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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Rebel on September 13, 2011, 10:10:28 AM
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(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0154323cc949970c-320wi)
Two US citizens sentenced by a Tehran court to eight years in prison for espionage will be freed on bail in two days, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told US television network NBC. The men's lawyer says bail has been set at $500,000 each.
President Mahmud Ahmadinejad said in interviews Tuesday that Iran would release two US hikers jailed for spying in a couple of days on bail which their lawyer said had been set at $500,000 each.
"I am helping to arrange for their release in a couple of days so they will be able to return home. This is of course going to be a unilateral humanitarian gesture," Ahmadinejad told The Washington Post.
"It is a unilateral pardon" of the hikers, he added.
In a separate interview with US network NBC News, Ahmadinejad said Shane Bauer and Josh Fattal would be released "in two days" but their lawyer Masoud Shafii told AFP that they would be freed only when bail had been paid. ---SOURCE--- (http://www.france24.com/en/20110913-iran-ahmadinejad-tells-nbc-usa-hikers-released-two-days-espionage)
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk4n0SvG0-Y[/youtube]
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Why is Iran such a hikers' hot spot?
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Why is Iran such a hikers' hot spot?
We had that conversation in the office. They were supposedly hiking in the Kurdish region of Iraq, but who the hell says, "Hmm, we should take a vacation and go hiking". "Ok, where do you think we should go?". "How about Iraq?" The hell? No Rockies, no Appalachians, no Andes, no European hiking trip, nah, let's go to a f'n war zone. :mental:
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...and then it came to me. No one but a dumbass liberal who doesn't understand evil and thinks the world is a safe place, but America sucks.
I.e.: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/09/13/report-group-of-columbia-university-students-to-dine-with-iranian-president/
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Bail, ransom, bribe. What the hell ever you wanna call it.
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Leave them there a while longer, call it paying their for their stupidity.
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Like Rebel said, if you're really going hiking you hit the trails in a national park. I don't want to give these guys the benefit of the doubt and say yes, they really are that stupid and really were just hikers. These guys are CIA or some other alphabet agency.
Of course there is that chance these really are genuine idiots like what's-her-name bleeding heart princess that threw herself in front of a bulldozer in Gaza, in which case I'm all for Iran keeping them.
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk4n0SvG0-Y[/youtube]
:lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh... Don't be giving them ideas.
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"Millions in tribute, not one dime for defense."....we've come a long way in 200 years.
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They should have stayed home to go hiking.
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I heard a story that they were hiking said border region to find evidence of American preparations to go to war with Iran, and they blundered onto the other side. Not sure just how true it is, but it would explain some things.
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I heard a story that they were hiking said border region to find evidence of American preparations to go to war with Iran, and they blundered onto the other side. Not sure just how true it is, but it would explain some things.
That sounds completely logical for 3 moonbats.
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I heard a story that they were hiking said border region to find evidence of American preparations to go to war with Iran, and they blundered onto the other side. Not sure just how true it is, but it would explain some things.
I heard one of their friends/relatives say the same thing in an interview, but can not find anything online about it. Given their ages, it wouldn't surprise me to find out they were anti-Bush, anti-war zealots.
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I heard one of their friends/relatives say the same thing in an interview, but can not find anything online about it. Given their ages, it wouldn't surprise me to find out they were anti-Bush, anti-war zealots.
...and spoiled brats with rich moonbat parents.
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Leave them there a while longer, call it paying their for their stupidity.
Not one ****ing dime. Let the "hikers" rot in prison, for all I give a ****.
Dumbasses need to get their asses kicked a few times, then they just might wake up and understand just how incredibly ****ing stoooooopid they really are.
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If it is a unilateral pardon, why the need for bail?
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I heard a story that they were hiking said border region to find evidence of American preparations to go to war with Iran, and they blundered onto the other side. Not sure just how true it is, but it would explain some things.
Sounds about right. They will probably come back and tell us how well they were treated and how wrong headed our policy is in that neck of the woods.
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Why is Iran such a hikers' hot spot?
The CIA has been hiking there for decades. :-)
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If it is a unilateral pardon, why the need for bail?
its a processing fee.
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its a processing fee.
I thought it was the bill for their room and board?
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I thought it was the bill for their room and board?
If that's how much they charge for a dank basement room and very little bread and water, what do they charge Sean Penn, Sonny Bono, and Janeane Garafalo when they go stay?
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If that's how much they charge for a dank basement room and very little bread and water, what do they charge Sean Penn, Sonny Bono, and Janeane Garafalo when they go stay?
I hear Sonny Bono is planning a ski trip there this coming Winter.
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My wife said she hear this morning that imadinnerjacket changed his mind.
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...and then it came to me. No one but a dumbass liberal who doesn't understand evil and thinks the world is a safe place, but America sucks.
I.e.: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/09/13/report-group-of-columbia-university-students-to-dine-with-iranian-president/
I agree with you...DU best start up a fund raiser...the American tax payer should not have to pay for these Dummys
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I agree with you...DU best start up a fund raiser...the American tax payer should not have to pay for these Dummys
You have got that right. There are enough liberal freaks that can easily pony up a million. That is pocket change to save these poor misguided souls. Barf.
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Background
The three Americans are anti-war, social justice and Palestine Solidarity Movement activists.[8][9][10][11] [12] They had been living and active in the Middle East, and were on holiday in Iraqi Kurdistan, an autonomous region of Iraq free from the sectarian struggle that dominates much of Iraq.[13][14][15] They had been advised of the suitability of the region for a holiday by friends who had been there and through Internet research; and were recommended the Ahmed Awa waterfall, a popular Kurdish tourist destination, by a number of local people whilst they were in Sulaymaniyah.[15] After visiting the waterfall, they continued walking within what they believed to be Iraqi Kurdistan, up to and including the time they were detained by Iranian border guards.[16]
[edit]Shane Bauer
Shane Bauer, who grew up both in Onamia, Minnesota and San Leandro, California,[17] is a freelance photojournalist and journalist who has worked for Pacifica News Service, Mother Jones, The Nation and other left-leaning media outlets, using his fluency in speaking Arabic.[18]
[edit]Sarah Shourd
Sarah Emily Shourd, who grew up in Los Angeles, California,[17] worked in education and social justice in Damascus, Syria where she provided educational opportunities to refugees from the war in Iraq and taught English. Shourd was released by Iran on September 14, 2010 on $500,000 bail.[3] Shourd's bail does not require that she remain in Iran, and her case will still go to trial along with Bauer and Fattal. Shourd's mother has said she had been denied treatment for serious health problems, including a breast lump and precancerous cervical cells.[19] In May 2011, Shourd announced that she would not return to Iran for trial, citing acute ill-health.[20]
[edit]Joshua Fattal
Joshua "Josh" Fattal, who grew up in Elkins Park, Pennsylvania,[17] an environmentalist and educator, had been from January to May 2009 a teaching fellow for the International Honors Program (IHP)'s "Health and Community" study abroad program. Prior to traveling with the IHP, Fattal lived and worked at Aprovecho in Oregon, USA, exploring and promoting sustainable living practices.
Various media outlets and bloggers have confused Fattal with another Joshua Fattal, a student that has written for the teen supplement of a Jewish paper, the Yeshivah of Flatbush in Brooklyn, New York.[21]
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%932011_detention_of_Americans_by_Iran)
The New York Times has decided that the Iran angle is the most significant element of the latest WikiLeaks package.
Among the elements the newspaper highlights is a report that the US hikers arrested by Iran in July 2009 may have been taken on the Iraq side of the border.
The way I read the relevant document, it seems the report was filed by soldiers who arrived late to the scene and relied on hearsay.
Many will take it as definitive proof of a kidnap; to me, it's impossible to conclude with any real confidence what really happened.
But the really interesting comment comes at the end of the document, under the heading "S2 assessment":
The lack of co-ordination on the part of these hikers, particularly after being forewarned, indicates an intent to agitate and create publicity regarding international policies on Iran.
It would appear that the military not only knew of the hikers' presence in the region, but warned them in advance that they were inviting trouble.
Furthermore, it seems the military themselves concluded the hikers were there with the express purpose of creating publicity ... not rock climbing or hiking.
al Jazeera (http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2010/10/23/wikileaks-us-hikers-iran-were-forewarned)
It looks like they were more than innocent hikers, but were there looking to damage US interests.
Iraq's New Death Squads. (http://www.thenation.com/article/iraqs-new-death-squad) by Shane Bauer.
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Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%932011_detention_of_Americans_by_Iran)
al Jazeera (http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2010/10/23/wikileaks-us-hikers-iran-were-forewarned)
It looks like they were more than innocent hikers, but were there looking to damage US interests.
Iraq's New Death Squads. (http://www.thenation.com/article/iraqs-new-death-squad) by Shane Bauer.
Ah, so devotees of St. Rachael of the Pancakes. If only they'd join her. Stupidity this profound should be terminal.
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...and then it came to me. No one but a dumbass liberal who doesn't understand evil and thinks the world is a safe place, but America sucks.
This would be the exact reason. It's in the libs mindset.
A lib thinks, "It really can't be that bad. After all, they are building nukes for "peaceful purposes"."
OH REALLY?!?! :jerkit:
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Bail, ransom, bribe. What the hell ever you wanna call it.
I say we let the Marine Corps deliver "the goods". IIRC, they have a bit of institutional experience in this arena. (I wonder if there are any descendants of Stephen Decatur kicking around looking for something to do.)