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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Bondai on May 05, 2012, 10:35:28 AM
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These people make me want to puke. Is there any misdeed they won't defend. You have the same old line up of excuses on this one, big surprise.
Baby died after mom left in SUV while at work
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The mother of a baby who died yesterday accidentally left her infant son alone in her SUV all day, police said Friday.
Lee's Summit police said their investigation is ongoing.
"The preliminary investigation has revealed that the 13-month-old child was unintentionally left in a vehicle during daytime hours as the child's mother entered her workplace," police said.
The mother is a teacher at the Lee's Summit School District while her husband also works for the district.
more . . . http://www.kctv5.com/story/18149859/baby-died-after-mom-left-in-suv-while-at-work
Fumesucker
15. It's comforting to us to blame the parents..
We tell ourselves I could *never* do that, we cannot let ourselves imagine doing such a thing to our own child.
If you could forget your wallet or your cell phone you could forget your child, our wetware is remarkably buggy in a lot of ways.
I read an article several years ago that basically said in virtually every case it's a disruption of the normal routine of the parent(s) that leads to this.
http://www.salon.com/2009/03/09/fatal_distraction/
The subhead of Gene Weingarten’s heartbreaking article in yesterday’s Washington Post asks an inflammatory question — “Forgetting a child in the back seat of a hot, parked car is a horrifying, inexcusable mistake. But is it a crime?†— but it’s a bit of a red herring. Weingarten makes it clear from the outset that his answer is no — and that, in any case, no punishment could match the life sentence of guilt that parents who have done so were handed the moment they realized what happened. Seeking to demonstrate how even the most conscientious parents can have a tragic lapse of memory, Weingarten not only interviewed 13 people who have endured the horror of killing their own children in a “perfect storm†of distraction and absent-mindedness, but also a memory expert, David Diamond, who explains why it could happen to any of us: “Memory is a machine, and it is not flawless. Our conscious mind prioritizes things by importance, but on a cellular level, our memory does not. If you’re capable of forgetting your cellphone, you are potentially capable of forgetting your child.â€
As unbelievable as that statement may sound, Weingarten makes a strong case for its truth. In every instance he covers, the parents responsible were dealing with unusual interruptions in their morning routine, got distracted and believed they’d already dropped their children off at daycare or with the baby sitter — when in reality, they’d skipped that step and left the children in their parked cars as they went to work. Says Diamond, “The important factors that keep showing up involve a combination of stress, emotion, lack of sleep and change in routine, where the basal ganglia is trying to do what it’s supposed to do, and the conscious mind is too weakened to resist. What happens is that the memory circuits in a vulnerable hippocampus literally get overwritten, like with a computer program. Unless the memory circuit is rebooted — such as if the child cries … it can entirely disappear.†Weingarten makes it chillingly clear how the lack of that “reboot†can lead to parents sincerely believing their kids are safe in their daily routines while they’re actually dying. “Several people … have driven from their workplace to the day-care center to pick up the child they’d thought they’d dropped off, never noticing the corpse in the back seat. Then there is the Chattanooga, Tenn., business executive who must live with this: His motion-detector car alarm went off, three separate times, out there in the broiling sun. But when he looked out, he couldn’t see anyone tampering with the car. So he remotely deactivated the alarm and went calmly back to work.â€
“I was that guy, before. I’d read the stories, and I’d go, ‘What were those parents thinking?’†says Mikey Terry, whose 6-month-old daughter, Mika, died of hyperthermia after he left her in a car while he went to work driving a truck, only to realize what he’d done when he was 40 long miles away. For those of us who haven’t experienced such a tragedy, perhaps the most disturbing element of Weingarten’s article is how he indicts us for our knee-jerk judgments of these parents, our insistence that we would never be so careless. He quotes psychologist Ed Hickling, who’s studied the effects of fatal car accidents on the surviving drivers: “We want to believe that the world is understandable and controllable and unthreatening, that if we follow the rules, we’ll be okay. So, when this kind of thing happens to other people, we need to put them in a different category from us. We don’t want to resemble them, and the fact that we might is too terrifying to deal with. So, they have to be monsters.†Weingarten follows that up with an example of one of the comments on a Charlottesville News Web site article about Lyn Balfour, who left her son, Bryce, to perish in her car: “If she had too many things on her mind then she should have kept her legs closed and not had any kids. They should lock her in a car during a hot day and see what happens.â€
cynatnite
22. This sounds like what happened with me...
That day I almost forgot my daughter seemed as normal as any other day. I don't know what happened for me to have forgotten. My husband and I were working and going to college full time. We had another older daughter. We had full schedules that kept us going constantly.
It was like any other day, too. For some reason that I cannot explain I just bypassed the daycare altogether and went to work. Temperatures were below freezing.
Thinking about all this now has me just about crying because I know how close I came to killing my baby girl. Even though it was many years ago, it still feels like yesterday.
No woman should sit down and allow a man to speak about her reproductive rights.
Worried senior
139. Things happen
many years ago my cousin who had six or seven children at the time went to town which was several miles away. Half way there she realized she'd left the baby at home. Anything could have happened there too, luckily it didn't but it could have. She was not the type to have done anything to hurt one of her kids, she was busy, tired and her husband was on the road, everything depended on her.
Fumesucker
26. How can you punish them worse than the punishment they will live for the rest of their lives with?
“I was that guy, before. I’d read the stories, and I’d go, ‘What were those parents thinking?’†says Mikey Terry, whose 6-month-old daughter, Mika, died of hyperthermia after he left her in a car while he went to work driving a truck, only to realize what he’d done when he was 40 long miles away. For those of us who haven’t experienced such a tragedy, perhaps the most disturbing element of Weingarten’s article is how he indicts us for our knee-jerk judgments of these parents, our insistence that we would never be so careless.
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It goes on and on. The child's mother should be arrested and charged with a crime, involuntary manslaughter comes to mind. Enough of this "she has been through enough" bleeding heart LIBERAL bullshit, she killed a baby you idiots.
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Whoa.
I don't have kids, but I thought there was supposed to be a special bond between a parent and a child.
That any parent could possibly "forget" stymies me.
Of course, I don't have children under my care 24/7/365, but I tell you what--every time I have a child with me, the first and foremost thing on the mind is "I have a child with me."
Anything else I'm doing at the time--driving, walking, shopping, dining, whatnot--that's all secondary.
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Well, it is just a child. A few months younger and they would be perfectly alright with it being chopped up and vacuumed out of the womb, so their complacency isn't surprising.
If it was a dog on the roof of a car, though, they'd be taking to the streets.
:banghead:
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Fumesucker
15. It's comforting to us to blame the parents..
We tell ourselves I could *never* do that, we cannot let ourselves imagine doing such a thing to our own child.
If you could forget your wallet or your cell phone you could forget your child, our wetware is remarkably buggy in a lot of ways.
un****ing believable to equate forgetting your child is in the car to the same as forgetting your wallet or cell phone, but I guess fumesucker's wetware has gotten remarkably buggy from sucking up too many pot fumes.
Why do you think they call it dope?
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http://sync.democraticunderground.com/1002645828
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For my sixth Birthday my birthday party was to be held at at my best friends place because one of his sisters was sick with the measles and they couldn't come to our house. All seven of us kids had already had the measles so it was good to go. so on the day of my Birthday mom loaded up the car with supplies and her children. she got a couple miles down the road and something didn't feel right so she did a head count and was one kid short. She got back to our place and there I was riding my brand new bicycle around the yard with not a care in the world. Joking about it 30 - 40 yrs later would still bring a tear to my moms eye.
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Well, it is just a child. A few months younger and they would be perfectly alright with it being chopped up and vacuumed out of the womb, so their complacency isn't surprising.
If it was a dog on the roof of a car, though, they'd be taking to the streets.
:banghead:
I think what you said sums it up nicely.
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Normal rational people can not even begin to imagine forgetting a child in the car for hours and hours. The people of DU however are handicapped by the fact that they smoke a lot of pot and it damages brain cells. So to them forgetting a baby is no different than leaving your wallet in the car. The funny part is they think that they can be trusted to run the country and they can't keep track of a baby for a day.
If this had been a dog left in the car, I wonder if they would have been so forgiving, and I am sure 0bama would be saying, "MMMMMMMMM roasted dog".
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HOW CAN YOU UNINTENTIONALLY LEAVE A CHILD IN A CAR! I don't care how much the parents claim that to be the case, they are flipping LYING!
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I will never EVER understand how a parent can forget their child in their car. That is your CHILD. How can you forget him/her? When I used to take my daughter to daycare, I would double check the car seat once I got to work. It was just a habit. Our daycare will call and ask where your kid is if you didn't drop him/her off at your usual time. I forgot to call my daughter out of school when she was sick one morning and the daycare called to ask where she was about 45 minutes after my normal type dropping her off.
It bothers me how often this happens. It is most certainly the fault of the mother. She can't even take care of her own child and she is left with OTHER people's children to care for.
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I will never EVER understand how a parent can forget their child in their car. That is your CHILD. How can you forget him/her? When I used to take my daughter to daycare, I would double check the car seat once I got to work. It was just a habit. Our daycare will call and ask where your kid is if you didn't drop him/her off at your usual time. I forgot to call my daughter out of school when she was sick one morning and the daycare called to ask where she was about 45 minutes after my normal type dropping her off.
