on stopping rape on women and defacto regulating women’s behavior. Saying a woman “should have had a gun†is no less victim blaming than saying a woman “should’ve have been dressed that way†or “she shouldn’t have been flirting.†When on earth will conservatives admit that the problem with rape in this society is not what women do, it is what’s wrong with MEN. What lessons have men been taught that makes a significant number of them feel they can force themselves on women they take on a few dates or who is kind to them? Since rapists cut across every race, class and geographic bracket there really is some larger cultural issue at play here. When will conservatives own up to it.
Only in the insane leftist world can a woman can make life and death decisions regarding a baby, but for god's sake don't give her a gun.
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Remember, Jim Moran (D-VA) is the brain-dead Congressman whose son just got convicted of beating the crap out of his girlfriend.
I'm guessing the girlfriend might have a differing opinon than said Congressman or son, but then again, they've got an agenda to push, dontcha know.
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Don't tell me, she's one of those "All sex is rape" types.
Meh, maybe. Not bad looking but a Moonbat.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/689_517884181603278_1487152276_n.jpg)
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Zerlina Maxwell appears to have the IQ of a pencil eraser.
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Don't tell me, she's one of those "All sex is rape" types.
I thought that was one of the pillars of feminism.
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Zerlina Maxwell appears to have the IQ of a pencil eraser.
Less than.
At least a pencil eraser is capable of undoing mistakes.
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Never heard of her. Odds are she was somebody's baby mama by age 15.
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Apparently this is the meme the leftist think tanks have decided to run with: Women Are To Emotional to Own a Gun For Protection. Plus if women are defending themselves without daddy government, they're victims or something.
These are the same lefties that insist we allow women in combat. :mental:
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Remember, Jim Moran (D-VA) is the brain-dead Congressman whose son just got convicted of beating the crap out of his girlfriend.
I'm guessing the girlfriend might have a differing opinon than said Congressman or son, but then again, they've got an agenda to push, dontcha know.
Just looking out for his evil son, the girlfriend beater, and not your lovely daughter.
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Apparently this is the meme the leftist think tanks have decided to run with: Women Are To Emotional to Own a Gun For Protection. Plus if women are defending themselves without daddy government, they're victims or something. On HotAir, the resident troll is seriously arguing this insane point.
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/03/12/woman-to-rep-moran-why-arent-you-pro-choice-on-self-defense-for-women/comment-page-1/#comments (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/03/12/woman-to-rep-moran-why-arent-you-pro-choice-on-self-defense-for-women/comment-page-1/#comments)
Desperate Libtard desperate to stop common sense:
Heh... Sounds like gator's pet DUmmie, Bridget.
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I’m certainly taking steps to protect my emotional health
Your emotional health was napalmed some time ago. Your metal health requires close observation by random Zoo animals, at a distance.
Quote from: Kimberly on Today at 09:09:45 am
Apparently this is the meme the leftist think tanks have decided to run with: Women Are To Emotional to Own a Gun For Protection. Plus if women are defending themselves without daddy government, they're victims or something. On HotAir, the resident troll is seriously arguing this insane point.
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/03/12/woman-to-rep-moran-why-arent-you-pro-choice-on-self-defense-for-women/comment-page-1/#comments
Desperate Libtard desperate to stop common sense:
Let me guess, libfreeordie or verbulace, which seem to the same malformed organism.
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Some people need to be in a home for their own good.
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HockeyMom (10,387 posts)
1. Little girls get raped also
Do they think a 10 year old should be carrying a gun to and from school to protect her from rape?
No she should just pee her pants and puke all over the guy, if that doesn't work run to a rape free zone and blow a whistle.
I have a crazy idea how about we have some responsible adults keeping an eye on the kids when they are at school?
KitSileya (1,529 posts)
8. I'm sorry that happened to you.
I also think Maxwell's rebuttal that women in the military, most of whom have access to guns, are also the ones most at risk of getting raped is very true.
How on earth is gun rights going to protect children from being raped? Or how will it protect women and men from being raped by their friends, their co-workers, their families? After all, most rapists know their victims. Do they expect children to carry arms whenever they're alone with their dads, their parents' friends? Do they expect women to carry guns at work - everywhere? If those who think guns are the best answer to everything cannot see the idiocy in this, they are clearly saying that theirs are not opinions worth listening to, let alone debating.
The DUmmies still think that everyone on a military base walks around with their M-16 locked and loaded.
A whole lot of stupid in that post.
riqster (3,484 posts)
10. They seem to believe Stalin's maxim
"Power comes from the barrel of a gun"; the gun nuts forget how Stalin ended up.
And you forgot how the people under Stalin ended up.
RZM (8,083 posts)
16. That's a Mao quote
And Stalin didn't die from a gunshot, he died of a stroke. There are theories that he was poisoned, but the evidence still points mostly to stroke.
Bush killed him or was it Frank?
riqster (3,484 posts)
18. Stalin said it too
IIRC, he said "long rifle".
It's an honest mistake, since all dictators are the same it's easy to get confused.
niyad (22,731 posts)
12. the gun nuts remind me of this saying" "if your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
You know nothing about gun owners if you say that.
You act as if gun owners shoot their guns to open cans and turn off lights. :mental:
JoDog (1,244 posts)
2. Hooray for Ms. Maxwell
She should not let these idiots shut her down. I am glad someone finally went on a national forum and said this--that teaching young women how to avoid rape is only half of the equation. We also need to teach young men how to avoid committing the crime, to respect woman, and that a woman's body is not public property.
It does not matter what a woman wears, what she eats or drinks, where she is, or what time of day it is. The choice to rape comes down to the person who does the rape. Period. We must end the social attitude that tells men that certain women are "fair game".
Zerlina Maxwell is absolutely right, and I stand by her.
