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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on January 07, 2013, 04:52:48 PM
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Mon Jan 7, 2013, 04:56 PM
warrior1 (8,558 posts)
Wendy’s Franchise Cuts Employee Hours To Part-Time To Avoid Obamacare
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/01/07/1409841/wendys-obamacare/
Not long after the owner of the Olive Garden and Red Lobster chains admitted their anti-Obamacare campaigns hurt more than helped, the owner of a Wendy’s franchise in Omaha, Nebraska plans to cut 300 employees’ hours to part-time to avoid providing them with health care coverage.
By moving workers to part-time status in order to avoid paying for their health benefits, the Wendy’s franchise would shift the costs of insurance coverage onto hundreds of employees:
The company has announced that all non-management positions will have their hours reduced to 28 a week. Gary Burdette, vice president of operations for the local franchise, says the cuts are coming because the new Affordable Health Care Act requires employers to offer health insurance to employees working 32-38 hours a week. Under the current law they are not considered full time and that as a small business owner, he can’t afford to stay in operation and pay for everyone’s health insurance.
But anecdotal evidence suggests this strategy may backfire on the Omaha Wendy’s operations. This fall, Denny’s quickly distanced itself from a franchisee’s similar ploy, while Darden Restaurants saw a sharp 37 percent drop in profit after threatening to cut workers to part-time.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022150312#post7
Response to warrior1 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:00 PM
SoCalMusicLover (235 posts)
3. I Hope Word Gets Out About This Location
Maybe when their business drops off, they can find some excuse to blame it on.
Most of us check up on employee benefits when we decide where to buy a cheeseburger.
This DUmbass sounds like the monkey who was shocked that his takehome pay is going down:
Response to warrior1 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:01 PM
leftstreet (21,639 posts)
4. Why didn't Obamacare address this?
no one could have predicted...
A troll chimes in:
Response to warrior1 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:29 PM
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav (55 posts)
11. There may be several thousand companies planning on doing this that we haven't heard
about. If they all start doing it, we obviously can't boycott them all and cutting employee hours could be the final nail in the coffin of the economy. This could get really ugly if minimum wage workers are forced to pay hundreds of dollars a month out of their own 28 hour a week pay checks.
Does anyone know if there was a back up plan for this situation?
Response to DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav (Reply #11)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:41 PM
Ikonoklast (20,494 posts)
12. Yes, the businesses that have been doing it then see that their help quits in droves,
leaving the dumbass employer up shit creek without a paddle.
They then have to do an emergency hire to fill the vacant slots, all the while losing business as their service goes down the tubes.
Many quietly rescind their public bloviating soon after discovering they just shot themselves in the foot.
Some had to do it publicly, like Darden.
But, keep up with the Concern Posting!
I see you are totally ignorant of the provisions of the ACA and where low-income employees fall under the provisions of that law.
No one making minimum wage will have to pay 'hundreds of dollars a month' out of their paychecks for health care.
Let me get this straight.
Fast food workers are quitting in droves, in the jaws of a moribund democrat socialist economy, because their boss isn't paying for insurance they never had in the first place?
Some may quit when their hours are reduced, but they're minimum wage people for a reason - they're very easily replaced.
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I don't see what the DUmmies are complaining about. If the part time workers get cut to 28 hours a week, that leaves them plenty of time to get another part time job working 28 hours a week somewhere else.
Hell, lots of people with full time jobs work part time jobs to make their lives better.
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Franchise owners will make their own choices. I see no reason why some feel the need to announce to the public what they're doing, like this Wendy's guy in Omaha. Just do it and be done with it. If employees ask what's up, it's an economic decision based upon sales, overhead costs, etc... which it is. Don't even mention healthcare.
The ones who'll mainly fly under the radar will be small Mom & Pop businesses. Lots of employees cut back to part time and no publicity.
Do kooks need to hear the effects their legislation is having on employees? Sure they do. But they'll hear it from others on the rare occasions they step out of the basement and will carry it back to the hive.
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Franchise owners will make their own choices. I see no reason why some feel the need to announce to the public what they're doing, like this Wendy's guy in Omaha. Just do it and be done with it. If employees ask what's up, it's an economic decision based upon sales, overhead costs, etc... which it is. Don't even mention healthcare.
The ones who'll mainly fly under the radar will be small Mom & Pop businesses. Lots of employees cut back to part time and no publicity.
Do kooks need to hear the effects their legislation is having on employees? Sure they do. But they'll hear it from others on the rare occasions they step out of the basement and will carry it back to the hive.
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It's shouldn't affect Mom & Pop businesses as you have to have 50 employees before fines kick in.
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Response to DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav (Reply #11)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:41 PM
Ikonoklast (20,494 posts)
12. Yes, the businesses that have been doing it then see that their help quits in droves,
leaving the dumbass employer up shit creek without a paddle.
They then have to do an emergency hire to fill the vacant slots, all the while losing business as their service goes down the tubes.
Pfhahaha! Uh...no, butterball...That's not the way it works. People aren't going to "quit in droves"...They'll simply suck up the less hours and watch their standard of living plummet. If they did quit, there would be a plethora of available workers to take their places.
Apparently you haven't been privy to the job market recently. I suggest putting down the bag of Cool Ranch Doritos and waking the f up. Thanks to continued 8% unemployment, it's an employers market. And AbominationCare will add to that figure in the coming years, not decrease it, as employers will deftly fall under the minimum threshold of 50 full time employees in order to keep their costs contained.
You can't learn this from reading the mindless, anti-Capitalist drivel on DU. Sorry. :(
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It's shouldn't affect Mom & Pop businesses as you have to have 50 employees before fines kick in.
I'm aware of that. I define Mom & Pop as anyone who owns and operates their own business, and I know plenty of privately held businesses that employ 51-1000 individuals.
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I'm aware of that. I define Mom & Pop as anyone who owns and operates their own business, and I know plenty of privately held businesses that employ 51-1000 individuals.
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I see, I had always defined Mom & Pop as smaller. But I see your point.
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Pfhahaha! Uh...no, butterball...That's not the way it works. People aren't going to "quit in droves"...They'll simply suck up the less hours and watch their standard of living plummet. If they did quit, there would be a plethora of available workers to take their places.
Apparently you haven't been privy to the job market recently. I suggest putting down the bag of Cool Ranch Doritos and waking the f up. Thanks to continued 8% unemployment, it's an employers market. And AbominationCare will add to that figure in the coming years, not decrease it, as employers will deftly fall under the minimum threshold of 50 full time employees in order to keep their costs contained.
You can't learn this from reading the mindless, anti-Capitalist drivel on DU. Sorry. :(
Watch out! The very suggestion that business owners are aware of how to use the system to position themselves rather than falling in line with what the libs intended to happen will completely rock their world.
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Hey DUmbasses:
The "Socialists Dream Act of 2010" is working exactly as it was designed. You mindless idiots should be rejoicing! Every contraction and every wail from the agony is just another labor pain in the birth of Single-Payer Socialized Medicine for the once-mighty United States of America.
I will never understand why the commie/socialist/democrats want to destroy the piggy bank whose success and prosperity has made the spread of socialism possible in so many of their cherished "civilized" countries. It doesn't make any sense.
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Watch out! The very suggestion that business owners are aware of how to use the system to position themselves rather than falling in line with what the libs intended to happen will completely rock their world.
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Actually, I think this is exactly what the libs intended. That's why for larger businesses they made the penalty crumbs compared to what it actually cost a business to provide insurance. What they want to happen is more people to be dependent on the government, and this is what will happen.
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Hey DUmbasses:
The "Socialists Dream Act of 2010" is working exactly as it was designed. You mindless idiots should be rejoicing! Every contraction and every wail from the agony is just another labor pain in the birth of Single-Payer Socialized Medicine for the once-mighty United States of America.
I will never understand why the commie/socialist/democrats want to destroy the piggy bank whose success and prosperity has made the spread of socialism possible in so many of their cherished "civilized" countries. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaking of DREAM, Obama sure helped American citizens by allowing more illegal immigrants begin working above the table with his DREAM executive order.
4-5 illegals working part time jobs and sharing rent in one house can still afford to send money back to Mexico. They'll get free health care on top of that and won't be force to buy into ObamaCare or pay the fine since they aren't citizens.
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I don't see what the DUmmies are complaining about. If the part time workers get cut to 28 hours a week, that leaves them plenty of time to get another part time job working 28 hours a week somewhere else.
Hell, lots of people with full time jobs work part time jobs to make their lives better.
This post, friends, crystallizes the difference between Us and Them almost perfectly. They piss and moan about 28 hours. We realize we have a chance at 56.
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This post, friends, crystallizes the difference between Us and Them almost perfectly. They piss and moan about 28 hours. We realize we have a chance at 56.
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You beat me. I'm sitting here thinking; I'm self employed and work more than 56 hours every single week. If I was working one of those jobs I would now have TWO jobs. It would be easy to find another since a DUmmie vacated one because of political reasons.
KC
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You beat me. I'm sitting here thinking; I'm self employed and work more than 56 hours every single week. If I was working one of those jobs I would now have TWO jobs. It would be easy to find another since a DUmmie vacated one because of political reasons.
KC
Yes, but you're thinking like someone who can work with what life throws at them, and not thinking like a DUer. People are supposed to get stuff for "free" from greedy employers. That's their overall intent; the ultimate real life consequences don't matter.
As with every liberal pipe dream, when reality paves that road to hell with good intentions, they're left standing there saying, "Hey...whut happened?"
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leftstreet (21,639 posts)
4. Why didn't Obamacare address this?
no one could have predicted...
The road primitive has to be joking.
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Looks like someone read what was in the bill and used it to their advantage.
And frankly, Olive Garden sucks. Took Scoobie there the other night. HORRIBLE service, food was at best marginal. Reminded me why I don't go there.
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Watch out! The very suggestion that business owners are aware of how to use the system to position themselves rather than falling in line with what the libs intended to happen will completely rock their world.
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Indeed..."Business owners aren't smart! They're just LUCKY!...You didn't build that!"
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Indeed..."Business owners aren't smart! They're just LUCKY!...You didn't build that!"
Yep they won life's lottery.
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Response to warrior1 (Original post)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:01 PM
leftstreet (21,639 posts)
4. Why didn't Obamacare address this?
Yeah, because coercion and political blackmail are the names of the game, huh? Liberalism: Ideas do good they gave to be legislated and brutally enforced.
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I don't see what the DUmmies are complaining about. If the part time workers get cut to 28 hours a week, that leaves them plenty of time to get another part time job working 28 hours a week somewhere else.
Hell, lots of people with full time jobs work part time jobs to make their lives better.
One does not need to look back too far in the DU archive to discover that the notion of a 28 hour work week was once applauded. DUmpmonkeys once believed that less hours would make for more productive workers, and the remaining hours could be scooped up by the unemployed, and all of the glory would then go to Obama.
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One does not need to look back too far in the DU archive to discover that the notion of a 28 hour work week was once applauded. DUmpmonkeys once believed that less hours would make for more productive workers, and the remaining hours could be scooped up by the unemployed, and all of the glory would then go to Obama.
You forget,their 4 day,28 hour work week dream comes with full time pay and benefits.
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You forget,their 4 day,28 hour work week dream comes with full time pay and benefits.
...and six weeks of paid vacation.
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Some business owners don't have to worry about Barry's care because many are paying under the table.
We insure a number of "nail salons". After a two day blackout during Sandy, one called us to see if he had "business interruption insurance". We asked how many employees he had on the payroll, he said none they were all "paid under the table".
Sorry no proof no insurance.
This way he get's around taxes and BarryCare. :whatever:
I wonder how many DUmmies are doing this at "their" jobs. :lmao:
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Paraphrasing Nancy P., "We have to pass it to find out how badly it phucks over everyone." .....and DUmmies, that's you.
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I wonder how many DUmmies are doing this at "their" jobs.
DUmp democrats don't take payments under the table.
Food stamps and welfare are above board.
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Actually, I think this is exactly what the libs intended. That's why for larger businesses they made the penalty crumbs compared to what it actually cost a business to provide insurance. What they want to happen is more people to be dependent on the government, and this is what will happen.
Yes, it is a path to single-payor Gubmint insurance, because the ACA is actually impossible to successfully implement and run as passed. When it turns out next year that medical coverage has not improved but prices have skyrocketed, the mob will be clamoring for an even-more-Government-run replacement.
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Yes, it is a path to single-payor Gubmint insurance, because the ACA is actually impossible to successfully implement and run as passed. When it turns out next year that medical coverage has not improved but prices have skyrocketed, the mob will be clamoring for an even-more-Government-run replacement.
It also served its other purpose...to buy the votes in 2012 of a bunch of air headed,entitled 20 something year olds that think getting free birth control is more important then a growing economy. :censored:
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They know businesses are going to do this, they've known all along. What really pisses them off are the businesses that publicly state the reason, because it makes Teh Messiah look bad.
Ikonoklast (20,494 posts)
12. Yes, the businesses that have been doing it then see that their help quits in droves,
leaving the dumbass employer up shit creek without a paddle.
Who do you think is going to absorb all those "droves" of newly unemployed, dumbass? The businesses willing to suck up the financial losses aren't going to have enough positions to hire them all, or even a significant number. They're not gong anywhere.
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This is what happens when you pass the bill before knowing whats in it first. And the best part is Rethuglikkkans can't be blamed. They were barred from the entire process.
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Back in the summer before the election, I noticed a shift. The dems knew Obamacare was going to be hung around their necks, so they embraced it. Rah-rahed it up, said it was the greatest thing evah. If some dopey people made the impression on other dopey people, that it was freeeeeee health care, compliments of obama's stash, they weren't corrected.
I had a thought. Remember that obamaphone creature from Cleveland? Do you think she can navigate her way around this law? Know the right thing to do, when to do it, and what form to file? What a disaster to heap upon a nation of idiots who really do believe everything should be free from Unka Sugar.
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This is what happens when you pass the bill before knowing whats in it first. And the best part is Rethuglikkkans can't be blamed. They were barred from the entire process.
Can't be blamed and will not be blamed are two different things.