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Title: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Freeper on August 11, 2012, 11:39:18 AM
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berni_mccoy (16,879 posts)

Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote


 
From the wiki article on Ryan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan#Ryan.27s_second_budget_plan

The 2012 Ryan budget also received criticism from elements of the Catholic Church, specifically from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and from faculty and administrators of Georgetown University. In its letter to Rep. Ryan, the group of Georgetown faculty and administrators criticized the Ryan budget as trying to "to dismantle government programs and abandon the poor to their own devices," going on to say that Catholic teaching "demands that higher levels of government provide help—"subsidium"—when communities and local governments face problems beyond their means to address such as economic crises, high unemployment, endemic poverty and hunger." The letter also criticizes Ryan for his attempts at "gutting government programs" and states that Ryan is "profoundly misreading Church teaching." A statement issued by the US Conference of Catholic Bishops criticized the Ryan budget in similar terms. Ryan rejected the bishops' criticism that his budget plans would disproportionately cut programs that "serve poor and vulnerable people."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021109392

I would be more worried about 0bama if I was Catholic. It is 0bama who is forcing them to pay for BC.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 11, 2012, 11:47:13 AM
...and from faculty and administrators of Georgetown University.

Bet 99% of that came liberal BS from the liberal professors and not Catholic bishops.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Zeus on August 11, 2012, 11:47:25 AM
Get the fed govt off the backs of state & Local Govts and they may more readily and easily provide for  those in need that can't help themselves.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Mike220 on August 11, 2012, 01:20:07 PM
Lose them to who? Obama? His policies have the bishops openly calling for disobedience of the law. Methinks you DUmmies are dreaming on this one.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: redwhit on August 11, 2012, 01:28:02 PM
   
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Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote

Not this Catholic.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Kyle Ricky on August 11, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Ryan is catholic. He will gain some. Plus with all this contraception garbage, obama lost a lot of catholics as well.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: franksolich on August 11, 2012, 01:30:37 PM
   
Not this Catholic.

Ditto.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: debk on August 11, 2012, 01:39:29 PM
Ditto.

Me three. And he will get the other Catholic in the household and the Episcopalian too!



Didn't most Catholics back Kennedy when he ran for President?  :whistling:
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Mr Mannn on August 11, 2012, 01:42:15 PM
Two GOP candidates...clean as a whistle...and this is all the DUmmies can come up with in 12 hours?
Drudge had Ryan pegged last night.

Its one thing when you know the Democrats come out slinging mud right away. Its another when liberals can't even find mud to sling. This is really pathetic. Months of opposition research and liberal pretend Catholics won't support a strong man of faith? Yeah that will sell in the heartland/NOT.


We are so gonna win this.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Kyle Ricky on August 11, 2012, 01:44:22 PM
We are so gonna win this.

I am so hoping and praying that it is a major blow out. Watching the great one do down in flames would be awesome.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Ballygrl on August 11, 2012, 01:48:53 PM
Not this Catholic either. Now let me see, let me add up the Catholics in my immediate Family who'll vote for Romeny/Ryan, I have to get the calculator so I'll be a moment.

Up to 18 so far!

20 so far!
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: BEG on August 11, 2012, 01:50:04 PM
Not this Catholic either. Now let me see, let me add up the Catholics in my immediate Family who'll vote for Romeny/Ryan, I have to get the calculator so I'll be a moment.

Up to 18 so far!

20 so far!


How many for Obama?
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Splashdown on August 11, 2012, 01:50:21 PM
Not this Catholic either. Now let me see, let me add up the Catholics in my immediate Family who'll vote for Romeny/Ryan, I have to get the calculator so I'll be a moment.

Up to 18 so far!





Count this Every Sunday Catholic as a vote for R2!
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: BEG on August 11, 2012, 01:54:15 PM
Count this Every Sunday Catholic as a vote for R2!

I like that.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Ballygrl on August 11, 2012, 01:54:23 PM
How many for Obama?

Most likely anywhere from 2-5.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Delmar on August 11, 2012, 04:11:27 PM
Hey berni_mccoy, another Catholic checking in for Romney.  Also, I just got back from www.mittromney.com where I got two Romney bumper stickers, two Romney window decals, and a Romney "R" navy polo.  Oh, I also donated $100.00 to the Romney campaign--can't let the Koch brothers take all the credit.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: miskie on August 11, 2012, 04:29:53 PM
Stupid primitives , putting their faith in anecdotes, quips, and quibbles.

Why would someone who actually is a Roman Catholic lose the Catholic vote ? If anything, Ryan will pull votes from Joe Biden - Who isn't a very good Catholic at all.

There is a new blog post at http://www.catholicvote.org/index.php?/site that does a good job of detailing why Ryan trumps Biden, if one is actually a practicing Catholic. -- Granted, the liberal 'cafeteria' variety might not agree, but the blog post is right on the money.

Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Splashdown on August 11, 2012, 04:50:26 PM
Stupid primitives , putting their faith in anecdotes, quips, and quibbles.

Why would someone who actually is a Roman Catholic lose the Catholic vote ? If anything, Ryan will pull votes from Joe Biden - Who isn't a very good Catholic at all.

There is a new blog post at http://www.catholicvote.org/index.php?/site that does a good job of detailing why Ryan trumps Biden, if one is actually a practicing Catholic. -- Granted, the liberal 'cafeteria' variety might not agree, but the blog post is right on the money.



The Bishops also stepped in it a little when they said Ryan's budget was "morally flawed."
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: ReaganForRushmore on August 11, 2012, 05:38:06 PM
   
Not this Catholic.

Nor this one.

Obama lost the Catholic vote when he told the Catholic Church you WILL offer birth control, you WILL do abortions and you WILL sit down, you WILL shut up, and you WILL vote for me because Romney is a MORMON. When HHS put the beginning tenets of Obamacare in August 1st, Obama lost the Catholic vote. So much, the US Conference of Bishops have gone to Congress to have elements of Obamacare taken out. Obama is going to reap what he has sown..

I can see Ryan offering red meat at the convention, particularly on the dismal performance of Obama/Biden on the economy and Obamacare.

Biden IS toast should there be a debate.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 11, 2012, 07:59:57 PM
Or this Catholic, or my entire family of Irish/Italian Catholics (both sides are going to vote for RSquared, except for one moonbat cousin and her husband), and you can add almost every one of my wife's side of Lutherans and Catholics.  That's a lot of votes.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2012, 08:05:26 PM
RSquared
cute.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Kyle Ricky on August 11, 2012, 08:30:57 PM
Hey berni_mccoy, another Catholic checking in for Romney.  Also, I just got back from www.mittromney.com where I got two Romney bumper stickers, two Romney window decals, and a Romney "R" navy polo.  Oh, I also donated $100.00 to the Romney campaign--can't let the Koch brothers take all the credit.

Good one. Hi5 ..
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: obumazombie on August 12, 2012, 12:05:47 AM
How is it that a woman who says she needs $3,000.000 a year for free birth control gets to be a media star ?
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: sybilll on August 12, 2012, 12:40:22 AM
These people are lemmings.  They think free birth control/aborti-facients guarantees Obama's re-election?  They didn't notice 9/12, the 2010 sweep, the Scott Walker recall, or the Chick-Fil-A response?  Guess not.  Morons.  :hammer:  How insulting to the Catholic voters.  
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: txradioguy on August 12, 2012, 03:16:14 AM
Whatever criticisms "elements" of the Catholic Church may have had against the Ryan budget...IMHO disappeared when they were forced by Obama to give out birth control under their health plans and 43 Catholic dioceses sued the Federal Government.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: txradioguy on August 12, 2012, 03:19:18 AM
How is it that a woman who says she needs $3,000.000 a year for free birth control gets to be a media star ?

Because that was the plan by Pelosi and the Libtards all along.  This whole thing with Fluke was a shame and a set up from the start.

She (Fluke) purposely picked Georgetown because of it's b/c policy.  Pelosi purposely tried three separate times to pull a bait and switch to get Flucke as the "expert" in front of the HHS committee in Congress.

When that didn't work...they faked an event with Dems only...gave the appearance of a full committee meeting and got the soundbites we hear now from Fluke out to the media.

And the rest as they say...is history.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Kyle Ricky on August 12, 2012, 12:26:56 PM
How is it that a woman who says she needs $3,000.000 a year for free birth control gets to be a media star ?

Come on now. She is doing a great thing for the tramps. With her getting free birth control, she can spread her legs and play cowgirl all she wants and not have to worry about the consequences. Sandra Fluke is the national spokes person for skanks.

Look for her to have a reality show and book deal out soon.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Freeper on August 12, 2012, 12:39:10 PM
cute.

Found my new avatar.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: franksolich on August 12, 2012, 12:46:14 PM
Hey berni_mccoy, another Catholic checking in for Romney.  Also, I just got back from www.mittromney.com where I got two Romney bumper stickers, two Romney window decals, and a Romney "R" navy polo.  Oh, I also donated $100.00 to the Romney campaign--can't let the Koch brothers take all the credit.

Did you see the Romney-Ryan campaign picked up $3.5 million since the announcement?

Thanks for being part of that!
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Kyle Ricky on August 12, 2012, 12:53:00 PM
Captain Zero has a lot to be afraid of now. He is going down like the Titanic.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Delmar on August 12, 2012, 01:48:58 PM
Did you see the Romney-Ryan campaign picked up $3.5 million since the announcement?

Thanks for being part of that!

The pleasure was all mine.  And pure joy will be mine when Barack Milhous O'WhistleBritches takes the walk of shame back to Beirut-by-the-Lake.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: thundley4 on August 12, 2012, 03:36:35 PM
Captain Zero has a lot to be afraid of now. He is going down like the Titanic.

Only if the Titanic backed up and rammed the ice berg again, could it be compared to Obama.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: obumazombie on August 13, 2012, 12:49:45 AM
Only if the Titanic backed up and rammed the ice berg again, could it be compared to Obama.
For the Magic Negro inaction figure it would be all astern full until we back over the iceberg we just hit and hold position over the initial collision position, then it's all engines full position holding stop.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on August 13, 2012, 01:43:51 AM
   
Not this Catholic.

Nor this one.

The pleasure was all mine.  And pure joy will be mine when Barack Milhous O'WhistleBritches takes the walk of shame back to Beirut-by-the-Lake.

If that SOB has to come back to Illinois, I would prefer Marion Federal Penitentiary.


Why would someone who actually is a Roman Catholic lose the Catholic vote ? If anything, Ryan will pull votes from Joe Biden - Who isn't a very good Catholic at all.

There is a new blog post at http://www.catholicvote.org/index.php?/site that does a good job of detailing why Ryan trumps Biden, if one is actually a practicing Catholic. -- Granted, the liberal 'cafeteria' variety might not agree, but the blog post is right on the money.

They won't and even non-practicing would have to have rocks in their head to prefer Slo-jo and the Magic Negro.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: miskie on August 13, 2012, 07:21:59 AM
Captain Zero has a lot to be afraid of now. He is going down like the Titanic.

Actually, I expect Obama to be going down like Sandra Fluke to keep from going down like the Titanic.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: hillneck on August 13, 2012, 07:54:53 AM
And not to mention the 100% voting for Pro-life issues Paul Ryan since 1999.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: vesta111 on August 13, 2012, 08:45:53 AM
And not to mention the 100% voting for Pro-life issues Paul Ryan since 1999.

My muddled old brain believes that the Dems months ago vetted every possible VP with any chance of becoming the VP.  Months of finding any kind of dirt on any possible choice.  Ryan was most likely the worse nightmare as there was so little to find.

How much is it going to cost the Dems. to pay for dirty tricks, [PSSSST, lady you knew Ryan as a kid, for $50,000 you can say you dated him at 16 and he  knocked you around, and you became pregnant and had an abortion.]

If one cannot find real actual dirt on him, go after and attack his wife's family, or to get really down and out dirty, insinuate that R&R  are males with a too close relationship.

Oh the wheels of politics are grinding with an anything goes this time.   My guess is that The R&R team are going in as wolves dressed in Lamb suites.  As the Dems throw mud and laugh at R&R for not retaliating in kind, wait for the debates when the lamb suites come off.  We need the wolves to protect us from the vampires.





Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: DefiantSix on August 13, 2012, 08:51:45 AM
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Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote

Uhh, DUmbshit? Guess again...

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG0x3NsCw3Y[/youtube]
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: seahorse513 on August 13, 2012, 09:22:31 AM
Uhh, DUmbshit? Guess again...

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG0x3NsCw3Y[/youtube]
Well said , Father, AMEN!! Though one thing I didn't like, I wish , he had said, we , Christians vs We, Catholics. I kinda felt left out....All the Protestant religions that have branched out from the Roman Catholic Church, believe in God and Jesus, as much as Catholics.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Aristotelian on August 14, 2012, 06:28:51 AM
This Catholic would be delighted to have the opportunity to vote for Rep. Ryan. He sounds like a splendidly sound man.

I can imagine a difference between active Catholics (who vote according to a formed Catholic conscience), and those who are culturally Catholic but only actually enter a church when it comes to family occasions like Baptisms, weddings, and funerals.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: ROCKURWORLD on August 14, 2012, 12:16:25 PM
Actually, I expect Obama to be going down like Sandra Fluke to keep from going down like the Titanic.

I don't know. We have way to many stupid people in this country !!
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Wineslob on August 14, 2012, 12:22:21 PM
Lose them to who? Obama? His policies have the bishops openly calling for disobedience of the law. Methinks you DUmmies are dreaming smoking pole on this one.


FIFY
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Airwolf on August 14, 2012, 05:28:38 PM
I'm not catholic and even I see the stupidity of that post saying they will lose the vote. Sorry but Obama has done far more damage then anyone could to sever relations with the church.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 14, 2012, 05:37:12 PM
I'm not catholic and even I see the stupidity of that post saying they will lose the vote. Sorry but Obama has done far more damage then anyone could to sever relations with the church.
It's illogical, but the jug-eared Kenyan is likely to carry both the Catholic and the Jewish vote.

That, despite his and the democrat party's demonstrated contempt for Christianity, and their insulting treatment of Israel.

I can understand how the Republican identification with Christianity may make some Jews uncomfortable.

I cannot understand how a Catholic can vote for a democrat, unless he's totally ignorant of the democrat party's past forty years of hostility toward any phase of Christianity.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Ballygrl on August 14, 2012, 06:56:45 PM
It's illogical, but the jug-eared Kenyan is likely to carry both the Catholic and the Jewish vote.

That, despite his and the democrat party's demonstrated contempt for Christianity, and their insulting treatment of Israel.

I can understand how the Republican identification with Christianity may make some Jews uncomfortable.

I cannot understand how a Catholic can vote for a democrat, unless he's totally ignorant of the democrat party's past forty years of hostility toward any phase of Christianity.

Which is why my Mother after almost 5 decades of being a Democrat became a Republican.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: obumazombie on August 14, 2012, 07:17:28 PM
When libs get mugged, or raped, literally or figuratively, they often become conservative. Some take longer than others, but there's hope for all but a few.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: Mr Mannn on August 14, 2012, 07:26:35 PM
When libs get mugged, or raped, literally or figuratively, they often become conservative. Some take longer than others, but there's hope for all but a few.
So if we wear a ski mask, beat the crap outa libs, and take their wallets...we could actually convert a few?
I like this plan!
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: obumazombie on August 14, 2012, 07:27:10 PM
So if we wear a ski mask, beat the crap outa libs, and take their wallets...we could actually convert a few?
I like this plan!
Even better when a plan comes together.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: ChuckJ on August 14, 2012, 07:51:48 PM
So if we wear a ski mask, beat the crap outa libs, and take their wallets...we could actually convert a few?
I like this plan!

That sounds like an all day job.
Title: Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
Post by: obumazombie on August 14, 2012, 07:59:31 PM
That sounds like an all day job.
Bring a lunchbox.