If we need to teach kids that they shouldn't rape then this country has bigger problems than I thought. I guess this is what happens when the government takes on the role of the parent and doesn't bother to teach any kind of morals.
Coolest Ranger (310 posts)
14. I'm so glad she spoke out
I am getting tired of these Republicans and their need to threaten anyone they don't like.
And I'm tired of you idiots threatening everyone you don't like.
99Forever (4,085 posts)
15. Ugly stuff for sure.
But then, it's exactly what we have come to expect from righties. Hate, prejudice, fear, threats, violence, and greed defines them.
Unfortunately, teh gun culture culture and The Delicate Flower mental illness that goes with it, crosses party lines.
:mental:
Damn these people are stupid.
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You act as if gun owners shoot their guns to open cans and turn off lights.
I do... I thought that was typical.
Anyway, I like how this argument has turned to children now. I thought it was about women and how women would like to be able to protect themselves from rape with a gun. How about we teach our young children self defense/martial arts of some sort until they are old enough to own a gun? That's what we are doing in our household.
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Homer Simpson... :rotf:
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oDog (1,244 posts)
2. Hooray for Ms. Maxwell
She should not let these idiots shut her down. I am glad someone finally went on a national forum and said this--that teaching young women how to avoid rape is only half of the equation. We also need to teach young men how to avoid committing the crime, to respect woman, and that a woman's body is not public property.
It does not matter what a woman wears, what she eats or drinks, where she is, or what time of day it is. The choice to rape comes down to the person who does the rape. Period. We must end the social attitude that tells men that certain women are "fair game".
Uh, DUmbass, it's not us who want to arm and empower women, it's you ****wits who keep enabling the very type of behavior you lament through your cowardice and liberal guilt. It's not the conservatives who treat women like "bitches" and "ho's", it's you.
BTW, does anyone else get the feeling that these bigots have lost this argument? I mean, if you are doubling down on this kind of sexist stupidity, doesn't that pretty much mean that no one is buying it? Or is it just me?
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If it wasn't for the lefts attempts to undo everything this country stands for then maybe rape wouldn't be the problem it is. They won't let criminals pay the full price for the crimes they commit by the letter of the law, They try to understand the reasons for the crimes rather then help the victims. they take the tools needed to control crime away from the people like new prisons and they wonder why ,when they make it hard to own guns the crime rate skyrockets only to blame the law abiding people. They should probably share a jail cell with the worse of the worse and then see how long they want to be Liberal.
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She was the idiot that said something to the effect of, "Just tell men not to rape," in answer to a discussion of women and CCW permits, IIRC.
AgingAmerican (839 posts)
Fox News guest Zerlina Maxwell: ‘I refuse to be silenced’ by conservatives threatening rape
Democratic strategist Zerlina Maxwell on Monday said she would not be silenced by vulgar insults and threats of violence, and would continue speaking out against rape.
“I’m certainly taking steps to protect my emotional health, but I will not be quiet because I refuse to be bullied into silence,†she said on MSNBC.
During a segment on Fox News’ Hannity, Maxwell suggested that the onus of preventing rape should be on men rather than women. She warned that suggesting women should carry guns to prevent themselves from being raped could easily devolve into a victim-blaming mentality.
Conservatives who viewed Maxwell’s remarks as hostile to gun rights took to social media websites to express their outrage, with some even saying she deserved to be gang raped and killed.
More here...
Republicans are sick, sick people. Especially the gun nut types.
Telling men not to rape. So, by their thinking, all men are rapists??????? :wtf2: By their thinking, we should tell Al-Qaeda to stop bombing people. What a bunch of DUmmies. They are so stupid. :mental:
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It does not matter what a woman wears, what she eats or drinks, where she is, or what time of day it is. The choice to rape comes down to the person who does the rape. Period. We must end the social attitude that tells men that certain women are "fair game".
You mean like Islam?
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If it wasn't for the lefts attempts to undo everything this country stands for then maybe rape wouldn't be the problem it is. They won't let criminals pay the full price for the crimes they commit by the letter of the law, They try to understand the reasons for the crimes rather then help the victims. they take the tools needed to control crime away from the people like new prisons and they wonder why ,when they make it hard to own guns the crime rate skyrockets only to blame the law abiding people. They should probably share a jail cell with the worse of the worse and then see how long they want to be Liberal.
The exception being if the accused rapists are white and the accuser is black. Then guilty or innocent they need to be punished.
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Homer Simpson... :rotf:
Homer got a gun is probably my favorite Simpsons ever.
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Your emotional health was napalmed some time ago. Your metal health requires close observation by random Zoo animals, at a distance.
Let me guess, libfreeordie or verbulace, which seem to the same malformed organism.
It's libfree. I can only stand so much of him before my blood pressure shoots through the roof.
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Democratic strategist
I wonder how many box tops you have to send in for that?
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Well, she can protect her "emotional health" by acting like a whiny, helpless, ***** little bitch, I'll protect mine with a shotgun.
Cindie
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HockeyMom (10,387 posts)
1. Little girls get raped also
Do they think a 10 year old should be carrying a gun to and from school to protect her from rape?
I would trust my 10 year old daughter, who has been taught to properly handle a weapon, long before I trust a liberal "safe zone".
You might want to give up, DUmbasses, you've lost this one, too.
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HockeyMom (10,387 posts)
1. Little girls get raped also
Do they think a 10 year old should be carrying a gun to and from school to protect her from rape?
But liberals think 10-year olds can safely handle condoms.
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HockeyMom (10,387 posts)
1. Little girls get raped also
Do they think a 10 year old should be carrying a gun to and from school to protect her from rape?
What a stupid comment.
May as well ask if a fifty year old liberal should be carrying a ballot.
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HockeyMom should have her kids taken away .