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The Bar => The Lounge => Topic started by: seahorse513 on February 23, 2012, 07:09:35 PM
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Today, not sure why, but the children were misbehaving, and not in a good way...
They were fighting amonst each other(brothers and sisters) and crying tots who needed a nap desperately. Then there was this girl around 7 or 8, who had a high pitched whine that went right through me!!
Mom: No you can't have that toy!!
Child: But, but, MMmmmmmmmmmmmmmoooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmyyy!!!!!
Everyone else has one!!!!!
This went on for about 15 minutes!! I was twitching!!!
:argh: :argh: :argh:
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Whining can get to me like nothing else. Sounds like it was awful.
Grrrr. I have a co-worker who whines. The only fun I get out of that is that I'll drop a bunch of work on her desk while others are having to work nearby and walk away. I actually will save work up so I until others are stuck near her. Then they get stuck with her whining. Makes me chuckle. Someday the others are going to figure it out and I'll be in trouble. :-)
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Today's "parents". ::) My mom would have, and did, many times, whipped (whooped down here) my ass right in the middle of a store for acting out.
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I remember asking my mom for candy in the checkout lane... gum, candy bars. Stuff like that. She said no. That was the end of it. My parents never had any problem taking us out to eat or shopping. Hell, we got locked in the car while they were at the post office or pharmacy. The world didn't end, the car didn't blow up, nobody got arrested for abuse.
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Years ago, a good smack on the behind would cure that sort of thng.
Can't do that anymore.
Libs cry child abuse.
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My mom once smacked my brother's bare butt in a grocery store for demanding something...a lesson that affected all 3 of us. After that, Mom's threat was all it took to silence all of us.
Try that now, and you'll go to jail.
Of course, a good parent will leave the cart behind, take the kid to the car, and administer a little judicious correction. (Just hope Wal-Mart's cameras don't catch you.) I did that with my youngest...ONCE. After that, her whining at the checkout was quickly solved by whispering in her ear..."Want to go to the van before I pay, or after??" :-) :-)
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My mom once smacked my brother's bare butt in a grocery store for demanding something...a lesson that affected all 3 of us.
What was your mom doing taking your brother to the grocery store bare-butted? :whistling:
Sorry, had to. :-)
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I beat my kid's hineys more than once in public. One swat never killed anyone and never had the cops called.
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Years ago, a good smack on the behind would cure that sort of thng.
Can't do that anymore.
Libs cry child abuse.
Oh I don't know it seems to work for Gibbs.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqMUuOPsa0o[/youtube]
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I put the fear of God in my kids at a very early age. Never had a problem. Had more of a problem with morons in the stores than I did with my kids.
Once my boy needed to take a leak at the thrift store. He was 5 I think. They informed us that the bathroom was for employees only. I told them look, he's a 5 year old boy! Didin't matter.
So we walked out on the sidewalk in front of the store and he let loose against the building. They tried to make a stink, but even the manager understood when a little boy has to go, he has to go. He chewed out the stupid employee that wouldn't let him use their beloved toilet and made her go out and wipe up his puddle! Laughed my ass off!
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I should write a book on retail ettiquette!! Most of it will be common sense!!! I have observed afew things over the years. Some advice I would give to parents. If you want to go shopping, go right after a good breakfast with a small child. They are ready to begin their day. Do not spend more than necessary... 45 minutes!!! Do not bring the kids in right after school, bring them home , feed them a snack. I f you know your child is not good in a store, make a list, get in and get out!! Involve your child in the shopping, asking them about the colors on packages, if they are in preschool.bring a favored toy from home, snack and container of water. But above all else, supervise your child!!!!!!!!!!!!! More children get killed, kidnapped, or hurt, because their parents are oblivious!!!
I know children act out, they are human, however there are circumstances and prevention. Your children are well behaved, though Jess has said on occasion that Carleigh acts up. I am sure Victoria and Jeep(Gina's little ones) act up on occasion. Scoobe's children get distressed from time to time, I am sure, but everyone here is probably prepared and have good organizational skills as well...
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I should write a book on retail ettiquette!! Most of it will be common sense!!! I have observed afew things over the years. Some advice I would give to parents. If you want to go shopping, go right after a good breakfast with a small child. They are ready to begin their day. Do not spend more than necessary... 45 minutes!!! Do not bring the kids in right after school, bring them home , feed them a snack. I f you know your child is not good in a store, make a list, get in and get out!! Involve your child in the shopping, asking them about the colors on packages, if they are in preschool.bring a favored toy from home, snack and container of water. But above all else, supervise your child!!!!!!!!!!!!! More children get killed, kidnapped, or hurt, because their parents are oblivious!!!
I know children act out, they are human, however there are circumstances and prevention. Your children are well behaved, though Jess has said on occasion that Carleigh acts up. I am sure Victoria and Jeep(Gina's little ones) act up on occasion. Scoobe's children get distressed from time to time, I am sure, but everyone here is probably prepared and have good organizational skills as well...
We rarely have meltdowns in the grocery store/Walmart/Target. Usually it's just a little whining near the Cars 2 toys at Target. Our Walmart is set up so nicely near us, we never go past the toy section. It's like it doesn't even exist!
If Carleigh acts up and Heath & I are together, one of us will remove her from the situation for a little bit. If we're in the grocery store, usually just having Carleigh help me get items off the shelves works. She feels like a big girl and likes to pick out the food.
However, my daughter hasn't learned how to say, "BUT MOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!" I know those days are to come and I will deal with that when we get there. :rotf:
Whining irritates me though. I cannot just pretend the whining isn't happening.
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Insanity when it comes to kids,
5 year old riding a bike on the side walk decided to cross over into the street, a big NO_NO. went across of a car with senior citizens, they hit the bike, Daughter was thrown off bike, no problem but the drivers in the car came close to a heart attack.
Me, I ran to insure my child was safe and after a good Round of spanking and the child sent to their room and I had to deal with the driver and passenger in the car that were ashen and having problems breathing. Both were in in their 70's and shaking like a leaf.
Result the people driving that hit my child filed child abuses on me for spanking the child.
Years ago but the beginning of insanity for parents that correct a child other then send them to time out even if they disregard parents orders and can cause others to have to be injured.
ARGGGGGGG what to do.
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I hate that when it happens.
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I am STILL afraid of my Mama! :-)
She tanned my hide when I was growing up and it worked!
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And where does it all culminate?
I had to provide written counseling to a soldiers yesterday because she failed her 2-mile run and the test with it.
Of course she breaks downin in sobbing tears because I made her feel like a failure.
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And where does it all culminate?
I had to provide written counseling to a soldiers yesterday because she failed her 2-mile run and the test with it.
Of course she breaks downin in sobbing tears because I made her feel like a failure.
That's the point at which I hand her a tissue from the box that is pre-positioned, because I've seen that shit more than once, and continue with the counseling.
I pay no attention to the waterworks. It simply does not exist, unless the blubbering gets to the hiccup stage. At that point, I ask the miscreant to leave so she can compose herself and then to come back after that.
It's all professional, but there can be no doubt as to the message. PT failure is a fast track to being bounced out (which some of them want anyway). Happy to accommodate those folks if that's the end goal.
I ain't good with the wet-nursing shit. But if the miscreant needs extra training, that can (and usually is) arranged.
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And where does it all culminate?
I had to provide written counseling to a soldiers yesterday because she failed her 2-mile run and the test with it.
Of course she breaks downin in sobbing tears because I made her feel like a failure.
What did she expect you to do--bend the rules so she could pass?
She made herself into the failure. I know that you know that.
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:panic: Tears! Can't abide them from female nor male. Plus, there's no crying in baseball or military matters. :hammer: I apologize for her on womankind's behalf, or something like that. You know what I mean.
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And where does it all culminate?
I had to provide written counseling to a soldiers yesterday because she failed her 2-mile run and the test with it.
Of course she breaks downin in sobbing tears because I made her feel like a failure.
I had a young female troop pull that crap on me when I told her she wasn't being recommended for promotion to E-3. I ordered her to Parade Rest and commenced to chewing her out for losing her military bearing. I then proceeded to write her a written counseling statement for losing her military bearing.
I didn't give a damn about her delicate little ego.
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtSYZi7zd7A&feature=related[/youtube]
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What did she expect you to do--bend the rules so she could pass?
She made herself into the failure. I know that you know that.
I think it's a defense mechanism from genuine self-critique. I'm about over it though. I'm stuck in a ****ing garrison/TDA unit. This shit has been allowed to fester for so long most of the senior leadership sees this as SOP. If I give her the smoking she so richly deserves it'll be my ass in the crack. My only saving grace is my platoon sergeant wants her out because he showed-up at 0430 to do remedial PT with her and she stood him up.
He popped a gasket.
This guy has done 1 tour with the 82nd and 2 with 19th SF (support co) an is working his way into selection. He's not in the mood for her bullshit and neither am I but I think we're bailing against the tide. Once he goes it'll be lonely for ol' SGT Bunny.
I could tell you another story but all that would do would make me ashamed I haven't killed her yet.
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And where does it all culminate?
I had to provide written counseling to a soldiers yesterday because she failed her 2-mile run and the test with it.
Of course she breaks downin in sobbing tears because I made her feel like a failure.
What effects does it have on them in their career?
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I think it's a defense mechanism from genuine self-critique. I'm about over it though. I'm stuck in a ****ing garrison/TDA unit. This shit has been allowed to fester for so long most of the senior leadership sees this as SOP. If I give her the smoking she so richly deserves it'll be my ass in the crack. My only saving grace is my platoon sergeant wants her out because he showed-up at 0430 to do remedial PT with her and she stood him up.
He popped a gasket.
This guy has done 1 tour with the 82nd and 2 with 19th SF (support co) an is working his way into selection. He's not in the mood for her bullshit and neither am I but I think we're bailing against the tide. Once he goes it'll be lonely for ol' SGT Bunny.
I could tell you another story but all that would do would make me ashamed I haven't killed her yet.
OUCH!
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What effects does it have on them in their career?
A counseling statement for PT test failure? No effect on career unless she fails it in a twice in a row. At that point the CO is required to begin separation paperwork. At least that is how it worked in my day.
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I once threatened my kids with pastries. Yup.
We were at a Chinese restaurant and the kids ordered what they thought they wanted. They were like 4 and 5 at the time. When the food arrived they were horrified by what was placed before them. I think it was rice. heh.
Anyway I told them, "you'll either eat that or I'll make you eat pastries!" They said, "what's that?" I told them "if you don't eat what you ordered your going to find out."
They both ate their meal. We got outside and were getting into the truck when one of my kids asked "dad, what's pastries?" I said, it's like a donut. They said Uh Uh. I said yup. Ask your mom. They asked her and she confirmed what I told them. LOL Much laughter ensued.
:lmao:
KC
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OUCH!
OK, I have to get this off my chest or else I'll scream.
We were practicing IVs. We use each other. I was working with another soldier but she was only a couple of yards away.
She got a good stick. Hit the vein just right, which is 90% of the difficulty. You think that was awesom.
Well, she forgot to release the constricting band used to puff-up your veins prior to withdrawing the needle from the catheter. When that happens there is no small amount of blood running out of the patient. Heart is forcing blood down but constricting band keeps veins from returning and since the door is open it runs outside.
No big deal. Happens all the time, I've done it myself. You either just go ahead and connect the IV line (or saline lock) or pop the band while holding the vein north of the inserted cather and then attach the line.
Well, she couldn't find her saline lock. It was undere the wrapper for the needle/catheter set.
She got flustered.
She stormed off crying.
with the blood still running out of her training partner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another NCO jumped in and completed the connection.
I should have killed her when I had the chance.
I'm sorry, I've failed you all.
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OK, I have to get this off my chest or else I'll scream.
We were practicing IVs. We use each other. I was working with another soldier but she was only a couple of yards away.
She got a good stick. Hit the vein just right, which is 90% of the difficulty. You think that was awesom.
Well, she forgot to release the constricting band used to puff-up your veins prior to withdrawing the needle from the catheter. When that happens there is no small amount of blood running out of the patient. Heart is forcing blood down but constricting band keeps veins from returning and since the door is open it runs outside.
No big deal. Happens all the time, I've done it myself. You either just go ahead and connect the IV line (or saline lock) or pop the band while holding the vein north of the inserted cather and then attach the line.
Well, she couldn't find her saline lock. It was undere the wrapper for the needle/catheter set.
She got flustered.
She stormed off crying.
with the blood still running out of her training partner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another NCO jumped in and completed the connection.
I should have killed her when I had the chance.
I'm sorry, I've failed you all.
No, you didn't fail, they did!!! It seems alot of people aren't emotionally or mentally stable for military life. The team depends on each individual come together to be a unit. If she can't handle practice, how is she going to fair in a war zone when her team is depending on her to be cool, calm and collected??
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I am all for women in the military that can pull their own weight. I would hold men to the same standard. As an aside I never did understand why PT standards are lower for women.
