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Title: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Freeper on November 10, 2012, 08:37:58 AM
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WeekendWarrior (1,123 posts)

Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees


 
You can't blame Obamacare, nimrods. The penalties for failure to provide your employees coverage don't kick in until 2014, and if you have under 50 employees, there's no penalty at all. So how do you explain firing them now?

What petty, petty assholes you are.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251240956

Yeah because we know what experts you DUmmies are on running businesses.

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Systematic Chaos (7,883 posts)
1. Be sure to check out how the Cave ****s want us to "OWN IT!!!"

It's our fault that businesses are laying off, don't ya know? 

Well 0bama is president and for the 8 years of the Bush administration you held him responsible for every job loss that occurred, as usual you set the standard and when it is used against you, you bitch and moan.

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gravity (4,075 posts)
4. Firing over taxes makes no sense either

Don't these business owners understand that employee wages are tax deductible.


Since you know so much maybe 0bama will give you a job in the Dept of Business.  :rotf:

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EmilyAnne (2,614 posts)
5. They really aren't doing the Republicans any favors.

The average person sees these tantrums and is reminded of how much they despise most corporate executives.
Coupled with Romney's "I like firing people" line and it makes these people look cruel and petty.

My husband is the president and co-founder of a small company. He AGONIZES over things like this. He had to lay off six people in 2009 and it was awful. He knew that these were people's lives he was affecting, their dreams, their families. He had already taken a substantial pay cut the year before, along with the other executives, hoping to avoid the layoffs. I just can't believe the flippant, callous way these people are talking about lay offs. It is disgusting and immoral. Never mind that it is also a bad business practice.

They aren't trying to do anyone favors, they are trying to keep the doors open. They worked hard for what they have built, and yes DUmmies they built it, and they don't want to lose it all because of your envy, your greed, and your desire to destroy them.

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tomm2thumbs (9,010 posts)
15. 'Greed' -- it's what has f*cked up this country, and it flows from the Republican Party


Profit is one thing, but 'obscene profit' is just that

obscene

They should update obscenity laws to take care of these idiots.

Since when do you get to decide what profits people can have? I am so sick of the jealousy that consumes you idiots. You would rather destroy the entire economy than to let anyone have more than you do.

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aandegoons (67 posts)
21. They are just making it easier to tax them.

I say tax em till it hurts it's time for America to fire the self centered rich.

Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Ballygrl on November 10, 2012, 08:40:24 AM
This needs to go viral:

:ownit:
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on November 10, 2012, 08:48:14 AM
Because no one ever looks down the road and makes decisions based on the VERY FORESEEABLE future?  You people are too ****ing stupid.  You are getting exactly what you voted for.  This shit is your fault.  Own it, DUmbasses.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: wasp69 on November 10, 2012, 08:50:23 AM
This needs to go viral:

:ownit:

I agree.

:ownit:
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 10, 2012, 08:53:15 AM
 :lmao:....DUmmies can't see that they are the greediest bunch of all.....they venture nothing but their time, half heatedly at that, and want all the profits.... :lmao:

They should all go into the iron ore business.......irony is their strongest point.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: EagleKeeper on November 10, 2012, 08:56:39 AM
This needs to go viral:

:ownit:

I took the liberty to send it Ace.  :fuelfire:
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: franksolich on November 10, 2012, 09:04:45 AM
Now, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

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Systematic Chaos (7,883 posts)
 
1. Be sure to check out how the Cave ****s want us to "OWN IT!!!"

It's our fault that businesses are laying off, don't ya know?

What does the Las Vegas Leviathan care about people laid off from their jobs?

After all, it's not as if fatty's concerned about finding a job himself.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: USA4ME on November 10, 2012, 09:32:43 AM
I believe the phrase "Elections have consequences" is applicable here.  It seems the primtives only want that to go one way, from whatever Dear Leader wants to the rest of us.  But it cuts both ways.  So yeah, primitives, own it.

But look, primitives, even if you're unwilling to accept the reasons why these people are getting a pink slip, that doesn't change anything, does it?  They're still losing their jobs.  Your complaining doesn't put food on their table.  Rather than demanding the rich pay more, you really need to send a check to the US Treasury so your precious gov't can feed these people.  That's right, put your money where your mouth is.  I expect to see a thread stating your desires to do this any moment now, you being the compassionate being you claim to be.

.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Kyle Ricky on November 10, 2012, 09:35:14 AM
There have been around 20,000 layoffs over the past couple of days (since obama got re-elected) because of obamacare. Estimates are that over 2 million+ will happen throughout 2013. Raising taxes will also cause more layoffs. Although they are talking about getting more tax revenue without raising the taxes - Figure that one out you DUmptards.

From what I read about all of this; the unemployment rate will around 9% or 10% within the next four to six months. Good luck for anyone finding a job. Or at least one that has you working more than 28 hours a week.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Texacon on November 10, 2012, 09:43:49 AM
Now, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

What does the Las Vegas Leviathan care about people laid off from their jobs?

After all, it's not as if fatty's concerned about finding a job himself.

Whoa, wait a damn minute there frank.  You have to think of poor Jeanette like LL does.  He needs HER to be able to get a job!

KC
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: franksolich on November 10, 2012, 09:45:52 AM
Whoa, wait a damn minute there frank.  You have to think of poor Jeanette like LL does.  He needs HER to be able to get a job!

Ooops, I did forget that.

The Las Vegas Leviathan's worried because his meal ticket might not have a job much longer.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: wasp69 on November 10, 2012, 09:50:41 AM
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Systematic Chaos (7,883 posts)
1. Be sure to check out how the Cave ****s want us to "OWN IT!!!"

It's our fault that businesses are laying off, don't ya know?

Oh, dear, it seems as if I hit a nerve.  Kirk, thank you for helping to spread the word of my little thread to the rest of your DUmpmates. 

My dear, dead daddy used to say that when you throw a rock into the pen, the pig that squeals the loudest is usually the one that got hit.  Thank you, Kirk, for reminding me of what a simple and brilliant man he was and how often he was right.  You, Kirk, above all other DUmmies epitomize the reason why the "Own It" thread exists.  You are the very definition, the picture if you will, of a looter/moocher:  Fat, lazy, whiny, self unemployed, craven, dependent upon others for your most basic needs, and unashamed. 

You are the taker, Kirk, that does not understand (and will never care to learn) about how it is others supply your living.  You move about in your fog of self pity and greed, always demanding more with no intention of ever giving back.  On election day, the looters and moochers spoke.  The day after election day, the business owners replied.  Just because you don't see the correlation between your party's hostility to business and producers doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  Businesses see the reelection of a clueless marxist, with the blessing of his greedy electorate, as a sign that costs are going to continue to go up while wealth will be confiscated at a higher rate to be redistributed to those that have no intention of ever doing anything other than take. 

It all ties together, Kirk, whether you like it or not.  The correlation is there whether you see it or not.

My intention is to hang this current mess and the coming suffering around the fat, greasy necks of the vermin it belongs to.  Thank you for taking time to stop by.

You wanted it, you got it, you now

:ownit:
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: franksolich on November 10, 2012, 10:07:46 AM
.....You, Kirk, above all other DUmmies epitomize the reason why the "Own It" thread exists.  You are the very definition, the picture if you will, of a looter/moocher:  Fat, lazy, whiny, self unemployed, craven, dependent upon others for your most basic needs, and unashamed.  

You are the taker, Kirk, that does not understand (and will never care to learn) about how it is others supply your living.  You move about in your fog of self pity and greed, always demanding more with no intention of ever giving back.  On election day, the looters and moochers spoke.....

:ownit:

You know, though, that all might've been a waste of time, trying to explain that to fatty, who's not going to get it.

The Las Vegas Leviathan over the years several times has alleged he's possessive of an "above-average" IQ, damn near a supergenius.

Yeah, right.

:ownit:

Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Chris_ on November 10, 2012, 10:18:21 AM
The Las Vegas Leviathan over the years several times has alleged he's possessive of an "above-average" IQ, damn near a supergenius.

Yeah, right.
Really? :lmao:

I'm not seeing it.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Randy on November 10, 2012, 10:18:38 AM
You know, though, that all might've been a waste of time, trying to explain that to fatty, who's not going to get it.

The Las Vegas Leviathan over the years several times has alleged he's possessive of an "above-average" IQ, damn near a supergenius.

Yeah, right.

:ownit:




For a self proclaimed sooper jean-yes he sure is stupid.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: franksolich on November 10, 2012, 10:25:30 AM
Really? :lmao:

I'm not seeing it.

Yeah.

One time I got really pissed off here in the DUmpster, when bringing over a campfire of fatty's, where he pointed out that Jeanette is pretty bright.....but then arrogantly added, "as am I," which negated his compliment to his wife.

It's all about fatty.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Carl on November 10, 2012, 10:35:33 AM
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WeekendWarrior (1,123 posts)

Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees


 
You can't blame Obamacare, nimrods. The penalties for failure to provide your employees coverage don't kick in until 2014, and if you have under 50 employees, there's no penalty at all. So how do you explain firing them now?

What petty, petty assholes you are.


O care is only the tip of the iceberg DUmbass.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Evil_Conservative on November 10, 2012, 10:52:43 AM
FISCAL CLIFF
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 10, 2012, 10:59:48 AM

For a self proclaimed sooper jean-yes he sure is stupid.

They used to call those "Idiot sear-vants".....genius in one thing and one thing only. Stupid as hell in all other areas.

LL is only smart in the area of milking "the cow".
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 10, 2012, 11:13:12 AM
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gravity (4,075 posts)
4. Firing over taxes makes no sense either

Don't these business owners understand that employee wages are tax deductible.

4,000 odd posts on a US political forum and you have no idea at all how Obamacare, income taxes, or business accounting actually work beyond one irrelevant tidbit.  It would be humorous, if you weren't a voter.

 :hammer:
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: GOBUCKS on November 10, 2012, 11:49:37 AM
Yeah.

One time I got really pissed off here in the DUmpster, when bringing over a campfire of fatty's, where he pointed out that Jeanette is pretty bright.....but then arrogantly added, "as am I," which negated his compliment to his wife.

It's all about fatty.
Well, you have to give the lardass some credit.

Most deadbeat democrats would have said, "I be too."
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: vesta111 on November 10, 2012, 11:54:14 AM
FISCAL CLIFF

What ever happend to Government Savings Bonds.     I never did understand this stuff, when did the 401K plans usurp the Bonds ??  

From kindergarten to adult we brought in dimes and quarters to school and when we got to $18.00 we got a bond for $25.00 an increase of $7.00 over 15 years or so.  

These bonds were given for birthdays and Christmass to us kids and held until we needed them.

 Not allot of money but insured to not go down in interest. Until a few years ago every place I worked had a Bond with drawl from the pay check.  

Along comes the 401K that stopped company's from offering the bonds.   When the 401K  plan came in the company was willing to buy the bonds at face value to put into the 401K PLAN.  Not a good idea for those only a year from getting full payment.

Here's the kicker, few were told they did not have to turn in their bonds to apply for a 401K,   they had no idea they could still buy bonds but on their own at banks.  just because the company no longer with drew from a pay check for bonds did not mean they could not get into a 401K plan.

401K's held the turned in bonds, sold them for top money and made a fortune.  It took me a while to catch  on to this, it takes a big education to understand finance.  

So now the 401K is the plan to go to for retirement, great, but one can loose 6-8,000 bucks in any quarter.  We have no control over the stock market if one puts money in a savings account the bank is going to charge you service charges to bring your interest down to 1% or lower.

One good thing about bonds, pay $18 bucks for a $25.,00 dollar bond, worse comes to worse one can cash the sucker in for  gas money.   I bought my first home on bonds my grandparents had bought for years for me.  

I do not trust the stock market but I do feel that the Government bonds will be there unless the country goes to hell and then why bother.



Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: jtyangel on November 10, 2012, 12:13:53 PM
Because no one ever looks down the road and makes decisions based on the VERY FORESEEABLE future?  You people are too ****ing stupid.  You are getting exactly what you voted for.  This shit is your fault.  Own it, DUmbasses.

They certainly don't do that that's why it's a foreign concept to them that people who thrive actually, oh I don't know, plan ahead?  :thatsright: ::)
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Ogre on November 10, 2012, 12:24:20 PM
Hey DUmmies, you don't wait until the storm hits to start preparing for it.  Oh wait, you're DUmb*sses so yeah you do, but intelligent people prepare ahead of time.

Let us know how that sh&t sandwich tastes, because this country is about to be served a very large one.

Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: formerlurker on November 10, 2012, 12:25:36 PM
Why on earth would any employer lay off employees out of "revenge?"     That would hurt production of whatever product/service they are selling.   They would only be hurting themselves - intentionally??

Think misfits before you type.  

Note also:   employers INVEST in their employees when they are hired - training costs money misfits.   You don't let employees go on a whim.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: J P Sousa on November 10, 2012, 12:39:41 PM
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  tomm2thumbs (9,010 posts)
15. 'Greed' -- it's what has f*cked up this country, and it flows from the Republican Party


Profit is one thing, but 'obscene profit' is just that

obscene

They should update obscenity laws to take care of these idiots.   

A committed communist but just won't admit it......
.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Dori on November 10, 2012, 12:47:19 PM
4,000 odd posts on a US political forum and you have no idea at all how Obamacare, income taxes, or business accounting actually work beyond one irrelevant tidbit.  It would be humorous, if you weren't a voter.

 :hammer:

Exactly.  They seem to think profits go into a bank account somewhere and not get "re-invested". 

Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Zeus on November 10, 2012, 12:56:52 PM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GLEDjxyt_A[/youtube]
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: MrsSmith on November 10, 2012, 01:16:24 PM
It seems to me that the entire country was well warned that lay-offs would follow the re-election of Pres. Obama.  The DUmmies truly are like toddlers...when warned about consequences, they continue their actions and then  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: when the resulting consequences appear.

What is discouraging is that over 50% of those voting are evidently not smart enough to figure out the very clear statements made by a number of business owners and CEOs before the election.  But they are the "educated, informed, intelligent" group.  Right?   :rofl:


Oh, and by the way, I heard CEOs making these same statements about lay-offs and moving overseas on NPR over and over.  The DUmmies have NO excuses.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Delmar on November 10, 2012, 04:43:02 PM
Well, you have to give the lardass some credit.

Most deadbeat democrats would have said, "I be too."

High five for I be too.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: GOP Congress on November 10, 2012, 04:50:48 PM
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EmilyAnne (2,614 posts)
5. They really aren't doing the Republicans any favors.

The average person sees these tantrums and is reminded of how much they despise most corporate executives.
Coupled with Romney's "I like firing people" line and it makes these people look cruel and petty.

My husband is the president and co-founder of a small company. He AGONIZES over things like this. He had to lay off six people in 2009 and it was awful. He knew that these were people's lives he was affecting, their dreams, their families. He had already taken a substantial pay cut the year before, along with the other executives, hoping to avoid the layoffs. I just can't believe the flippant, callous way these people are talking about lay offs. It is disgusting and immoral. Never mind that it is also a bad business practice.

If you hear about the business owners explaining WHY they are doing their cuts, most of the time you hear the fear and trembling in their voices. Invariably they usually say that they THEMSELVES are ok, but they are traumatic over what's going to happen to their employees' families, and that is their real sadness.

Of course, you wouldn't know that. You just portray them as a bunch of sneering cigar-smoking white dudes looking to take away the candy from babies to spite your Bamster. Won't cut it, dear.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: jukin on November 10, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
I predict that millions of small businesses that have fewer than 15 employees will cease to exist before the end of the year. That most companies with 60-100 employees will convert 80% of their staff to 26-28 hour weeks. Other companies that are not over 300 people will convert large numbers of staff to sub 28 hours/wk. The one size fits all tax care act just costs too much and there is too much danger of a small paperwork screw up costing a huge fine. The taxcare act is going to add dead wood to both HR and acctg for busy work to keep another bunch of bureaucrat regulators and the heavy baggage/low output support workers.

It is like forcing a $3/hour raise. For some companies that will be a 30% raise. It will make many businesses uncompetitive unless they make plans to not be under the regulations and taxes.

As to the big defense contractors, Boieng, et al. they were told by the 0bama regime to hold layoff notices until after the election even though it was against the law.


Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Tucker on November 10, 2012, 05:25:44 PM
DUmmies believe that the main purpose of a business is to provide livelihood and sustenance for the employees. The second function is to pay a hefty tax to provide for the social programs in a community. Profit is way down the list.

Their business model is buy a 1/4 pound of pot for 400. Sell three ounces at 140 each and get a free one for them self with enough extra cash to buy a jug of Ben and Jerry's, Wavy Gravy, ice cream.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Splashdown on November 10, 2012, 05:53:56 PM
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Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: miskie on November 10, 2012, 06:59:17 PM
Thanks Egads BigAssi for the plug 
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Revolution on November 10, 2012, 07:07:28 PM
This needs to go viral:

:ownit:

If Freeper doesn't mind, I'm gonna use it as my avatar as well. I think all cavers should, but I have no say in that. Just my own.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: franksolich on November 10, 2012, 07:10:48 PM
Thanks Egads BigAssi for the plug 

That's good, a play on "Ege Bamyasi," fatty's screen-name elsewhere.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Airwolf on November 10, 2012, 07:12:10 PM
So the Las Vegas lardass thinks that just because O care will not take effect in 2014 that business just needs to sit there and take it. yeah your the bright one all right. No business in there to make your life easier . Businesses are in business to make profits so that they can hire and to expand and most importantly make profits to be able to do that. You tax or regulate a business to much they close down or lay off people. That is the DU model of how to run things and that is why many businesses go down the drain. You couldn't be more ****ing retarded if you cut open your own skull and scooped those few brain cells you have out and stomped them to death.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Celtic Rose on November 10, 2012, 08:38:19 PM
Catholic organizations will soon be fined $100 per day per employee for not covering birth control.  I believe that it will begin in 2013.  You can bet that a lot of those organizations are looking at their financing and figuring out how to cover that. 
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: franksolich on November 10, 2012, 08:46:52 PM
You couldn't be more ****ing retarded if you cut open your own skull and scooped those few brain cells you have out and stomped them to death.

That is awesome, just awesome!
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: miskie on November 10, 2012, 09:25:59 PM
You couldn't be more ****ing retarded if you cut open your own skull and scooped those few brain cells you have out and stomped them to death.

You, sir - could write greeting cards for Hallmark.  :lmao: It just needs a super cute picture to go with it.  For example ;

You couldn't be more ****ing retarded
(http://www.stevecurtin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Cute-puppy.jpg)
if you cut open your own skull and scooped those few brain cells you have out
and stomped them to death.


See ? Perfect .

Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: I_B_Perky on November 10, 2012, 09:29:08 PM
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gravity (4,075 posts)
4. Firing over taxes makes no sense either

Don't these business owners understand that employee wages are tax deductible.

Stupid dummie... I'm sure they do. These business owners have already got that figured in to their margins which are probably razor thin. Maybe if we had been in a boom economy for the last four years, it might be different. But after the last four years, most businesses are hanging on by the skin of their teeth.  Now comes along more taxes, more regs, etc . Well dummie... most small business owners will look at their margin, their revenue stream, etc, and will probably decide they just can't make it and close.

I know a guy, good friend of mine, runs a small telecommunication/IT company. Got about 15 full time employees. He told me he is thinking about just shutting it down and retiring. He said it is just getting too hard to make payroll anymore. His big clients have cut back and that is affecting him. So there are 15 families that are gonna go on welfare.

I know another guy, went to high school with him, that runs a tree cutting service. Told me that if the derecho hadn't hit around here back in June and the power company hadn't hired his crews to help in tree removal, he would have had to lay off most of his crew and maybe wouldn't have survived.

I know another guy, runs a small construction company, that did close. Had that company for 25 years.

I could go on and on. You get the idea.

Consequences dummie. They matter. You wanted it, you got it, you own it. Ain't gonna be no equal outcome now. This is gonna trickle down and eventually it will affect you.

Dummies, listen to me and listen good. Hard times are coming. Really hard times. I will survive. I have before and never took a penny from the government.  Grandad and dad lived thru the great depression. Taught me a lot when times were hard back in the late 70's.

Just as an aside... I blame the election of obumble to a second term on the MSM. If they would have shown half the sob stories they did when Bush had the economy at 5.5 percent, then obumbles would never have been reelected. You know it and I know it.

I personally hope that you dummies starve to death when the hard times come. Serves you right. Darwin at work.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Airwolf on November 10, 2012, 09:36:11 PM
You, sir - could write greeting cards for Hallmark.  :lmao: It just needs a super cute picture to go with it.  For example ;

You couldn't be more ****ing retarded
(http://www.stevecurtin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Cute-puppy.jpg)
if you cut open your own skull and scooped those few brain cells you have out
and stomped them to death.


See ? Perfect .


I agree. One of the many benefits of working in the service of our country. You learn some great ways to tell people just what you think of them or the many ways to make them up.


Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Airwolf on November 10, 2012, 09:53:40 PM
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Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: franksolich on November 10, 2012, 09:55:01 PM

Wrong primitive, though.

I think the insult's meant to be directed at fatty, the Las Vegas Leviathan, rather than to the big guy.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Airwolf on November 10, 2012, 10:04:19 PM
You are right Frank but it applies to both of them.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: franksolich on November 10, 2012, 10:07:28 PM
You are right Frank but it applies to both of them.

That's true.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Evil_Conservative on November 10, 2012, 10:22:40 PM


Wrong primitive, though.

I think the insult's meant to be directed at fatty, the Las Vegas Leviathan, rather than to the big guy.

Tomatoe tomato
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: txradioguy on November 11, 2012, 05:03:06 AM
Systematic Chaos (7,883 posts)
1. Be sure to check out how the Cave ****s want us to "OWN IT!!!"[/quote]

As well you should...you voted for more of this financial shit storm we're living in.

You wanted it...you got it...now (http://www.conservativecave.com/Smileys/default/Own_it.png)



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It's our fault that businesses are laying off, don't ya know?


Lets see...you voted for someone who hasn't passed a budget in 4 years...added 6 trillion in new debt...and is going to preside over two of the largest tax increases in history...one of which is just 50 days away.

The businesses have no choice.  If you'd stayed awake or even attended your economics class you'd understand why these business owners have to do this.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: txradioguy on November 11, 2012, 05:20:37 AM
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and if you have under 50 employees, there's no penalty at all. So how do you explain firing them now?

What petty, petty assholes you are.

What an ignorant illiterate ass clown you are for not reading what the law actually says for yourself.

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Under Obamacare, companies with 50 or more full-time employees either have to provide them with government-approved health insurance policies, or pay a per-employee fine. Further, the fine kicks in at the 31st employee, not the 51st, and it starts at $2,000 per year per employee. It goes up later. Companies, therefore, are discouraged from having full-time employees, or at least 50 or more of them.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/332969/obamacare-vs-jobs-jillian-kay-melchior
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Kyle Ricky on November 11, 2012, 01:20:37 PM
obamacare doesn't take effect until 2014, but THEY START TAXING FOR IT IN JANUARY! How stupid can those fools be?
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Freeper on November 11, 2012, 01:29:59 PM
obamacare doesn't take effect until 2014, but THEY START TAXING FOR IT IN JANUARY! How stupid can those fools be?

They voted for 0bama, so pretty stupid.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Dori on November 11, 2012, 02:02:51 PM
obamacare doesn't take effect until 2014, but THEY START TAXING FOR IT IN JANUARY! How stupid can those fools be?

I thought it didn't go into full effect until 2016.  Wasn't that the complaint about the numbers, where they said that they collect on it for two years first?
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Freeper on November 11, 2012, 02:06:53 PM
I thought it didn't go into full effect until 2016.  Wasn't that the complaint about the numbers, where they said that they collect on it for two years first?


Well since we had to pass it to find out what is in it, it is confusing.

I seem to recall that parts of it started right away, parts start this year and full implementation is 2016. I could be wrong though, but I seem to recall it being that way.

Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: notaDUmmie on November 11, 2012, 02:07:23 PM
Catholic organizations will soon be fined $100 per day per employee for not covering birth control.  I believe that it will begin in 2013.  You can bet that a lot of those organizations are looking at their financing and figuring out how to cover that. 

Easy - drop the coverage completely and pay the fine.

Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Celtic Rose on November 11, 2012, 02:32:53 PM
Easy - drop the coverage completely and pay the fine.



I'm sure that some organizations are weighing the cost/benefits of that option. 
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: notaDUmmie on November 11, 2012, 02:39:16 PM
I'm sure that some organizations are weighing the cost/benefits of that option. 

Yep - and I'm not sure now they can afford not to drop the coverage.  The options are pretty clear...

1.  Keep providing coverage, including contraception, and completely compromise one of the core teachings of the Church

2.  Provide coverage but don't include contraception, and pay an annual fine of $73,000/employee

3.  Drop coverage completely and pay an annual fine of $2000/employee

Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Dori on November 11, 2012, 02:40:51 PM
Easy - drop the coverage completely and pay the fine.



If they drop the insurance and have over 50 employees, I believe the fine is $3000.  

that's what a lot of companies are toying with right now.  Many think that even the $3k is cheaper than the insurance.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: notaDUmmie on November 11, 2012, 02:45:11 PM
If they drop the insurance and have over 50 employees, I believe the fine is $3000.  

that's what a lot of companies are toying with right now.  Many think that even the $3k is cheaper than the insurance.

Thanks for the correction - much appreciated! 
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: jukin on November 11, 2012, 04:21:34 PM
Many of the taxes went into effect earlier and lots of freebies went to effect which is why premiums have been skyrocketing. I think all the taxes/penalties go into effect in 2013. Could be wrong about the personal tax/penalty. The final rift of freebies much higher premiums, and regulations kick in 2014.

Best guess now is that Obama taxcare will cost $2.1 trillion over the next ten years. $210 billion per year to insure the 15 million that were not insured. Still will be 30 million uninsured.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Rufus2010 on November 11, 2012, 06:11:26 PM
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Systematic Chaos (7,883 posts)
1. Be sure to check out how the Cave ****s want us to "OWN IT!!!"

It's our fault that businesses are laying off, don't ya know?

Take this, you fat bastard!
(http://www.conservativecave.com/Smileys/default/Own_it.png) 
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Karin on November 12, 2012, 07:49:35 AM
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dependent upon others for your most basic needs, and unashamed.
 
Even teh wiping of teh ass. 

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You are the taker, Kirk, that does not understand (and will never care to learn) about how it is others supply your living.  You move about in your fog of self pity and greed, always demanding more with no intention of ever giving back.  On election day, the looters and moochers spoke.  The day after election day, the business owners replied.  Just because you don't see the correlation between your party's hostility to business and producers doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  Businesses see the reelection of a clueless marxist, with the blessing of his greedy electorate, as a sign that costs are going to continue to go up while wealth will be confiscated at a higher rate to be redistributed to those that have no intention of ever doing anything other than take. 


Wasp, I thought this paragraph was a masterpiece.  Bravo. 
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Airwolf on November 12, 2012, 10:27:04 AM
If this country continues  to allow people to take and take and keeps over taxing the rest then be prepared for the consequences when the economy crashes and the real fun begins. Those of us that have seen it coming will probably make it but, I have it on good authority that the rest of you blood sucking ticks on the left are pretty much ****ed.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: wasp69 on November 12, 2012, 10:56:56 AM
Wasp, I thought this paragraph was a masterpiece.  Bravo. 

Thank you, Karin.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Freeper on November 12, 2012, 11:06:20 AM
If this country continues  to allow people to take and take and keeps over taxing the rest then be prepared for the consequences when the economy crashes and the real fun begins. Those of us that have seen it coming will probably make it but, I have it on good authority that the rest of you blood sucking ticks on the left are pretty much ****ed.

They won't know what hit them. They think all the warnings is nothing but RW lies. When the collapse begins they will just blame us and all republicans.

Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: J P Sousa on November 12, 2012, 03:55:27 PM
DUmmies take notice, it's not just republicans who own businesses that are laying off workers because of OBAMACARE;

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 Stryker Corporation, a Michigan-based medical device company with operations around the world, is laying off five percent of its employees in order to offset the cost of a tax passed as part of Obamacare in 2009 and scheduled to take effect in 2013.
 
http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/3700
 

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 Kalamazoo billionaire Jon Stryker is one of the top five campaign contributors to President Barack Obama, donating more than $2 million to pro-Obama Super PACs this summer.  

(break)

Stryker's grandfather founded the medical products company Stryker Corp. in Kalamazoo. Jon Stryker is worth $1.2 billion, according to Forbes Magazine.

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2012/10/jon_stryker_one_of_top_5_dono.html

DUmmies; pea brains who don't understand reality.  :-)
.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: DixieBelle on November 12, 2012, 04:04:14 PM
Jeez, stupid should hurt! If it did, there aren't enough golden skittle shitting ponies in the Obamacare legislation to stem the tide of Teh Stoopid swamping every E.R. and Free Clinic and America!
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Tucker on November 12, 2012, 04:05:44 PM
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Jon Stryker is worth $1.2 billion

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Stryker Corporation is laying off five percent of its employees

That will drive the DUmmies ballistic.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Texacon on November 12, 2012, 04:08:24 PM
I wonder if the Stryker CEO will be walking around in the parking lot looking for Romney/Ryan bumper stickers so he'll know who to lay off because they voted for the new tax ......  Wait.  Ahem.  Never mind.

KC
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: I_B_Perky on November 12, 2012, 05:34:57 PM
If this country continues  to allow people to take and take and keeps over taxing the rest then be prepared for the consequences when the economy crashes and the real fun begins. Those of us that have seen it coming will probably make it but, I have it on good authority that the rest of you blood sucking ticks on the left are pretty much ****ed.

And the dummies go: :lalala:

They got the cool dude that gives out free birth control reelected. That is all they care about. These people are so stupid they couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel.

We told them Airwolf. Now they are going to find out. Sucks to be them but they wanted it. Kinda like a child that gets warned not to touch that hot pan and does it anyway.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: diesel driver on November 12, 2012, 06:01:52 PM
And the dummies go: :lalala:

They got the cool dude that gives out free birth control reelected. That is all they care about. These people are so stupid they couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel.

We told them Airwolf. Now they are going to find out. Sucks to be them but they wanted it. Kinda like a child that gets warned not to touch that hot pan and does it anyway.

A SMART child only does it once, and has learned its lesson.

DUmmies never learn.  They just keep touching that hot pan, expecting a different result.   :hammer:
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: I_B_Perky on November 12, 2012, 06:05:52 PM
A SMART child only does it once, and has learned its lesson.

DUmmies never learn.  They just keep touching that hot pan, expecting a different result.   :hammer:

Well DD... pain is a great instructor, it teaches the lesson quite effectively. Looks like the dummies are gonna have to suffer some pain to learn. Too bad the other half of the country will too.  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: NHSparky on November 12, 2012, 06:07:02 PM
Now, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

What does the Las Vegas Leviathan care about people laid off from their jobs?

After all, it's not as if fatty's concerned about finding a job himself.

Because he knows at some point the gravy train will run dry, and he'll be forced to lose about 200 lbs if .he wants to have even the slimmest chance of survival
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: diesel driver on November 12, 2012, 06:15:43 PM
Well DD... pain is a great instructor, it teaches the lesson quite effectively. Looks like the dummies are gonna have to suffer some pain to learn. Too bad the other half of the country will too.  :cheersmate:

Well, the half that voted for the pain will get what they wanted.

The rest will just have to make do, and we will.  Tough times don't last, tough people do!

I'll throw my hat in with a Mountaineer any day, if they'll have me.  (I am an honorary citizen of WV, BTW.  I married a WV woman!)   :-*

I KNOW they will emerge victorious!!!!   :II:

So will all those that populate a state that mines or farms.  They KNOW what hard work feels like.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: NHSparky on November 12, 2012, 06:16:57 PM
Easy - drop the coverage completely and pay the fine.



I can tell you right now that's where a lot of LARGE companies are going.  Like mine.

And guess what--they ain't gonna give any sort of compensation to the employees to go find their own plan on the open market.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: I_B_Perky on November 12, 2012, 07:27:40 PM
Well, the half that voted for the pain will get what they wanted.

The rest will just have to make do, and we will.  Tough times don't last, tough people do!

I'll throw my hat in with a Mountaineer any day, if they'll have me.  (I am an honorary citizen of WV, BTW.  I married a WV woman!)   :-*

I KNOW they will emerge victorious!!!!   :II:

So will all those that populate a state that mines or farms.  They KNOW what hard work feels like.

She's from McDowell county if I remember? They grow their ladies tough as nails down in those parts. Pretty as all get out too.  :evil:

You welcome over on this side of the border anytime, DD. WV done gone and elected the most reps in the state legislature since like 1912. We are slowly throwing all the new fangled lib dems out of the state gummint.  I predict that by the next election when all the coal miners are unemployed down in south WV and our electric rates skyrocket, the dems are gonna be a minority in the state legislature. Our state ain't doing too bad on the financial front too. We are cutting taxes, cutting spending, the whole nine yards. That is with conservative dems in power.  Wait until the reps finally take over.

I can see the shit hitting the fan in the next 5-10 years and all the pavement apes, black, brown and white, from up north thinking they gonna come down here and take what is ours are gonna get their ass shot off.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Rebel on November 13, 2012, 08:59:29 AM
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WeekendWarrior (1,123 posts)

and if you have under 50 employees, there's no penalty at all. So how do you explain firing them now?

What happens if they have 60 employees, douchebag? What do you think they'll do to get under that 50 number? Actions are met with reactions. Own it, bitch.  :bird:

:ownit:
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Rebel on November 13, 2012, 09:07:09 AM
BTW, now take that case in my previous post and multiply it by about 100,000+ companies, DUmbasses.


:ownit:
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Tucker on November 13, 2012, 09:10:32 AM
What happens if they have 60 employees, douchebag? What do you think they'll do to get under that 50 number? Actions are met with reactions. Own it, bitch.  :bird:

:ownit:

That is so simple. Same with cutting the hours worked down to 29.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: txradioguy on November 13, 2012, 09:13:41 AM
What happens if they have 60 employees, douchebag? What do you think they'll do to get under that 50 number? Actions are met with reactions. Own it, bitch.  :bird:

:ownit:

Their basic premise is wrong though Reb...the penalties start with the 31st employee not the 51st.

These people have  :censored:ed up their argument before it even got started.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Rebel on November 13, 2012, 09:15:59 AM
Not to mention the, according to the US Census bureau, 6 million private businesses in the United States with less than 50 employees. They'll be dropping people like flies as well because, according to these douchebags, they're those "evil rich" people making over 250K. It's pointless to explain to said douchebags that that 250K+ those employers are making also pays for the salaries of their employees as they file their taxes as personal income.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: txradioguy on November 13, 2012, 09:27:20 AM
Not to mention the, according to the US Census bureau, 6 million private businesses in the United States with less than 50 employees. They'll be dropping people like flies as well because, according to these douchebags, they're those "evil rich" people making over 250K. It's pointless to explain to said douchebags that that 250K+ those employers are making also pays for the salaries of their employees as they file their taxes as personal income.

And right on their heels the Feds will continue to lower the bar.

Right now it's over 50 employees and people making 250K

As those numbers in each category drop off because of these horrific policies the definitions will be changed too.

At some point unless something is done with what I make I'll be considered part of the "evil rich".
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Rebel on November 13, 2012, 09:36:18 AM
And right on their heels the Feds will continue to lower the bar.

Right now it's over 50 employees and people making 250K

As those numbers in each category drop off because of these horrific policies the definitions will be changed too.

At some point unless something is done with what I make I'll be considered part of the "evil rich".

And that jackass Obama is doubling down and trying to speed up the closures of these businesses:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/6125-proposed-regulations-and-notifications-posted-last-90-days-average-68-day

Anti-business, Communist prick. The only companies that'll be left standing are the huge corporations that have tons of cash for staying power and those that get in bed with Obama. They're just too stupid to realize that when they're the last ones standing, they're next. Fascism is the vehicle, Communism is the destination.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Linda on November 13, 2012, 09:55:08 AM
Wal-Mart Employees to Pay More for Health-Care Plans
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49791189

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Wal-Mart Stores' U.S. employees will pay between 8 percent and 36 percent more in premiums for its medical coverage in 2013, prompting some of the 1.4 million workers at the nation's largest private employer to say they will forego coverage altogether.

[DU mode on]Darn that evil Wal-Mart. Making their employees pay part of the cost of their health care, don't they know that the company is supposed to supply health insurance for free.{/DU mode off]

My company just told us the same thing. Depending on the coverage we chose we will pay between 8% and 36% more in premiums for its medical coverage in 2013. Thanks to obamacare.

 :ownit:
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 13, 2012, 10:08:24 AM
Sing it DUmmies......to the tune of "I'm getting married in the morning."

"I'm getting fired in the morning....ding-dong the **** got reelected.............."



EDIT: Watch that shit, Johnny.
Title: Re: Dear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees with shout out to the cave.
Post by: Tucker on November 13, 2012, 10:54:58 AM
Not to mention the, according to the US Census bureau, 6 million private businesses in the United States with less than 50 employees. They'll be dropping people like flies as well because, according to these douchebags, they're those "evil rich" people making over 250K. It's pointless to explain to said douchebags that that 250K+ those employers are making also pays for the salaries of their employees as they file their taxes as personal income.

I do believe that the 250K is based on gross sales.