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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Ashisrael on January 21, 2013, 05:58:05 PM
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What do you think the Republicans need to do to win the Presidency next time? The democrats I talk to say the republicans will never win another election. They point to the changing demographics and say Whites are on the way out.
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What do you think the Republicans need to do to win the Presidency next time? The democrats I talk to say the republicans will never win another election. They point to the changing demographics and say Whites are on the way out.
Sit back and wait.
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Well, what makes one think the Republican party is the "white party"?
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Well, what makes one think the Republican party is the "white party"?
A troll.
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What do you think the Republicans need to do to win the Presidency next time? The democrats I talk to say the republicans will never win another election. They point to the changing demographics and say Whites are on the way out.
Can somebody do an IP check on this critter?
Sounds a lot like Brian (the Shitbird), a troll that used to regale us with his anti-Semitism.
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Can somebody do an IP check on this critter?
Sounds a lot like Brian (the Shitbird), a troll that used to regale us with his anti-Semitism.
Proxy server reporting its location in the UK.
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What do you think the Republicans need to do to win the Presidency next time?
The Messiah banning guns should do it.
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Sit back and wait.
I admire your 'iniative' but that did not work too well last time.
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Well, what makes one think the Republican party is the "white party"?
That seems to be the consensus of the media and of course most democrats.
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The Messiah banning guns should do it.
Excellent point.
How many times did Obama say he would not take American's guns?
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How many times did Obama say he would not take American's guns?
And you believed him.
How cute.
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Excellent point.
How many times did Obama say he would not take American's guns?
He meant in his first term. Now that we've turned the corner, it's full speed ahead.
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What do you think the Republicans need to do to win the Presidency next time? The democrats I talk to say the republicans will never win another election. They point to the changing demographics and say Whites are on the way out.
I think the GOP needs to embrace socialism and promise more goodies than the Dems do.
The GOP needs to jump on the gun ban bandwagon, amnesty for illegals, free abortion on demand, and free motel vouchers to go along with free birth control.
Then we need to support and demand single payer health care, tax the rich even more, and draw down the military by at least 60%.
Would that get your vote?
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I think the GOP needs to embrace socialism and promise more goodies than the Dems do.
The GOP needs to jump on the gun ban bandwagon, amnesty for illegals, free abortion on demand, and free motel vouchers to go along with free birth control.
Then we need to support and demand single payer health care, tax the rich even more, and draw down the military by at least 60%.
Would that get your vote?
Over the past 12 years, the GOP HAS embraced socialism, spent money like drunken sailors (even when the till was empty), and brought lotsa pork home. I think they might've drawn the line at free motel vouchers, though...
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I think the GOP needs to embrace socialism and promise more goodies than the Dems do.
The GOP needs to jump on the gun ban bandwagon, amnesty for illegals, free abortion on demand, and free motel vouchers to go along with free birth control.
Then we need to support and demand single payer health care, tax the rich even more, and draw down the military by at least 60%.
Would that get your vote?
I do not live in America. I just find it interesting talking to Americans about politics. I find American Politics rather confusing but interesting nontheless.
I am sure you are being facetious but from what I read there is a big push amongst Republicans to veer to the left and adopt more of a liberal platform.
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What do you think the Republicans need to do to win the Presidency next time? The democrats I talk to say the republicans will never win another election. They point to the changing demographics and say Whites are on the way out.
Everyone who thought their side would always win has turned out to be wrong. Republicans who won 5 of six elections from 1968-1988 gave way to Democrats winning the popular vote in 5 of the next six. Things can and do change.
In order to win again, Republicans have to speak to the chasm between the Democrats' rhetoric and the results that they have delivered to the minority communities. They have to speak to everyone, and make the case for individual liberty everywhere. I'd like to see people like JC Watts, Allen West and Sens. Scott, Cruz and Rubio be the face of the party for the next four years.
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I do not live in America. I just find it interesting talking to Americans about politics. I find American Politics rather confusing but interesting nontheless.
I am sure you are being facetious but from what I read there is a big push amongst Republicans to veer to the left and adopt more of a liberal platform.
No. There is an abject FAILURE on the part of national leadership of the Republican party to adhere to basic principles on which most of us agree - smaller government, less spending, lower taxes.
Big difference.
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Everyone who thought their side would always win has turned out to be wrong. Republicans who won 5 of six elections from 1968-1988 gave way to Democrats winning the popular vote in 5 of the next six. Things can and do change.
In order to win again, Republicans have to speak to the chasm between the Democrats' rhetoric and the results that they have delivered to the minority communities. They have to speak to everyone, and make the case for individual liberty everywhere. I'd like to see people like JC Watts, Allen West and Sens. Scott, Cruz and Rubio be the face of the party for the next four years.
You have to assume that not only will the Republicans speak to that chasm, but that people are LISTENING. Right now, all they're hearing is that Barry and his Thugs will give more free shit than the Repubs will.
I have lost a great deal of confidence in the ability of many Americans to THINK about what the hell they're hearing.
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I do not live in America. I just find it interesting talking to Americans about politics. I find American Politics rather confusing but interesting nontheless.
I am sure you are being facetious but from what I read there is a big push amongst Republicans to veer to the left and adopt more of a liberal platform.
Yes I was using heavy sarcasm.
Sad part is you are right, the GOP will push more to the left every time they lose. By the time 2016 comes around I expect the GOP to run a pro amnesty, pro choice, gun grabbing moderate republican.
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Over the past 12 years, the GOP HAS embraced socialism, spent money like drunken sailors (even when the till was empty), and brought lotsa pork home. I think they might've drawn the line at free motel vouchers, though...
Just wait till 2016 they will promise motel vouchers and a free six pack.
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Just wait till 2016 they will promise motel vouchers and a free six pack.
If that's a bet, I'm not taking it.
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If that's a bet, I'm not taking it.
Sadly I'm only being slightly sarcastic.
Based on all the "soul searching" the GOP has been doing since Nov, I don't see the GOP moving to the right. I see them moving more and more left.
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What do you think the Republicans need to do to win the Presidency next time? The democrats I talk to say the republicans will never win another election. They point to the changing demographics and say Whites are on the way out.
Obvious troll is obvious.
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Excellent point.
How many times did Obama say he would not take American's guns?
How many times has Obama said anything that was true ?????
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Well, what makes one think the Republican party is the "white party"?
I'd like to speak to that. For all the talk from the Democrats on race, did they ever once develop a "farm team" of credible minority candidates for national office? I think that's what they may have been trying to do when they gave Obama the keynote in 2004, but he jumped ahead of the timetable and ran in 2008 with no discernible accomplishments.
It worked for them this time, but who do they have in the pipeline? The only names I can think of are Julian Castro and Cory Booker, but they're just mayors. No one is going from city hall to the White House. They have no minority farm team.
Meanwhile, the GOP, thanks in large part to the supposedly racist tea party, has politicians like Rubio, Cruz, Susannah Martinez, Bobby Jindal, and Nikki Haley all making names for themselves. The Republican Party is looking strong for the future, not so much with the democrats.
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Wait till Michelle runs in 2016...
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Wait till Michelle runs in 2016...
A scary thought but it would not suprise me in the least. I think she loves being up there more than Obama.
Another possibility I see floated around is that there might be a push to amend the constitution and allow Obama to run for a third term. :runaway:
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How many times has Obama said anything that was true ?????
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Just once.
“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of Americaâ€
-October 30, 2008
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What do you think the Republicans need to do to win the Presidency next time? The democrats I talk to say the republicans will never win another election. They point to the changing demographics and say Whites are on the way out.
Douchey troll is douchey.
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Tim Scott for president....since he's black and they count black votes twice that's 24% right off the bat. Then you add the liberal white guilt vote, the ultra conservative white vote, the Christian vote and pretty soon you're talking a landslide.
Wouldn't that be ironic, a conservative black president from the state that gets blamed for starting the Civil War.
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Another possibility I see floated around is that there might be a push to amend the constitution and allow Obama to run for a third term. :runaway:
The same thing that was "floated" for bubba clinton. Nothing new, wouldn't happen anyway.
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I'd like to speak to that. For all the talk from the Democrats on race, did they ever once develop a "farm team" of credible minority candidates for national office? I think that's what they may have been trying to do when they gave Obama the keynote in 2004, but he jumped ahead of the timetable and ran in 2008 with no discernible accomplishments.
It worked for them this time, but who do they have in the pipeline? The only names I can think of are Julian Castro and Cory Booker, but they're just mayors. No one is going from city hall to the White House. They have no minority farm team.
Meanwhile, the GOP, thanks in large part to the supposedly racist tea party, has politicians like Rubio, Cruz, Susannah Martinez, Bobby Jindal, and Nikki Haley all making names for themselves. The Republican Party is looking strong for the future, not so much with the democrats.
I think Alan Keyes would have made a great President. Unfortunately he was too conservative for the media.
Obama was touted as being a 'genius' by the media when the truth was his i.q. hovers around 106. He was touted also because he was a 'president' of the Harvard Law Review but those who investigated how he obtained that position discovered it was because of Affirmative Action.
In fact Obama was not even qualified academically or in any other legitimate way to even attend a ivy league college.
On the other hand Alan Keyes is a very gifted man with real intelligence and with a strong moral charcter and intimate knowledge of the constitution.
As someone has said--A Nation gets the type of leadership it deserves not the kind it needs.
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I think Alan Keyes would have made a great President. Unfortunately he was too conservative for the media.
True. And he got into the race rather late and got a very slow start, along with his own departure from the Republican Party to form the new "Independent Party." Not particularly a very smooth on his part, but I guess he had to do what he had to do.
Obama was touted as being a 'genius' by the media when the truth was his i.q. hovers around 106. He was touted also because he was a 'president' of the Harvard Law Review but those who investigated how he obtained that position discovered it was because of Affirmative Action.
True again. The Obama Spin Machine very much includes the lapdog media.
In fact Obama was not even qualified academically or in any other legitimate way to even attend a ivy league college.
Damn, that's three swings and a hit each time. :cheersmate:
On the other hand Alan Keyes is a very gifted man with real intelligence and with a strong moral charcter and intimate knowledge of the constitution.
Yup again. Nice job.
I really liked it when Dr. Keyes was arrested on the campus of Notre Dame when Barry came to bray about how wonderful he is. Keyes was marching in an anti-abortion protest when he was arrested. Shades of MLK, I thought at the time.
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No. There is an abject FAILURE on the part of national leadership of the Republican party to adhere to basic principles on which most of us agree - smaller government, less spending, lower taxes.
Big difference.
Most Conservatives would agree that all of that would be good.
The Big Problem for the Republicans is that the majority of voters in America today will not vote for a candidate that simply espouses that.
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Sadly I'm only being slightly sarcastic.
Based on all the "soul searching" the GOP has been doing since Nov, I don't see the GOP moving to the right. I see them moving more and more left.
Exactly.
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Tim Scott for president....since he's black and they count black votes twice that's 24% right off the bat. Then you add the liberal white guilt vote, the ultra conservative white vote, the Christian vote and pretty soon you're talking a landslide.
Wouldn't that be ironic, a conservative black president from the state that gets blamed for starting the Civil War.
Judging from the recent past, the dems would get three women to say he molested, sexually harassed them ala Herman Cain. :whatever:
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Judging from the recent past, the dems would get three women to say he molested, sexually harassed them ala Herman Cain. :whatever:
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Then he switches parties and becomes one of those very rare, Zell Miller type southern conservative democrats......better up his score to several women and a couple of rapes a-la Bill Clinton style.
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Most Conservatives would agree that all of that would be good.
The Big Problem for the Republicans is that the majority of voters in America today will not vote for a candidate that simply espouses that.
Agreed. Which is one of the reasons why I think, in general, my country is heading straight into the shitter.
It takes a communicator, a person with a vision who can articulate that vision. We didn't have it in Romney. Never trust a man who goes to the barber for an oil change rather than a haircut. He also walked like he had a broomstick up his ass.
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Judging from the recent past, the dems would get three women to say he molested, sexually harassed them ala Herman Cain. :whatever:
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You may be joking but there is much truth in what you say. The big mistake the republicans made was to let the media destroy their candidates one by one until the last man standing was romney--which is exactly what the media/democrats wanted.
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Agreed. Which is one of the reasons why I think, in general, my country is heading straight into the shitter.
It takes a communicator, a person with a vision who can articulate that vision. We didn't have it in Romney. Never trust a man who goes to the barber for an oil change rather than a haircut. He also walked like he had a broomstick up his ass.
The only possible light I see at the end of the tunnel is for things to get so bad that the military will conduct a coup d etat and put America under martial law. Hopefully the dictatorship will be a enlightened one that will deport all traitors(meaning hollwood as a whole, liberals, democrats) to south america.
I jest- partially anyhow
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The only possible light I see at the end of the tunnel is for things to get so bad that the military will conduct a coup d etat and put America under martial law. Hopefully the dictatorship will be a enlightened one that will deport all traitors(meaning hollwood as a whole, liberals, democrats) to south america.
I jest- partially anyhow
I don't ****ing think so.
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The only possible light I see at the end of the tunnel is for things to get so bad that the military will conduct a coup d etat and put America under martial law. Hopefully the dictatorship will be a enlightened one that will deport all traitors(meaning hollwood as a whole, liberals, democrats) to south america.
I jest- partially anyhow
You should troll more. Those are thoughts on the island not ours.
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The only possible light I see at the end of the tunnel is for things to get so bad that the military will conduct a coup d etat and put America under martial law. Hopefully the dictatorship will be a enlightened one that will deport all traitors(meaning hollwood as a whole, liberals, democrats) to south america.
I jest- partially anyhow
Despite our problems, my country isn't a third world hellhole that changes its military junta like I change my underwear. I swore an oath to protect and defend my Constitution -- and speaking of "martial law" you might do well to study up on a little thing called posse comatitus.
You bring your Brit ass to my country and start talking that kind of smack, your ass will be sucking buttermilk -- I can guarantee that.
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The only possible light I see at the end of the tunnel is for things to get so bad that the military will conduct a coup d etat and put America under martial law. Hopefully the dictatorship will be a enlightened one that will deport all traitors(meaning hollwood as a whole, liberals, democrats) to south america.
I jest- partially anyhow
Not even close to being funny.
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The only possible light I see at the end of the tunnel is for things to get so bad that the military will conduct a coup d etat and put America under martial law. Hopefully the dictatorship will be a enlightened one that will deport all traitors(meaning hollwood as a whole, liberals, democrats) to south america.
You've got too many active and retired military people in here to go talking about batshit crazy stuff like that. We have rules...the UCMJ...and you positng that kinda crap makes us guilty by association with what you just said.
You should put more thought into what you type before you hit send next time.
I jest- partially anyhow
No you don't. Not even partially.
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Today's Republicans could not win the presidency. There is not one of them with a backbone.
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Today's Republicans could not win the presidency. There is not one of them with a backbone.
Palin...Rubio...Cruz...Ryan...there's plenty of people on the bench that can win...that have a message people would relate to.
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Mods...because of the comments of the OP I suggest this either gets moved out of the general population or split into two threads.
IMHO someone is trolling for gotcha comments here to use against Republicans/Conservatives.
Lets not give them the pleasure.
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The Jackholes treason post not withstanding I'll answer the OP.
The GOP could win the Presidency again pretty simple. All they would have to do is quit moving to the center trying to get the Liberal and moderate vote and move back to the right. Stand up for Conservative Principles and policy. Quit trying to be all things to all people and be true to themselves. The current GOP has become Liberal lite and it just will not work. Rubio is proposing Obama's May 2011 Amnesty plan thinking it will help the GOP capture the Latino vote. There are some serious problems with that. The first being it will lose him the Conservative vote. Second the GOP will not get credit from Latino's; Obama and the DNC will. Third there is not way the Latinos will vote for the GOP because the GOP used to stand for responsibility and most illegals are low skill, low education freeloaders that want nothing to do with responsibility.
For the GOP to win another Presidency they need to move back right and stick to their convictions. They just compromised again today signing this dumbass unlimited debt ceiling increase.
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Palin...Rubio...Cruz...Ryan...there's plenty of people on the bench that can win...that have a message people would relate to.
I disagree. They will NOT have any messages to make people change their philosophies. The people who believe in them don't need to be changed.
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I disagree. They will NOT have any messages to make people change their philosophies. The people who believe in them don't need to be changed.
Really? What makes you think that? ANy of them would have been a better choice than Romney.
And they all scare the hell outta the Libs and the MSM...you can tell by how visciously they are attacked inthe media.
They've got the message that will win with voters...the trick is getting it past the MSM firewall.
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That's what I believe, Tx.
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That's what I believe, Tx.
Well to each their own I guess.
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Today's Republicans could not win the presidency. There is not one of them with a backbone.
I thought Patraeus would have been a good candidate......oops!
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The RNC has a survey website up asking for suggestions
I gave them all my ideas on how they could improve :blah:
http://growthopp.gop.com/survey.aspx
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The RNC has a survey website up asking for suggestions
I gave them all my ideas on how they could improve :blah:
http://growthopp.gop.com/survey.aspx
I have done such things but the only reply I ever got was a request for money I'm now a Constitution party member. :-)
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I thought Patraeus would have been a good candidate......oops!
He can run as a dem.
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I thought Patraeus would have been a good candidate......oops!
And to think, you started off here with such promise...
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I have done such things but the only reply I ever got was a request for money I'm now a Constitution party member. :-)
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Been there, done that.
I pretty much gave up on the GOP long ago. Until they figure out that running as "DemLite" is NOT a good idea, and go about rededicating themselves to Constitutional government, they will continue to lose. Problem is, the longer the Dems keep winning, the worse things get. I'd say its about time the GOP got their collective :censored: together and win an election, before it no longer matters.
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Been there, done that.
I pretty much gave up on the GOP long ago. Until they figure out that running as "DemLite" is NOT a good idea, and go about rededicating themselves to Constitutional government, they will continue to lose. Problem is, the longer the Dems keep winning, the worse things get. I'd say its about time the GOP got their collective :censored: together and win an election, before it no longer matters.
At some point, the state/local level conservative groundswells that brought us 2010 is going to hit critical mass. When it does, the country club elite will be a thing of the past.
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He can run as a dem.
A wet dream.