Anyway, my personal standards took quite a beating my last few years in the military. I attended the infamous tailhook. My friend who was the accused groper had his career ruined before he had a chance to exonerate himself (GrBo). The Commanding officer of the Blue Angels (Cdr S.) had his career ruined when he had his command taken away as a result of unfounded accusations.
Every attendee was interrogated by the IG. It seems that an inordinate percentage of attendees had their careers stunted compared with their contemporaries who did not attend.
In the end not one accusation could be founded, just a lot of career carnage left in the wake. There is more of the tale that I could tell, but the end result for me was, if I saw an unknown female servicemember coming towards me I ducked away far prior to the time we would be close enough to make out each others features or descriptions. I never wanted them to be able to pick me out of a lineup (like they did my friend) just because they recognized me from some previous chance encounter. The ones I worked with on a daily basis, I made sure never to be alone with. Somewhat cowardly, but the almost daily assault of "sexual harassment" training beat me down I must admit. Besides, I came to realize that the tear faucet worked with a lot of superiors.
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What did she expect you to do--bend the rules so she could pass?
She made herself into the failure. I know that you know that.
Probably.
Any health problems with this soldier though, SGT Snuggle Bunny? I'm asking cuz I damn near flunked my 2-mile runs at the end of my 6 year "career". Ached so bad and couldn't breathe worth a damn and the more I tried to run extra, the worse I got. Diagnosed literally years later with fibromyalgia, arthritis and allergies severe enough to impact my lung functioning ability.
It was so humiliating to fall out of company runs and have everyone tell me to try harder.
OTOH, if she just doesn't try, light 'er up.
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OK, I have to get this off my chest or else I'll scream.
We were practicing IVs. We use each other. I was working with another soldier but she was only a couple of yards away.
She got a good stick. Hit the vein just right, which is 90% of the difficulty. You think that was awesom.
Well, she forgot to release the constricting band used to puff-up your veins prior to withdrawing the needle from the catheter. When that happens there is no small amount of blood running out of the patient. Heart is forcing blood down but constricting band keeps veins from returning and since the door is open it runs outside.
No big deal. Happens all the time, I've done it myself. You either just go ahead and connect the IV line (or saline lock) or pop the band while holding the vein north of the inserted cather and then attach the line.
Well, she couldn't find her saline lock. It was undere the wrapper for the needle/catheter set.
She got flustered.
She stormed off crying.
with the blood still running out of her training partner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another NCO jumped in and completed the connection.
I should have killed her when I had the chance.
I'm sorry, I've failed you all.
No need to apologize. You've only failed us when you let substandard troops like that continue to consume Army oxygen because it's easier to let them ets.
Counselings. Everyday if needed. Not just the bad, but the extraordinarily good stuff too. Build a packet that shows her to be substandard, and push it through. Someone, somewhere will give a rat's ass that she "sucks" (technical term I learned from CSM Bohn) and get her gone.
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Today's "parents". ::) My mom would have, and did, many times, whipped (whooped down here) my ass right in the middle of a store for acting out.
I do and have. Last weekend we were at Walmart. My little girl (3) saw a damn ****ing pink bunny rabbit toy and grabbed it. When we were leaving I told her to put it back and she started screaming and threw herself on the floor. BOYYYYYYYYY I grabbed that girl up by her arm and threw that damn rabbit. walked her out of the store to which she decided to let her legs go lifeless. I spanked that girl and told her she would get more if she didn't stop. Everyone seems like they were looking at me and I was waiting for someone to say something to me which WOULD not have been wise.
I beat the crap out of brats.
eta: I do love them though......I just have to beat them from time to time :hyper:
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I put the fear of God in my kids at a very early age. Never had a problem. Had more of a problem with morons in the stores than I did with my kids.
Once my boy needed to take a leak at the thrift store. He was 5 I think. They informed us that the bathroom was for employees only. I told them look, he's a 5 year old boy! Didin't matter.
So we walked out on the sidewalk in front of the store and he let loose against the building. They tried to make a stink, but even the manager understood when a little boy has to go, he has to go. He chewed out the stupid employee that wouldn't let him use their beloved toilet and made her go out and wipe up his puddle! Laughed my ass off!
That would have made an excellent youtube. :bwah:
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I got to say for the most part my kids were ok in public surroundings, a few act ups but they were kids. Both son & daughter got their britches dusted a few times in private & public.
My son is named for my father, so am I.
Around town a lot of times when someone sees me they greet me with "You are Paul's father are you. Back in the parents AO get greeted with "You are Paul's son aren't you. I just smile and say "Yes I'm Paul".
Makes me feel good when folks comment on how such good children we have raised
Also get commented on how much my son looks like me. Get commented on son,father,Grandfather & Great grandfather look alike.
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I do and have. Last weekend we were at Walmart. My little girl (3) saw a damn ****ing pink bunny rabbit toy and grabbed it. When we were leaving I told her to put it back and she started screaming and threw herself on the floor. BOYYYYYYYYY I grabbed that girl up by her arm and threw that damn rabbit. walked her out of the store to which she decided to let her legs go lifeless. I spanked that girl and told her she would get more if she didn't stop. Everyone seems like they were looking at me and I was waiting for someone to say something to me which WOULD not have been wise.
I beat the crap out of brats.
eta: I do love them though......I just have to beat them from time to time :hyper:
I might have . . . commended you for effectively dealing with the problem. :hi5:
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I might have . . . commended you for effectively dealing with the problem. :hi5:
Yeh, I love beating them :shucks:
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Yeh, I love beating them :shucks:
I know what you mean, Gina, and I know that you do not "love beating them." I also know that every now and then, kids need a swat. The Heiress is not immune from this. But, thankfully, she doesn't need "corrective action" like that, much. I'm certain that your kids are the same way.
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I know what you mean, Gina, and I know that you do not "love beating them." I also know that every now and then, kids need a swat. The Heiress is not immune from this. But, thankfully, she doesn't need "corrective action" like that, much. I'm certain that your kids are the same way.
My dad gave me the belt 2 x in my life. I love that man to death and it's not because I fear him. When they say "it's going to hurt me alot more than it's going to hurt you" I now know what that means.
I do give my son belt whippings once in a blue moon. To be honest I don't give him enough and it shows. I am the one that does the discipline since my hubby is apparently afraid that his kids will not like him anymore :whatever: I am the mean one as my 3yr old says. But I can give that girl a look and she will get in line.
I do always give a hug and kiss afterward though and make them say "Whose ya momma?" O-)
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My dad gave me the belt 2 x in my life. I love that man to death and it's not because I fear him. When they say "it's going to hurt me alot more than it's going to hurt you" I now know what that means.
I do give my son belt whippings once in a blue moon. To be honest I don't give him enough and it shows. I am the one that does the discipline since my hubby is apparently afraid that his kids will not like him anymore :whatever: I am the mean one as my 3yr old says. But I can give that girl a look and she will get in line.
I do always give a hug and kiss afterward though and make them say "Whose ya momma?" O-)
Gave you a high five baby-doll. I slaute you!!I wish more mothers or parents did that.
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Quote from Gina,
"I do give my son belt whippings once in a blue moon."
But do you know what a blue moon is ?
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My dad gave me the belt 2 x in my life. I love that man to death and it's not because I fear him. When they say "it's going to hurt me alot more than it's going to hurt you" I now know what that means.
I do give my son belt whippings once in a blue moon. To be honest I don't give him enough and it shows. I am the one that does the discipline since my hubby is apparently afraid that his kids will not like him anymore :whatever: I am the mean one as my 3yr old says. But I can give that girl a look and she will get in line.
I do always give a hug and kiss afterward though and make them say "Whose ya momma?" O-)
My Mother would grab whatever was handy at the time be it a metal handled flyswatter or wooden spoon. In severe asswhoopin times she would hand you a buther knife with instructions to go out back of the house and get a willow switch and you best not bring one back that breaks. Won't tell ya what warranted a willow switch asswhoopin but they were warranted.
My Father was the one with the vulcan mind control punishment. He would just say "Why did you do it" and then he shut up and just stared at you. I remember many times I would be thinking " kick my ass, yell at me, do something, don't make me suffer like this".
My father was the only person in the world I would not say no to, even the few times I wanted to so bad but wouldn't, couldn't Didn't.
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The Nuns took care of most of my shenanigans, as they used to call it.
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Yeah, Mom grabbed whatever was within reach and started chucking. A shoe, a rock, a coffee cup, an ashtray. Lotsa dents in the walls and maybe one or two in my head.....
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The Nuns took care of most of my shenanigans, as they used to call it.
I got whacked by a nun when I was about 5. All I remember was the sound.
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I got whacked by a nun when I was about 5. All I remember was the sound.
friend of mine spent 12 yrs in Catholic schools. he is in his 60's and says he still breaks out in a cold sweat whenever he sees a yardstick :hyper: