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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 20, 2013, 03:34:56 PM
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Is the primitives’ fear of moles on Skins’s island justified?
Of course there’s moles among the primitives, just as there’s moles probably everywhere else in the world, in probably all human interaction, surreptitiously burrowing into things.
Before I go any further, I have to explain something; there’s a difference between a “troll†and a “mole.â€
Nobody on any side of the aisle cares for trolls, who exist merely to disrupt, to cause trouble.
Moles however are a different sort of thing; they merely wish to blend in, causing no disturbance at all, and gain whatever they can from what they see while looking around.
I dunno how many presences franksolich has had on Skins’s island, since circa mid-2002 (my presence before then was as a troll, never a mole, but as a troll I proved abysmal, and so gave it up); surely more than a dozen and a half over the years, many of whom did not last long.
Somewhere along the way, I finally got the idea; franksolich’s talents lay in being a mole, not a troll.
My longest-surviving mole is from the time poor stupid Beth ran her really stupid scam, and a bona fide long-time member of Skins’s island, disgusted with the whole bit, the way Beth was making Skins’s island the laughingstock of the internet, handed over its high post-count persona to me, and I assume (without knowing for sure), going on to create a new presence for itself.
There’s a couple, three, four, other moles facading franksolich, but they’re much newer and far less active; in fact, at the risk of giving too much information, none of them has been around Skins’s island since last summer.
Moling is high-stress, causing much convulsion and gastric discombobulation, and I’ve always been nervous, on edge, when doing it. When one’s on hostile terrain, one becomes very conservative, very cautious, being careful to stay within sharply-limited boundaries so as to not cause suspicion.
I’ve always moled from a computer not this one, and from places with different internet service providers than my own. And so as to not excite interest, I’ve never used any of the features of Skins’s island, such as “search†or looking up a member. And the mole stays away from the cooking and baking forum, and avoids the closed meta forum as much as possible, so that back out here in real life, I don’t unwittingly betray that I’ve been moling. Also, any mole I use tends to shun primitives prominently featured here in the DUmpster.
The sparkling old dude or Atman, for example, wouldn’t know franksolich’s mole from Adam, because franksolich’s mole assiduously avoids them when on Skins’s island. But again, at the risk of giving too much information, a long time ago, the mineral oil primitive, Mineral Man, almost nabbed my prize mole, but it pleased God that I narrowly escaped the snare.
The last thing a mole wants is attention; there was one time a couple of years (or more) ago that my mole posted what seemed to me a fairly innocuous, even boring, topic, about abortion. But for reasons still unfigured-out by me, the campfire attracted a lot of attention, the primitives rolling and writhing in frenzied ecstasy, in unfettered joy and moaning orgasm.
Ooops. After that, I sharply pulled in the reins.
franksolich’s moles exist simply for the purpose of gathering information, collecting data, on the primitives, much as a professional anthropologist observes hidden behind the bushes.
And as such, I think the primitives’ paranoia about moles is exaggerated, out of line. Most moles are just quietly minding their own business, causing no trouble at all. I fail to see why the primitives are so worried.
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Most moles are just quietly minding their own business, causing no trouble at all. I fail to see why the primitives are so worried.
One of the things they hate most is the sure knowledge that their "juries" and their "MIRT" liquidation squad are both thoroughly infested with quietly serving moles.
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Let me answer that poll with three words: I am Skinner. :-)
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All one has to do is spend a little time in The DUmpster to see the extent of their infestation.
Oh, and hello to any of you lurking primitives, too. :pervert: :pervert: :asshat: :nutkick:
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I've served on many juries.
They have reason to be concerned. Moles are everywhere. :yahoo:
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Whoa.
I wasn't aware that lurkers can't see poll results; I thought it was public, but apparently not.
Too bad for the primitives.
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I mole every day,the idiots will never figure it out and I am on juries all the time...suck on it DUmbasses.
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Voted yes, the paranoia's way overblown.
There is absolutely nothing too worry about, your juries and MIRT are completely safe. :whistling:
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I want to know why I've been on so many juries if there are hundreds of thousands of registered members at DU.
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I am civic minded and believe it is my civic responsibility to fulfill jury duty :naughty:
I mole, but I also troll on a low level...just enough to give the DUmmies heartburn but I have not had a single post hidden.
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I want to know why I've been on so many juries if there are hundreds of thousands of registered members at DU.
hundreds of primitives, thousands of moles.
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hundreds of primitives, thousands of moles.
My favorite moling activity is complaining about trolls. :lmao:
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My favorite moling activity is complaining about trolls. :lmao:
Yeah, that's a lot easier way to rack up the posts, rather than sticking with the Poor Stupid Beth approach of LOL this and LOL that. :popcorn:
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no, the primitives have good reason to be concerned
Their jury system is compromised. It's hard to get a fair trial.
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Their jury system is compromised. It's hard to get a fair trial.
My poor mole has only served a couple times. Sad really.
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My poor mole has only served a couple times. Sad really.
Your mole need to propagate. I've had two moles on the same jury. One voted to hide it and one voted to let it be.
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Your mole need to propagate. I've had two moles on the same jury. One voted to hide it and one voted to let it be.
:lol: :yahoo:
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I wouldn't know ~~ I was banned from the DU :whistling:
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I wouldn't know ~~ I was banned from the DU :whistling:
Only once? My trolls have been banned three times. My moles, never. Keep trying. :popcorn:
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Option 5 all the way! FEAR THE MOLES, DUmmtards!!!
:evillaugh:
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I also had to pick number 5.
Just think about it. They've got a mole, who I'll only call Pubber because I told him I wouldn't use his mole name, with over 50,000 posts. Before Pubber and I had the falling out he used to email me every couple of days laughing at how impotent and ignorant they are.
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I voted no, it's not as if moles are all over MIRT:
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I have only been on a few juries and my mole lays low for months at a time. I guess you could say I am not a great mole because I tend to argue with some of the OPS but only just enough to get the fire going even more. Or maybe I am a great mole and just don't know it.
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I had a 2+ year mole. It was fun.
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I wanted to throw a little deception their way, and select Option 1, but I thought about it, and DAT convinced me that Option 5 was the way to go.
Just as a sidebar to this, deception is a strong weapon against the DUmb****s, and the Left in general.
Oh--BTW, I could never mole . . . :whistling: :tongue:
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I have several moles, 2 moderately active, 1 extremely active. All have far exceeded 5k posts, serve on juries, members of MIRT, 1 a former Host. They post mostly innocuous subjects and in places like the Lounge, C&B, other minor forums. The active one is all over LBN and GD agreeing heartily with the latest drama in long prose with flowery detail. It's turned into a creative writing exercise.
I said they had reason to be paranoid only because if they think they have reason to be paranoid they're ignorant enough to reap the benefits of paranoia.
I've edited to say that all these moles joined years ago. Most joined before I ever knew about CU (learned of CU from a Yahoo user named GoreBites), much less CC. It was just something I did to pass time when bored. I didn't even know the terminology for what I was doing at first.
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What ever happened to gore_bites? It's been ages since I've seen him.
You guys have braver moles than I do; mine are very conscientious about not causing any ripples.
Of course, I'm reasonably assuming that my fellow alum Skins and the elusive enigmatic Elad know who my moles are, and have known for a very long time. But as I don't cause them any grief, they leave my moles alone.
Lord Marblehead EarlG couldn't find my moles even with a road-map--God knows, I've given him plenty of clues over the past few years, but it's a dangerous game. It's always best to assume the other guy's smarter than oneself, even if it's not true.
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The primitives shouldn't be concerned at all, and should just forget any of us are 'there'.
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What ever happened to gore_bites? It's been ages since I've seen him.
I don't know. I think I recall seeing the user name on the current Yahoo sites, but it's been some months ago. He invited me to CU on the old Yahoo. He was very good at handling the Yahooligan moonbats.
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The primitives shouldn't be concerned at all, and should just forget any of us are 'there'.
Agreed! Let's not get their little minds worried about moles!
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It does seem that many in the CC family so enjoy living a double life. So we cannot all be 007 but the idea of sneaking into the enemy's camp and spreading misinformation is more fun then yelling Fire in a crowed movie theater.
Being a secrete agent can be much fun, safe and secure, get outted and come back wearing another hat. No worry about being shot or end up like real life spy's.
Justified, you betcha , never know when one can turn an enemy into a friend and get them to spy on their former friends.
Wondering about this former DU guy, could he be a double agent ?????? You know the cave has its Agents as does the DU, one never knows.
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It does seem that many in the CC family so enjoy living a double life. So we cannot all be 007 but the idea of sneaking into the enemy's camp and spreading misinformation is more fun then yelling Fire in a crowed movie theater.
Being a secrete agent can be much fun, safe and secure, get outted and come back wearing another hat. No worry about being shot or end up like real life spy's.
Justified, you betcha , never know when one can turn an enemy into a friend and get them to spy on their former friends.
Wondering about this former DU guy, could he be a double agent ?????? You know the cave has its Agents as does the DU, one never knows.
The key to your question is in your response, vesta.
CC has secret agents.
DU has secrete agents. They come around, shit all over the place, then leave. They're easy to spot, and not secret at all.
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The key to your question is in your response, vesta.
CC has secret agents.
DU has secrete agents. They come around, shit all over the place, then leave. They're easy to spot, and not secret at all.
I don't give a red rat's ass if they are here. Their dedication to group think is their Achilles Heel. Since we don't have juries or MILF teams, what harm can they do?
On a related subject, if one were to want to mole, should you go to the trouble of masking your ISP? If so, what is the best way to do that?
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On a related subject, if one were to want to mole, should you go to the trouble of masking your ISP? If so, what is the best way to do that?
Abso-effin'-lutely.
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Abso-effin'-lutely.
I think that we need a 101 class for this.
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I don't give a red rat's ass if they are here. Their dedication to group think is their Achilles Heel. Since we don't have juries or MILF teams, what harm can they do?
On a related subject, if one were to want to mole, should you go to the trouble of masking your ISP? If so, what is the best way to do that?
Excuse me...YES you do. :rant:
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Excuse me...YES you do. :rant:
I was going to say that. :thatsright: You're the captain . . . O-)
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I was going to say that. :thatsright: You're the captain . . . O-)
FAIL!!!
:tongue:
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The bigger question is, what is the percentage of DU'ers that are moles.
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The bigger question is, what is the percentage of DU'ers that are moles.
60/40 moles. :whistling:
SWAG.
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60/40 moles. :whistling:
SWAG.
That is a lot of moles at DU.