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Title: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BannedFromDU on March 24, 2012, 11:34:05 AM
I've been doing a lot of soul-searching, and I can't help but ask some serious questions:

1. How much is Jesse Jackson going to extort from the Sanford PD?

2. How much is Al Sharpton going to extort from the Sanford PD?

3. Will MSNBC get a cut from Sharpton's extortion?

4. Is Eric Holder or the FBI going to prosecute the New Black Panther Party for crossing state lines to threaten George Zimmermann?

5. If "Blacks are under attack," as Jesse Jackson claims, why aren't there news stories or video of Jesse Jackson protesting in Chicago, where blacks are genuinely under attack (from other blacks, that is) every week of the year?

6. If Zimmermann is only half white, is it possible to prematurely prosecute just his white half, or do we just prematurely give him half the sentence he'd ordinarily get?

7. Didn't Al Sharpton learn his lesson about waiting for facts from the Tawana Brawley incident?

And so on. We need to confront these serious questions head-on, folks.

Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 24, 2012, 11:41:35 AM
The chance of any justice period, for either person involved, went out the window the moment MSM, ABM, Holder and other assorted democrats saw that they could use this to further their agenda and reelection chances.

Mr. Zimmerman might as well kiss his ass goodbye. He will be thrown under the bus repeatedly to forestall mass riots and burnings because politicians are afraid of the color of Obama and Martins skin.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Freeper on March 24, 2012, 11:43:19 AM
And get in the way of allowing this to be a major political football? Are you crazy?  :-)

The left doesn't care a bit about Trayvon, if they didn't think they could use this issue he would just have been another story among the millions of other stories on the six o'clock news.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Freeper on March 24, 2012, 11:45:56 AM
The chance of any justice period, for either person involved, went out the window the moment MSM, ABM, Holder and other assorted democrats saw that they could use this to further their agenda and reelection chances.

Mr. Zimmerman might as well kiss his ass goodbye. He will be thrown under the bus repeatedly to forestall mass riots and burnings because politicians are afraid of the color of Obama and Martins skin.

Oh yeah now that Holder is going after this in a fast and furious way, Zimmerman is toast, even if it turns out he was in the right they won't dare let him off.

I'm not saying he is innocent or isn't, I'm still waiting on the whole story to come out, but this will be nothing but a circus now.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 24, 2012, 11:56:57 AM
Hey, lurkers, maybe you should look at this . . .

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Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman

Updated: Friday, 23 Mar 2012, 6:19 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 23 Mar 2012, 5:47 PM EDT
 
ORLANDO - A witness we haven't heard from before paints a much different picture than we've seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.
 
The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.

Our sister station, FOX 35 in Orlando, has spoken to that witness.
 
What Sanford Police investigators have in the folder, they put together on the killing of Trayvon Martin few know about.
 
The file now sits in the hands of the state attorney. Now that file is just weeks away from being opened to a grand jury.

The rest is here:  http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012

I don't care who the prosecutor is, or even if Holder himself prosecutes the case.  I don't think that it falls "beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt" for a criminal conviction.  In a civil trial, Zimmerman might even walk, based on his injuries in the police report.

Holder is bucking for a 50-year stay in Florence CO, if you asked me.  He has much to answer for in January-February of 2013.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 24, 2012, 12:18:32 PM
So Holder headed an operation that ran guns to Mexican drug cartels resulting in over 200 hispanics being killed.

Now Holder is trying to persecute a hispanic man who, while stupid, MAY have shot in self defense.

Why does the Obama administration hate hispanics?
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 24, 2012, 12:42:58 PM
So Holder headed an operation that ran guns to Mexican drug cartels resulting in over 200 hispanics being killed.

Now Holder is trying to persecute a hispanic man who, while stupid, MAY have shot in self defense.

Why does the Obama administration hate hispanics?

That is a point that needs to be brought into the public view.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 24, 2012, 01:04:16 PM
I've been doing a lot of soul-searching, and I can't help but ask some serious questions:

7. Didn't Al Sharpton learn his lesson about waiting for facts from the Tawana Brawley incident?
Sharpton definitely did learn his lesson from the Tawana Brawley deal, but it wasn't what you imply.

Before he cooked up the Brawley incident, Shaprton was an unknown, obscure, Jesse-Jackson-wannabe race baiter.

He had nothing.

The Brawley uproar manufactured by the news media made Sharpton a racist "black leader".

He's in the same class with Kim Kardashian, a zero-talent unknown until she posted a pornographic video of herself and a black boyfriend that went viral on the internet.

Kim and Al are both very wealthy whores.

He's become a national figure and a multimillionaire solely due to one bogus racial scam.

He learned a valuable lesson from Brawley, one that he and Jackson and probably other racist con men are putting into practice in this case.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: jukin on March 24, 2012, 01:16:05 PM
The original poleeeeeece report: http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf

Go to page 3 and see that white Hispanic Zimmerman's account and the 911 call that has the shot by the woman agree completely.

You can get the 911 audio files are here (http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html) but you have to go to Trayvon Martin Investigation - Consolidated information with regard to this tragic incident. on the page. I can't link that page.

Eric "My People" Holder will be doing his best to put a spin on this so as to 'brainwash' citizens against stand your ground laws. He told us so in his own words.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BEG on March 24, 2012, 02:44:00 PM
This had nothing to do with the guilt/innocence of the shooter., but I have been wondering...

Question:  I read reports that Trayvon laid in the morgue for three days before his parents were notified. Did his parents ever look for him in that three day period?

Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 24, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
This had nothing to do with the guilt/innocence of the shooter., but I have been wondering...

Question:  I read reports that Trayvon laid in the morgue for three days before his parents were notified. Did his parents ever look for him in that three day period?



I been wondering about that myself. I guess for boys in the hood to go missing for 3 days ain't no big deal. Takes a lot to satisfy the ho's.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Chris_ on March 24, 2012, 03:11:20 PM
He was on a 5-day suspension from school.  Hardly a model student. 
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BEG on March 24, 2012, 03:27:35 PM
He was on a 5-day suspension from school.  Hardly a model student. 

I would be careful stating that because he was on suspension that that automatically makes him a bad student. My senior year a few of the football players were suspended for a prank they did, they weren't bad kids.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Chris_ on March 24, 2012, 03:29:30 PM
When I was in high school, 1- to 3-day suspensions were the norm.  5- and 10-day suspensions were reserved for more egregious violations.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BEG on March 24, 2012, 03:30:43 PM
When I was in high school, 1- to 3-day suspensions were the norm.  5- and 10-day suspensions were reserved for more egregious violations.

True, that was the same when I was in school "back in the day".
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: jukin on March 24, 2012, 03:41:49 PM
This had nothing to do with the guilt/innocence of the shooter., but I have been wondering...

Question:  I read reports that Trayvon laid in the morgue for three days before his parents were notified. Did his parents ever look for him in that three day period?



