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Title: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Chris_ on April 23, 2008, 06:53:27 AM
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Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist

Sunspot activity has not resumed after hitting an 11-year low in March last year, raising fears that - far from warming - the globe is about to return to an Ice Age.

Astronaut and geophysicist Phil Chapman, the first Australian to become an astronaut with NASA, said pictures from the U.S. Solar and Heliospheric Observatory showed no spots on the sun.

He said the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7C.

"This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930," Dr. Chapman writes in The Australian today.

"If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over."

Oh my.  algore ain't gonna like this "inconvenient" information.   :whatever:

SOURCE (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352241,00.html)
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 23, 2008, 07:03:03 AM
We're all going to have to do our part to fight "Glow-ball Cooling". .....buy an SUV and drive more.......do it for the homeless people under the bridges.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Lord Undies on April 23, 2008, 07:15:23 AM
Womyn, children, and minorities will be hardest hit.  Only white men own coats.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Flame on April 23, 2008, 08:00:59 AM
Global Warming conspirists (ie, ALBORE) are just looking for te new "thing" to make money.  Throw a "catatrophe" out there, be the one who has the "solution" for sale, and voila.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: The Night Owl on April 23, 2008, 08:15:50 AM
No story here. File under Arguments Which Confuse Weather with Climate.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Lord Undies on April 23, 2008, 08:47:11 AM
We have heard from the Mountain!

When it's warming, it's climate.  When it's cooling, it's weather. 

After all, we don't want to expose liberals as being willfilly stupid and political alarmist.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: DixieBelle on April 23, 2008, 10:14:40 AM
No story here. File under Arguments Which Confuse Weather with Climate.
Oh give me a break!!! Stop being a sneering knowitall. People know the difference between the two. People are also perceptive enough to see through this climate change bullshit. Of course the climate is changing! It always has! Sane people recognize that and see the Goronacle movement for what it truly is.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Rebel Yell on April 23, 2008, 10:34:33 AM
No story here. File under Arguments Which Confuse Weather with Climate.
My impression of TNO when confronted with anything other than, We're all gonna die, there is no God, Democrats are right, Worship Al Gore.















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Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: The Night Owl on April 23, 2008, 11:16:01 AM

My impression of TNO when confronted with anything other than, We're all gonna die, there is no God, Democrats are right, Worship Al Gore.

...

Feel free to point out any post in which I've used Al Gore's work as the basis for an argument about global warming or climate change.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: PatriotGame on April 23, 2008, 11:24:24 AM
We have heard from the Mountain!

When it's warming, it's climate.  When it's cooling, it's weather. 

After all, we don't want to expose liberals as being willfilly stupid and political alarmist.
Not to mention being intellectually week with an embarrassing lack of common sense.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: PatriotGame on April 23, 2008, 11:25:25 AM

My impression of TNO when confronted with anything other than, We're all gonna die, there is no God, Democrats are right, Worship Al Gore.

...

Feel free to point out any post in which I've used Al Gore's work as the basis for an argument about global warming or climate change.

Well, your post does support Al Gore's premise.
Hmmm....
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Splashdown on April 23, 2008, 11:28:51 AM
I blame Bush.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Chris_ on April 23, 2008, 11:32:07 AM
I blame Bush.
Don't forget he's responsible for Marblewarming (*nods to Lord Undies for coining the phrase*) and the lack of sun spots as well.
 :uhsure:
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Rebel Yell on April 23, 2008, 11:37:32 AM

My impression of TNO when confronted with anything other than, We're all gonna die, there is no God, Democrats are right, Worship Al Gore.

...

Feel free to point out any post in which I've used Al Gore's work as the basis for an argument about global warming or climate change.

Well, your post does support Al Gore's premise.
Hmmm....
He don't need Al Gore to prove his theories, Al Gore needs TNO to prove his.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Chris_ on April 23, 2008, 11:42:10 AM
No story here. File under Arguments Which Confuse Weather with Climate.

My very, very, very young friend, a new Ice Age will NOT be the result of weather.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Bluesuiter-Retired on April 23, 2008, 11:56:47 AM
I would like to have al-Gore in Montana right about now.

Over the past weekend we wound up with 7 inches of snow with rather cool temps.  The windchill Sat morning was 1 below.  That ain't too bad when one considers that Gt Falls had a low temp of 8 BELOW and had over 10 inches of snow.

As I sit here, it is snowing AGAIN!

Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: The Night Owl on April 23, 2008, 11:59:28 AM
My very, very, very young friend, a new Ice Age will NOT be the result of weather.


My very condescending friend,

Have I argued that any kind of climate change is the result of weather?

No.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Chris_ on April 23, 2008, 12:00:58 PM
My very, very, very young friend, a new Ice Age will NOT be the result of weather.


My very condescending friend,

Have I argued that any kind of climate change is the result of weather?

No.

That's the way I read it.

*pat* *pat* Don't get ruffled, pookie. *pat* *pat*
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: The Night Owl on April 23, 2008, 12:01:09 PM
I would like to have al-Gore in Montana right about now.

Over the past weekend we wound up with 7 inches of snow with rather cool temps.  The windchill Sat morning was 1 below.  That ain't too bad when one considers that Gt Falls had a low temp of 8 BELOW and had over 10 inches of snow.

As I sit here, it is snowing AGAIN!

A few days of weather tell us virtually nothing about the climate.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 23, 2008, 12:05:00 PM
I blame Bush.
Don't forget he's responsible for Marblewarming (*nods to Lord Undies for coining the phrase*) and the lack of sun spots as well.
 :uhsure:

Well, what can he do about age spots?

Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: The Night Owl on April 23, 2008, 12:07:33 PM
That's the way I read it.

*pat* *pat* Don't get ruffled, pookie. *pat* *pat*

No problem. Phil Chapman's article is bound to cause confusion. In fact, it was designed to cause confusion. The title of the article, which was probably conceived with the hope that it would appear on DrudgeReport, makes the stunning declaration that an ice age is coming, but statements within the text of the article are much more cautious...

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It is generally not possible to draw conclusions about climatic trends from events in a single year, so I would normally dismiss this cold snap as transient, pending what happens in the next few years.

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It is time to put aside the global warming dogma, at least to begin contingency planning about what to do if we are moving into another little ice age, similar to the one that lasted from 1100 to 1850.

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If the ice age is coming, there is a small chance that we could prevent or at least delay the transition, if we are prepared to take action soon enough and on a large enough scale.

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We cannot really know, but my guess is that the odds are at least 50-50 that we will see significant cooling rather than warming in coming decades.

The probability that we are witnessing the onset of a real ice age is much less, perhaps one in 500, but not totally negligible.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23583376-5013480,00.html

Bait and switch.







Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: DixieBelle on April 23, 2008, 12:09:05 PM
I would like to have al-Gore in Montana right about now.

Over the past weekend we wound up with 7 inches of snow with rather cool temps.  The windchill Sat morning was 1 below.  That ain't too bad when one considers that Gt Falls had a low temp of 8 BELOW and had over 10 inches of snow.

As I sit here, it is snowing AGAIN!

A few days of weather tell us virtually nothing about the climate.

True. But a former vice president with no formal training isn't going to let a little thing like a lack of credentials stand in his way of preaching to the rest of us about climate.

And before you repeat yourself and say "I'm not using Al Gore's work as a reference", save it.  You may not be openly spouting Goranism, but you certainly belong to the same denomination.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Chris_ on April 23, 2008, 12:13:24 PM
I blame Bush.
Don't forget he's responsible for Marblewarming (*nods to Lord Undies for coining the phrase*) and the lack of sun spots as well.
 :uhsure:

Well, what can he do about age spots?


Apparently a lot.  The sun is quite old I hear.   :-)
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: PatriotGame on April 23, 2008, 12:33:40 PM

My impression of TNO when confronted with anything other than, We're all gonna die, there is no God, Democrats are right, Worship Al Gore.

...

Feel free to point out any post in which I've used Al Gore's work as the basis for an argument about global warming or climate change.

Well, your post does support Al Gore's premise.
Hmmm....
He don't need Al Gore to prove his theories, Al Gore needs TNO to prove his.

Ok, but now I am really confused: Out of the two, which is DUmb and which is DUmber?
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: PatriotGame on April 23, 2008, 12:37:24 PM
I would like to have al-Gore in Montana right about now.

Over the past weekend we wound up with 7 inches of snow with rather cool temps.  The windchill Sat morning was 1 below.  That ain't too bad when one considers that Gt Falls had a low temp of 8 BELOW and had over 10 inches of snow.

As I sit here, it is snowing AGAIN!

A few days of weather tell us virtually nothing about the climate.
Coincidently, a few years of higher than AVERAGE temperatures proves virtually nothing other than global warming is a hoax.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Chris_ on April 23, 2008, 12:37:58 PM

My impression of TNO when confronted with anything other than, We're all gonna die, there is no God, Democrats are right, Worship Al Gore.

...

Feel free to point out any post in which I've used Al Gore's work as the basis for an argument about global warming or climate change.

Well, your post does support Al Gore's premise.
Hmmm....
He don't need Al Gore to prove his theories, Al Gore needs TNO to prove his.

Ok, but now I am really confused: Out of the two, which is DUmb and which is DUmber?
algore is making millions off globalwarming.  TNO...probably not.   :-)
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: PatriotGame on April 23, 2008, 12:42:03 PM

My impression of TNO when confronted with anything other than, We're all gonna die, there is no God, Democrats are right, Worship Al Gore.

...

Feel free to point out any post in which I've used Al Gore's work as the basis for an argument about global warming or climate change.

Well, your post does support Al Gore's premise.
Hmmm....
He don't need Al Gore to prove his theories, Al Gore needs TNO to prove his.

Ok, but now I am really confused: Out of the two, which is DUmb and which is DUmber?
algore is making millions off globalwarming.  TNO...probably not.   :-)

Funny how that happens to Al Gore boot lickers.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Lord Undies on April 23, 2008, 12:45:05 PM

My impression of TNO when confronted with anything other than, We're all gonna die, there is no God, Democrats are right, Worship Al Gore.

...

Feel free to point out any post in which I've used Al Gore's work as the basis for an argument about global warming or climate change.

Well, your post does support Al Gore's premise.
Hmmm....
He don't need Al Gore to prove his theories, Al Gore needs TNO to prove his.

Ok, but now I am really confused: Out of the two, which is DUmb and which is DUmber?
algore is making millions off globalwarming.  TNO...probably not.   :-)

To the globalwarming pilot fish like TNO, making a profit off the lie is not important.  His type will get their "reward" when the western economies collapse from regulations and liberal bullying.  

I don't know why those types are so eager to sacrifice their own lifestyles just to find joy in the misery of others, but they apparently have it all rationalized in their muted brains.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: Chris_ on April 23, 2008, 12:57:02 PM
To the globalwarming pilot fish like TNO, making a profit off the lie is not important.  His type will get their "reward" when the western economies collapse from regulations and liberal bullying.  

I don't know why those types are so eager to sacrifice their own lifestyles just to find joy in the misery of others, but they apparently have it all rationalized in their muted brains.

At this point in the discussion I would be remiss if I didn't remind readers that the quickest way to get TNO off of an AGW thread is to ask him ......"assuming AGW to be true, what, precisely, and in specific detail, do you propose we do about it?".....
doc
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: PatriotGame on April 23, 2008, 02:36:27 PM
To the globalwarming pilot fish like TNO, making a profit off the lie is not important.  His type will get their "reward" when the western economies collapse from regulations and liberal bullying.  

I don't know why those types are so eager to sacrifice their own lifestyles just to find joy in the misery of others, but they apparently have it all rationalized in their muted brains.

At this point in the discussion I would be remiss if I didn't remind readers that the quickest way to get TNO off of an AGW thread is to ask him ......"assuming AGW to be true, what, precisely, and in specific detail, do you propose we do about it?".....
doc

Do what he always does when his liberal self-inflicted angst gets the better of him:
Beat-off.
Title: Re: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist
Post by: RightCoast on April 23, 2008, 03:08:50 PM
Let us not forget that Global Warming is causing the ice caps to melt away this melting of the ice caps floods the North Atlantic Current with cold water thus cooling the northern regions and subsequently affecting the Jet stream further cooling the earth creating a "mini ice age" [/globalwarming=globalcooling idiot]