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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on October 13, 2012, 09:06:21 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/11425455
Oh my.
fearnobush (3,465 posts) Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:48 PM
I knew a 24 year old who died of acute pneumonia because he had no Heath insurance.
He was my niece's boyfriend. He had a cold, at least that is what he thought he had. After the second day, his cold became worse. He lived at home in an upper middle class neighborhood and was in between jobs. He had no Heath insurance. Later that night when his father noticed he'd become progressively sicker he offers to take him to the hospital. The young man said he could not afford it, that it would ruin his credit. He was too old to be covered by his father's insurance back in 2009. He had no idea how sick he was. By this point, the infection had spread deep into his lungs but he had no idea.
He told his father if he did not feel ant better in the morning he would go to the emergency room. His father stayed with him in his room that night. His son's coughing grew worse. At three am his father called for the paramedics. By the time they arrived, he was dead. If this happened to this young man today. And I'm almost in tears writing this, he would still be alive because of one man. President Obama. So Mr. Romney, you can go **** YOUR MORMON ASS TO HELL!
Warpy (65,057 posts) Thu Oct 11, 2012, 09:54 PM
5. A coworker died like that, went home with the flu in the afternoon and was dead the next morning. This was in 1991 or so. A few years later when a cluster of cases got the local university to identify Hantavirus, we all suspected that's what it had been.
I had two coworkers who had to declare bankruptcy just because of copays when they developed serious illnesses.
This is not right. I also know too many people who don't go in when they should because they can't afford the copay or the deductible is too high. It's not really worth it to them to have insurance, at all, since they're paying premiums for comprehensive insurance instead of just major medical.
So yes, those bastards really chap my ass. I haven't had insurance since 1987, myself, and no way to get it.
Tar and feathers, folks, it's the only logical response to cruel, lying greedheads like Romney and Ryan.
^^^^^Hmmmm.
There must be a back-story on that. One wonders what it is.
SheilaT (10,879 posts) Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:36 AM
6. A co-worker died of what they used to call "walking pneumonia", which is more or less when you don't realize you really have pneumonia, because you may feel lousy but you just don't realize how sick you are. Basically, he went home feeling lousy, went to bed and woke up dead.
Sometimes, even when people do have health insurance, they delay seeking medical help. Unfortunately, for those who are uninsured in our system, there's a huge financial disincentive to get help under any circumstances.
You know, I had a niece who died unexpectedly at the age of 30 back in 2000.
One of my primitive sisters-in-law, an aunt of hers, said she died because of "lack of insurance."
(This was then too early to blame it on George Bush, so she blamed it on Republicans in general.)
Which of course was bullshit.
My niece died simply because she figured that if things she did had bad consequences, medical science would take care of it.
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On the other (sane) hand, every uninsured young person I have ever known to get deathly sick (including my own daughter) went to a hospital to seek help. They were treated to the best modern medicine could provide.
Their medical bills were sent to "Human Resources". The bills were paid by medicaid and/or private organizations. And like in the case of my daughter, she never saw another bill. Her care was over $200,000.00.
Why are these DUmbasses so unable to seek the same care and outcomes?
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How does one 'wake up dead'?
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On the other (sane) hand, every uninsured young person I have ever known to get deathly sick (including my own daughter) went to a hospital to seek help. They were treated to the best modern medicine could provide.
Their medical bills were sent to "Human Resources". The bills were paid by medicaid and/or private organizations. And like in the case of my daughter, she never saw another bill. Her care was over $200,000.00.
Why are these DUmbasses so unable to seek the same care and outcomes?
Undies, Undies, Undies . . . what's the first rule of the DUmpster?
DUmmies lie. All the time, DUmmies lie.
They want good and decent people to come to their side. And they're just like Muzzies in that lies that help them are all right.
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Undies, Undies, Undies . . . what's the first rule of the DUmpster?
DUmmies lie. All the time, DUmmies lie.
They want good and decent people to come to their side. And they're just like Muzzies in that lies that help them are all right.
Where was my head and what was I thinking of?
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Look, if I'm so sick I need to go to the hospital, then there isn't enough "they'll ruin my credit" excuses I could come up with to keep me from going. That's not dying of an illness, that's dying from stupidity.
I've generally found that people will find ways to do whatever they want to do if they want it bad enough. Some people won't go to the doctor no matter how bad they feel, which is their choice. No about of "free" healthcare" will change that.
Some cases like the primitives describe may have happened to individuals. But as always is the case when it comes to things like this, the primitives have way too many personal experiences with issues that play into their political beliefs to find their stories credible. IOW, they conveniently jump on the "free healthcare" wagon with these types of stories a little too much for me to believe them.
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After the second day, his cold became worse. He lived at home in an upper middle class neighborhood and was in between jobs. He had no Heath insurance. Later that night when his father noticed he'd become progressively sicker he offers to take him to the hospital. The young man said he could not afford it, that it would ruin his credit. He was too old to be covered by his father's insurance back in 2009. He had no idea how sick he was. By this point, the infection had spread deep into his lungs but he had no idea.
He told his father if he did not feel ant better in the morning he would go to the emergency room. His father stayed with him in his room that night. His son's coughing grew worse. At three am his father called for the paramedics. By the time they arrived, he was dead.
You can come down with a cold one day and be dead from pneumonia during the night of the next day?
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You can come down with a cold one day and be dead from pneumonia during the night of the next day?
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They've been watching "Mildred Pierce" were the young daughter has a slight cough one day and it dead the next.
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fearnobush (3,465 posts) Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:48 PM
I knew a 24 year old who died of acute pneumonia because he had no Heath insurance.
Oh bull ****in' shit! Anyone to stooooopid to go to an emergency room when they're that sick deserves to kick up daisies! What was it's DU name?
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^^^^^Hmmmm.
There must be a back-story on that. One wonders what it is.
Warpy (65,057 posts)
8. Nobody disgusts me more than a tax whiner.
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I'm living off a portfolio and pay quarterlies and I do my own damned taxes on April Fool's Day, after the first amended 1099s come in. I want to see what's going on.
Taxes are the way we support all the things we take for granted, from a 911 number to call to the roads to the traffic lights on them that help assure we get to our destination in one piece to the water we drink and cook with every day. I would far rather pay taxes than be on the hook for some profit driven corporate monopoly any old day. I know what monopolies do when they realize they have a captive customer pool with no choice but to use what they produce.
Tax whiners need to be shipped off to Somalia until they get the ****ing point.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021263093#post8
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Warpy (65,057 posts)
8. Nobody disgusts me more than a tax whiner.
I'm living off a portfolio and pay quarterlies and I do my own damned taxes on April Fool's Day, after the first amended 1099s come in. I want to see what's going on.
Taxes are the way we support all the things we take for granted, from a 911 number to call to the roads to the traffic lights on them that help assure we get to our destination in one piece to the water we drink and cook with every day. I would far rather pay taxes than be on the hook for some profit driven corporate monopoly any old day. I know what monopolies do when they realize they have a captive customer pool with no choice but to use what they produce.
Tax whiners need to be shipped off to Somalia until they get the ****ing point.
OK, so Warpy's living off some sort of investment fund? and he won't buy insurance?
He's wealthy enough not to work, but too cheap to buy his own insurance...Instead he wants US to pay his medical bills when he could easily pay for his own.
--Typical lazy liberal bum. Rich but still seeking entitlements.
Hmmm. Is he another trust fund baby like Wee Willie Pittster?
Or is his investment portfolio called the M&D? Mom and Dad Funds Unlimited?
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Seein' how he does his taxes on April Fools day says a lot. No fool like an old fool. Oh, and hey Warped, I don't mind payin' taxes for my local improvements.
It's the ****in' Feds makin' me pay for your medical and birth control that chaps my hide. That and the Homo Poet Society that Dirty Harry Reid thinks we can't do without, that and similar hand outs just like it.
**** you leaches!
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How does one 'wake up dead'?
One of my favorite expressions. I use to use all the time when teaching.
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You can come down with a cold one day and be dead from pneumonia during the night of the next day?
Actually, yes, you can. It nearly happened to me, years ago. Started feeling like the flu at midday, saw my doctor in the afternoon, ended up at 1am in the ER with 105 temp, blue fingernails, etc., double pneumonia. Took 3 days in ICU to get it under control. I didn't quite die, but was pretty close, I think.
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Actually, yes, you can. It nearly happened to me, years ago. Started feeling like the flu at midday, saw my doctor in the afternoon, ended up at 1am in the ER with 105 temp, blue fingernails, etc., double pneumonia. Took 3 days in ICU to get it under control. I didn't quite die, but was pretty close, I think.
Close only counts in horseshoes.
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fearnobush (3,465 posts) Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:48 PM
I knew a 24 year old who died of acute pneumonia because he had no Heath insurance.
I'd bet the DUmmy (A friend of a DUmmy is by association, a DUmmy) got high and passed out in a blizzard or some such idiocy.
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You can come down with a cold one day and be dead from pneumonia during the night of the next day?
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I got sick about 7:30 in the evening and was in the ER by 11 the next morning. In an induced coma in the ICU by 2. I died several times. Woke up 8 days later in a different hospital than I went out in.
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Close only counts in horseshoes.
Add "hand grenades" and "nuclear weapons" to that list. :tongue:
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Add "hand grenades" and "nuclear weapons" to that list. :tongue:
And premature eja....oh, never mind.
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No experience with pneumonia, but my husband got sick on a Fri. in the AM, I made an appt. with the Doctor for the early afternoon because I didn't want him sick all weekend, at the Doctors office I came down with the same symptoms my Husband had earlier in the morning, saw the Doctor, got a prescription because we both had bronchitis and we had the flu, got the prescription filled, we went to bed about 3 and were bed bound for a week, it was insane, it took us about a month to recover. I couldn't believe how fast the symptoms came on.
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OK, so Warpy's living off some sort of investment fund? and he won't buy insurance?
He's wealthy enough not to work, but too cheap to buy his own insurance...Instead he wants US to pay his medical bills when he could easily pay for his own.
--Typical lazy liberal bum. Rich but still seeking entitlements.
Hmmm. Is he another trust fund baby like Wee Willie Pittster?
Or is his investment portfolio called the M&D? Mom and Dad Funds Unlimited?
The defrocked warped primitive's a she.
A former registered nurse in Massachusetts, now banned from practicing in that profession for life.
She now lives in New Mexico; about 62 years old, give or take a year either way.
She has a face like Hindenburg's and a body like Mussolini's.
One of the most enthusiastic fans of abortion on Skins's island.
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I don't know what year it was when DUmmy Warpy was caught stealing drugs from the hospital and lost her nursing career, but it was after 1987.
And there's no hospital nurse who doesn't have some kind of health insurance.
Warpy lies as often as she's ugly - all the time.
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fearnobush (3,465 posts) Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:48 PM
I knew a 24 year old who died of acute pneumonia because he had no Heath insurance.
He was my niece's boyfriend. He had a cold, at least that is what he thought he had. After the second day, his cold became worse. He lived at home in an upper middle class neighborhood and was in between jobs. He had no Heath insurance. Later that night when his father noticed he'd become progressively sicker he offers to take him to the hospital. The young man said he could not afford it, that it would ruin his credit. He was too old to be covered by his father's insurance back in 2009. He had no idea how sick he was. By this point, the infection had spread deep into his lungs but he had no idea.
He told his father if he did not feel ant better in the morning he would go to the emergency room. His father stayed with him in his room that night. His son's coughing grew worse. At three am his father called for the paramedics. By the time they arrived, he was dead. If this happened to this young man today. And I'm almost in tears writing this, he would still be alive because of one man. President Obama. So Mr. Romney, you can go **** YOUR MORMON ASS TO HELL!
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Bigoted much?
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The young man said he could not afford it, that it would ruin his credit.
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The young man said he could not afford it, that it would ruin his credit.
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Gotta agree with ya Chris_.
But his credit is just the best!.
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The defrocked warped primitive's a she.
A former registered nurse in Massachusetts, now banned from practicing in that profession for life.
She now lives in New Mexico; about 62 years old, give or take a year either way.
She has a face like Hindenburg's and a body like Mussolini's.
One of the most enthusiastic fans of abortion on Skins's island.
I was wondering where she lived--for a while I thought that she lived in Oregon, where Hantavirus is comparatively rare next to, say, the Four Corners region where I grew up. Same with bubonic plague--outside certain areas, it's unheard of, but for some strange reason, in the Southwest it's far more common.
I nadined the CDC website and found a breakdown by state, and a breakdown by year, but even CDC doesn't list cases until 1993, so the 1991 claim she makes is dubious, at best, and it certainly doesn't list exposure by year AND by state, so finding how many cases were diagnosed in NM in 1991 would be a bit, uh, impossible.
http://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/surveillance/state-of-exposure.html
It's still a (relatively) rare disease, with only about 600 cases give or take in the last 20 years, but if one catches it, it's a very nasty thing, to be sure. I know when I was working out in remote areas in substations while working for SCE we definitely took precautions if we noticed dead rodents about (which was pretty often.)
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The ugly old slattern does in fact live near the Four Corners, somewhere near, in New Mexico.
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I've been to the hospital five times so far this year.
I racked up some bills. I have insurance. I have co pays.
I plan ahead. I put money in an HSA. I also have a savings account because I don't blow every penny I make on smoking weed, organic gardens or solar panels for my iPad.
I don't make the money I made ten years ago, about 1/3 less, that is the way things work out.
I had a 28k helicopter ride to a hospital in Las Vegas for a stroke, and two ambulance rides, all three "out of network"
**** off DUmmies....
You can also get a pneumonia shot for around $40 at Walgreens, if you have insurance it's usually free. It's called preventative care. Try it sometime DUmmies... :fuelfire:
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Last time I had a stay in one of those hotels with an adjustable bed, I had pancreatitus. Hell I just thought it was indigestion for the first day. Damn near went to see my maker before I was ready, so you can indeed die within 24 hours.
However, even as much as I don't go to doctors unless absolutely necessary, doesn't take a rocket scientist to know when ya need to go.
Oh, and medical bills don't usually affect your credit. All ya have to do is throw 'em a few bucks a month. Besides, if ya don't have insurance, there are untold organizations willing to help out.
DUmmies lie, they lie all the time!
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fearnobush (3,465 posts) Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:48 PM
I knew a 24 year old who died of acute pneumonia because he had no Heath insurance.
He was my niece's boyfriend. He had a cold, at least that is what he thought he had. After the second day, his cold became worse. He lived at home in an upper middle class neighborhood and was in between jobs. He had no Heath insurance. Later that night when his father noticed he'd become progressively sicker he offers to take him to the hospital. The young man said he could not afford it, that it would ruin his credit. He was too old to be covered by his father's insurance back in 2009. He had no idea how sick he was. By this point, the infection had spread deep into his lungs but he had no idea.
He told his father if he did not feel ant better in the morning he would go to the emergency room. His father stayed with him in his room that night. His son's coughing grew worse. At three am his father called for the paramedics. By the time they arrived, he was dead. If this happened to this young man today. And I'm almost in tears writing this, he would still be alive because of one man. President Obama. So Mr. Romney, you can go **** YOUR MORMON ASS TO HELL!
Well Dummie being someone that doesn't go to the doc for every sniffle, I can relate. Now when you be 24 yrs old, death is something that happens to someone else. Sounds to me like the boy wanted to tough it out and it cost him. Guys are like that... especially young ones. Sorry for your loss but health insurance wouldn't have saved this boy. It was his decision not to go to the doc. I bet the boy had the best cell phone and a good ride. Choices have consequences and sounds like he made the wrong one.
Life is like that. Life is cruel. Life sucks. Dog eat dog and all that. Maybe if you libs hadn't infiltrated the k-12 education system and made sure no kid has to worry about his/her stupid decisions, or their parents, then things would be different.
I see it everyday. Cell phone or health insurance. Nice ride or health insurance. Steak or health insurance. Most kids nowadays, who had everything handed to them, want it all and want it now. They see no consequences because of welfare. Some of them pay the ultimate price. That's real life. No big loss in my opinion. :loser: :loser:
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That's real life. No big loss in my opinion. :loser: :loser:
Nor are these lachrymoral glands getting damp either.
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lachrymoral what?
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lachrymoral what?
tear ducts
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tear ducts
Yeah, I looked it up. One can always count on you to increase our vocabulary, Coach, heh, heh.
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Yeah, I looked it up. One can always count on you to increase our vocabulary, Coach, heh, heh.
Well I admit I had no clue either. Glad I ain't the only one! :cheersmate:
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lachryanatidae what?
Tear Ducks
( quack quack :sniff sniff: )
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I got sick about 7:30 in the evening and was in the ER by 11 the next morning. In an induced coma in the ICU by 2. I died several times. Woke up 8 days later in a different hospital than I went out in.
Sounds like a good premise for a Showtime series.