That's wrong. The parents were notified about an hour after they made a missing person report. In fact the police came i three cars and brought clergy for the notification the next morning. They filed the missing person report about 12 hours after he went off to the store. There are rumors that the parents did not pick the cute little tyke up for three days but can't find any hard information on that.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: sybilll on March 25, 2012, 12:14:21 AM
I've been doing a lot of soul-searching, and I can't help but ask some serious questions:

1. How much is Jesse Jackson going to extort from the Sanford PD?

2. How much is Al Sharpton going to extort from the Sanford PD?

3. Will MSNBC get a cut from Sharpton's extortion?

4. Is Eric Holder or the FBI going to prosecute the New Black Panther Party for crossing state lines to threaten George Zimmermann?

5. If "Blacks are under attack," as Jesse Jackson claims, why aren't there news stories or video of Jesse Jackson protesting in Chicago, where blacks are genuinely under attack (from other blacks, that is) every week of the year?

6. If Zimmermann is only half white, is it possible to prematurely prosecute just his white half, or do we just prematurely give him half the sentence he'd ordinarily get?

7. Didn't Al Sharpton learn his lesson about waiting for facts from the Tawana Brawley incident?

And so on. We need to confront these serious questions head-on, folks.


This got a thread over at the DUmp when I read earlier.  I just KNEW it would be posted here, but it isn't.  It did not mention CC by name, and now I can't find it.  But it was this post verbatim.  It has either been deleted, or I am a lousy searcher. 
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: zeitgeist on March 25, 2012, 07:45:47 AM
So Holder headed an operation that ran guns to Mexican drug cartels resulting in over 200 hispanics being killed.

Now Holder is trying to persecute a hispanic man who, while stupid, MAY have shot in self defense.

Why does the Obama administration hate hispanics?

It do present the Oh blame administration with a head scratcher now doesnt it.  Blame the hispanic lose the brothers.  Prosecute a hispanic for a hate crime what message will that send to all the other brown people out there, that they aren't black enough?  That is the problem with race politics. You always end up pissing someone off who you disinfranchise.

Obie doesn't have sense enought to keep is mouth shut.  A sad but true fact.  His handlers should put a little tens device on him to give him a little shock when he starts to go off message.  Ditto SloJoe only they would need to up the voltage more.


Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: miskie on March 25, 2012, 07:57:33 AM
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That is the problem with race politics. You always end up pissing someone off who you disinfranchise.
<snip>

One would have thought that The One would have learned his lesson with the 'acted stupidly' comment. But no - It seems people have made determinations based on inaccurate information about both the victim & the shooter.

Now that this mess has gone viral, soon everyone will know that Trayvon wasn't the cute kid in the photos, and Zimmerman isn't the white Klansman vigilante as has been reported.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 25, 2012, 08:03:14 AM
One would have thought that The One would have learned his lesson with the 'acted stupidly' comment. But no - It seems people have made determinations based on inaccurate information about both the victim & the shooter.

Now that this mess has gone viral, soon everyone will know that Trayvon wasn't the cute kid in the photos, and Zimmerman isn't the white Klansman vigilante as has been reported.

A small amount of that info may leak out in a few places but MSM will never allow it to be presented on a national level. A few people searching for info may find it on the net but it won't be wide spread....that's why libera;s want control of the net.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: miskie on March 25, 2012, 08:33:32 AM
A small amount of that info may leak out in a few places but MSM will never allow it to be presented on a national level. A few people searching for info may find it on the net but it won't be wide spread....that's why libera;s want control of the net.

I suspect 'Social Media' will do the reporting by itself. Its been my observation that sites such as Facebook accidentally spreads more fact than all of the MSM combined.

Which is exactly why the Liberals want to control the internet via diktat. Except for porn and pirated data. Those things should be freely allowed and available.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 25, 2012, 10:07:26 AM
This is from Yahoo, obviously we can't vouch for the validity of it, but the left is just throwing things out there to see what sticks, so whatever:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120321195530AALPKWj

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George called 911 to report a suspicious person. As he got off the phone the kid attacked him and started beating the crap out of him and slamming his head against the walkway. All the while saying "you're gunna die tonight motherxxxxxx". George was screaming help when someone in a nearby apartment called 911 again. George's shirt came up while the kid was beating him, revealing the gun that he is licensed to carry. The kid went for the gun and they struggled for it, George ended up shooting the kid and saving his own life. All these people on yahoo saying that he should be in jail when they don't even know what happened. George is the brother-in-law of one of our good family friends, works with my parents, and is one of the nicest most gentle people you will ever meet. He's completely devastated that this happened and has barely been functional from the guilt. No one shoots someone for no reason, and especially not George. And they need to stop pulling the race card, George is Hispanic, not white."
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Splashdown on March 25, 2012, 10:12:22 AM
This reminds me of the Atlanta bomber case. Everybody was positive of the guy's guilt. The facts, unfortunately, said otherwise. Duke rape case also.

Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Freeper on March 25, 2012, 10:15:32 AM
This reminds me of the Atlanta bomber case. Everybody was positive of the guy's guilt. The facts, unfortunately, said otherwise. Duke rape case also.



The Atlanta guy, Richard Jewel, recently got a million dollar settlement for what they put him through.

The court of public opinion can be a nasty thing.

 
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Splashdown on March 25, 2012, 10:19:01 AM
The Atlanta guy, Richard Jewel, recently got a million dollar settlement for what they put him through.

The court of public opinion can be a nasty thing.

 

That's him. Too lazy to nadin.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 25, 2012, 10:28:32 AM
The Atlanta guy, Richard Jewel, recently got a million dollar settlement for what they put him through.

The court of public opinion can be a nasty thing.

Sadly he passed away in 2007.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 25, 2012, 10:43:58 AM
This reminds me of the Atlanta bomber case. Everybody was positive of the guy's guilt. The facts, unfortunately, said otherwise. Duke rape case also.



Do you think Obama, Holder, the MSM care what the facts are? They'll make them up as needed.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Freeper on March 25, 2012, 11:10:43 AM
Sadly he passed away in 2007.

Ohh he did? I could have sworn that in the past 2 years or so that he got some kind of settlement, maybe it was his family then. I will nadin it.  :-)
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: TVDOC on March 25, 2012, 11:29:36 AM
There are a lot of unanswered questions and media distortion going on in this case.  For example:

1.  Why did Treyvon's father state that the kid left home at halftime in the NBA game, when he was actually dead before  the game started.

2.  Why did the kid's father fail to notice and report the kid missing for 12 hours after he allegedly left, and made no effort to inquire as to his whereabouts in the intervening period?

3.  Why is the media showing photographs of Treyvon as a 14 year-old, when he stood 6'3" and weighed 170 pounds, towering over Zimmerman, who was short, heavy and out of shape, allegedly?

4.  If Zimmerman didn't act out of fear for his safety, why does he have serious contusions on the back of his head, and a broken nose?

5.  I'm hearing now that Treyvon received a 10-day suspension from school instead of 5......wouldn't that take a fairly serious offense to warrant such action, and why does the school refuse to disclose the cause of that suspension?

Far too many unanswered questions........

doc
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Splashdown on March 25, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
What happens if/when the authorities come to the same conclusion that the local PD did? With this, OWS, Obamacare, and birth control, this is going to be an ugly, ugly summer.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Freeper on March 25, 2012, 12:17:33 PM
What happens if/when the authorities come to the same conclusion that the local PD did? With this, OWS, Obamacare, and birth control, this is going to be an ugly, ugly summer.

Holder will jump in and indict him, try him, convict him, and sentence him. He shot one of Holder's people you know.

Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Evil_Conservative on March 25, 2012, 12:32:07 PM
Whether Trayvon is innocent or not, and same thing goes for Zimmerman, why is everyone so focused on this shooting?  Like I stated a few days ago, what happened is sad.  Doesn't matter who was in the right or wrong.  Two families have been ruined no matter what happened.  In Las Vegas alone, we had three separate shootings last week.  One of them, a homeowner shot and killed a black kid who was in his backyard.  I can't call him a kid, because I believe he was a 19 year old with a very long criminal record.  I don't know if the homeowner was white, but he did live in Summerlin.  To me, that doesn't matter, but if you're a democrat, Summerlin is "white-y land".  So we have this possible white man who shot and killed a black man in his backyard.  No outrage here.  As there shouldn't be... but I'm just saying.

And I have read the links people have posted here showing the massacre of the gangs in Chicago.  No outrage there.  I am sickened by the media and the President getting so involved in this case and saying some of the most ridiculous things.  I had to stop paying any attention to this stuff when Obama said, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." 

Is there a police or medical report that says Zimmerman had the cut to the back of his head?  I have only seen a short police report from two different police officers.  There must have been witness statements taken too.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Freeper on March 25, 2012, 12:39:00 PM
Whether Trayvon is innocent or not, and same thing goes for Zimmerman, why is everyone so focused on this shooting?  Like I stated a few days ago, what happened is sad.  Doesn't matter who was in the right or wrong.  Two families have been ruined no matter what happened.  In Las Vegas alone, we had three separate shootings last week.  One of them, a homeowner shot and killed a black kid who was in his backyard.  I can't call him a kid, because I believe he was a 19 year old with a very long criminal record.  I don't know if the homeowner was white, but he did live in Summerlin.  To me, that doesn't matter, but if you're a democrat, Summerlin is "white-y land".  So we have this possible white man who shot and killed a black man in his backyard.  No outrage here.  As there shouldn't be... but I'm just saying.

And I have read the links people have posted here showing the massacre of the gangs in Chicago.  No outrage there.  I am sickened by the media and the President getting so involved in this case and saying some of the most ridiculous things.  I had to stop paying any attention to this stuff when Obama said, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." 

Is there a police or medical report that says Zimmerman had the cut to the back of his head?  I have only seen a short police report from two different police officers.  There must have been witness statements taken too.

The same reason birth control and Rush calling that woman a slut was the major news the past few weeks, it's a major distraction from gas prices going up, food prices going up, and the economy is not improving.

Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 25, 2012, 12:49:37 PM
EC, the left has NOTHING to run on, nothing, nada, zilch, zero, they don't care about Trayvon Martin, they care about what it can get them in the long run. If they cared about black kids being killed? they would've been outraged at 10 people being killed last weekend in Chicago, they would be outraged that over 100 people have been killed so far in Chicago. This isn't about Trayvon, this is a distraction from high unemployment, high gas prices, high food prices, record spending, and our continuing to go down the path of destruction. But like everything else the left touches? this like the "slut" incident will backfire on them. I've seen way too many people online asking why black on black crime isn't being addressed, why black on white crime is ignored.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Splashdown on March 25, 2012, 01:29:59 PM
Apparently, Spike Lee, that paragon of social justice, tweeted Zimmerman's home address last night. Classy.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 25, 2012, 01:34:41 PM
The facts in this case are of no importance whatsoever. The two things most important to the muslim right now are keeping this case in the headlines, along with the morons on our side who keep talking about abortion and birth control.

As long as those two things are being debated, no one is talking about four-dollar gasoline, "fast and furious", ten percent unemployment, real estate values, 0bamacare, Iranian nukes, or muzzie terrorists.

The Justice Department has been assigned to keep dear little dead Trayvon at the top of Page One.

If I were the jug-eared Kenyan, I'd be feeling pretty confident about a second term right now, but it's a long time until November.

www.electstevedawes.com
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 25, 2012, 01:40:08 PM
Apparently, Spike Lee, that paragon of social justice, tweeted Zimmerman's home address last night. Classy.

And a black woman tweeted this:

Quote
@TRYFOXX @SpikeLee and retweet for the 57 children who have been killed by violence in Chicago this school year already.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 25, 2012, 03:12:02 PM
This reminds me of the Atlanta bomber case. Everybody was positive of the guy's guilt. The facts, unfortunately, said otherwise. Duke rape case also.



I always thought Richard Jewell was innocent and was not the bomber. As for Duke case, Crystal Mangum was not killed. I knew something was not right. Also, she is in legal trouble for murder.

Judge won't reduce Crystal Mangum's bond
http://www.news-record.com/content/2012/03/10/article/judge_wont_reduce_crystal_mangums_bond
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 25, 2012, 03:12:59 PM
Whether Trayvon is innocent or not, and same thing goes for Zimmerman, why is everyone so focused on this shooting?  Like I stated a few days ago, what happened is sad.  Doesn't matter who was in the right or wrong.  Two families have been ruined no matter what happened.  In Las Vegas alone, we had three separate shootings last week.  One of them, a homeowner shot and killed a black kid who was in his backyard.  I can't call him a kid, because I believe he was a 19 year old with a very long criminal record.  I don't know if the homeowner was white, but he did live in Summerlin.  To me, that doesn't matter, but if you're a democrat, Summerlin is "white-y land".  So we have this possible white man who shot and killed a black man in his backyard.  No outrage here.  As there shouldn't be... but I'm just saying.

And I have read the links people have posted here showing the massacre of the gangs in Chicago.  No outrage there.  I am sickened by the media and the President getting so involved in this case and saying some of the most ridiculous things.  I had to stop paying any attention to this stuff when Obama said, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." 

Is there a police or medical report that says Zimmerman had the cut to the back of his head?  I have only seen a short police report from two different police officers.  There must have been witness statements taken too.

Seeing Al Sharpton getting involved makes things worse.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 25, 2012, 03:13:45 PM
EC, the left has NOTHING to run on, nothing, nada, zilch, zero, they don't care about Trayvon Martin, they care about what it can get them in the long run. If they cared about black kids being killed? they would've been outraged at 10 people being killed last weekend in Chicago, they would be outraged that over 100 people have been killed so far in Chicago. This isn't about Trayvon, this is a distraction from high unemployment, high gas prices, high food prices, record spending, and our continuing to go down the path of destruction. But like everything else the left touches? this like the "slut" incident will backfire on them. I've seen way too many people online asking why black on black crime isn't being addressed, why black on white crime is ignored.

