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Title: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: franksolich on September 16, 2012, 02:07:10 PM
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10021355764

Oh my.

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spartan61 (1,730 posts)  Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:31 PM

Just came home from church and we are furious!

We belong to a Catholic parish in a retirement community in Florida. While my husband was driving home, I read the church bulletin. An article in the bulletin started out beautifully but then became disgustingly political. The article said that because so many young people fell for the Hope and Change in 2008, in reality it was "Hype and Lies." You tasted "socialism" and have seen evil face to face. The article also called the 2008 election the "Great Lie."

I plan to write to the priest and tell him why we are leaving the church. Politics have no place in church whether it be from the pulpit or the bulletin. If the church, any church, wants to be political, then they should give up their tax exempt status.

I couldn't help but think that if the church is so against socialism, then the parishioners shouldn't be driving to Mass on the socialist roads. Also, because it is a retirement community, most of the people are on SS and Medicare. On Monday I plan to go to the local Obama campaign office and volunteer my services, something I should have done before now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sure, sure.

In case one's not aware, for some strange demographic reason, lapsed Catholics comprise a substantial number of primitives on Skins's island.  And they're the most venomous, the most violent, the most Hate-filled, of all the primitives.

A lapsed Presbyterian or a lapsed Baptist on Skins's island ain't nothing compared with a lapsed Catholic on Skins's island.

I dunno why this is, but there it is.

Many of them have a habit of allegedly having attended church one Sunday--even the Hate-filled Die alte Sau has done that before, although admittedly I've never seen the Hate-filled defrocked warped primitive do it--and found something to get righteously indignant about.

That the Michigan primitive was once a Catholic sounds credible, so I won't argue that.

But I really doubt she was in church this morning.  She probably just found a discarded church bulletin left on the table in a restaurant where she went to join other oldsters for breakfast, by chance finding something to reinforce her Hate of God and religion.

The campfire's a big one, the primitives all on fire.

Oh-hum.  :yawn:
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Celtic Rose on September 16, 2012, 02:12:53 PM
Leaving the church over a bulletin?  Oh no, I was exposed to a political view I don't like  :panic:

If (and this is a huge if) there was something like that in a bulletin, then I would admit that it was probably inappropriate. However, this Dummie is supposedly an adult, and the adult thing to do would be to contact the priest, explain what you are upset about, and go back the next Sunday to see if it was fixed. 
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2012, 02:14:36 PM
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But I really doubt she was in church this morning.  She probably just found a discarded church bulletin left on the table in a restaurant where she went to join other oldsters for breakfast, by chance finding something to reinforce her Hate of God and religion.

Or perhaps her husband goes and because she's a hard core abortion loving...war on women believing Dummy...she stays home and berates him as he goes out the door every Sunday.

Either she found it after he got home or he left it where she could purposely find it.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2012, 02:16:12 PM
Leaving the church over a bulletin?  Oh no, I was exposed to a political view I don't like  :panic:

If (and this is a huge if) there was something like that in a bulletin, then I would admit that it was probably inappropriate. However, this Dummie is supposedly an adult, and the adult thing to do would be to contact the priest, explain what you are upset about, and go back the next Sunday to see if it was fixed. 


I briefly went to a Presbyterian church back in Texas where the minister would routinely speak out against us being in Afghanistan.

I always made sure I sat where he could see me...in my Class A uniform.  :fuelfire:
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Celtic Rose on September 16, 2012, 02:17:00 PM
I briefly went to a Presbyterian church back in Texas where the minister would routinely speak out against us being in Afghanistan.

I always made sure I sat where he could see me...in my Class A uniform.  :fuelfire:

LOL!
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 16, 2012, 03:03:57 PM
The lapsed Catholics on Skins's island all have one thing in common:

They've never been Catholics.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: franksolich on September 16, 2012, 03:36:28 PM
The lapsed Catholics on Skins's island all have one thing in common:

They've never been Catholics.

You're probably right.

poor stupid Beth
the sparkling old dude
the Die alte Sau
the defrocked warped primitive
Raven, the Bostonian Drunkard's maternal ancestress
.....and many more I can't recall at the moment, who alleged themselves to be so (there's lots of them).

They're just primitives who were born with a natural inclination, a strong drive, to Hate--something, anything--and to Hate God and religion was handy; just so they have something to Hate.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 16, 2012, 03:46:36 PM
You're probably right.

poor stupid Beth
the sparkling old dude
the Die alte Sau
the defrocked warped primitive
Raven, the Bostonian Drunkard's maternal ancestress
.....and many more I can't recall at the moment, who alleged themselves to be so (there's lots of them).

They're just primitives who were born with a natural inclination, a strong drive, to Hate--something, anything--and to Hate God and religion was handy; just so they have something to Hate.


But, they didn't give in to Hate all on their own--something had to push them.  The common thread?  Their politics, through some outside force that they trusted.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: franksolich on September 16, 2012, 03:48:50 PM
But, they didn't give in to Hate all on their own--something had to push them.  The common thread?  Their politics, through some outside force that they trusted.

No, sorry to disagree, but I suspect they had that hard core of Hate, that "need" to Hate, before they even became aware of politics.

I imagine the Die alte Sau Hated even when still in the womb.

Some people are just born to Hate.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 16, 2012, 03:57:51 PM
No, sorry to disagree, but I suspect they had that hard core of Hate, that "need" to Hate, before they even became aware of politics.

I imagine the Die alte Sau Hated even when still in the womb.

Some people are just born to Hate.

Yes, I agree--they had that hard core of Hate.  But, some outside influence prodded them to continue in that direction.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Mr Mannn on September 16, 2012, 04:01:41 PM
Yes, I agree--they had that hard core of Hate.  But, some outside influence prodded them to continue in that direction.
By giving themselves over to hate they become slaves to satan. There is no evil they are not capable of.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 16, 2012, 04:14:57 PM
It's a damn wonder she didn't spell it "Cathylick Church".
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: franksolich on September 16, 2012, 04:17:47 PM
By giving themselves over to hate they become slaves to satan. There is no evil they are not capable of.

I don't worry much about meeting other primitives in real life, but there ain't no way I'm ever going down to Kansas City without a gallon of Holy Water and an industrial-strength Crucifix, in case I happen by chance to run into the Die alte Sau.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: zeitgeist on September 16, 2012, 05:03:19 PM
The lapsed Catholics on Skins's island all have one thing in common:

They've never been Catholics.

They are in good company with the self loathing Jews who's only connection to religion seems to be having a kosher pickle.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Skul on September 16, 2012, 05:10:11 PM
They are in good company with the self loathing Jews who's only connection to religion seems to be having a kosher pickle.

:lmao: :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Linda on September 16, 2012, 05:14:16 PM
They should  tell Rev. Jeremiah Wright that he can't talk politics in church.
Oops, sorry that is a liberal spouting religious leader, so never mind.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Tess Anderson on September 16, 2012, 08:05:37 PM
Yeah, I saw this where all of them wanted to report this church to the IRS and yank their tax-exempt status.   :whatever:

This one moonbat dug up the flyer:

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Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:55 PM
pangaia (319 posts)
98. Here is a link.


http://www.stmarkrcc.com/documents/982349%20September%2016%202012.pdf

My god this is dis-"grace"-ful. Sick. Ignorant, fascist, hateful, mindless, blind, stupid idiots. Most of these old farts are on SS, get Medicare, Medicaid, use the fire dept, police dept, roads, their grand kids use public schools, church pays NO TAXES,... What in the living hell is wrong with them..??
 
:lol:

It's way down at the bottom of the pdf file, what they're all ranting about here.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on September 16, 2012, 08:17:36 PM
The lapsed Catholics on Skins's island all have one thing in common:

They've never been Catholics.

There it is.

I am a lapsed Catholic.  My problems have absolutely nothing to do with faith in God.  It has everything to do with the church itself and church law.  God's law makes sense.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: sybilll on September 17, 2012, 12:39:12 AM
Yeah, I saw this where all of them wanted to report this church to the IRS and yank their tax-exempt status.   :whatever:

This one moonbat dug up the flyer:
 :lol:

It's way down at the bottom of the pdf file, what they're all ranting about here.
It is in fact at the bottom of page 9. They were all sending e-mails (vile, I'm sure), to the church, but as soon as I finish typing this, I am sending an e-mail of support.  We've got to fight the war on their turf, folks. 
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: VivisMom on September 17, 2012, 08:48:47 AM
Oh FFS  :banghead:

I'm about 100% sure that the column in question was written by someone OTHER than the pastor. While the pastor might agree with the sentiment, he is not preaching it from the pulpit. Just because it's in the damn bulletin does not mean that ZOMG! PREACHING POLITICS! TAKE AWAY THE TAX EXEMPT STATUS!!!1111!!!

Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Rebel on September 17, 2012, 08:52:50 AM
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spartan61 (1,730 posts)  Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:31 PM

Politics have no place in church whether it be from the pulpit or the bulletin. If the church, any church, wants to be political, then they should give up their tax exempt status.

Unless they're black churches and vote for Democrats 95% of the time. Then it's freedom of speech.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Gina on September 17, 2012, 09:10:53 AM
Their faith must not be that strong if a bulletin could run them away from God's word.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Gina on September 17, 2012, 09:14:41 AM
Page 7 says "Pope suggests it's best to be 'honest' and leave the Church if you don't believe.   :lmao:

How ironic
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Kyle Ricky on September 17, 2012, 09:21:36 AM
Wait a minute! A Primitive goes to church? That can't be right. The Church teaches everything they are against, and hate. I am calling Bouncy!!

 :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:
Title: Just came home from church and we are furious!!1!11
Post by: formerlurker on September 17, 2012, 11:32:37 AM
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Just came home from church and we are furious!
We belong to a Catholic parish in a retirement community in Florida. While my husband was driving home, I read the church bulletin. An article in the bulletin started out beautifully but then became disgustingly political. The article said that because so many young people fell for the Hope and Change in 2008, in reality it was "Hype and Lies." You tasted "socialism" and have seen evil face to face. The article also called the 2008 election the "Great Lie."

I plan to write to the priest and tell him why we are leaving the church. Politics have no place in church whether it be from the pulpit or the bulletin. If the church, any church, wants to be political, then they should give up their tax exempt status.

I couldn't help but think that if the church is so against socialism, then the parishioners shouldn't be driving to Mass on the socialist roads. Also, because it is a retirement community, most of the people are on SS and Medicare. On Monday I plan to go to the local Obama campaign office and volunteer my services, something I should have done before now.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021355764

Huge bonfire for an OP with all the right fixins - Catholic parish?   come on, whats not to love here. 

Title: Re: Just came home from church and we are furious!!1!11
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 17, 2012, 12:06:33 PM
It's a dupe, for one.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,78198.0.html
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Ballygrl on September 17, 2012, 12:17:57 PM
I say :bs:

We did have something in our Bulletin a few weeks ago that discussed the Church being forced to pay for birth control etc. but that was it.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Ballygrl on September 17, 2012, 12:29:11 PM
Yeah, I saw this where all of them wanted to report this church to the IRS and yank their tax-exempt status.   :whatever:

This one moonbat dug up the flyer:
:lol:

It's way down at the bottom of the pdf file, what they're all ranting about here.

They're bitching about something called Gray Haired Geezers?

BTW go Gray Haired Brigade, I think it's actually awesome they posted that in a Bulletin and also posted about the Pope saying leave the Church if you don't believe in it.

And another thing, the left doesn't keep the Catholic Church afloat, it's mostly Conservatives, you don't like it? you have no voice in it because you don't support it, so go screw yourselves! :bird:
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Karin on September 17, 2012, 12:37:05 PM
It's an enormous bonfire.  Just huge, at 247 replies.  It could be pared down to about 10 if any of them had an original thought.  Send it to the IRS!!!!!  posted 235 times. 
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 17, 2012, 12:43:42 PM
That's not a "bulletin," IMO . . . it's a magazine.  I'm in awe of a parish that would have such a vibrant pastoral life.  BTW, they're dead on in their printing of the sentiments. 

(One thing I did notice--nothing was said about "choir practice."  We've got four different choirs at my church. :-) )
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Ballygrl on September 17, 2012, 01:00:54 PM
That's not a "bulletin," IMO . . . it's a magazine.  I'm in awe of a parish that would have such a vibrant pastoral life.  BTW, they're dead on in their printing of the sentiments. 

(One thing I did notice--nothing was said about "choir practice."  We've got four different choirs at my church. :-) )

I never saw a Bulletin that large, we average 4 pages, although there are inserts of various things like Catholic Charities that you can pick up also.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 17, 2012, 01:10:42 PM
I never saw a Bulletin that large, we average 4 pages, although there are inserts of various things like Catholic Charities that you can pick up also.

We've got six pages in ours, and we're the largest parish in the Albany Diocese.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: jukin on September 17, 2012, 02:39:20 PM
Never happened. I foresee a plethora of bouncys about the Catholic churches that should lose their tax exempt status because of 0's defying the First Amendment.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: dandi on September 17, 2012, 03:22:03 PM
Most people come home from church with a feeling of peace, a brighter outlook or a reinvigoration of the spirit.

A DUmmy comes home in a state of high pissed-offness.

I think that says it all, right there.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Ballygrl on September 17, 2012, 05:09:05 PM
Never happened. I foresee a plethora of bouncys about the Catholic churches that should lose their tax exempt status because of 0's defying the First Amendment.

If they want to start talking about losing tax exempt status then they better look in their own backyard 1st, the black Churches are the worst when it comes to ignoring it.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: Kyle Ricky on September 17, 2012, 05:35:19 PM
I never saw a Bulletin that large, we average 4 pages, although there are inserts of various things like Catholic Charities that you can pick up also.

We've got six pages in ours, and we're the largest parish in the Albany Diocese.

Ours is five pages. Then, 2 1/2 pages are from prayer requests. We have an average of around 300 people who attend our church.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: sybilll on September 17, 2012, 11:06:10 PM
I sent the church an email, and got a nice response today, saying the pastor would contact me in due course.  I will keep you posted.
Title: Re: Michigan primitive leaving church
Post by: ExGeeEye on September 18, 2012, 01:49:15 AM
We've got four different choirs at my church.

You're all set to do a performance of this piece:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD6Dee2V800[/youtube]