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The Bar => Sports => Topic started by: ChuckJ on November 23, 2011, 03:14:18 PM
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As a Georgian I was naturally not a big Tebow fan when he was at Florida. Since he's been in the NFL I've been kind of on the fence. After reading yet another sports reporter essentially putting him down I checked his stats against Michael Vick's stats when he came into the NFL. When you compare their first year stats it looks like Tebow's stats are actually better than Vick's. So why was their reception into the NFL so different?
I remember Vick's first few years in the NFL. He was viewed by most as the greatest thing on earth from the time he first set foot on an NFL field until the dog fighting deal. Tebow, on the other hand, has been ridiculed by most since he first took the field in the NFL.
When I say "by most" I'm talking about the sports press and the NFL alleged powers-that-be.
I'm not saying the Tebow is an NFL great. He's still far from it. I just wonder why there's a complete separation in regards to how the two players are viewed.
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It's that he is a devout Christian. They ridicule him for thanking Jesus for his success. If he were a criminal he'd be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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It's that he is a devout Christian. They ridicule him for thanking Jesus for his success. If he were a criminal he'd be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
I guess the way he chooses to celebrate is not to their liking. These detractors would rather see players jump up and down like a caged monkey. These same liberal jerks have not criticized Albert Pujols when he points to the sky after scoring or getting a hit.
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I guess the way he chooses to celebrate is not to their liking. These detractors would rather see players jump up and down like a caged monkey. These same liberal jerks have not criticized Albert Pujols when he points to the sky after scoring or getting a hit.
Don't bet on that. If they knew he was conservative, they might.
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As a Georgian I was naturally not a big Tebow fan when he was at Florida. Since he's been in the NFL I've been kind of on the fence. After reading yet another sports reporter essentially putting him down I checked his stats against Michael Vick's stats when he came into the NFL. When you compare their first year stats it looks like Tebow's stats are actually better than Vick's. So why was their reception into the NFL so different?
I remember Vick's first few years in the NFL. He was viewed by most as the greatest thing on earth from the time he first set foot on an NFL field until the dog fighting deal. Tebow, on the other hand, has been ridiculed by most since he first took the field in the NFL.
When I say "by most" I'm talking about the sports press and the NFL alleged powers-that-be.
I'm not saying the Tebow is an NFL great. He's still far from it. I just wonder why there's a complete separation in regards to how the two players are viewed.
Vick is a pro-style QB that can run. Tebow is a half-back playing QB that performs poorly in the pocket. When he's successful, it's normally from the shotgun and that's unorthodox in the NFL. However, if anyone can make it work, it'll be Tebow.
Also, Vick has a helluva arm on him. Tebow, as big as he is, just doesn't have the arm strength to accurately throw the ball pass 30 yards.
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Vick is a pro-style QB that can run. Tebow is a half-back playing QB that performs poorly in the pocket. When he's successful, it's normally from the shotgun.
I can agree with that, but I remember Vick first few years in Atlanta. I think when comparing Vick's first couple of years to Tebow's first couple of years it would be more accurate to say that Vick was (remember I'm talking about his start in the NFL) a pro-style QB that could run but didn't pass very well. Tebow is a half-back playing QB who can't pass very well.
In essence, their first couple of years were/are very similar. Both could run. Neither had much success throwing. So I'm still left wondering why the two received such different receptions from the press. As a matter of fact, I think if you compare losing the ball (int & fumbles) Tebow actually has better stats than Vick had in his first couple of Atlanta years.
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I can agree with that, but I remember Vick first few years in Atlanta. I think when comparing Vick's first couple of years to Tebow's first couple of years it would be more accurate to say that Vick was (remember I'm talking about his start in the NFL) a pro-style QB that could run but didn't pass very well. Tebow is a half-back playing QB who can't pass very well.
In essence, their first couple of years were/are very similar. Both could run. Neither had much success throwing. So I'm still left wondering why the two received such different receptions from the press. As a matter of fact, I think if you compare losing the ball (int & fumbles) Tebow actually has better stats than Vick had in his first couple of Atlanta years.
He took Atlanta to the playoffs a few years as well when Atlanta wasn't known as a typical good team, like my Saints. Last time was with the Crystal Chandelier and an 80 year old backup. Then again, it could have something to do with the media wanting to shed the notion that the QB position is a white person's position. If that's the case, they need to saddle their wagons to Scam. I didn't think he was that good but, after watching him at Carolina, he's damn good, even though they haven't been that successful.
