Bogart (178 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. The UN's push for an eco-fascist world government is what prevented the adoption of a sensible
climate change treaty.
It was the UN, not the third-world countries, that would have gotten the money. The fact that there was no provision for the UN to publish accounts of how it would spend the $100 billion/yr the draft called for, was a hard sell.
blindpig (11,252 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
3. so capitalist's interests had nothing to do with it?
The capitalist's powers saved humanity from UN tyranny?
Got black helicopters?
Bogart (178 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
10. Well, the West is capitalist and they (we) are interested in surviving;
so obvioulsy, we had something to do with it.
The so-called "Right to survive" and the "International Climate Court," would have had a genocidal effect on the West.
blindpig (11,252 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
14. "We?"
You got a mouse in your pocket? I for one do not identify with our capitalist master's death wish for our planet and the majority of humanity. Capitalism is having a 'genocidal effect' worldwide as we speak.
Bogart (178 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
15. Nonsense, capitalism facilitated the evolution of the most advanced civilizations in the history of
the world. Conversely, Hitler's and Stalin's socialism was responsible for its most horrific genocides.
blindpig (11,252 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
17. Yes, it has....
but at the cost of inflicting terrible hardship on most of humanity and wrecking our environment at a breakneck pace. It's time is necessarily past, we must take that productive capability and use it for the benefit of all humanity.
Hitler was not a socialist.
The misdeeds of "Stalin's socialism" have been fantastically exaggerated.
socialist_n_TN (6,371 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
23. For the mass of people, capitalism was slightly better than feudalism
But now it's outlived it usefulness and is turning into a neofeudalism. Time to take the next step.
socialist_n_TN (6,371 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
22. There ain't no "green" capitalism. Just like there ain't no
"conscious" capitalism or "compassionate" capitalism. It's ALL capitalism and it's bottom line is profit. "Green" policies get in the way of profit, so OF COURSE, it won't be instituted. Just like consciousness and compassion get in the way of profit and, as such, won't be instituted.
All of these different "types" of capitalism are just marketing schemes to make an anti-people system more palateable for a little while longer. So the 1% can make more profit.
blindpig (11,252 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
24. Big problem with the environmental movement....
is that it is entirely conceived within the structure of capitalism. That'll never, ever work, the scant success of the movement over 40 years is testimony to this intractable constraint.
socialist_n_TN (6,371 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
28. That's actually the big problem with ALL of the single issue
"movements". They don't put their grievences in a meta context. Which Marxism does. The political, social and economics are ALL interrelated and boil down to ownership. Whoever owns the means of production owns it ALL and you're not going to be able to get any significient changes done UNTIL you have economic democracy. That's when you'll see enviromental changes that actually WORK for the rest of us. And social changes for various oppressed minorities (including religious minorities I might add) that work for the rest of us. And political changes that results in a purer form of democracy that benefits ALL of us and not just the owners.
ALL these single issue problems, no matter how grievious, have to be placed in the context of economic democracy. That is the biggest achievement of the Occupy movement to this point. They HAVE placed everything in the meta context of economic injustice. It's just a short step from economic injustice to the SOLUTION for economic injustice. That's economic democracy.
I will make it simple for you to understand since you are an idiot...you try to take away what I have worked hard for,you will find yourself with a bullet in your skull.
Nutcase nadin went through a phase of using "meta" a couple of times in every post.
It was just after her "trend" phase, and just before her "occupy" phase.
Many DUmpmonkeys think anything nadin does must be cool and intellectual, so they do it too.
The new Pay-to-Pay DUmp even has a "meta discussion" group.
None of them, including nadin, know what it means.
Nutcase nadin went through a phase of using "meta" a couple of times in every post.
It was just after her "trend" phase, and just before her "occupy" phase.
Many DUmpmonkeys think anything nadin does must be cool and intellectual, so they do it too.
The new Pay-to-Pay DUmp even has a "meta discussion" group.
None of them, including nadin, know what it means.
Do these idiots actually know what 'meta' means, or are they all using the prefix now because its fashionable ?
"They don't put their grievences in a meta context"
"they HAVE placed everything in the meta context of economic injustice"
"Meta" is a self-referring term, meaning that the word it is affixed to is somehow contained within itself -
examples -
a metadream would be when one dreams about dreaming
to metastudy would be when one studies about studying
metamanagement is when one manages managers..
etc etc etc...
so - metacontext is to put contextual things within context - which is all well and good - except it has nothing to do with the author's point.. I suspect the primitive is looking at the prefix 'meta' as meaning 'focused' - which is wrong.
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blindpig (11,252 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
17. Yes, it has....
but at the cost of inflicting terrible hardship on most of humanity and wrecking our environment at a breakneck pace. It's time is necessarily past, we must take that productive capability and use it for the benefit of all humanity.
Hitler was not a socialist.
The misdeeds of "Stalin's socialism" have been fantastically exaggerated.
Nutcase nadin went through a phase of using "meta" a couple of times in every post.
It was just after her "trend" phase, and just before her "occupy" phase.
Many DUmpmonkeys think anything nadin does must be cool and intellectual, so they do it too.
The new Pay-to-Pay DUmp even has a "meta discussion" group.
None of them, including nadin, know what it means.
So where did "rubicon" fit in this timeline? :lmao: Metaphorically speaking, of course. :lmao:
DUmbshit longpig is just begging for some Ukranian to school him - with a punch to the throat, preferably - on the holodomor.
blindpig (11,252 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail IgnoreWish the sightless swinette would take a moment to tell us where the term "nazi", came from. :whistling:
17. Yes, it has....
but at the cost of inflicting terrible hardship on most of humanity and wrecking our environment at a breakneck pace. It's time is necessarily past, we must take that productive capability and use it for the benefit of all humanity.
Hitler was not a socialist.
The misdeeds of "Stalin's socialism" have been fantastically exaggerated.
Wish the sightless swinette would take a moment to tell us where the term "nazi", came from. :whistling:
Wish the sightless swinette would take a moment to tell us where the term "nazi", came from. :whistling: