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Gallup: Veterans overwhelmingly back Romney
Well, then hope you will like your cuts to Veteran benefits if he's elected...
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/05/28/veterans_overwhelmingly_back_romney.html
A new Gallup survey finds that U.S. veterans, about 13% of the adult population and consisting mostly of older men, support Mitt Romney over President Obama for president by a whopping 58% to 34%, while nonveterans give Obama a four point edge, 48% to 44%.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002735936
Star Member MannyGoldstein
1. Any relationship to OxyRush being on Armed Forces Radio, while
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Liberal talkers are banned?
Star Member RZM
16. Harry Shearer is on the Armed Forces Network and he is very liberal
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If Rush had never been born I don't think these numbers would be any different. Many service members are right of center. Also, many older folks are veterans and they tend to lean conservative as well.
Star Member hobbit709
2. They didn't ask me.
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Screw Romney and the horse he rode in on.
Zalatix
3. I'm not at all surprised at this.
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I guess explaining why I'm not surprised would be negatively stereotyping veterans
unlike the way those poll results do, of course.
Star Member DinahMoeHum
4. False narratives here. Emphasis is on "older men" aka "older WHITE men"
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who never voted for Obama to begin with.
Buncha bullshit, folks.
Given what he's done to get them home from Afghanistan and Iraq and decimating the al Qaeda gang, Obama is probably a lot more popular with younger veterans and military than is given credit for.
I thought the meme was that minorities are overrepresented in the military. How could all the interviewees by white?
Star Member liberal N proud
5. What is about the military and republicans
I once told my moron brothers they were brainwashed.
Star Member n2doc
6. Another good reason to reduce the size of the military
Fewer future repub voters....
Mr Gerrity
7. BS Poll
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More Gallup right wing lies. You can see from the photos when he visits the troops that they love him.
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Star Member madokie
11. Thats a bullshit poll if ever there was one
Bull****ingshit is all I got to say.
Mponti (4 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
18. Ignorance or racism?
Do veterans realize Romney's a draft dodger....who avoided the Vietnam war by obtaining an 18 month deferment to serve in France? If the Gallup is right, vets are largely ignorant or don't like a black commander in chief. Come on! Do vets prefer a chickenhawk!!??!!
So doesn't that make Obama the ultimate chickenhawk? Remember, he tried top keep troops in Iraq beyond the SOFA put in place by Bush.
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MannyGoldstein
1. Any relationship to OxyRush being on Armed Forces Radio, while
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Liberal talkers are banned?
Rush is on 1 hour a day, AFR is full of leftists.
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DUmmies -
Mitt Romney isn't a draft dodger - He cant be.
His birthday is March 12 - which means his draft number is 300. The draft never reached that high. Sorry primitives. Try again.
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When you have a President who hates the military, you will have these things.
Mponti (4 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
18. Ignorance or racism?
Do veterans realize Romney's a draft dodger....who avoided the Vietnam war by obtaining an 18 month deferment to serve in France? If the Gallup is right, vets are largely ignorant or don't like a black commander in chief. Come on! Do vets prefer a chickenhawk!!??!!
Hey, douchenozzle, Clinton was a draft dodger also. What do you say about him? You two faced ass plunging hypocrite.
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DUmmie said, "Screw Romney and the horse he rode in on."
Definitely a step up from eating dog and having a donkey screw you, uh Dummies?
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When you have a President who hates the military, you will have these things.
Hey, douchenozzle, Clinton was a draft dodger also. What do you say about him? You two faced ass plunging hypocrite.
This is why I think that if you are going to be the commander in chief of the armed forces you should have inside information on how it works. Our last two dim presidents did not have that experience.
And this young, female veteran dislikes our current president and could care less if he were pink with purple polka dots.
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Rush is on 1 hour a day, AFR is full of leftists.
Beat me to it.
I posted the complete AFN radio schedule for the lurking DUmmies before...guess I'm gonna have to do it again.
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No surprise here, the DUmmies only love veterans who either turn out to be posers or who come back and throw their medals in the river and call their fellow servicemen war criminals. Veterans who serve with honor and don't worship at the alter of liberalism, they hate.
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When you have a President who hates the military, you will have these things.
Hey, douchenozzle, Clinton was a draft dodger also. What do you say about him? You two faced ass plunging hypocrite.
Again, he didn't dodge the draft - his number was never called. If it was, and he deferred, then the primitives might have a point.
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I had no idea that veterans were so racist. Who knew?
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Again, he didn't dodge the draft - his number was never called. If it was, and he deferred, then the primitives might have a point.
He went to college to avoid it. He dodged it.
In 1969 as the Vietnam War raged, 23-year-old Bill Clinton avoided the draft by promising to study law and join a reserve officers training program at the University of Arkansas, but he never did, The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.
At the time, Clinton was studying as a Rhodes scholar at Oxford University but graduate school draft deferments had ended in 1967. Clinton was classified 1-A - available for military service - when he graduated from Georgetown University in the spring of 1968. But because of his Rhodes scholar status, his local draft board allowed him to continue his studies at Oxford, the Journal reported."As old as he was, he would have been at the top of the list" to be drafted, the Journal quoted Opal Ellis, the draft board's executive secretary, as saying.
Read more: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/208296/CLINTON-DODGED-DRAFT-IN-1969-JOURNAL-SAYS.html
It falls into the same lines of when he says he didn't inhale, or have sexual relations with that women. He lied about not inhaling, having sexual relation, and not dodging the draft.
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No surprise here, the DUmmies only love veterans who either turn out to be posers or who come back and throw their medals in the river and call their fellow servicemen war criminals.
John F'n Kerry.
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**** that half kenyan military hating race baring son of a Bitch.
You think the military loves barry, you are just as stoned as he is.
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This is why I think that if you are going to be the commander in chief of the armed forces you should have inside information on how it works. Our last two dim presidents did not have that experience.
I agree.
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He went to college to avoid it. He dodged it.
Read more: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/208296/CLINTON-DODGED-DRAFT-IN-1969-JOURNAL-SAYS.html
It falls into the same lines of when he says he didn't inhale, or have sexual relations with that women. He lied about not inhaling, having sexual relation, and not dodging the draft.
I'm not referring to Clinton - I'm referring to Romney. :)
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I'm not referring to Clinton - I'm referring to Romney. :)
Ah, o.k. You didn't mention Romney in your reply, so I just assumed you were talking about Clinton. Sorry about the confusion.
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Fumesucker,
Thanks for the great pictures. They make me long for the days when we had a real president. The dog eating chickenhawk we have now would have to stand on Joe Biden's shoulders to kiss George Bush's ass.
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I had no idea that veterans were so racist. Who knew?
Anyone who isn't green is held in suspicion.
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Mr Gerrity
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More Gallup right wing lies. You can see from the photos when he visits the troops that they love him.
Uh, not true. They just happen to be very respectful. When the first wookie came to Pendleton they had to FORCE service members to go. No one wanted to volunteer. OTOH, when Bush visited the troops there weren't enough seats to fit everyone who wanted to be there. The reason is because he has no respect for them. Someone who cared about the troops would learn to say Corpsman instead of Corpseman.
Oh, and making the military smaller wouldn't make less conservatives. They'd still be conservative, they just wouldn't go in the military, providing you the opportunity to accuse them of being hawks without ever serving.
But here's something I really want to know. I'm being absolutely genuine here and would appreciate if one of you would come over here and explain it to me. Why do you think Rush should be either banned or extremely limited on Armed Forces Radio. These men and women, by and large, ARE conservative so it's not like Rush is going to change them into something they aren't. They don't want to listen to liberals and will just turn it off. These are the men and women fighting, dying, having limbs blown off, watching buddies die, reading Miranda rights on the battlefield and being told not to keep a bullet in the chamber (thus increasing the likelihood they'll be killed or injured because the enemy sure has his weapon ready), etc. Why shouldn't they, as the ones serving their country not be able to listen to who they want? Why shouldn't it be their choice whose on their radio. I honestly would like to know why you feel that way. If you don't have the guts to come over here maybe one of you could respond in the thread on your site? Thank you.
Cindie
PS - I'm qualified to ask this question since I have a son in the service
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Hearing about these veterans being in favor of Romney reminds me of all the veterans who were against John F'n Kerry.
It could be that the Veterans are remembering how it was in 2008. The liberals tried everything they could to not include the military absenteeism vote. When the results came back that a majority were for John McCain, it is a given why they did.
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Uh, not true. They just happen to be very respectful. When the first wookie came to Pendleton they had to FORCE service members to go. No one wanted to volunteer. OTOH, when Bush visited the troops there weren't enough seats to fit everyone who wanted to be there. The reason is because he has no respect for them. Someone who cared about the troops would learn to say Corpsman instead of Corpseman.
Oh, and making the military smaller wouldn't make less conservatives. They'd still be conservative, they just wouldn't go in the military, providing you the opportunity to accuse them of being hawks without ever serving.
But here's something I really want to know. I'm being absolutely genuine here and would appreciate if one of you would come over here and explain it to me. Why do you think Rush should be either banned or extremely limited on Armed Forces Radio. These men and women, by and large, ARE conservative so it's not like Rush is going to change them into something they aren't. They don't want to listen to liberals and will just turn it off. These are the men and women fighting, dying, having limbs blown off, watching buddies die, reading Miranda rights on the battlefield and being told not to keep a bullet in the chamber (thus increasing the likelihood they'll be killed or injured because the enemy sure has his weapon ready), etc. Why shouldn't they, as the ones serving their country not be able to listen to who they want? Why shouldn't it be their choice whose on their radio. I honestly would like to know why you feel that way. If you don't have the guts to come over here maybe one of you could respond in the thread on your site? Thank you.
Cindie
PS - I'm qualified to ask this question since I have a son in the service
Very true, Cindie.
A good friend spent 20 years in the Marine Corps. His retirement was going to roughly coincide with Obama's inauguration in 2009, so his CO ensured that his discharge certificate was signed by President Bush, not by Obama. (Forgive the verbage, probably the wrong military lingo used above)
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DUmmie said, "Screw Romney and the horse he rode in on."
Definitely a step up from eating dog and having a donkey screw you, uh Dummies?
Funny! Hi-5 :cheersmate:
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John F'n Kerry.
That's "John F'n Kerry, who served in Vietnamtm"
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That's "John F'n Kerry, who served in Vietnamtm"
John F'n Kerry, who served in Vietnam then came back ridiculing the troops calling them war criminals, and meeting with the North Korean president along side Hanoi Jane. I am still baffled that he isn't dead or in jail.
Not to mention, it is John F'n Kerry who hurt himself in battle, then put himself in for the purple heart. Three times!
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That's "John F'n Kerry, who served in Vietnamtm"
They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
What a guy that John F'n Kerry is.
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Very true, Cindie.
A good friend spent 20 years in the Marine Corps. His retirement was going to roughly coincide with Obama's inauguration in 2009, so his CO ensured that his discharge certificate was signed by President Bush, not by Obama. (Forgive the verbage, probably the wrong military lingo used above)
I did the same thing for my own retirement--I timed it so it would be signed by President Bush and not by Obama. I found out later that it is your right to have your certificate of retirement signed by any president that was president during your years of service--maybe, though, they must be a still living president. I'm not sure about all the details.
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I did the same thing for my own retirement--I timed it so it would be signed by President Bush and not by Obama. I found out later that it is your right to have your certificate of retirement signed by any president that was president during your years of service--maybe, though, they must be a still living president. I'm not sure about all the details.
I friend of mine just retired this month after 20 years of service in the navy. He didn't want his certificate signed by Obama (he wanted Bush's signature as well) and was told that he has no choice.
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I friend of mine just retired this month after 20 years of service in the navy. He didn't want his certificate signed by Obama (he wanted Bush's signature as well) and was told that he has no choice.
Maybe I heard wrong. I can't remember where I heard it--maybe it was from a sea lawyer.
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Maybe I heard wrong. I can't remember where I heard it--maybe it was from a sea lawyer.
He told me that they told him the reason he couldn't have Bush's signature was because the signature has to come from the current active commander in chief. He told me he wishes he would have been able to retired before Bush left office now.
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Kyle Ricky :
He told me that they told him the reason he couldn't have Bush's signature was because the signature has to come from the current active commander in chief. He told me he wishes he would have been able to retired before Bush left office now.
Tell your buddy to wait till 1/21/2113, then he wont have to deal with a Obama signature.
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Kyle Ricky :
He told me that they told him the reason he couldn't have Bush's signature was because the signature has to come from the current active commander in chief. He told me he wishes he would have been able to retired before Bush left office now.
Tell your buddy to wait till 1/21/2113, then he wont have to deal with a Obama signature.
Sometimes you don't get to choose your retirement date.
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Well, then hope you will like your cuts to Veteran benefits if he's elected...
You mean like no COLA increases for retirees, jacking up TRICARE premiums, VA times slower than ever, and GI Bill payments that are in some cases a YEAR behind?
Kinda like that, DUmmies?
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I have, but that's only because I interviewed a soviet defector for a class project once. And even he'd tell you he was fighting for "the Rodina", not for the "promise of a world socialist union".
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You mean like no COLA increases for retirees, jacking up TRICARE premiums, VA times slower than ever, and GI Bill payments that are in some cases a YEAR behind?
Kinda like that, DUmmies?
Smaller pay increases, massive budget cuts, MASSIVE (probably suicidally so) manpower cuts, cancelling programs, increasing all manner of things we're required to pay for, etc.
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Smaller pay increases, massive budget cuts, MASSIVE (probably suicidally so) manpower cuts, cancelling programs, increasing all manner of things we're required to pay for, etc.
Just like Carter did, just like Clinton did, now who could have seen this shit coming???
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For Gallup's info, this veteran voted for Romney just hours ago given the choices. I'll post the choices I was given if anyone is interested.
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From today:
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The Gallup poll shows 58 percent of veterans prefer Romney, compared to 34 percent who support the president.
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Read more: http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/ballot-2012/2012/05/29/poll-veterans-overwhelmingly-support-romney-over-obama