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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BannedFromDU on March 29, 2012, 03:34:41 PM
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Earth_First
Could someone explain why this wouldn't work?
Instead of one or small group of individuals winning this obscene $540 million dollar Mega Millions lottery; why couldn't 540 set of numbers be drawn and add 540 new millionaires to the economy?
Ot nationalize a lottery with similar results?
Hey, Turd First, stop spending your welfare checks on patchouli oil and "medical" marijuana, buy a lottery ticket, and you'll be in the game just like everyone else. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002490461)
Lottery Marxism:
lastlib
8. No--I'm saying that the probability of winning it is so infinitesimal
that it instills false hope in people, many of whom cannot realistically afford to throw money away by playing it.
Lotteries are also inherently undemocratic. They allow one person (or a small number of people) to become instant millionaires by sheer chance, without doing anything to earn that wealth by skill or merit. They take money from many (mostly poor or lower- to middle-income) to enrich a few for no other reason than luck of the draw. This goes against everything that a liberal democracy should stand for.
What a pantload of shit. Poor people buy most of the tickets, and GUESS WHAT: THEY WIN MOST OF THE LOTTERIES.
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And they wonder why we call them DUmbasses.
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earn that wealth by skill or merit
Also decidedly un-Democratic, but hey, who's counting.
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lastlib is correct about one thing. The majority of the lottery players are the type that can least afford it. I know you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover so to speak but many of the people I see standing in line to get or redeem lotto tickets Look like they don't have a pot to pee in much less afford to spend the $20 or $50 or more on lotto tickets.
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Lotteries are a tax on the stupid and the poor.
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lastlib is correct about one thing. The majority of the lottery players are the type that can least afford it. I know you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover so to speak but many of the people I see standing in line to get or redeem lotto tickets Look like they don't have a pot to pee in much less afford to spend the $20 or $50 or more on lotto tickets.
Lottery sales are always higher at the beginning of the month than at the end.
Lotteries are a tax on the stupid and the poor.
Hey! I resemble that remark. I don't buy tickets regularly, but will take a chance when it is over a hundred million or so. For tomorrow's drawing we have a pool going at work.
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Lotteries are a tax on the stupid and the poor.
Also on the minds of Earth First and lastlib.
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I think state lotteries are great - The short of it is they serve as voluntary tax revenue, which I'm behind 100%.
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I think state lotteries are great - The short of it is they serve as voluntary tax revenue, which I'm behind 100%.
Plus they make for damned entertaining TV when they have specials about how the heathen mouth-breathers blow through the cash in a few months.
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lastlib
8. No--I'm saying that the probability of winning it is so infinitesimal
that it instills false hope in people, many of whom cannot realistically afford to throw money away by playing it.
Lotteries are also inherently undemocratic. They allow one person (or a small number of people) to become instant millionaires by sheer chance, without doing anything to earn that wealth by skill or merit. They take money from many (mostly poor or lower- to middle-income) to enrich a few for no other reason than luck of the draw. This goes against everything that a liberal democracy should stand for.
Funny Sandra Fluke and her buddies have done nothing to earn their birth control, yet you want money taken from many (mostly poor or lower- to middle-income) who pay their premiums every month, to enrich a few for no other reason than they think they are owed it.
A liberal whining about anyone getting something for nothing amuses me greatly.
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I'm considering actually buying one of the things.
What the heck.
Figure my odds are better than Obama winning the election this year.
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18 people at my company. Everyone chipped in 10. 180 picks. That money is ours. :evil:
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18 people at my company. Everyone chipped in 10. 180 picks. That money is ours. :evil:
I dunno. I got four tickets, all for myself.
<<not fond of pools.
I figure the odds of franksolich winning the MegaMillions tomorrow (current jackpot: $540 million) are better than the odds of the primitives heeding the advice and counsel of franksolich anyway.
So why not blow the bucks?
www.electstevedawes.com
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DUmmie hasn't been able to profit from the good luck of someone he knows so now he wants to horn in on the good fortune of someone he doesn't know.
...and the reason it wouldn't work...because DUmmies are the truly greedy. "If I can't have it all, I won't play."
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MEGA MILLIONS
Current Est. Annuitized Jackpot for 03/30/2012:
$540 MILLION
Est. Cash Value:
$389.8 MILLION
Hell I might even go get a couple bucks worth of tickets. If i win I may become an expatriate to Jamaica or there about.
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Don't forget to share your good forune with erff furst. :lmao:
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Don't forget to share your good forune with erff furst. :lmao:
Earth First, we can mine the other planets later. :-)
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Earth First, we can mine the other planets later. :-)
Earth First. It's the only planet with beer and boobies.
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MEGA MILLIONS
Current Est. Annuitized Jackpot for 03/30/2012:
$540 MILLION
Est. Cash Value:
$389.8 MILLION
Hell I might even go get a couple bucks worth of tickets. If i win I may become an expatriate to Jamaica or there about.
Not me. I'd buy a few million acres in the outback of downunder.
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Erf 1st is an OWSer.
Occupy the Lottery !! :rotf:
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Not me. I'd buy a few million acres in the outback of downunder.
With their gun laws? I'd just buy Haiti and announce myself dictator. Should be able to get it for a cool 2 mil.
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Because if they draw say 540 sets of numbers? there could possibly be tens of thousands of people with the winning numbers, so people would be thousandaires instead of millionaires.
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With their gun laws? I'd just buy Haiti and announce myself dictator. Should be able to get it for a cool 2 mil.
Such a large primarily unsettled continent there are probably large areas where the primary law is laws of survival.
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Because if they draw say 540 sets of numbers? there could possibly be tens of thousands of people with the winning numbers, so people would be thousandaires instead of millionaires.
Which is still more money than you need, where need is defined by whatever Earth First says you need. The rest goes to the government for safe keeping.
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Which is still more money than you need, where need is defined by whatever Earth First says you need. The rest goes to the government for safe keeping.
They really are freaking stupid!
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With their gun laws? I'd just buy Haiti and announce myself dictator. Should be able to get it for a cool 2 mil.
Hey, I'd be like a rich democrat politician then....laws wouldn't apply to me.
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Because if they draw say 540 sets of numbers? there could possibly be tens of thousands of people with the winning numbers, so people would be thousandaires instead of millionaires.
I was going to say, if 540 people pick the same winning number it would work out the way the DUmmie said. It was a stupid point.
The ex-husband of my best friend from high school won $1.3 million in Vegas. After walking in and quitting his job, taxes, buying a new house, new cars, buying his new wife a tanning salon (that went under a year later), among other things...he was broke two years later. It's the same story you hear over and over again.
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With their gun laws? I'd just buy Haiti and announce myself dictator. Should be able to get it for a cool 2 mil.
Just don't tip it over.
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I was going to say, if 540 people pick the same winning number it would work out the way the DUmmie said. It was a stupid point.
The ex-husband of my best friend from high school won $1.3 million in Vegas. After walking in and quitting his job, taxes, buying a new house, new cars, buying his new wife a tanning salon (that went under a year later), among other things...he was broke two years later. It's the same story you hear over and over again.
$1.3MM would be a nice cha-ching, not nearly enough to retire on. Multiply that by 10 and after taxes you could have a decent existence living on the interest. But not opulent.
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Such a large primarily unsettled continent there are probably large areas where the primary law is laws of survival.
That would be the problem. I have to be near saltwater. It's a medical condition called offshore fishinitis fever.
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A few lottery tickets when the jackpot is over $100 million or so is worth their price just for the entertainment value. You can have yourself a nice little daydream about what you would do with the money, and when you don't win you didn't blow much more than a cup of coffee.
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That would be the problem. I have to be near saltwater. It's a medical condition called offshore fishinitis fever.
Hell for that much cash you could easily fly between your "Outback block" and the city, ride the copter out to the marina, and head offshore in the boat.
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Because if they draw say 540 sets of numbers? there could possibly be tens of thousands of people with the winning numbers, so people would be thousandaires instead of millionaires.
That reminds me of the scene in Bruce Almighty where he gets tired of answering every prayer so he says yes to everything, and everyone only gets $17 when they win the lottery.
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A few lottery tickets when the jackpot is over $100 million or so is worth their price just for the entertainment value. You can have yourself a nice little daydream about what you would do with the money, and when you don't win you didn't blow much more than a cup of coffee.
Already have it spent and my Piper Meridian picked out. 😉
Though the more I think about it, I might have to go with the Caravan. I can haul more.
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Seventeen bucks??!!
Cool, that's a thirty pack of beer for me.
Sign me up.
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Lotteries are a tax on the stupid and the poor.
That is a perfect description of state lotteries.
The only difference from the old numbers racket is that now the odds of winning are far slimmer.
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Lotteries are a tax on the stupid and the poor that would never pay a dime in taxes otherwise.
You almost had it. :-)
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Already have it spent and my Piper Meridian picked out. 😉
Though the more I think about it, I might have to go with the Caravan. I can haul more.
Why not go all out and get a surplus C-130.
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Why not go all out and get a surplus C-130.
Here's a good place to go shopping:
http://youtu.be/nkT9KHDFTQk
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Hell for that much cash you could easily fly between your "Outback block" and the city, ride the copter out to the marina, and head offshore in the boat.
Well, let's see...if I'm up $500 Million clams come tomorrow, I think a nice little flat on Hamilton Island would be a nice place to spend a few months each year. I remember that contest that was held to pick a blogger a few years back.
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That is a perfect description of state lotteries.
The only difference from the old numbers racket is that now the odds of winning are far slimmer.
And the bookies only got a 10 percent vig.
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I really have no problem with gambling - over here just about every pub/club/etc has poker machines.
I look at them as a tax refund device due the the principle demographic of "problem gamblers".
Some like 50% of the revenue collected goes back to the government and the rest goes to the venue - which helps them employ staff and pay the bills.
We have scratch-offs and various forms of lotto/powerball as well. All are heavily taxed - but this is one instance where I have trouble seeing a problem with said taxes.
Noted that I don't gamble in any way shape or form, so the tax paid is entirely voluntary.
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lastlib
8. No--I'm saying that the probability of winning it is so infinitesimal
that it instills false hope in people, many of whom cannot realistically afford to throw money away by playing it.
Lotteries are also inherently undemocratic. They allow one person (or a small number of people) to become instant millionaires by sheer chance, without doing anything to earn that wealth by skill or merit. They take money from many (mostly poor or lower- to middle-income) to enrich a few for no other reason than luck of the draw. This goes against everything that a liberal democracy should stand for.
Then move somewhere that has one. Or did you fall asleep in civics class?
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Well, let's see...if I'm up $500 Million clams come tomorrow, I think a nice little flat on Hamilton Island would be a nice place to spend a few months each year. I remember that contest that was held to pick a blogger a few years back.
That sorta cash would buy you Dunk Island - which was flattened by a major cyclone (hurricane) not so long ago. Spend 50 mil redeveloping the resort there and you'd be rolling in cash in 12 months tops.
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With my winnings I think I would buy that little place near Williamsburg, VA. 400 acres, 2 miles of shoreline, a beautiful historic stone house and 5 guest cottages. Part of it is set up for horse farm and the rest for hunting. Originally a kings deed so the property pre-dates the country.
Would set up a nice horse breeding/training operation and hunt/fish on the rest. Think I would be pretty happy there. :-)
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Lotteries Democrats are also inherently undemocratic. They allow one person (or a small number of people) to become instant millionaires by sheer chance, without doing anything to earn that wealth by skill or merit. They take money from many (mostly poor or lower the working - to middle-income) to enrich a few for no other reason than luck of the draw to get DUmmie votes.
I think that's an accurate description of a democrat voter.
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With my winnings I think I would buy that little place near Williamsburg, VA. 400 acres, 2 miles of shoreline, a beautiful historic stone house and 5 guest cottages. Part of it is set up for horse farm and the rest for hunting. Originally a kings deed so the property pre-dates the country.
Would set up a nice horse breeding/training operation and hunt on the rest. Think I would be pretty happy there. :-)
You'd basically be my neighbor. Abide by the no trespassing signs, and keep your horses off my property and we will get along great.
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You'd basically be my neighbor. Abide by the no trespassing signs, and keep your horses off my property and we will get along great.
If my horses are on your property then I am the one with the problem. :rotf:
I am pretty anal about my fences. As long as I can track a deer that I shot if it runs across your property then we split the meat and all is good. :-)
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I bought one ticket, if it's meant to be it's meant to be. :whatever:
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If a DUmmie should win I'm sure the idiot would just give the $$$ to his Lord Obama...right DUmmies???
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I really have no problem with gambling - over here just about every pub/club/etc has poker machines.
I look at them as a tax refund device due the the principle demographic of "problem gamblers".
Some like 50% of the revenue collected goes back to the government and the rest goes to the venue - which helps them employ staff and pay the bills.
We have scratch-offs and various forms of lotto/powerball as well. All are heavily taxed - but this is one instance where I have trouble seeing a problem with said taxes.
Noted that I don't gamble in any way shape or form, so the tax paid is entirely voluntary.
Same here - except I sometimes buy a lottery ticket on S. Matthias' Day (he's the patron Saint of lotteries)...I never expect to win anything, but it's hardly a major expense.
If folk want to throw their money in that direction, good for them.
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I bought one ticket, if it's meant to be it's meant to be. :whatever:
I wasted $2 also....but if I win, I'll buy the DUmp, resurrect the dead that lie tombstoned in the cyber graveyard and let the dogs of the word war have at it.
The Zoombies shall rise again.
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I wasted $2 also....but if I win, I'll buy the DUmp, resurrect the dead that lie tombstoned in the cyber graveyard and let the dogs of the word war have at it.
The Zoombies shall rise again.
If you win, can I have some? :naughty:
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If a DUmmie should win I'm sure the idiot would just give the $$$ to his Lord Obama...right DUmmies???
No. The first thing he would do is change his party registration.
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I wasted $2 also....but if I win, I'll buy the DUmp, resurrect the dead that lie tombstoned in the cyber graveyard and let the dogs of the word war have at it.
The Zoombies shall rise again.
Oh! can we post there openly then?
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Earth_First
Could someone explain why this wouldn't work?
Instead of one or small group of individuals winning this obscene $540 million dollar Mega Millions lottery; why couldn't 540 set of numbers be drawn and add 540 new millionaires to the economy?
Funny, I seem to remember when TARP money was being handed to the banks, a better idea was thrown out that giving the taxpayers a quarter mil a piece would have been more than sufficient to kickstart the economy than handing it to obama donors.
Wonder where this DUmmie was on that issue?
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Don't like the rules? Start your own lottery.
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It's up to $640 million now.
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It's up to $640 million now.
Or roughly 460.8 cash option, 276.5 after taxes. We figure it to be 15.36 per person take home here at work. :popcorn:
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Also decidedly un-Democratic, but hey, who's counting.
I'm surprised none of them brought up the fact that a full 40% goes to O'Bummer's coffers! Lets us see, $540 mil = $216 mil that your messiah can drop down the "Green Energy" black hole!
WTF are ya bitchin' about?
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You'd basically be my neighbor. Abide by the no trespassing signs, and keep your horses off my property and we will get along great.
If my horses are on your property then I am the one with the problem. :rotf:
I am pretty anal about my fences. As long as I can track a deer that I shot if it runs across your property then we split the meat and all is good. :-)
April has the facts, CommonGuy! You have to fence my horses out, not the other way around! We always try and keep our animals on our side of the fence, but if you want to ensure they don't cross the boundary, maintain the fence that keeps them off yer property!
I have one neighbor that in 12 years has never dropped a dime on the fence between us. Occasionally I'll miss a weak spot and some of my horses will go over and help themselves to their apple trees when they're in fruit.
I tell them, (as they say in Russia), toughski shitski! Cut loose of a coupla bucks and help me maintain our mutual fence, and you won't have to worry about it!
I have a coupla miles of fence. It's damn difficult to police the the whole thing on a continuous basis. I have other chores, too!
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April has the facts, CommonGuy! You have to fence my horses out, not the other way around! We always try and keep our animals on our side of the fence, but if you want to ensure they don't cross the boundary, maintain the fence that keeps them off yer property!
I have one neighbor that in 12 years has never dropped a dime on the fence between us. Occasionally I'll miss a weak spot and some of my horses will go over and help themselves to their apple trees when they're in fruit.
I tell them, (as they say in Russia), toughski shitski! Cut loose of a coupla bucks and help me maintain our mutual fence, and you won't have to worry about it!
I have a coupla miles of fence. It's damn difficult to police the the whole thing on a continuous basis. I have other chores, too!
Well if they shot your horse for being on their land, would you be upset? Wouldn't they have a right to remedy your horse/your property being on their's?
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Well if they shot your horse for being on their land, would you be upset? Wouldn't they have a right to remedy your horse/your property being on their's?
As I stated above, it is up to you to fence animals out of your yard/land, if you shoot someone's livestock you will probably pay about 4 times what they were worth, plus one hefty fine! If it's open range, and many places are, you will go to jail on top of buyin' said livestock! Hell if ya hit one on the highway, you not only will have to pay to get your car fixed, but pay for the horse/cow too!
So what part of ya have to fence animals out did ya not understand?
To put it in simpler terms, if you and I share a property line with a fence on it, it's as much your responsibility as it is mine.
Hope that clears it up.
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Oh, if ya shoot my Angus/Buffalo cross bull, I will own your property and y'all will never have to worry about it again!
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As I stated above, it is up to you to fence animals out of your yard/land, if you shoot someone's livestock you will probably pay about 4 times what they were worth, plus one hefty fine! If it's open range, and many places are, you will go to jail on top of buyin' said livestock! Hell if ya hit one on the highway, you not only will have to pay to get your car fixed, but pay for the horse/cow too!
So what part of ya have to fence animals out did ya not understand?
To put it in simpler terms, if you and I share a property line with a fence on it, it's as much your responsibility as it is mine.
Hope that clears it up.
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Oh, if ya shoot my Angus/Buffalo cross bull, I will own your property and y'all will never have to worry about it again!
Not understanding still why if I buy property and you contribute no money to buying of said property why your property gets to use my property?
Dogs have to have leashes and you are fined if they bite someone or cause destruction on someone's property so why do you get a pass?
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Not understanding still why if I buy property and you contribute no money to buying of said property why your property gets to use my property?
Dogs have to have leashes and you are fined if they bite someone or cause destruction on someone's property so why do you get a pass?
subrogation Law is different from state to state. Also a reason for many a lawsuit.