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He took Atlanta to the playoffs a few years as well when Atlanta wasn't known as a typical good team, like my Saints. Last time was with the Crystal Chandelier and an 80 year old backup. Then again, it could have something to do with the media wanting to shed the notion that the QB position is a white person's position. If that's the case, they need to saddle their wagons to Scam. I didn't think he was that good but, after watching him at Carolina, he's damn good, even though they haven't been that successful.
Newton has impressed me also. He's doing MUCH better than I figured he would. My wife can't stand him. She says he seems too arrogant to her.
With Vick, I never really liked him in Atlanta. I never viewed him as a passer. I was actually surprised last year with his performance in Philly.
I just think if I had to pick between Vick of 2001/2002 or Tebow that I'd pick Tebow every time simply because he seems to be more of a team player. I do honestly wonder if his race has played a role in the hard time he's getting since a white heterosexual Christian male seems to be the bane of the politically correct world.
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I've personally seen very little detracters from this "Messiah" and a hell of a lot of praise. Way more than there should be for this running back. I say that, because he's like another NFL player I knew:
http://www.nfl.com/player/kordellstewart/2503142/profile
His overall rating should read about the same when he's done in the NFL too. Oh noooo though, he insists he's a QB. Instead of actually doing something in the running game, he insists he's a field general. I heartily disagree. Eric Decker, and Co. make him look good. The game a couple weeks ago was MaGahee's through, and through. Had a 100+ ground game with two TDs. The reason I hate him is because he supposedly "wins" when the game is on the line, they're down at the goal line, and he squeaks one itty bitty TD in from like...the two yard line. BULL!
He's going to be either nothing special, or someone like Ray Lewis, or DeMarcus Ware is going to end his career. Period.
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I've personally seen very little detracters from this "Messiah" and a hell of a lot of praise. Way more than there should be for this running back. I say that, because he's like another NFL player I knew:
http://www.nfl.com/player/kordellstewart/2503142/profile
His overall rating should read about the same when he's done in the NFL too. Oh noooo though, he insists he's a QB. Instead of actually doing something in the running game, he insists he's a field general. I heartily disagree. Eric Decker, and Co. make him look good. The game a couple weeks ago was MaGahee's through, and through. Had a 100+ ground game with two TDs. The reason I hate him is because he supposedly "wins" when the game is on the line, they're down at the goal line, and he squeaks one itty bitty TD in from like...the two yard line. BULL!
He's going to be either nothing special, or someone like Ray Lewis, or DeMarcus Ware is going to end his career. Period.
You don't understand Tebow. He's a natural competitor that will NEVER give up. He's also a born leader. I'm not a Tebow fanatic, but the guy wins. It's what he does. The other guys you talked about will give up when they're down. Tebow doesn't give up. Period. When he lost to my Rebels he said he wouldn't lose another game. He didn't lose another game. His style is unorthodox as hell, but he gets the job done, either by his RB's, TE's, and WR's, or by himself. It's hard to stop a 6'3", 240 LB QB when he decides to run. ...and he's not a fatass. That 240 pounds is all muscle. I've seen him run THROUGH a Florida State defensive back.
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No, no, no, he's no JaMarcus Russell by any means. I just don't like him, don't think he's fit for the position he plays, and there's no changing my mind on this one. :tongue:
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No, no, no, he's no JaMarcus Russell by any means. I just don't like him, don't think he's fit for the position he plays, and there's no changing my mind on this one. :tongue:
Thank goodness he is no J. Russell who was a dud at QB for the Raiders. The fans and the Denver players like him and that is what counts.....not some atheist or some yo yo sports writer. As far as being fit for the position, the owner and the coaches will determine that, not you.
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Hey, I'm just a football fan. I determine who makes the cut, and who doesn't in my own mind. That's all.
I have a feeling though that Elway is going to be disappointed in the long run.
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Rev, I don't think that Elway's going to be disappointed. As has been stated by a lot of us in this thread, all Tebow does is win. It may not be pretty, or flashy, but wins by being pretty or flashy count just as much as wins by plowing ahead and breaking through the obstacles.
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Tis true, and I'm not disputing that. I just don't like the guy. Everyone has someone that rubs them the wrong way. Tebow has since I watched him off, and on before he got drafted.