It bothers me how often this happens. It is most certainly the fault of the mother. She can't even take care of her own child and she is left with OTHER people's children to care for.
Again, I've never been a parent, but I assumed that special bond between parent and child, where the parent is always conscious of where the child's at and what the child's doing.
At least that's the way my parents were; when a child, I got lost only one time--I'm loathe to tell you how often deaf children get lost--and it took the Royal Canadian Mounted Police to find me--but that was only because my mother was more concerned for my younger brother. And he being younger and more vulnerable, that is eminently forgiveable.
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They defend this, but feel the Duggars should not be able to have as many children as they can care for. DUmmies priorities + DUmmies moral compass = WTF major FAIL.
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They defend this, but feel the Duggars should not be able to have as many children as they can care for. DUmmies priorities + DUmmies moral compass = WTF major FAIL.
You are forgetting that DUmmies have no moral compass. :rulez:
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I left one of my kids at a gas station once. I thought he was asleep, but he woke up and walked into the bathroom while I was in the ladies' room. I think it took me all of 3 blocks to realize he was gone. (He swears he was there for HOURS. Poor kid.)
As a grandmother now, when I have a car seat in my car, I HAVE to look at it every time I get out of the car. I have a horrible memory and am terrified of getting distracted and forgetting a sleeping child. :(
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proud2BlibKansan
8. I'm a space cadet.
I routinely lose car keys, clothes, purses, my wallet. This year I lost our tax return for a week. I've left the grocery store without all my groceries. I've spent time looking for my cell phone while it was in my hand.
But never once did I ever lose one of my kids or leave them in a car seat.
Maybe because I am used to losing things, I was hyperfocused on making sure I knew where my kids were when they were younger. I was afraid every day I would do something stupid and they would get hurt.
So I just can't relate. Sorry.
She is a space cadet alright, she supports 0bama.
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I could never imagine leaving The Heiress in a car if I wasn't in the car. If she's asleep, I wake her up. It's a bit tougher for her to sleep in the car now, because she loves her booster seat. I used to check all the time to see if she was there--even if I had talked to her less than 10 seconds before.
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I have never left any of our kids in the car, but since I was always paranoid about it, I started leaving important things in the back with them, so If I did make that mistake, I wouldn't get very far. Id leave my wallet & if I was going to work , my ID back there ( It was needed to get into the building) - No money, no shopping. Easy.
It's similar to what is being installed in some school buses now - when the driver shuts off the engine and pulls the key from the ignition, a buzzer or a blinking light activates until the driver walks to the back of the bus to shut it off. Simple & effective.
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Normal rational people can not even begin to imagine forgetting a child in the car for hours and hours. The people of DU however are handicapped by the fact that they smoke a lot of pot and it damages brain cells. So to them forgetting a baby is no different than leaving your wallet in the car. The funny part is they think that they can be trusted to run the country and they can't keep track of a baby for a day.
If this had been a dog left in the car, I wonder if they would have been so forgiving, and I am sure 0bama would be saying, "MMMMMMMMM roasted dog".
Both parents worked for the school system, both probably uberliberals. Probably wanted to abort it, but waited until too late.
FWIW, the baby is better off.
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I was told that I was left at a park one time when I was 3 or 4. Not forgotten but left on purpose.
It was at a family reunion and I was hiding because I didn't want to leave, so my parents left with the five other kids and drove around a couple of blocks.
Oh yeah, there were still plenty of relatives left at the park.
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When my niece visits my mom, if either of the girls are asleep, she will leave them in the car... :mad:
Aurrora who is three, could wake up and dislodge the brake, or God knows...I don't like it, but I am not their mother...
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cynatnite
22. This sounds like what happened with me...
That day I almost forgot my daughter seemed as normal as any other day. I don't know what happened for me to have forgotten. My husband and I were working and going to college full time. We had another older daughter. We had full schedules that kept us going constantly.
It was like any other day, too. For some reason that I cannot explain I just bypassed the daycare altogether and went to work. Temperatures were below freezing.
Thinking about all this now has me just about crying because I know how close I came to killing my baby girl. Even though it was many years ago, it still feels like yesterday.
No woman should sit down and allow a man to speak about her reproductive rights.
WTF? Is she suggesting this was just a super late term abortion? And if this heartless bitch thinks no man should be "allowed" to talk to her about her "reproductive rights" I'd hate to married to her because, evidently, her husband has no ****ing say about their family planning as a "family".
Cindie
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I wouldn't even leave my dog in the car.... :banghead: