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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on October 11, 2011, 08:10:53 PM
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-11-11 08:47 PM
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Politicians cannot fix this....they just voted down a jobs bill....Voted Down a ****ing Jobs Bill !
Is OWS is the last hope for the people ?
Who the **** would vote down a jobs bill ? - The bought and paid for, that's who.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2100752
How cute the DUmmy thinks that just because it is called a jobs bill that it will magically create jobs.
Cid_B (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-11-11 08:49 PM
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1. They could also believe that it is just not going to work...
Yep.
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-11-11 08:53 PM
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5. They have no clue how much trouble they're in with the people. n/t
We shall see who is in trouble with the people come election day.
DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-11-11 08:54 PM
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6. They would rather take down the county
Over party politics. People should remember the GOP, despite the pain Americans are going through, would rather sabotage any recovery for power.
Yep that's it, it really has nothing to do with the fact that the jobs bill is the same exact thing that was tried and failed. :mental:
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Can we call it what it really is? it's a "let's give money to the Unions so they'll send money back to my campaign" bill.
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Can we call it what it really is? it's a "let's give money to the Unions so they'll send money back to my campaign" bill.
Much of it will be paid for by raising taxes, that is the ultimate goal of DemonRats. Tax the rich and say it is for jobs, it use to be for the children, but we know how that failed.
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If it was called the "Plant More Flowers to Attract the Skittle Shitting Unicorns Act of 2011" and the bill didn't pass they would really believe the reason there was a lack of Skittle shitting unicorns was because the bill didn't pass and b) without the bill there is no way to plant more flowers.
If their stupidity could be bottled, it could have fueled Solyndra for another year.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-11-11 09:17 PM
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12. We may honestly be moving to the verge of real revolution...
I mean I would think not but all of the pieces seem to be in place in a very weird way and as my wife likes to say - things happen very quickly during periods of instability.
Wow! Yeah we may be seeing important human history unfolding before our eyes. I know which side I'm on - that's for damn sure!
I have two questions for the DUmmies:
First of all, who is "we"?
Secondly, who do you think this revolution will be against?
The vote was made by people in accordance with the wishes of the majority of voters who placed them there. They did exactly what they were voted in to do. In that sense it was "fixed" in line with the desires of people engaging in the constitutional process. The ballot box was fine as long as you were getting what you want. Now you want to cry foul because it's going the other way?
Again, who do you think this revolution will be against? It won't just be against the government, or the rich who by your own estimation comprise only 1% of the population. There's a whole shitload of people out here, millions, who aren't going to take too kindly to having the power of our vote usurped. I'm one of them. Add to that the millions more who may be noncommittal politically but won't appreciate in the least having their lives and livelihoods and ability to feed their families disrupted by your "revolution". You think we're all just going to sit by idly while you tear everything down?
Guess again.
You go down that road, you better take a hard look at what's ahead. You cry now over a shot of pepper spray and someone getting pushed to the ground. You'll be begging for Mace and Tasers when you see whats in store for your "revolution".
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For the Dems November 2012 = Apocolypse Now
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For once a DUmmy gets it right - the politicians can't fix this; they're not supposed to, they're supposed to provide the basic foundations in which people can fix it...somehow I don't think that's what the DUmmy meant, however.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-11-11 09:17 PM
12. We may honestly be moving to the verge of real revolution...
You moonbats better be careful what you wish for.
Wow! Yeah we may be seeing important human history unfolding before our eyes. I know which side I'm on - that's for damn sure!
...and that sucks for you as that places you right in my crosshairs. You idiots better understand you are NOT the majority. You'll be wiped out like the bugs you are. Call me Mr. Orkin.
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12. We may honestly be moving to the verge of real revolution...
I've read this so many times..............I'm still waiting Moonbats.
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Politicians cannot fix this....they just voted down a jobs bill....Voted Down a ****ing Jobs Bill !
You mean the Middle Class Tax Hike Bill? I swear, you could draft a bill outlawing democrat candidates in national elections and if you called it "Free Shit For Liberals Act" they'd vote for it.
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-11-11 09:20 PM
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14. The guillotine worked for France. n/t
Again with the guillotine.
leftstreet (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-11-11 10:20 PM
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18. Put money in our hands, create demand
That's the only way out
Well, thanks for your honesty! Baldfaced greed. Free shit for me. Forget the shit, send cash.
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How the first stimulu...er JOBS BILL worked out for the USA.
1. 11,616,000 unemployed (March 2009).
2. $860 billion dollar stimulus bill.
3. 14,010,000 unemployed (August 2011).
The above come from the BLS and CBO.
Now to me that looks like we spent $860 billion dollars (not including cost of funds) and we now have 2,394,000 more unemployed people.
Another thing:
1. 153,716,000 was the total labor force in March of 2009.
2. 153,600,000 was the total labor force in August of 2011.
Again BLS numbers from their monthly reports.
That appears to be another loss of 116,000.
So a grand total of 2,510,000 jobs lost since the grand plan of borrowing 860 billion dollars to fund public union and green jobs. That works out to $344,000 per lost job. Using linear regression I estimate that the new “Jobs Bill†would have increased unemployment by 1.3 million people.
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You go down that road, you better take a hard look at what's ahead. You cry now over a shot of pepper spray and someone getting pushed to the ground. You'll be begging for Mace and Tasers when you see whats in store for your "revolution".
These children have no idea what they are talking about when they cry for blood, thunder, and "revolution". If they get "revolution", they will be damned sorry they ever called down the thunder and the blood they will taste will most likely be their own.
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How the first stimulu...er JOBS BILL worked out for the USA.
1. 11,616,000 unemployed (March 2009).
2. $860 billion dollar stimulus bill.
3. 14,010,000 unemployed (August 2011).
The above come from the BLS and CBO.
Now to me that looks like we spent $860 billion dollars (not including cost of funds) and we now have 2,394,000 more unemployed people.
Another thing:
1. 153,716,000 was the total labor force in March of 2009.
2. 153,600,000 was the total labor force in August of 2011.
Again BLS numbers from their monthly reports.
That appears to be another loss of 116,000.
So a grand total of 2,510,000 jobs lost since the grand plan of borrowing 860 billion dollars to fund public union and green jobs. That works out to $344,000 per lost job. Using linear regression I estimate that the new “Jobs Bill†would have increased unemployment by 1.3 million people.
Don't forget the first stimulus was supposed to support infrastructure spending. They spent $20 million on road signs with no purpose whatsoever, and they're still complaining about bridges.
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-11-11 08:47 PM
Original message
Politicians cannot fix this....they just voted down a jobs bill....Voted Down a ****ing Jobs Bill !
Is OWS is the last hope for the people ?
Who the **** would vote down a jobs bill ? - The bought and paid for, that's who.
This never was a bill about creating jobs. It was a steaming turd that was gift wrapped in pretty paper that said "jobs bill" on the outside, but inside was just another attempt to increase taxes and give money to zero's union buddies and doners.
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These children have no idea what they are talking about when they cry for blood, thunder, and "revolution". If they get "revolution", they will be damned sorry they ever called down the thunder and the blood they will taste will most likely be their own.
I firmly believe this is where we are headed. They're out of complaints, and have been for some time. This pathetic movement is about selfish greed. There's no moral ground for them to stand on. This cannot be billed as a civil rights movement or anything remotely that noble. It's about a lot of freeloaders who want a lot of something for NOTHING. And it very well has the potential to spark bloodshed, because these are not peaceful or moral people.
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Yep that's it, it really has nothing to do with the fact that the jobs bill is the same exact thing that was tried and failed. :mental:
...Except only half the size of the previous failed attempt to 'Stimulate' the economy. Even if you buy into the idea that such stimulus could work in theory, it's like saying "Our first arrow fell short, let's draw the string back only half as far on the next one and take another shot."
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...Except only half the size of the previous failed attempt to 'Stimulate' the economy. Even if you buy into the idea that such stimulus could work in theory, it's like saying "Our first arrow fell short, let's draw the string back only half as far on the next one and take another shot."
Then next year they can claim it failed again because it was too small.
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Then next year they can claim it failed again because it was too small.
My suspicion is that is exactly where Obama intended to go with this all along.
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Obama wants to say that he had the solution to all of our economic crises, but the Republicans wouldn't vote for jobs. That's what he WILL say and he can rot in hell when he does it.
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Obama wants to say that he had the solution to all of our economic crises, but the Republicans wouldn't vote for jobs. That's what he WILL say and he can rot in hell when he does it.
Funny: I thought the Dhimmi'Rats controlled the Senate??? :confused:
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Don't forget the first stimulus was supposed to support infrastructure spending. They spent $20 million on road signs with no purpose whatsoever, and they're still complaining about bridges.
Or that S0lyndra got more money than 35 states received for infrastructure. Or that 0bama giggled when saying that shovel ready jobs were not so shovel ready as they thought.
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...Except only half the size of the previous failed attempt to 'Stimulate' the economy. Even if you buy into the idea that such stimulus could work in theory, it's like saying "Our first arrow fell short, let's draw the string back only half as far on the next one and take another shot."
Yep, they cut the board twice already and it's still too short, so maybe if we hack off another quarter inch.
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Don't forget the first stimulus was supposed to support infrastructure spending. They spent $20 million on road signs with no purpose whatsoever, and they're still complaining about bridges.
We still have those signs in Las Vegas and Henderson for certain construction projects. It angers me every time I see one.
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We still have those signs in Las Vegas and Henderson for certain construction projects. It angers me every time I see one.
Those signs were the only shovel ready ready projects paid for by the stimulus. They were even put up on construction sites that were already underway before the stimulus passed.
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Yes, but was it a GOOD jobs bill?
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The road signs were literally no more useful or productive than paying someone to dig a hole and then fill it in. This sign had an extra sticker applied, lol:
(http://www.yaf.org/uploadedImages/Blogs/arra_003-new-logo.jpg?n=5297)