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Tis true, and I'm not disputing that. I just don't like the guy. Everyone has someone that rubs them the wrong way. Tebow has since I watched him off, and on before he got drafted.
And now he's 5-1. :???: :thatsright: :fuelfire:
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The Broncos make the playoffs and Tebow irritates Revolution for another week. :lmao:
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The Broncos make the playoffs and Tebow irritates Revolution for another week. :lmao:
H5 :cheersmate: :lmao: :yahoo:
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And now he's 5-1. :???: :thatsright: :fuelfire:
****!
The Broncos make the playoffs and Tebow irritates Revolution for another week
I like the Broncos, but I just can't bring myself to like Tebow. (except when he says "Thank you to my Lord, and Savior Jesus Christ" and gets all the media people all wee wee'd up. That's awesome) They may make the playoffs, but I feel that's unlikely.
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...and then he was 6-1.
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****!
Yeah, that covers it...again.
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Denver and Tebow has made a believer out of a bunch of folks. The kid is getting better every game and lest not forget he is a rookie. They will make the playoffs; Tebow instills confidence and he is a winner.
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He had a QB rating of 149.3 yesterday. How sick is that when the highest you can go is 158.3? Didn't get to watch the game here in the Augusta market, but he was making some damn good passes looking at the replays.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13200/tim-tebow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passer_rating
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All he does is . . . just win.
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All he does is . . . just win.
Wait until he loses, which is all but guaranteed to happen at least once or twice. All the Tebow haters will come out in droves screaming, "See! I told you he sucked!"
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Still like to ask you guys a question: Who has the lowest pass completion rating of any QB out there as of now in the NFL? :tongue: :fuelfire:
:-)
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Still like to ask you guys a question: Who has the lowest pass completion rating of any QB out there as of now in the NFL? :tongue: :fuelfire:
:-)
In the NFL? Don't know, but it isn't Tebow. His is low, but it's not the lowest. Do tell.
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I watched a little of the start of the Broncos game and some of the end. It was an exciting game near the end and I would have been willing for the Packer game to start late in order to see how it went.
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In the NFL? Don't know, but it isn't Tebow. His is low, but it's not the lowest. Do tell.
Yes it is, Reb. Just saw the list of the bottom today on NFL Network. Blaine Gabbart is ahead of him for cripes sake.
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To me the only stat that means anything is how many you have in the win column.
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To me the only stat that means anything is how many you have in the win column.
Yeah, what's that stat, Revolution? :stirpot:
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Anywho...rumor has it that old man Favre may be going to the Bears. Hainie isn't doing them any favors, but I doubt it happens. But go ahed, Favre. I'm sure the Packers would just hate to leave you busted up on your back once more. :fuelfire:
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Anywho...rumor has it that old man Favre may be going to the Bears. Hainie isn't doing them any favors, but I doubt it happens. But go ahed, Favre. I'm sure the Packers would just hate to leave you busted up on your back once more. :fuelfire:
Cool. When he retires from there all he has to do is wait for Stafford to get hurt then he can complete his run at QBing the entire Frozen league.
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And Brett Favre relates to Tim Tebow exactly how?........
Just sayin'.......
Rev, don't fret. I honestly couldn't give a shit less about football or sports in general. I just like watching the verbal fisticuffs on this thread. :-)
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And Brett Favre relates to Tim Tebow exactly how?........
Just sayin'.......
Rev, don't fret. I honestly couldn't give a shit less about football or sports in general. I just like watching the verbal fisticuffs on this thread. :-)
Liberals hate Christians.
Tebow is a Christian.
Therefore, Liberals hate Tebow.
Rev also hates Tebow. Therefore, I guess Rev is a liberal.
Oh no I di'int!!!
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That could be the most hurtful thing you've ever said to me, you monster.
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Liberals hate Christians.
Tebow is a Christian.
Therefore, Liberals hate Tebow.
Rev also hates Tebow. Therefore, I guess Rev is a liberal.
Oh no I di'int!!!
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+1. Rev, go ahead and man up. It's not sightly watching a grown man cry. :lmao: :cheersmate:
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Hahaha. I was joking.
Could have used :sarcasm: <---that though, I guess. :thatsright:
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Hahaha. I was joking.
Could have used :sarcasm: <---that though, I guess. :thatsright:
Nah, I got it. :wink:
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Down 10-0 in the fourth with 7:something left to play . . . Denver ties it with :03 in regulation, and they win it in overtime. He's 7-1 now. 'Course, Marion Barbour making those two mistakes didn't exactly help Chicago, but them's the breaks . . .
Denver is going to win the Super Bowl in the next three years because of Tebow. Bet on it (I'm not Will Pitt, either).
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First we must see how he deals with a big loss. We also must watch the complete meltdown with fans when he gets a big loss. Denver fans on my Facebook are over the top obnoxious these days.
"Suck it, haters!"
"Tebownage!"
I'm of the belief that Denver fans shouldn't put all their eggs in one basket, but they are. The catastrophic fall from temporary glory will be amazing. Bet on it.
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He done done it again.
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Good God, no, I really mean, Good God. Eventually you have to think he has something to do with it. Damn, 10-0 in the 4th, and you win 13-10? WTH?
Oh, BTW Rev....
7-1. :stirpot:
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Tebow is not black,,,the plan is to have an all black QB staff along with all black coaches...remember what happened to Limbaugh when he made a comment about a black quartreback,Donavan McNabb I believe....
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Tebow is not black,,,the plan is to have an all black QB staff along with all black coaches...remember what happened to Limbaugh when he made a comment about a black quartreback,Donavan McNabb I believe....
Rush's point was addressing the media's need to have a prototypical black quarterback to excel, not an unorthodox white QB. Rush never made mention of Vick, because he played his own game as a running QB. McNabb was not a running QB, but a pro-style passer.
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I beginning to think that if Tebow played the entire game the way he plays the end of the game he could be one of the top QBs in the NFL.
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I beginning to think that if Tebow played the entire game the way he plays the end of the game he could be one of the top QBs in the NFL.
Yup. I think I heard that he was 15/20 passing in the 4th Quarter.
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First we must see how he deals with a big loss. We also must watch the complete meltdown with fans when he gets a big loss. Denver fans on my Facebook are over the top obnoxious these days.
"Suck it, haters!"
"Tebownage!"
I'm of the belief that Denver fans shouldn't put all their eggs in one basket, but they are. The catastrophic fall from temporary glory will be amazing. Bet on it.
Well, I don't know about big loss in the NFL, but his last big loss in college inspired him to pick up the rest of his team and carry them to the national championship and damn near repeat as a Heisman winner.
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Well, I don't know about big loss in the NFL, but his last big loss in college inspired him to pick up the rest of his team and carry them to the national championship and damn near repeat as a Heisman winner.
Yep. When he lost to my Rebels it motivated the hell out of him to win a national championship.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlIQFf7A5wY[/youtube]
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/57/year/2008/florida-gators
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BTW, he's already had a big loss in the NFL. He lost to the Lions 45-10. He's undefeated since then.
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[youtube=425,350]zMK9FKMG3Nc[/youtube]
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I don't watch football, nor am I religious, but I can't help but feel a little happiness with each win his team racks up. It's only because I know it pisses off the anti-Christian left.
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I don't watch football, nor am I religious, but I can't help but feel a little happiness with each win his team racks up. It's only because I know it pisses off the anti-Christian left.
You would not believe the vitriol I see coming from the "tolerant" left about this kid.
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I'll just make it clear that I'm a God-fearing woman. The fact that Tebow is a virgin that prays for wins matters not.
My issue is Denver fans. This comes from a Chiefs fan, so you can understand my complete irritation. My teams sucks though, and I readily admit it.
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Sorry about having to play us Sunday, Minky. It really doesn't bode well for you fans of KC. Even with Jennings out. ESPECIALLY since you guys just fired Haley. The W stats for a team that fires their HC in the regular season aren't real good. :fuelfire: :tongue:
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I'll just make it clear that I'm a God-fearing woman. The fact that Tebow is a virgin that prays for wins matters not.
My issue is Denver fans. This comes from a Chiefs fan, so you can understand my complete irritation. My teams sucks though, and I readily admit it.
Tell me about it. I'm a Seahawks fan living in the midst of Bronco Country. I've still got my "Bronco Buster" tee shirt from when I was a kid (watching one game a year at the Kingdome with my dadPBUH). My 'Hawks let their "knows how to get championship performance" coach go, and then have the temerity to trade off the best QB they've EVER had: now that QB is having a great year with his NEW team (God bless you, Matt Hasselbeck), and the 'Hawks are tied for 2nd place in the division with a 6 and 7 record... :banghead:
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Sorry about having to play us Sunday, Minky. It really doesn't bode well for you fans of KC. Even with Jennings out. ESPECIALLY since you guys just fired Haley. The W stats for a team that fires their HC in the regular season aren't real good. :fuelfire: :tongue:
Thank you for your condolences. They are appreciated....and warranted. The Chiefs blow. Haley's play calling was horrible. And Palko....don't get me started on Palko. Ugh! I'm drinking Captain Morgan just to dull the pain of being a lifelong Chiefs fan.
Friggin' Denver. Remember that time they beat us in the playoffs by rubbing Vaseline all over their arms and chests? Assholes, all of 'em! I did have a positive experience one time with Denver fans. I was in Denver back in the mid 90s for work and happened to be there a Sunday that the Chiefs were playing in Denver. I wore my KC colors and headed to the bar after being warned that wasn't a very smart idea. Well, I'm not THAT kind of fan. Anyway, the Chiefs ended up winning a tight game and at the end the Denver fans bought me tons of beer because I wasn't obnoxious. They were really good sports. God love 'em, they aren't totally lost.
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Beer from behind enemy lines? That's a win right there. :cheersmate:
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All quite on the Tebow front after getting his panties pulled down by Brady...
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I'll just make it clear that I'm a God-fearing woman. The fact that Tebow is a virgin that prays for wins matters not.
My issue is Denver fans. This comes from a Chiefs fan, so you can understand my complete irritation. My teams sucks though, and I readily admit it.
Congratulations to the Chiefs for having a team that played an entire four quarters of football on Sunday. If the Packers ever did show up that day, I hope some gracious Chiefs fans showed them the way back to the airport.
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Thank you! It would've been even more awesome had I actually picked the Chiefs to win. *grumble*
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Thank you! It would've been even more awesome had I actually picked the Chiefs to win. *grumble*
It is a sure sign the favored team is going to lose if nobody can envision it.
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Bah Humbug! Now we just need to focus on those dastardly Bears. If the Seahawks could upset the 49ers, that's be a great Christmas gift too. :)
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Bah Humbug! Now we just need to focus on those dastardly Bears. If the Seahawks could upset the 49ers, that's be a great Christmas gift too. :)
I couldn't believe how bad the Steelers played Monday night.
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Yeah sad. However, I've always heartily disliked the Squealers. Now I know moreso why. Couldn't even win ONE game for us to lock up homefield! :mad:
Oh, and I'm pretty sure other teams are going to be taking pages out of the Pats book on how to stop Tebow now. Sack, sack, sakity, sack. :fuelfire:
He made a couple good throws, but we'll just have to see in the coming years if he can ACTUALLY play pocket QB, cause last Sunday, he was...sub-par.
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:rofl:
Another full week of hating, Rev!
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:rofl:
Another full week of hating, Rev!
And, Tebow had 316 yards passing . . . ! O-) :fuelfire: :whistling:
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He made a couple good throws, but we'll just have to see in the coming years if he can ACTUALLY play pocket QB, cause last Sunday, he was...sub-par.
is he still sub-par...
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is he still sub-par...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/sadiesinner/forums/teb.jpg)
You forgot to add one thing, Rugnuts . . .
W
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You forgot to add one thing, Rugnuts . . .
W
It's hard to see a grown man cry. :rotf: :fuelfire: :-)
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Here are a few goals for Tebow to shoot for:
NFL records
Wins
Fewest starts to achieve 100 regular-season wins as a starter (131 starts)
Most wins with one head coach (124, Bill Belichick).[79]
Most consecutive wins, postseason: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004, 2005)
Most consecutive wins, regular season and postseason: 21 (2003–2004)
Most consecutive wins in regular-season home games: 31 (2006–2011)
Most seasons finishing 8–0 at home: 5 (2003, 2004, 2007, 2009, 2010)
Only quarterback to start and win 3 Super Bowls before his 28th birthday
Touchdowns
Most passing touchdowns, regular season: 50 (2007)
Most passing touchdowns, regular season and postseason combined: 56 (2007)
Most touchdown passes, month: 20 (October 2007)
Most passing touchdowns, quarter: 5 (second quarter vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009)
Largest touchdown to interception differential: +42 (2007)
Highest touchdown to interception ratio, season: 9.0 to 1 (36 TD/4 INT, 2010)
Highest touchdown pass–interception ratio, career: 2.52-1 (260 TD/103 INT)
Most games with 3+ touchdown passes, regular season: 12 (2007)
Most consecutive games with 5+ touchdown passes: 2 (2007) (tied with Daunte Culpepper)
Most consecutive games with 3+ touchdown passes: 10 (2007)
Most consecutive games with 2+ touchdown passes: 13 (tied with Peyton Manning)
Most consecutive games with 2+ touchdown passes and no interceptions: 9 (2010, October 24 – 2011, September 12)
Most games with 1 touchdown pass and no interceptions, season: 14 (2010)
Most games with 2 touchdown passes and no interceptions, season: 11 (2010)
Most games with 3 touchdown passes and no interceptions, season: 8 (2007)
Most games with 4 touchdown passes and no interceptions, season: 5 (2007)
Most games with 4 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career: 12 – tied with Brett Favre
Most games with 5 touchdown passes and no interceptions, season: 3 (2007)
Most games with 5 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career: 4 – tied with Peyton Manning
Most games with 6 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career 2 – tied with Peyton Manning
Completions
Highest single-game completion percentage, postseason: 92.9% (vs. Jacksonville, January 12, 2008)[80]
Most completions in a Super Bowl: 32 - tied with Drew Brees (XXXVIII)
Most career Super Bowl completions: 100 (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLII)
Largest completion–interception ratio, season: 81.0-1 (324-4) (minimum 150 completions), 2010
Most games with 20 completions and no interceptions, season: 10 (2007)
Most games with 30 completions and no interceptions, career: 9 – tied with Drew Brees
Most games with 30 completions and no interceptions, season: 5 (2007)
Most games with 50 pass attempts and no interceptions, career: 3
Yards
Largest passing yards–interception ratio, career: 337.3-1 (34,744-103) (minimum 20,000 passing yards)
Largest passing yards–interception ratio, season: 975.0-1 (3,900-4) (minimum 2,000 passing yards), 2010
Most games with 300 yards passing and no interceptions, season: 8 (2007)
Interception-free streaks and interception percentage
Most consecutive pass attempts to start a career without an interception: 162 (2000–2001)
Most consecutive pass attempts without an interception, regular season: 358 (2010, October 24 – 2011, September 12)
Third-lowest interception percentage (interceptions per attempt), career: 2.19% (Aaron Rodgers ranks first @ 1.99%; Neil O'Donnell is second @ 2.11%)
Personal bests
Excluding the list of NFL records above:
Highest single-game quarterback rating: 158.3 (at Miami, October 21, 2007 and at Detroit, November 25, 2010) Perfect Rating
Highest single-season quarterback rating: 117.2 (2007) 2nd highest all-time
Most passing touchdowns, game: 6 (at Miami, October 21, 2007 and vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009)
Most passing yards, game: 517 (at Miami, September 12, 2011)
Most passing yards, season: 5,235 (2011)
Lowest interception total, season (minimum 2 starts): 4 (2010)
Most consecutive games with 1+ touchdown passes: 29 (2010-present) 5th all-time
Most consecutive uninterrupted games with 1+ touchdown passes: 29 (2010-present) 2nd all-time
Most consecutive playoff games with 1+ touchdown passes: 17 (2002-present) 2nd all-time
21-game win streak statistics (including post-season)
690 passes attempted
412 passes completed
4,953 passing yards
34 passing touchdowns
13 passes intercepted
20.29 passing attempts per touchdown
53.07 passing attempts per interception
59.71 completion rate
90.3 passer rating
Career
124–35 (.780) (regular season), 138–40 (.775) (career) as a starter
8–1 (career) in overtime games
37–7 (career) vs. NFC teams
33 game-winning drives after a Patriots' fourth-quarter tie or deficit
Post-season records and statistics
NFL record for most consecutive wins in post season: 10 (broke record of Green Bay's Bart Starr).
Most consecutive post season wins (college and professional combined): 12
3 Super Bowl victories
2 Super Bowl MVP awards
Most completions in a Super Bowl (32 in Super Bowl XXXVIII)
Most career Super Bowl completions (100 in four games)
Highest completion percentage in a single game, minimum 20 attempts (26 of 28, 92.9%, against Jacksonville in 2007 AFC Divisional round)
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And, Tebow had 316 yards passing . . . ! O-) :fuelfire: :whistling:
Starting to get freaky.
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The fact that Tebow had 316 yards passing and averaged 31.6 yards per pass in the game didn't escape notice on Sunday night. Tebow wore "John 3:16" on his eye black in the 2009 BCS Championship game and has since become identified with the famous Bible message. The coincidental stats caused millions of fans to perform Google searches on the Bible passage in the past 24 hours. Here's one more unbelievable stat: John Ourand of Sports Business Journal reports that the final quarter-hour television rating for the Broncos-Steelers game was, you guessed it, 31.6.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/shutdown-corner/tebow-time-three-3-16-references-boffo-tv-172145772.html
I don't know if I want my Saints to play them in the Superbowl. God might strike Brees dead.
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Did you hear John Parr's remake of "Man In Motion (St. Elmo's Fire)?"
Instead of "St. Elmo's Fire" in the lyrics, . . .
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Yup. "Tim Tebow's Fire." Cheezy, but it doesn't sound that bad (I heard a clip this morning).
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Starting to get freaky.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/shutdown-corner/tebow-time-three-3-16-references-boffo-tv-172145772.html
I don't know if I want my Saints to play them in the Superbowl. God might strike Brees dead.
Austin 3:16 says he just whipped Tebow's ass!
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Who paints the numbers on? That must be hard to do in the mirror.
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Austin 3:16 says he just whipped Tebow's ass!
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My money would be on Tebow. Not the "entertainer".
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Who paints the numbers on? That must be hard to do in the mirror.
He writes them on before pulling them off the paper. Many use eye black stickers these days.
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IIRC, the NCAA "outlawed" messages on eyeblack the a couple of years ago....
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IIRC, the NCAA "outlawed" messages on eyeblack the a couple of years ago....
They did. he "Tebow Rule". Brady has his own sets of rules also; they just apply to defensive players. Every time someone hits his fragile ass, he complains and gets a rule made. :stirpot:
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My money would be on Tebow. Not the "entertainer".
Really. I never pegged Tebow as someone who would do well in a bar fight or any other fight. He just doesn't look like he has that kind of instinct.
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Really. I never pegged Tebow as someone who would do well in a bar fight or any other fight. He just doesn't look like he has that kind of instinct.
Pretty sure he wouldn't sit there and get his ass kicked.
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Pretty sure he wouldn't sit there and get his ass kicked.
He doesn't look like they type that would start a fight, which is something that can't be said about a lot of other players.
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No, he doesn't. My point though is that he doesn't look to me like the kinda guy that could hold his own in one either. I don't know for certain, but like I said, he just doesn't have that natural look in his eye. That fighter's instinct.
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My point though is that he doesn't look to me like the kinda guy that could hold his own in one either. I don't know for certain, but like I said, he just doesn't have that natural look in his eye. That fighter's instinct.
Are you f'n kidding? Tebow is ALL fight. You're the first person I've ever seen make that asinine claim. You apparently haven't watched him play football in college. He would run over defensive backs. He's done the same in the NFL.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-jSnoxJ1zM[/youtube]
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Hate on Tebow all you want, but you don't have to make shit up.
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Now Rodgers on the other hand....
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Tebow is a scrapper...no question.
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Are you f'n kidding? Tebow is ALL fight. You're the first person I've ever seen make that asinine claim. You apparently haven't watched him play football in college. He would run over defensive backs. He's done the same in the NFL.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-jSnoxJ1zM[/youtube]
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Hate on Tebow all you want, but you don't have to make shit up.
I know you like Tebow Reb, but there's a clear difference from making a nice vert jump at the Combine, or even running over a defender on the field as opposed to throwing down in a bar. That much, I know.
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I know you like Tebow Reb, but there's a clear difference from making a nice vert jump at the Combine, or even running over a defender on the field as opposed to throwing down in a bar. That much, I know.
You are correct. He would not throw down in a bar because he does not bar hop like many of the athletes that you admire.
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Yes, he's so different from all other athletes.
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What does The Bible say about this? Is this not close to prostitution in the eyes of the over-religious? I mean he is being financially compensated to sell a product and we know his PR people are hoping it also makes the ladies cream their jeans for him.
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Yes, he's so different from all other athletes.
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What does The Bible say about this? Is this not close to prostitution in the eyes of the over-religious? I mean he is being financially compensated to sell a product and we know his PR people are hoping it also makes the ladies cream their jeans for him.
The ugly dried up prunes won't. Plus, there are many women that stay home and watch trashy soap operas every day. This picture does not come close to the sluts and hos on these shows.
When he starts posing for jockey shorts with a frontal view, I will agree with you.
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Everything will be OK again after tomorrow morning. Chung, Wilfork, and McCourtney will get it done tomorrow at the expense of #15. I have thge utmost confidence. If they don't, I'll eat my LeRoy Butler jersey...
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I, for one, would love to see Tebow try and "run over" Vince.
I know there's a lot of Tebow hate out there but the drooling Tebow love in the last few posts here was a bit over the top.
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This EVENING, not morning. Sorry 'bout that... :thatsright:
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I don't think we're in College anymore, Tebow...
All joking aside, eventually, more teams are going to catch on like the Pats have in week 15, and tonight. Bank on it. Tebow is history. Maybe even by mid-season next season.
Who remembers last week's game now??? :fuelfire: :tongue:
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Bank on it. Tebow is history. Maybe even by mid-season next season.
Would you like to place a wager on that prediction? What's good about having a 2-time Superbowl winning hall of fame QB as a general manager is that you have a 2-time Superbowl winning hall of fame QB as a general manager.
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BTW Rev, don't fret. My G-Men are gonna handle your Pack today. Just heard from someone close to the G-Men organization, Umenyiora, Pierre-Paul, and Tuck have a fever, and the only prescription is more Rodgers. :cowbell:
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^ Did you hear about Jacobs running his mouth earlier? Something along the lines of "Jennings is pretty good, but he's no Victor Cruz."
That might be the stupidest thing I've heard all week. Cruz was a nobody last season, and it's still up in the air whether he can perform next season like he did this year. Jacobs is just fueling our fire. Driving us to yet another win.
Would you like to place a wager on that prediction?
If you remember, Reb, there were massive whispers among Bronco brass about whether Quinn would be put in to start as opposed to Teblow not that long ago. Not that long ago at all. After yesterday's stinker, you can bet that the whispers will continue, and vary on other topics as well. i.e. Drafting a new QB, or acquiring another one by other means.
So what did you have in mind?
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^ Did you hear about Jacobs running his mouth earlier? Something along the lines of "Jennings is pretty good, but he's no Victor Cruz."
That might be the stupidest thing I've heard all week. Cruz was a nobody last season, and it's still up in the air whether he can perform next season like he did this year. Jacobs is just fueling our fire. Driving us to yet another win.
If you remember, Reb, there were massive whispers among Bronco brass about whether Quinn would be put in to start as opposed to Teblow not that long ago. Not that long ago at all. After yesterday's stinker, you can bet that the whispers will continue, and vary on other topics as well. i.e. Drafting a new QB, or acquiring another one by other means.
So what did you have in mind?
If he's named starter next season, you have to sport the NFL flag of one of the two NFL teams I support for all of regular season, Giants or Saints.
If I lose, I'll sport that green flag or that hideous stank yellow flag. :fuelfire:
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I said "maybe even" by mid-season in '12-'13, so we'll have to revise it.
How 'bout this: I guarentee that by the end of next season, he'll have lost the starting job, and Denver will have a new perspective on things. Can you go from that if you still want to make the wager?
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I said "maybe even" by mid-season in '12-'13, so we'll have to revise it.
How 'bout this: I guarentee that by the end of next season, he'll have lost the starting job, and Denver will have a new perspective on things. Can you go from that if you still want to make the wager?
Yes, name the date of mid-season. After the Giants win tonight, I'm thinking you'll be sporting a Giants flag if you lose. :-)
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^ Did you hear about Jacobs running his mouth earlier? Something along the lines of "Jennings is pretty good, but he's no Victor Cruz."
What was that you were saying? :fuelfire:
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BTW, I am no bandwagon fan. There's a member here by the name of "Manning10". That's me. Giants have been my #2 for years due to how many Ole Miss players they've had on their roster throughout the years.
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As I said in the other thread: Good game, Giants.
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