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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dane on August 03, 2012, 06:16:21 AM
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Nads knows 'trannies'
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nadinbrzezinski (107,198 posts)
A car troubles
The reason I am posting this, is not to talk about our issues, but warn you about a possible issue with trannies in Honda vehicles starting in 2001.
Ours started to slip, the car has less than 100,000 miles, the dealership did their recommended what have you, it got a little better and now IT IS BACK!!!!
Folks they do have a service bulletin, it is a known issue by Honda North America, and there has not been a recall.
So just a friendly reminder, yours starts doing this... time to go fight your dealer. It is a juddering\slipping issue.
Let's just say I am not that impressed, and lord knows I have owned Hondas since the 1980s... it seems to be a design issue...
Wish us luck with the shop tomorrow.
Suffice it to say, yup, we are seeing a lot of issue with multiple brands. What we find funny is the 20+ Toyota Extra Cab is running like a top
Luckily, gNads found some writings on the internets that steered her toward the needed repair.
nadinbrzezinski (107,198 posts)
3. and hybrids
yup...
After reading a very technical post by somebody who did work on Allison Trannies, I even think I know what is wrong... the clutch.
And I can tell you what it is... a design error.... friction, tolerances and all that jazz.
In the morning printing the two relevant service bulletins...
Hard to believe that a good, staunch DUmmie would admit to owning two non American non union made vehicles
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Anybody know what she means by a "juddering" issue?
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Suffice it to say, Nads has plenty of experience with trannies in her Honda. I think she is one.
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Wait a minute. Am I reading that wrong? :???:
Gnads is a "trannie" expert. (The dog cocks his head)
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IOW, Honda USA sent her a letter of a service advisory notice.
She can ****ing read--or someone knows how to read to her without getting projectile vomiting fits while looking at her.
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Anybody know what she means by a "juddering" issue?
Juddering = violent shaking accompanied with a loud noise.
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Juddering = violent shaking accompanied with a loud noise.
Shouldn't it be "shuddering" then?
The normal and rational and reasonable assumption is that nadin misspelled something.
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No, it's a real word.
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Add 'Auto Mechanic' to her resume?
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No, it's a real word.
Oh.
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It probably came about because of the noise the shaking makes is a JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH. I could be mistaken, but it's never a good sign.
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a possible issue with trannies in Honda vehicles
I would have thought trannies would prefer something a little more feminine, like a VW Beetle.
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Shouldn't it be "shuddering" then?
The normal and rational and reasonable assumption is that nadin misspelled something.
I just figured she nadined it and meant "stuttering". Every time she gets in it the car says: gggggeggeeettttt ouu ouuuutttttt!!!!!
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It's not a real word unless it's accepted by Words with Friends.
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Holy Crap! A DUmmy has had the audacity to suggest that gNads is NOT an expert in every subject under the sun! Ban the scoundrel! Tar and feather the Unbeliever! Cast out the Nay-sayer! Suffice it to say, 'iggy' is not a strong enough punishment for this transgression.
NYC_SKP (42,282 posts)
22. She never used the word "trannie", she wrote "trannies". How would you pluralize "tranny"?
And, hybrids are a PITA even for certified mechanics unless they work on them all day.
Nadin is a professional and very skilled in a range of activities, but hybrid mechanic is not on the list.
Cut a little slack, please.
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nadinbrzezinski (107,198 posts)
3. and hybrids
yup...
After reading a very technical post by somebody who did work on Allison Trannies, I even think I know what is wrong... the clutch.
And I can tell you what it is... a design error.... friction, tolerances and all that jazz.
In the morning printing the two relevant service bulletins...
Dear know it all DUmbass,if it is anything like automatic transmissions around for decades there is not a "clutch".
There are clutch packs consisting of clutch discs and seperator plates.
They do not operate in the same manner as a clutch in a manual transmisson does.
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The crazy bald dwarf talking about repairing a transmission reminds me of Eva Gabor on "Green Acres" when she suspected something was wrong with her car's "PRNDL stick".
Eva Gabor at the time was a very attractive lady, and nutcase nadin is a grotesque gnome, but their mechanical skills are similar.
And t****y is as repulsive a word as v****e and y***y.
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My wife's 1999 Honda Accord is on it's 3rd transmission. The original was replaced at 75k by the previous owner with a used one with 20k on it. That one lasted to 85 before it needed rebuilding. It's a known issue that fails beyond the warrenty period. Shit happens.
Juddering is much more violent than just a shudder. It's more like a spasmodic engage/disengage with a loud banging involved. I was driving when it took a dump. It sounded and felt like the rear end was falling out. In reality second gear locked up solid at 80 miles an hour and sorta put a dent in our anniversary plans that year. LOL
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Add 'Auto Mechanic' to her resume?
Puhleeeeeeezzzee, automotive engineer.
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Puhleeeeeeezzzee, automotive engineer.
They asked her to co-host Top Gear but she had to decline because her work solving glowball warming was interfering with her career in nuclear physics as it was. Her patients at the hospital were getting demanding too so she had to drop the CPA work right in the middle of tax season. Thank God her Ministry was keeping her sane during it all.
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Response to B Calm (Reply #11)Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:56 AM
nadinbrzezinski (107,203 posts)
13. Trust me, I do not want to even think of working on that thing
it is a hybrid... just the electrical harness gives me the jibbie hivies.
New nadinism
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The poor car has probably done way too much heavy hauling of her butt. Those auto transmissions don't handle the big loads as well as a standard. :-)
Having seen her picture though, since she does no maintenance on herself, I'm sure she also does no maintenance on her vehicles either.
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Damn thing probably ran low on Transmission fluid and the Dumb bald dwarf failed to see the little light on the dash that said "Transmission Fluid Low" or "Service Engine" till it was to late.
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Damn thing probably ran low on Transmission fluid and the Dumb bald dwarf failed to see the little light on the dash that said "Transmission Fluid Low" or "Service Engine" till it was to late.
:II: :rotf:
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My wife's 1999 Honda Accord is on it's 3rd transmission. The original was replaced at 75k by the previous owner with a used one with 20k on it. That one lasted to 85 before it needed rebuilding. It's a known issue that fails beyond the warrenty period. Shit happens.
Juddering is much more violent than just a shudder. It's more like a spasmodic engage/disengage with a loud banging involved. I was driving when it took a dump. It sounded and felt like the rear end was falling out. In reality second gear locked up solid at 80 miles an hour and sorta put a dent in our anniversary plans that year. LOL
I had to repair a transmission once on a 2000 (I think) Grand Prix that was about 2,000 miles out of warranty. I called Pontiac and told them I wanted them to help me cover the costs of the repair. I knew it wouldn't work, but I was pissed. I figured it would help me blow off some steam. I remember the conversation very well because the repair fee was wayyyy more than I had anticipated. Plus I wrote GM a letter about the phone call and transmission as soon as I got off the phone. The conversation went pretty much like below.
Pontiac: How can we help you today?
Me: The transmission went out on my wife's Grand Prix.
Pontiac: And what would you like us to do?
Me: Reimburse part of the money I paid to have it repaired.
Pontiac: How many miles is on the vehicle?
Me: 38000.
Pontiac: Sir, that is 2000 miles beyond the warranty.
Me: Yes. That is correct.
Pontiac: Why would we pay for something outside of the warranty?
Me: Because it was faulty.
Pontiac: How did you determine that?
Me: Did you design it to fail at 38000 miles?
Pontiac: No sir.
Me: Well, it failed at 38000 miles so if you didn't design it to fail at 38000 miles it must be faulty.
Pontiac: We can't pay for something that is outside of the warranty.
Me: I'm not asking you to pay for something that is outside of the warranty. I'm asking you to pay for something that you built that was faulty.
Pontiac: But we have no way of knowing it was faulty.
Me: You have said that you don't build them to fail at 38000 miles, but it did. That means it was faulty. Unless you are lying about not building them to fail at 38000 miles. In that case I want you to explain to me why you build them to fail at 38000 miles.
Pontiac: Ummm…But we don't know if you may have did something to cause it to fail.
Me: I put it in "D" to go forward, "R" to go in reverse, and "P" to park. Is that contrary to its design?
Pontiac: Well, no….during your ownership of the vehicle did you get it serviced at an authorized GM service center?
Me: No.
Pontiac: So we have no way of knowing if you serviced the vehicle properly.
Me: My mechanic is certified and all his service records are computerized. I'm sure he would be willing to forward you the service records.
Pontiac: Ummm…is this the mechanic that repaired the transmission?
Me: No.
Pontiac: So we have no way of knowing exactly what was wrong with the transmission.
Me: Yeah we do. It failed. As to why it failed, I don't know. Based on our conversation so far it possibly failed because GM builds them to fail at 38000 miles.
Pontiac: Sir, as I've previously stated, we do not build them to fail at 38000 miles.
Me: So you agree that the transmission was faulty.
Pontiac: Ummm…no….uh….since an authorized GM service center didn't do the repair we have no way of knowing what was wrong with the transmission.
Me: The transmission repair shop that repaired it is a national chain. I'm sure they would be willing to tell you what was wrong with it.
Pontiac: Yes, but OUR people can't look it.
Me: Yes they can. I have still have all the parts in boxes in the shed. They are more than welcome to come here or I'll send the parts to you if it will speed up the reimbursement.
Then she proceeded to tell me that she was sorry, but she just couldn't help me.
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I strongly suspect Gnads has never taken the vehicle in for service of any kind.
As usual, she's just blowing smoke out her ass.
What a stupid little Gnome.
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It is a fact that Honda transmissions [5 speed auto] is a dog...and Honda ignored the issue ....all the while not releasing rebuilds to the aftermarket. I personally have replaced at least a dozen of them....it was a pull..send it to the rebuilders and reinstall deal..took a couple of weeks to do each, most of that time was waiting.
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Fight your dealer? Hello, dingbat, you drive an 11 year old car! Buy a new one. ::)
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It's not a real word unless it's accepted by Words with Friends.
+1
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who did work on Allison Trannies, I even think I know what is wrong... the clutch.
Allison builds transmissions for Honda????????
I've always thought a lot of Allison transmissions.....in heavy equipment. I've paid from $3,500 to $6,000 for rebuilds of small 6-speed Allison scraper transmissions (CLBT 3661)to $25,000 for 3-speed bulldozer transmissions (CRT 5600 series).
As someone has already stated, they have clutch packs and torque converters. Some do have lockup clutches or locking/freewheeling stators....it's all according to the design and use.
The life of a transmission is proper oil, filters and how you use it....Nadin probably abused it and didn't keep it serviced.....like she does her good rig.
...and last but not least, they don't last forever.
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No, it's a real word.
For some reason it made me think of this.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UybDydQpNY[/youtube]
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who did work on Allison Trannies, I even think I know what is wrong... the clutch.
Allison builds transmissions for Honda????????
I've always thought a lot of Allison transmissions.....in heavy equipment. I've paid from $3,500 to $6,000 for rebuilds of small 6-speed Allison scraper transmissions (CLBT 3661)to $25,000 for 3-speed bulldozer transmissions (CRT 5600 series).
As someone has already stated, they have clutch packs and torque converters. Some do have lockup clutches or locking/freewheeling stators....it's all according to the design and use.
The life of a transmission is proper oil, filters and how you use it....Nadin probably abused it and didn't keep it serviced.....like she does her good rig.
...and last but not least, they don't last forever.
True enough.....as an aside...Honda auto transmissions do not use filters...and the fluid is Honda specific..and kind of pricy
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who did work on Allison Trannies, I even think I know what is wrong... the clutch.
Allison builds transmissions for Honda????????
I've always thought a lot of Allison transmissions.....in heavy equipment. I've paid from $3,500 to $6,000 for rebuilds of small 6-speed Allison scraper transmissions (CLBT 3661)to $25,000 for 3-speed bulldozer transmissions (CRT 5600 series).
As someone has already stated, they have clutch packs and torque converters. Some do have lockup clutches or locking/freewheeling stators....it's all according to the design and use.
The life of a transmission is proper oil, filters and how you use it....Nadin probably abused it and didn't keep it serviced.....like she does her good rig.
...and last but not least, they don't last forever.
Heat will kill an automatic quicker than anything else. I have a THM200 in my car, simple enough I can (and have) rebuilt myself. When the torque converter stator clutch fails, it generates a LOT of heat, so much so the filler tube has smoke coming out, even though I had a cooler rated for 20,000 GVW.
$150 later, for a used converter, rebuild kit, and shift kit, (and a oil temp gauge), it is still going strong after 40,000 miles of mail delivery routes and general commutes. Oil temp rarely exceeds 160.
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Transmissions are probably the most abused part of a vehicle.
Something people just don't think about until it's to late.
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Transmissions are probably the most abused part of a vehicle.
Something people just don't think about until it's to late.
:bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
Back in 1991 we bought a used Lincoln 1979. It ran with no problem for a couple of years and then began to just stop at street lights. Dead to the world. We had it towed 2-3 times to car shops, they started it up and no problem purred like a kitten.
My cousin that had owned same make of car came over when the car was dead in the drive way, took out a ball peen hammer and tapped on the Master Cylinder, Car came alive.
So we went down to auto shop for a new one, installed it and darn that did not work. So we went to another auto parts store and got another and Bingo, not one more problem for another 4 years.
I have no idea what a Tannie is, thought they were Gay men becoming woman.
Transmissions are odd, heading down the highway the clutch on the KIA went out. Lucky we had AAA, car towed to a KIA shop and we were driven home. What was wrong, seems a spring and pin had fallen out, cost to repair $10.00 labor $25.00.
To make things more confusing for us owners are some car makers change design mid year. A Citation I once bought second hand had a problem, forget the year, but when we went to get parts the Auto dealers told us our car by year had no such parts. We had to drag them out of the store, lift he hood to show them what we needed. Into the store and on the computer went the dealer to find that in fact my car had been built mid year.
Now as to my KIA, 2001, 50,000 miles on it as it is a summer car. The freeking doors in cold weather will not close until the car warms up for 30+minutes. I had a 64 Corvette stingray that was the same way, had to wrap the seat belt around the door handle to close the door