Chicago has become a lost cause mired in corruption. No offense to anyone from there.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 25, 2012, 03:25:14 PM
Chicago has become a lost cause mired in corruption. No offense to anyone from there.

Probably better to lift off and nuke the city from orbit.  It's the only way to make sure . . .  :fuelfire: :tongue:
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 25, 2012, 03:36:35 PM
Chicago has become a lost cause mired in corruption. No offense to anyone from there.
Oh, I don't know about that.

I sort of think corruption in Chicago is probably less serious than at any time in decades.

It's totally crooked, but they keep it more financial. Not nearly as many dead bodies as there used to be.

Of course, you can't count dead hoodrats. That's lifestyle, not corruption.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: dandi on March 25, 2012, 04:52:42 PM
There are many unanswered questions. I've seen some opinions indicating that since Zimmerman was following Martin in his car, then he was the "aggressor" and responsible for everything that transpired afterward. That is not necessarily true.

Though following someone in your car and observing them may be construed as aggression at some level, the law expects you to meet such an act with behavior appropriate to that level. I don't think merely being followed by someone justifies jumping them and wailing on them with your fists, even if they got out of the car and asked you what you were doing. This line of reasoning, if you want to call it reasoning, is one that many DUmmies are taking to cover Martin if he was indeed the one who initiated physical contact. They are also dramatizing it by calling Zimmerman's actions "stalking", which has a fairly clear definition under Florida law, and Zimmerman's actions do not rise to that level. If Martin jumped him simply because he was pissed off about being followed and questioned, then Zimmerman may have a case for self-defense. The fact that Zimmerman may be a racist or any kind of asshole doesn't change that.

Now it may well be that Zimmerman initiated the physical contact, or he may have verbally threatened Martin, chased him, brandished his gun, or tried to forcibly detain him in some way. In that case, all bets would be off, and Martin could use whatever means necessary to defend himself. Zimmerman would be in the wrong for using his weapon, and he should face the full penalties of the law.

The point is, we don't know which of those scenarios, or even one totally different, took place that night. There is certainly enough plausible evidence to suggest that it might have been self-defense on the part of Zimmerman. It needs more investigating. Did SPD act appropriately? I don't know that, either. I'm willing to see the results of that investigation also.

All this crap from The Hive about, "B-b-but, we just want to see him arrested!" is a total crock of shit. All they've seen from the very get-go is a black person dead at the hands of a "white" person and that's all the evidence they've needed to be calling for his head, facts be damned. Posters over there who have counselled patience or have tried to critically examine the evidence or present alternate scenarios have been attacked savagely, accused of being trolls or "defending" Zimmerman. Some have even admitted that their minds are made up and no contradictory evidence will change them.

This is nothing more than attempt to make political hay out of a tragedy. One that is similar to others that happen on a daily basis across the country except that this one just happens to be convenient to their purposes. It's stoking the fires of race-hate in an election year. They don't care about the black-on-white hate crimes. The few that make it to being posted at DU get short shrift, or get written off as the natural consequences of poverty and the reaction of a downtrodden minority to severe oppression or other such apologia. Neither will they acknowledge that 90+% of blacks murdered are the victims of other blacks. That hasn't been mentioned once. Wouldn't you think that group who claims to be so concerned about the plight of minorities would give that at least a passing glance?
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: zeitgeist on March 26, 2012, 09:15:30 AM
The facts in this case are of no importance whatsoever. The two things most important to the muslim right now are keeping this case in the headlines, along with the morons on our side who keep talking about abortion and birth control.

As long as those two things are being debated, no one is talking about four-dollar gasoline, "fast and furious", ten percent unemployment, real estate values, 0bamacare, Iranian nukes, or muzzie terrorists.

The Justice Department has been assigned to keep dear little dead Trayvon at the top of Page One.

If I were the jug-eared Kenyan, I'd be feeling pretty confident about a second term right now, but it's a long time until November.

www.electstevedawes.com

A very ^5 worthy post.  You nailed it.  Presidential Prestidigitation at its finest.  Magic.  (an we ain't talkin Johnson here) Hey Holder, watch me pull this race war out of my a$$. 

But this may still backfire on them as they seek to get the Spin cycle just right.  Looks like some in the MSM didn't get the message.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/03/obama_loves_the_hoodie.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/03/the_empathizer-in-chief_needs_to_do_some_serious_soul-searching.html

Please take time to check the two links above.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 26, 2012, 01:14:32 PM
And this is where the left as usual goes too far, new T-Shirts hitting the streets:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/cracker-tshirt-759832

An Unfortunate T-Shirt Hits Florida Streets In Wake Of Trayvon Martin Killing

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/zimmermanshirt.jpg)

Quote
Expanding the definition of “cracker,” a t-shirt featuring the photo of the man who shot Trayvon Martin is now available for purchase.

As seen at right (click to enlarge), the shirt has a picture of George Zimmerman and the words “***** Ass Cracker.” Zimmerman, a 28-year-old Hispanic, killed Martin, 17, last month while acting as a neighborhood watch captain in Sanford, Florida.

The shirt’s “***** ass cracker” line is apparently a reference to lyrics from the rapper Plies’s song “100 Years,” which bemoans stiff sentences handed out by racist judges.

Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Splashdown on March 26, 2012, 01:17:51 PM
And this is where the left as usual goes too far, new T-Shirts hitting the streets:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/cracker-tshirt-759832

An Unfortunate T-Shirt Hits Florida Streets In Wake Of Trayvon Martin Killing

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/zimmermanshirt.jpg)



This may be way off base, but I hope he doesn't plan on wearing that to his next job interview. It may reflect poorly.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Chris_ on March 26, 2012, 01:19:16 PM
Classy and eloquent.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Rebel on March 26, 2012, 01:20:00 PM
This may be way off base, but I hope he doesn't plan on wearing that to his next job interview. It may reflect poorly.

The dirty mop on his head would be enough for me to send him on his way.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Rebel on March 26, 2012, 01:20:55 PM
Not to mention the bling. The bling being his gold teef.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 26, 2012, 01:26:56 PM
This may be way off base, but I hope he doesn't plan on wearing that to his next job interview. It may reflect poorly.

That is just one of their many "Personal Job Deflection Devices".
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Chris_ on March 26, 2012, 01:29:02 PM
That's just the man keeping another brother down.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Maxiest on March 26, 2012, 01:37:29 PM


All this crap from The Hive about, "B-b-but, we just want to see him arrested!" is a total crock of shit. All they've seen from the very get-go is a black person dead at the hands of a "white" person and that's all the evidence they've needed to be calling for his head, facts be damned. Posters over there who have counselled patience or have tried to critically examine the evidence or present alternate scenarios have been attacked savagely, accused of being trolls or "defending" Zimmerman. Some have even admitted that their minds are made up and no contradictory evidence will change them.

Pretty much exactly what I wanted to say.  Well said.

This is about an evil gun totting "White" conservative shooting a black "kid" and is being used by the liberals as such.  To show that we are all evil gun totting "white" conservative's who just want to go around willy nilly shooting blacks.  No matter none of the facts match this.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: miskie on March 26, 2012, 01:37:41 PM
The short version seems to be The One has nothing to campaign on - So, he working to make it as if the GOP is campaigning against women & minorities - again.

That would be because all of the other things he campaigned against are no longer considered.

A ) wars in Iraq & Afghanistan (still ongoing)
B ) 'GITMO' (Obama denied his own executive order on its closure)
C ) rising gas prices (now higher than ever for this time of year)
D ) unemployment (double what it was under 'Chimpy McBushitler')
E ) Bush's Third Term (which most people would welcome now)

His accomplishments are abysmal -

A ) The almost universally hated 'Obamacare' (The right claims it goes too far, the left claims not far enough)
B ) He kept his promises to make energy costs 'necessarily skyrocket'
C ) The 'post racial presidency' is more racially charged than ever.

- Save for one

A ) He had the common sense to unbind the hands of the military long enough so they could do what needed to be done to Somali pirates & OBL.

There are dozens of other examples of things the Obama administration did & didn't do, (both good and bad) however they aren't on the average person's radar, so I am ignoring them as I believe the general electorate will this November.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 26, 2012, 02:04:45 PM

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/zimmermanshirt.jpg)

To paraphrase the Kenyan, if I had a Trayvon he'd look just like this character.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: micmac on March 26, 2012, 03:02:44 PM
If you are going to take on a ***** Ass Cracker then don't bring skittles to a gun fight.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Delmar on March 26, 2012, 03:27:59 PM
I think that it's going to be a major turning point in our country's history when the dust finally settles on this whole affair.  A lot of independent/moderate people are going to see what fools the MSM and democrats have been playing them for.  The edited recording of the 911 call, the misleading photos of Martin and Zimmerman--a very young looking Martin and a very surly looking Zimmerman.  I think that most conservatives figured out that we were getting played when we saw Al Sharpton insert himself into the situation.  Until I saw Sharpton was involved, I was thinking that Zimmerman was in the wrong.  After I saw Sharpton I started looking into it.  What Obama and Holder have done by weighing in on the case is going to cause a terrible setback in race relations.  Obama acted stupidly.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 26, 2012, 03:36:58 PM
Oh, I don't know about that.

I sort of think corruption in Chicago is probably less serious than at any time in decades.

It's totally crooked, but they keep it more financial. Not nearly as many dead bodies as there used to be.

Of course, you can't count dead hoodrats. That's lifestyle, not corruption.

Perhaps. Corruption is endemic there.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 26, 2012, 03:38:24 PM
And this is where the left as usual goes too far, new T-Shirts hitting the streets:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/cracker-tshirt-759832

An Unfortunate T-Shirt Hits Florida Streets In Wake Of Trayvon Martin Killing

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/zimmermanshirt.jpg)



That's racist right there.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 26, 2012, 03:44:23 PM
Quote
What Obama and Holder have done by weighing in on the case is going to cause a terrible setback in race relations.
 
From the Kenyan's point of view, that's just "energizing the base".

Democrats would prefer to see a race war. They know they aren't getting any white votes anyway.

Remember the summer Clinton was running for re-election, they cooked up that bogus epidemic of burning black churches?



Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: obumazombie on March 26, 2012, 04:38:38 PM
Anything to divert attention from the record of owebuma failure.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 26, 2012, 05:25:01 PM
I pre-dick Brokeback WhoSane O'bummer, teleprompter reader extraordinaire, will not be reelected and if he is, will not serve. Maybe some of those crackers in congress wil get some backbone and press charges against him for all the illegal shiite he and holder has done.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 26, 2012, 06:30:16 PM
I can't find the post now, but someone said he was a Democrat, here's a youtube:

[youtube=425,350]WazO6uAiZJs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 26, 2012, 07:15:23 PM
I can't find the post now, but someone said he was a Democrat, here's a youtube:

[youtube=425,350]WazO6uAiZJs[/youtube]

That gets interesting...............
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Freeper on March 26, 2012, 07:27:51 PM
Wow he's a democrat, that means he must be guilty.  :-)

Interesting that once again the poor lefties think they can finally pin something horrible on a repuke, and once again turns out it was a democrat.  :rotf:

Seriously though, this doesn't change anything as far as I am concerned, the jury is still out.

Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: NHSparky on March 26, 2012, 09:36:44 PM
This may be way off base, but I hope he doesn't plan on wearing that to his next job interview. It may reflect poorly.

Which would those be--the t-shirt or the jacked up gold "teef"?
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: sybilll on March 26, 2012, 09:46:06 PM
Oh, FFS, Trayvon's lawyers wore hoodies in *solidarity*.  http://twitchy.com/2012/03/26/trayvons-lawyers-wear-hoodies-in-support/  
Can someone please add the photo? I still suck at embedding.
ETA, Twitchy just corrected this to say these are actually NY state senators, not Trayvon's lawyers.  http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/03/members_of_new_york_legislature_wear_hoodies_to_legislative_session_photos.html
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 26, 2012, 09:52:28 PM
Oh, FFS, Trayvon's lawyers wore hoodies in *solidarity*.  
The headline says those two douches are New York state senators.

Poor li'l Trayvon doesn't need lawyers, though I'm sure a dozen of his family members will be suing everyone in sight, as well as each other.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 26, 2012, 09:59:35 PM
Here Sybilll:

The Lawyers:

(https://p.twimg.com/Ao8x3Y0CQAAQ3QI.jpg)

NY Legislature:

(http://colorlines.com/archival_images/ny-law-makers.jpg)
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: obumazombie on March 26, 2012, 10:08:59 PM
Hoods from the hood wearing Hoodies in the house !
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: diesel driver on March 27, 2012, 05:21:06 AM
Which would those be--the t-shirt or the jacked up gold "teef"?

The blank stare that tells you his brain cells are so few and far between, they have to communicate via long distance.

IOW, he's a dimmocrat.   :lmao:
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Gina on March 27, 2012, 07:27:16 AM
Here Sybilll:

The Lawyers:

(https://p.twimg.com/Ao8x3Y0CQAAQ3QI.jpg)

NY Legislature:

(http://colorlines.com/archival_images/ny-law-makers.jpg)

that is so stupid looking.    Wonder if their pants are hanging from their ass too  :lmao:
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Maxiest on March 27, 2012, 07:51:10 AM
The headline says those two douches are New York state senators.

Poor li'l Trayvon doesn't need lawyers, though I'm sure a dozen of his family members will be suing everyone in sight, as well as each other.

Well his mother is already trademarking his name.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Splashdown on March 27, 2012, 07:55:08 AM
...and heading to DC this morning to speak in front of Congress.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 27, 2012, 07:58:05 AM
...and heading to DC this morning to speak in front of Congress.  :whatever:

Oh? The Trayvon shooting may turn out to be a Fluke for democrats.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Splashdown on March 27, 2012, 08:11:23 AM
Oh? The Trayvon shooting may turn out to be a Fluke for democrats.

And then they'll move on to yet another "tragedy" or "crisis" or somesuch.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 27, 2012, 08:16:31 AM
And then they'll move on to yet another "tragedy" or "crisis" or somesuch.

Reminds me of the Buster Brown Show, "Pluck your magic strings froggie..." democrats are always hunting something to pluck your heart strings with. Important stuff be damned.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: obumazombie on March 27, 2012, 08:27:40 AM
Reminds me of the Buster Brown Show, "Pluck your magic strings froggie..." democrats are always hunting something to pluck your heart strings with. Important stuff be damned.
So, what you're saying is they're master manipulators.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 27, 2012, 08:33:17 AM
So, what you're saying is they're master manipulators.

More like masturbators.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 27, 2012, 09:09:02 AM
More like masturbators.

When you masturbate though you get satisfaction, for the left? it's like they're attempting to masturbate, someone walks in the room and catches them, they don't get to finish and celebrate, then they move onto the next room, and the same thing happens, they get close to an orgasm, but never quite get the orgasm.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 27, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
When you masturbate though you get satisfaction, for the left? it's like they're attempting to masturbate, someone walks in the room and catches them, they don't get to finish and celebrate, then they move onto the next room, and the same thing happens, they get close to an orgasm, but never quite get the orgasm.

Okay, then--failed masturbators.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 27, 2012, 09:29:31 AM
Todays NY Post Cover:

(http://static8.businessinsider.com/image/4f71c60aeab8ea2d19000062-540-/trayvon-martin-new-york-post-cover.png)
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Rebel on March 27, 2012, 09:35:39 AM
Oh, I don't know about that.

I sort of think corruption in Chicago is probably less serious than at any time in decades.

It's totally crooked, but they keep it more financial. Not nearly as many dead bodies as there used to be.

Of course, you can't count dead hoodrats. That's lifestyle, not corruption.

We have our own Chicago in the South. It's called New Orleans and its corrupt as hell. Not as corrupt as it used to be, but corrupt nonetheless. Hell, there are a few cops on death row for acting as hit squads.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Gina on March 27, 2012, 10:32:02 AM
Todays NY Post Cover:

(http://static8.businessinsider.com/image/4f71c60aeab8ea2d19000062-540-/trayvon-martin-new-york-post-cover.png)

what?  no skittles?
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Chris_ on March 27, 2012, 10:34:49 AM
Obviously those three are the best and brightests the NY State Senate has to offer. :whatever:
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Gina on March 27, 2012, 10:39:56 AM
Obviously those three are the best and brightests the NY State Senate has to offer. :whatever:

I bet Jay Z will be making money off of this soon
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 27, 2012, 11:16:24 AM
I bet Jay Z will be making money off of this soon

Nope, but is Obama?

http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104707&article=9954327&sa=U&ei=7NdxT-jNDOfu0gHp7JnaAQ&ved=0CCIQqQIwAA&usg=AFQjCNFB2yrf6KGVLmVFv7gOZ_817Dw1AA
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Maxiest on March 27, 2012, 11:23:30 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see 0bama in a hoodie at his next press conference.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Gina on March 27, 2012, 11:29:35 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see 0bama in a hoodie at his next press conference.

 :lmao: :lmao:  with Mooshelle behind him with her arms crossed saying "Yehhhhhhh boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"    :lmao:
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 27, 2012, 11:50:35 AM
CNN's Cooper Grills Black Panthers over Racism, "Uncle Toms"

[youtube=425,350]TxIjibd_uy4[/youtube]

Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Gina on March 27, 2012, 11:56:27 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html?ICO=most_read_module

look at the comments at the bottom.  I have never seen so many posts that are actually that high in count and on the right side of rational thought!
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 27, 2012, 11:59:03 AM
Spike Lee tweets George Zimmerman's address, turns out he tweeted the wrong address:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/mar/27/picket-spike-lee-re-tweets-incorrect-address-trayv/

PICKET: Spike Lee re-tweets incorrect address of Trayvon Martin shooter

By Kerry Picket

Quote
Filmmaker Spike Lee made waves on Twitter last week when he re-tweeted to his 200,000 followers (h/t Twitchy) what was thought to be George Zimmerman's home address in Sanford, Florida. Mr. Zimmerman told Sanford police last month that he fatally shot 17 year old Trayvon Martin in self-defense.

However, the Edgewater Circle address Mr. Lee re-tweeted out is not part of the gated Retreat at Twin Lakes where the shooting took place and where Mr. Zimmerman lives. The area is not even a gated community.

In fact, I took a drive to that Edgewater Circle address that so many on Twitter re-tweeted and cursed, and I discovered through a neighbor, named Tim, who lives across the street from the address, that not only does George Zimmerman not live at the lakeside house but a woman by the name of Elaine does.

According to Tim, a number of news agencies drove through looking for Mr. Zimmerman. While it was not wise to incite the masses to go to an address he thought was Mr. Zimmerman's to begin with, Mr. Lee should should still "do the right thing" and give the actual resident at the address above some peace and apologize for disrupting her life.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 27, 2012, 12:09:06 PM
And this is where the left goes too far, another interrupted masturbation session. Video at the link:

http://www.local10.com/news/Police-Trayvon-protesters-ransack-store/-/1717324/9719674/-/xctonpz/-/index.html

Police: Trayvon protesters ransack store
North Miami Beach Walgreens incident caught on video

Quote
NORTH MIAMI BEACH, Fla. -

North Miami Beach police said surveillance video shows dozens of high school students demonstrating in the Trayvon Martin case Friday ransacking and shoplifting from a Walgreens store.

The incident occurred during a walkout from North Miami Beach Senior High School in support of Martin, 17, who was fatally shot in Sanford. Protesters have been calling for the arrest of George Zimmerman, 28, who has not been charged because he claimed self-defense in the shooting, according to police.

Minutes after walking out of their school Friday at about 11 a.m., a large group of students walked through the streets of North Miami Beach. Along the way, they stopped at a Walgreens at 163rd Street and 15th Avenue.

Surveillance video shows dozens of teenagers running through the store. Police said about 50 to 60 students stormed in, ransacking the shelves, before the school's vice principal ordered everyone outside.

North Miami Beach police said students stole about $1,100 worth of merchandise and damaged some items, including a DVD player, int he store.

Some of the students dropped their IDs on the way out of the store, police said, so investigators have an idea of who was inside.

The investigation continues.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Rebel on March 27, 2012, 12:20:55 PM
This is today's liberalism, people. ****ing animals.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 27, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
Apologies if I'm over-posting in this thread, but this issue ticks me off and the left needs to see how they're being manipulated by people with an agenda.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Gina on March 27, 2012, 12:26:43 PM
Apologies if I'm over-posting in this thread, but this issue ticks me off and the left needs to see how they're being manipulated by people with an agenda.

You are not and the more this shit is out there the better.  The media and left can't just make up history. 
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 27, 2012, 12:29:16 PM
You are not and the more this shit is out there the better.  The media and left can't just make up history. 

If you watch Anderson Cooper in that Youtube, I think the media is realizing this is getting out of hand.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Chris_ on March 27, 2012, 12:37:41 PM
If you watch Anderson Cooper in that Youtube, I think the media is realizing this is getting out of hand.
They are uneducated, oblivious morons.  They'll keep at it until the whole thing goes down in flames.

This is why we can't have nice things.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 27, 2012, 12:41:16 PM
They are uneducated, oblivious morons.  They'll keep at it until the whole thing goes down in flames.

This is why we can't have nice things.

And the tide is turning.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Splashdown on March 27, 2012, 12:43:02 PM
And the tide is turning.

So now they'll have to find another crisis. It's gonna be a loooooooooooooooong spring and summer.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BannedFromDU on March 27, 2012, 12:43:33 PM
     If I were Zimmerman, I'd hide out in a showing of a Spike Lee movie. Only a few people there and the ones that are would be terrified by the presence of an actual non-white person.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: wasp69 on March 27, 2012, 12:45:36 PM
If you watch Anderson Cooper in that Youtube, I think the media is realizing this is getting out of hand.

He's getting a good, hard, eye to eye look at the monster he has helped create.  I hope he cried after it being insinuated he was just another white racist.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Maxiest on March 27, 2012, 12:46:52 PM
He's getting a good, hard, eye to eye look at the monster he has helped create.  I hope he cried after it being insinuated he was just another white racist.

But he is gay.  Is it possible to be a white gay racist?
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BannedFromDU on March 27, 2012, 12:48:00 PM
But he is gay.  Is it possible to be a white gay racist?

     DUmmies accuse every Republican politician as gay when they want to smear them. They love fags until they hate them.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: wasp69 on March 27, 2012, 12:49:08 PM
But he is gay.  Is it possible to be a white gay racist?

If Zimmerman can be a "white Hispanic" then, yeah, I suppose so.  I don't have the libtard rulebook but that sounds like it could happen.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Crazy Horse on March 27, 2012, 05:23:58 PM
But he is gay.  Is it possible to be a white gay racist?

Yeah, Mary Cheney
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Elspeth on March 27, 2012, 05:44:41 PM
Question:  I read reports that Trayvon laid in the morgue for three days before his parents were notified. Did his parents ever look for him in that three day period?

Don't know if this was answered.

NO, Trayvon was only missing 12-13 hours when Tracy Martin found out his son was dead.


Al Sharpton's Politics Nation (MSNBC) March 21

Here is the story of finding out about Trayvon from the police.


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Rev. Al: Why did it take the police so long to contact you?  Do you know?

Mr. Martin: Uh, actually, I contacted the police, myself.

Rev. Al: So they never made the contact.

Mr. Martin: I did the initial contact.  I called the, uh,--Trayvon was missing, I called Missing Persons, filed a Missing Persons report.  Um, at that time they sent officers out.  They dispatched--they told me they were going to dispatch a couple of--dispatch a unit to the residence.  They called back about ten minutes later and asked me what he had been last seen wearing. And I gave a description of him.

Um, I told them what he had on.

Rev. Al:  Now how long had he been missing when this was going on?

Mr. Martin: Uh, since he had left the--since he left the house, which had been over 12 hours, 12 or 13 hours.

Rev. Al: OK, and then what happened?

Mr. Martin: Uh, three units pulled up. There was a marked car, an unmarked car, and a service aid car, which the service aid car, was a chaplain in it.  Um, I didn't know it because he just had on a regular uniform.

Uh, the first officer that approached, I identified myself, told him I was filing a Missing Person's report. The second officer approached.  Um, he introduced himself as a major crimes investigator.  At that time it didn't register to me.  He asked me to describe my son.  I described him to him.  He told me give him a second. He walked to his vehicle, got a folder, came back, asked can we go in the house. We went in the house, uh, he asked me to sit down.  I sat down.  He pulled out a picture of my son on the ground dead.  Asked me was that my son.  I confirmed that it was....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45755884/#46814638


And even more The Right Reverend Weird Al Sharpton:

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Rev. Al: Now Attorney Crump, why couldn't--if Trayvon had a cell phone--why couldn't they have looked at the cell phone and traced the numbers and called somebody?

Mr. Crump: Well, it's one of the things you would have asked yourself. The police have subpoena power--they could have subpoenaed those records and stuff to find out who he was....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45755884/#46814638

FUN FACTS

1. Trayvon was only "in the morgue" for 12 hours or less.

2. The police could not search his phone without a subpoena (and try finding a judge on a Sunday night in a small town.) Most likely they would have had the subpoena the next day.

3. Trayvon's father waited 12-13 hours after Trayvon left the house before contacting the police. Trayvon had been missing roughly 11-12 hours by then.

Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: obumazombie on March 27, 2012, 06:08:10 PM
Spike Lee tweets George Zimmerman's address, turns out he tweeted the wrong address:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/mar/27/picket-spike-lee-re-tweets-incorrect-address-trayv/

PICKET: Spike Lee re-tweets incorrect address of Trayvon Martin shooter

By Kerry Picket

Is it wrong for Spike Lee to tell us all to do the right thing, all the while not doing the right thing?

This previous sentence is mine, I can't figure out how to get it out of the blue box.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: dixierose on March 27, 2012, 06:09:23 PM
Didn't I read that his father called the cops to see if he had been arrested before he filed the missing person report?
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Elspeth on March 27, 2012, 06:12:54 PM
Didn't I read that his father called the cops to see if he had been arrested before he filed the missing person report?

Yes.

Here. (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,70991.msg835281.html#msg835281)
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: obumazombie on March 27, 2012, 06:14:03 PM

http://www.local10.com/news/Police-Trayvon-protesters-ransack-store/-/1717324/9719674/-/xctonpz/-/index.html

Police: Trayvon protesters ransack store
North Miami Beach Walgreens incident caught on video




My reply follows, I can't figure out how to get it out of the blue box.
 
I never got my free stuff from the Rodney King riots. I was out of town. I was outraged about whatever the rioters were outraged about. But mostly because I didn't get my free stuff.

If Trayvon rioters get free stuff and I miss out this time, I will be more outraged than a welfare recipient that can't find their welfare check. I will still be outraged at whatever the rioters are currently outraged about, but mostly, I want my free stuff.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: dixierose on March 27, 2012, 06:15:33 PM
Interesting. After checking with his friends, my first call would be to hospitals to make sure my son wasn't in an accident. Calling to see if he has been arrested wouldn't even be on my radar. But, I know my son so I know that possibility would be close to nil.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: obumazombie on March 27, 2012, 06:17:33 PM
Interesting. After checking with his friends, my first call would be to hospitals to make sure my son wasn't in an accident. Calling to see if he has been arrested wouldn't even be on my radar. But, I know my son so I know that possibility would be close to nil.
Maybe he knows his son as well as you know yours.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: dixierose on March 27, 2012, 06:18:24 PM
Maybe he knows his son as well as you know yours.
My point exactly...
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Elspeth on March 27, 2012, 06:20:39 PM
Interesting. After checking with his friends, my first call would be to hospitals to make sure my son wasn't in an accident. Calling to see if he has been arrested wouldn't even be on my radar. But, I know my son so I know that possibility would be close to nil.

That tells you something about Tracy Martin's mindset.  And about his status as "Mostly Absent Dad."  Remember, he was 250 miles away: roughly the distance from New York to DC.  Can't imagine him doing lots of visitation with Baby Boy at that distance.

Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: obumazombie on March 27, 2012, 06:22:08 PM
My point exactly...
I'm slow sometimes. Thanks for letting me stumble upon it.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: dixierose on March 27, 2012, 06:55:16 PM
I'm slow sometimes. Thanks for letting me stumble upon it.

No problem  :-)
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 27, 2012, 09:06:32 PM
That tells you something about Tracy Martin's mindset.  And about his status as "Mostly Absent Dad."  Remember, he was 250 miles away: roughly the distance from New York to DC.  Can't imagine him doing lots of visitation with Baby Boy at that distance.
He'll be an ever-present visitor now. He smells dollar signs.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Elspeth on March 27, 2012, 09:22:36 PM
He'll be an ever-present visitor now. He smells dollar signs.

You cynical thing, you. :-)
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 28, 2012, 11:07:27 AM
Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant blasts CNN’s Roland Martin [VIDEO] (http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/27/former-naacp-leader-c-l-bryant-blasts-cnns-roland-martin-video/)

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Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant went head to head Tuesday with CNN’s Roland Martin over how black leaders have responded to the Feb. 26 Trayvon Martin killing.

In an interview with The Daily Caller Monday, Bryant, once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP, criticized Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of “exploiting” the Martin tragedy in order to “racially divide this country.”

But the CNN contributor took issue with Bryant, tweeting his disapproval multiple times. On Tuesday’s “Outfront with Erin Burnett” on CNN, Martin had an opportunity to push back against Bryant on live TV.

Roland Martin touted the accomplishments of the movement acting on behalf Trayvon Martin and noted that Bryant has focused on two individuals instead of the acts of the many.
Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/27/former-naacp-leader-c-l-bryant-blasts-cnns-roland-martin-video/)
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 28, 2012, 12:09:02 PM
Quote
Roland Martin touted the accomplishments of the movement acting on behalf Trayvon Martin and noted that Bryant has focused on two individuals instead of the acts of the many.
Like the gang of 0bamaites who trashed that drug store.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Wineslob on March 28, 2012, 12:11:40 PM
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Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.  



I'm busy with my own life. Don't care.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 28, 2012, 12:21:57 PM



I'm busy with my own life. Don't care.

The lying ass MSM has killed any sympathy I might have had for Trayvon.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Rebel on March 28, 2012, 12:24:35 PM
The lying ass MSM has killed any sympathy I might have had for Trayvon.

He did that all by himself once I learned of his "ghetto freestylin' skillz".
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Splashdown on March 28, 2012, 12:28:24 PM
The lying ass MSM has killed any sympathy I might have had for Trayvon.

I find the death of any young man or woman sad, tragic even. Whether he put himself in that position or not still makes me sad that he died. So I get the grief.

Where I part ways, of course, is assigning blame. And that's the problem. It's a shame the kid died. What a waste of life! It does not follow that we have to blame Mr. Zimmerman, who may have been defending himself.

All of this is stating the obvious, I guess, but it's weird you don't hear this on the airwaves.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Ballygrl on March 29, 2012, 12:55:06 PM
For those that Twitter, look at this:

@KillZimmerman
@BeheadZimmerman

These accounts have been reported and Twitter still hasn't removed them.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 29, 2012, 01:47:07 PM
That is a point that needs to be brought into the public view.

Pretty sure unless you watch or listen to Fox News, or Talk Radio, you ain't never, ever goin' to hear that in the media!

The fact that he has a broken nose and a lump on the back of his head, has been out there for a while.

Heard of that at all, sport?
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 29, 2012, 04:02:21 PM
Pretty sure unless you watch or listen to Fox News, or Talk Radio, you ain't never, ever goin' to hear that in the media!

The fact that he has a broken nose and a lump on the back of his head, has been out there for a while.

Heard of that at all, sport?

Yes, I have.  I read the pdf of the police report when it was first available.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Gina on March 30, 2012, 08:37:51 AM
He did that all by himself once I learned of his "ghetto freestylin' skillz".

word
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on March 30, 2012, 10:04:53 AM

I'll probably get shit for this but i don't care.I think what actually happened was that two wannabes...one a wannabe cop the other a wannabe gangster both apparently anti-social assholes crossed paths. One had a gun and one didn't. The outcome was predictable.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Maxiest on March 30, 2012, 10:07:32 AM
I'll probably get shit for this but i don't care.I think what actually happened was that two wannabes...one a wannabe cop the other a wannabe gangster both apparently anti-social assholes crossed paths. One had a gun and one didn't. The outcome was predictable.

 :racist:
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: BannedFromDU on March 30, 2012, 10:20:37 AM
I'll probably get shit for this but i don't care.I think what actually happened was that two wannabes...one a wannabe cop the other a wannabe gangster both apparently anti-social assholes crossed paths. One had a gun and one didn't. The outcome was predictable.


     Get shit? That's a hi-five. That's exactly what happened, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Gina on March 30, 2012, 10:47:25 AM
I'll probably get shit for this but i don't care.I think what actually happened was that two wannabes...one a wannabe cop the other a wannabe gangster both apparently anti-social assholes crossed paths. One had a gun and one didn't. The outcome was predictable.

 :leghump: <--------that's what you get from me! 
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Gina on March 30, 2012, 10:47:56 AM
:racist:

That looks like the photo that his family is trying to pass off for his 17yr old ass
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: DLR Pyro on March 30, 2012, 11:47:48 AM
That looks like the photo that his family is trying to pass off for his 17yr old ass
taken before he became No_Limit_Nigga.
Title: Re: Guys, there ARE serious questions about the Trayvon shooting. Let's be honest.
Post by: Gina on March 30, 2012, 11:48:53 AM
taken before he became No_Limit_Nigga.

I don't get why they use that word to describe themselves.  It's not taking a word back. It's keeping the word going so that people use it to describe you.   :mental: