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Title: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: Freeper on December 15, 2012, 09:11:24 PM
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NPolitics1979 (30 posts)

Repeal the 2nd Amendent


 
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The Amendment was written over 200 years ago by privileged white guys that owned slaves who were unwilling to foresee the number of gun violence tragedies our country is facing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251263344

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whistler162 (5,115 posts)
8. No it wasn't written over 300 years ago.

and yes it is important if you are making a argument for or against something to get the information you are using correct!

Let's see 300 years ago would have been 1712, to be over 300 years it would have had to be written earlier than 1712. I guess it sat in Madison's desk until 1787.

 :-)
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: Airwolf on December 15, 2012, 09:26:15 PM
Somebody took their brains out of their skulls and played baseball with them.
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: Skul on December 15, 2012, 09:59:31 PM
It got fixed.
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This DUmpmonkey gets close to a pizza.
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Response to rock (Reply #3)
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:47 AM
 Hoyt (9,769 posts)
4. Agree. Tough restrictions need to be imposed through Courts and Congress. More importantly
we need to change our view of guns and those who love/abuse them. 
Hollywood first. Biggest enabler the world has ever seen.

Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: Delmar on December 15, 2012, 10:02:58 PM
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Response to Recursion (Reply #1)Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:39 PM
 CTyankee (31,992 posts)
10. Why don't we look to other modern constitutional democracies to see how they

handle gun ownership/rights and model ours accordingly?
Our second amendment is incredibly anachronistic and inconsistent with our modern society's needs in order to function properly. Obvously something is terribly wrong when you have a society that has to put up with mass murders of its citizens in the name of a "right" of the "people." Plus, it doesn't make sense.

Why don't you look to other modern constitutional democracies to see how they handle gun ownership and then move to one that you find more to your liking, CTyankee?
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: txradioguy on December 16, 2012, 04:48:57 AM
Umm yeah DUmmies just one small problem with your "plan".

It take 2/3rds of the states to vote in favor of approving or repealing an amendment.

And right now 30 states have Republican governors and almost as mane have majorities in their state houses as well.

Do the math...you lose.

And let's not forget either that the recent Heller decision doesn't bode well for your gun grabbing dreams either.
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 16, 2012, 06:19:42 AM
Umm yeah DUmmies just one small problem with your "plan".

It take 2/3rds of the states to vote in favor of approving or repealing an amendment.

And right now 30 states have Republican governors and almost as mane have majorities in their state houses as well.

Do the math...you lose.

And let's not forget either that the recent Heller decision doesn't bode well for your gun grabbing dreams either.

I'm pretty sure they mean: by executive order.
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on December 16, 2012, 06:42:52 AM
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Obvously something is terribly wrong when you have a society that has to put up with mass murders of its citizens

Sure is.  It's called the Church of Liberal Progressive Fundamentalism.  Tell me, Reverend: How many murders were committed, in the last 24 hrs, in the name of a right?  How many partial birth murders?

Something must be done about hemostats and foreceps, I mean, Mother of Gaia!  These are tools of death, right?

Oh.  No.   They're just tools, aren't they?  Inanimate objects that to one medical professional are tools that may save a life, but in the hands of another, commit murder.

Carry on, Idiot.
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: Randy on December 16, 2012, 07:08:41 AM
I'm pretty sure they mean: by executive order.

I think they'll take it this way if they have to but they'd deep down really prefer it to be by dictator decree.
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: Splashdown on December 16, 2012, 09:30:55 AM
Umm yeah DUmmies just one small problem with your "plan".

It take 2/3rds of the states to vote in favor of approving or repealing an amendment.

And right now 30 states have Republican governors and almost as mane have majorities in their state houses as well.

Do the math...you lose.

And let's not forget either that the recent Heller decision doesn't bode well for your gun grabbing dreams either.

Or a 2/3 majority of the senate to approve that UN treaty, which would have the same weight as a constitutional amendment.

That scares the piss out of me.
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: diesel driver on December 16, 2012, 10:04:32 AM
Somebody took their brains out of their skulls and played baseball with them.

They didn't need to remove the brain first.  You can play baseball with them just as well with the skull as without. 

I'm pretty sure they mean: by executive order.

Sure they do, which is exactly why those "privileged white guys that owned slaves" meant for the population to have guns.

Sure is.  It's called the Church of Liberal Progressive Fundamentalism.  Tell me, Reverend: How many murders were committed, in the last 24 hrs, in the name of a right?  How many partial birth murders?

Something must be done about hemostats and foreceps, I mean, Mother of Gaia!  These are tools of death, right?

Oh.  No.   They're just tools, aren't they?  Inanimate objects that to one medical professional are tools that may save a life, but in the hands of another, commit murder.

Carry on, Idiot.

You can kill a person with a shovel, Craftsmantm wrench, pocket knife, or whateverthehellicangetmyhandson just as easily as with a gun, although it is easier to do at 300 yards with a gun than with a wrench.  DUmmies are morons, and yes, that is offensive to morons.

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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:47 AM
Hoyt (9,769 posts)
4. Agree. Tough restrictions need to be imposed through Courts and Congress.

No need.  Just look at Chicago, Detroit, L.A., NYC, Portland, Connecticut, and other blue-run shitholes that have just such restrictions, and see how they are doing.  Much easier than having "Courts and Congress" do it.

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More importantly we need to change our view of guns and those who love/abuse them.

Yes, YOU do. 
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: AprilRazz on December 16, 2012, 12:37:31 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/16/florida-man-accused-killing-neighbor-with-hammer/?test=latestnews

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Florida man accused of killing neighbor with a hammer

Published December 16, 2012

| Associated Press

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THONOTOSASSA, Fla. –  A Tampa-Bay area man who authorities say attacked his neighbor with a hammer has been charged with second degree murder with a weapon.

A Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office press release says 28-year-old Jarrett Kyle Brooks was booked into jail late Saturday. It was not immediately known if he has an attorney.

Authorities say Brooks approached Jonathan Acree from behind at a Thonotosassa trailer park, striking him in the head and neck multiple times with a hammer.

Acree was pronounced dead at the hospital.
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: Big Dog on December 16, 2012, 01:32:09 PM
Florida man accused of killing neighbor with a hammer

When hammers are outlawed, only outlaws will have hammers.

You can have my hammer, when you pry it from my cold dead hand!

God made men. Ace Hardware made them equal.

First rule of hammer fighting: Bring a hammer.

Teddy Kennedy's car has killed more people than my hammer.

Hammer control means not hitting your thumb.

Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: txradioguy on December 17, 2012, 12:19:45 AM
Or a 2/3 majority of the senate to approve that UN treaty, which would have the same weight as a constitutional amendment.

That scares the piss out of me.

Me too.  Good point.
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: diesel driver on December 17, 2012, 03:16:46 AM
When hammers are outlawed, only outlaws will have hammers.

You can have my hammer, when you pry it from my cold dead hand!

God made men. Ace Hardware Plumb made them equal.

First rule of hammer fighting: Bring a hammer.

Teddy Kennedy's car has killed more people than my hammer.

Hammer control means not hitting your thumb.



Ace just sells them.   :-)
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: Wineslob on December 17, 2012, 09:33:57 AM
Actually, we need to outlaw cars:


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The statistic is one every 28-30 minutes. 2 people die every hour. On average, 48 people die everyday. On holidays such as New Years, or Christmas, the average goes up to almost double that. In Texas, the record stands around 170 people in a single 24 hour period on a weekend.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_die_every_hour_because_of_drunk_drivers
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: DefiantSix on December 17, 2012, 09:39:25 AM
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Response to Recursion (Reply #1)Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:39 PM
 CTyankee (31,992 posts)
10. Why don't we look to other modern constitutional democracies to see how they

handle gun ownership/rights and model ours accordingly? Our second amendment is incredibly anachronistic and inconsistent with our modern society's needs in order to function properly. Obvously something is terribly wrong when you have a society that has to put up with mass murders of its citizens in the name of a "right" of the "people." Plus, it doesn't make sense.

Because if you did, you'd be looking at the wrong model. Again.  The United States was established as a REPUBLIC - where even a 99% (which you don't even come close to having, mouth breather) majority have no right/authority to trample the rights of the minority - not a DEMOCRACY (Constitutional or otherwise). you dimwitted baffoon.
Title: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendent
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on December 17, 2012, 09:45:04 AM
Because if you did, you'd be looking at the wrong model. Again.  The United States was established as a REPUBLIC - where even a 99% (which you don't even come close to having, mouth breather) majority have no right/authority to trample the rights of the minority - not a DEMOCRACY (Constitutional or otherwise). you dimwitted baffoon.
You would think a group obsessed with LGBTHWDN#SQP%UXRZ rights would get that...