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Title: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 02:44:30 PM
I don't see any exit polls being leaked yet, but I will go ahead an predict that hillary
wins 55%-45%*, thereby preserving her candidacy to pump torpedoes into The
BarackStar! until at least the indiana primary.


*unless philadelphia mysteriously waits until the entire rest of the state has been counted,
and suddenly shows up with just enough votes to put The BarackStar! ahead.
:-)

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 02:46:16 PM
Messalina Agrippina, in a walk.

It'll be at least a 10-point margin, but maybe even more.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 02:46:40 PM
I have to agree.  It will be interesting if mrs. clinton gets less than 10% (maybe 8?).

I will be disappointed in Operation Chaos if her margin is less than 10, though.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 02:49:08 PM
By the way, Wretched Excess, sir, if I'm right, and Messalina Agrippina wins by 10+%, can I have a new color of stars?

Either Nebraska red or royal purple would be fine, if they aren't already taken.

If it's no problem.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Lord Undies on April 22, 2008, 02:54:19 PM
63% for that Clinton woman.
37% for that Magic Negro guy.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 03:02:24 PM
63% for that Clinton woman.
37% for that Magic Negro guy.
No way will the spread be that wide.  I go with the 55-45.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 03:05:30 PM
The best bets are the ones where you have to put up a sig or an avatar or something like that for a specified period.

That has some currency in the boards, IMHO.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 03:15:15 PM
By the way, Wretched Excess, sir, if I'm right, and Messalina Agrippina wins by 10+%, can I have a new color of stars?

Either Nebraska red or royal purple would be fine, if they aren't already taken.

If it's no problem.

I'm not sure that stars is practical, but how about 50 (or so) High5s to the one that is the closest?

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 03:18:04 PM
By the way, Wretched Excess, sir, if I'm right, and Messalina Agrippina wins by 10+%, can I have a new color of stars?

Either Nebraska red or royal purple would be fine, if they aren't already taken.

If it's no problem.

I'm not sure that stars is practical, but how about 50 (or so) High5s to the one that is the closest?



Yeah, I was kidding about the stars, though.

I'm no interior decorator, and green is fine.

Some sort of prize along the lines of 50 high-5s would be appropriate as a prize, though, to whoever gets the closest.  I'm still sticking with Messalina Agrippina 55%, Barry "Goldwater" Obama 45%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 03:19:56 PM

extremely heavy turnout reported in PA, especially philly.  conventional wisdom says that heavy turnout only works in favor of The BarackStar!, but I'm not so sure about that.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 03:46:08 PM
OK, we need a pool grid of some kind.  And rules -- if people are equidistant does the lower or higher win?
Since this started with 55/45 in favor of mrs. cinton, I hereby predict 55.5/44.5 also in favor of the communistic bitch.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Odin's Hand on April 22, 2008, 03:47:44 PM
What time do the polls close?
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 03:50:37 PM
What time do the polls close?

8:00 PM EDT.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Splashdown on April 22, 2008, 03:58:33 PM
Voted in the republican primary today.  :whatever: Huck was still on the ticket, along with some fellow with two first names....JohnPeter? BarryJim? RonPaul? I forget.

I'm feeling a 9 percent win for Hillary on the D side, and a significant margin of victory for McCain.  :-)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 04:03:20 PM
Voted in the republican primary today.  :whatever: Huck was still on the ticket, along with some fellow with two first names....JohnPeter? BarryJim? RonPaul? I forget.

I'm feeling a 9 percent win for Hillary on the D side, and a significant margin of victory for McCain.  :-)

Dude!  Aren't you on board with Operation Chaos?
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Mr Mannn on April 22, 2008, 06:01:01 PM
Hillary is out of money. So I'm hoping for a BIG win. Forcing her to raise and waste more money. Obama spent 3 times as much molaah, and its not done a thing for him.

I will settle for even a close win for the witch, as it will only whet her ambitions and feed Operation Chaos.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:16:43 PM
Drudge Report as of 8:15 p.m. central time, 7:15 p.m. mountain time, now reports Messalina Agrippina up 1, Barry "Goldwater" Obama down 1.

It's now 54%-46%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:18:44 PM
Damn.

Forty seconds later, and Messalina up another one, Barry down another one.

It's now 55%-45%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:19:58 PM
With 11% of returns reported, Messalina now down one, and Barry up one.

54%-46%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:21:06 PM
Uh-oh.

With still 11% counted, Messalina down another one, Barry up one.

53%-47%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 08:21:11 PM

ABC and CNN are calling it for hillary.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 08:23:02 PM

CNN calls it for hillary (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/22/pa.primary/index.html)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:23:22 PM
With 12% in, Messalina recovers 1, and Barry loses 1.

54%-46%.

Messalina allegedly the winner according to news media counts.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: djones520 on April 22, 2008, 08:24:45 PM
How does one just give it to her when only 12% has reported in and she only holds a small lead?
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: DixieBelle on April 22, 2008, 08:26:03 PM
So will Barackstar! start screaming that he's the candiate anyway? He pretty much said so on CNN earlier. He arrogantly told a group of reporters...."WHEN I'm the nominee....." Mathmatically, he's ahead in delegates and overall contests. I really haven't taken the time to study the inner workings of the Democratic system. Are they gonna go on Pay Per View and duke it out? :-) Cuz, I'd probably buy it.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 08:27:39 PM
How does one just give it to her when only 12% has reported in and she only holds a small lead?

ditto... :confused:
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:28:01 PM
With 15% in, Messalina 53%, Barry 47%.

It looks tighter than I thought it would be.

I'll bet the primitives right now are discombobulating.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Lauri on April 22, 2008, 08:28:17 PM

extremely heavy turnout reported in PA, especially philly



operation chaos...
   :lmao:
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:29:06 PM
Well, 16% in now.

Messalina still holding onto 53%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Lauri on April 22, 2008, 08:30:13 PM
FOX called it for Hillary a while back... probably all around the same time.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:36:15 PM
With 18%, Messalina up 1 and Barry down one.

54%-46%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:37:34 PM
How does one just give it to her when only 12% has reported in and she only holds a small lead?

The infamous exit polls, djones.

The media has people polling voters exiting polling places.

The media selects several small places "representative" of the area as a whole, and exit-polls there.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 08:38:13 PM
FOX called it for Hillary a while back... probably all around the same time.

Yes, but some of us are invested in the over/under.

Besides which anything less than +10 for mrs. clinton has great significance.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:38:53 PM
Now with 20% reporting, Messalina down 1 and Barry up 1.

53%-47%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:41:00 PM
Now with 22% reporting, percentages still the same.

Messalina 53%, Barry 47%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:43:34 PM
Twenty-four percent now in.

Messalina up 1, Barry down 1.

54%-46%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:45:37 PM
Thirty-one percent reporting now, Messalina up 1, Barry down 1.

55%-45%.

I'll bet the nocturnally foul one is owly-eyed crying.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 08:47:04 PM
FOX called it for Hillary a while back... probably all around the same time.

Yes, but some of us are invested in the over/under.

Besides which anything less than +10 for mrs. clinton has great significance.


heh.  she's going to NC and Indiana if she wins by three votes.  the blood letting will continue. :-)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:48:33 PM
One third all counted now.

Messalina down 1, Barry up 1.

54%-46%.

Does anyone know if western Pennsylvania reports after eastern Pennsylvania?
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: asdf2231 on April 22, 2008, 08:49:15 PM
Thirty-one percent reporting now, Messalina up 1, Barry down 1.

55%-45%.

I'll bet the nocturnally foul one is owly-eyed crying.

Au Contraire!

he's been doing Her Ladyship's work on The Island last I recall.

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 08:49:58 PM
Here is the link to the PA secretary of state elections returns page:

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ (http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/)

it updates automatically.


on edit : that link has problems, but will give you intelligible results if you reload a couple of times.  you must not
be able to get decent web developers for what the state is willing to pay in PA. :-)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 08:51:29 PM
Here is the link to the PA secretary of state elections returns page:

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ (http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/)

it updates automatically.
Oh, shit -- the Ronbots are going to go ape.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:52:04 PM
Now 35% of votes in.

Still 54%-46%, Messalina over Barry.

I thought the nocturnally foul one was an Obamaite.

I must've have misread something the nocturnally foul one hooted.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 08:52:44 PM
Here is the link to the PA secretary of state elections returns page:

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ (http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/)

it updates automatically.
Oh, shit -- the Ronbots are going to go ape.

yikes.  I didn't notice how dr. nutz was doing until you mentioned it.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:53:38 PM
Thirty-eight percent now in.

It's still Messalina, still the same percentage.

By the way, who's expected to win the Republican primary tonight?

Ron Paul, isn't it?
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:55:05 PM
Forty-two percent in now.

Messalina increases her lead.

Now 55%-45%.

I'll bet the primitives are going primitive-shit, but I'm watching Drudge, not Skins's island.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Airwolf on April 22, 2008, 08:55:31 PM
After watching the news and the promos both of them did for the start of the WWE it's a wonder either of then are getting votes. Barack delivered his lines like he was in a coma. At least we know Hillzilla was cold blooded and didn't expect much from anyway.

I mean really if Barry is going to use a qoute from The Rock I would at least thing he should deliver The Rocks famous line just like he does.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSaiOC6vIz0[/youtube]

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Lord Undies on April 22, 2008, 08:58:31 PM
For the record, when I made my prediction, it was about Bucks County only.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:00:01 PM
philadelphia county in 80% in, by the way.

Quote
Philadelphia County
Link to County web site for Election Results
*** 1,344 out of 1,681 Districts (79.95%) Reporting Countywide ***


on edit : I had to google it, but philadelphia county is the same ("coterminous with") as philadelphia.  so, I don't think there will be a very late ObamaTsunami that saves him tonight.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Lauri on April 22, 2008, 09:00:17 PM
FOX called it for Hillary a while back... probably all around the same time.

Yes, but some of us are invested in the over/under.

Besides which anything less than +10 for mrs. clinton has great significance.


heh.  she's going to NC and Indiana if she wins by three votes.  the blood letting will continue. :-)


three??? you waaaay over estimate this woman... i figure if the percentages backslide and Obama comes out the winner, she still aint bowing out.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:00:24 PM
Forty-six percent in now.

Messalina down 1, Barry up 1.

54%-46%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Lauri on April 22, 2008, 09:01:23 PM
Here is the link to the PA secretary of state elections returns page:

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ (http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/)

it updates automatically.
Oh, shit -- the Ronbots are going to go ape.


this is where i usually ask... "Ron Paul is STILL going?"  :popcorn:
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:02:50 PM
Here is the link to the PA secretary of state elections returns page:

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ (http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/)

it updates automatically.
Oh, shit -- the Ronbots are going to go ape.


this is where i usually ask... "Ron Paul is STILL going?"  :popcorn:

he was at nearly 20% of the vote a little while ago . . . down to under 15% now. 
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:04:36 PM
Forty-seven percent in now.

Messalina still 54%, Barry still 46%.

I'll bet the cali primitive's really unhappy.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:07:09 PM
Now we're halfway, 50% in.

Percentages the same.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:08:55 PM

I read someplace that PA allocates part of the delegates according to statewide results, but then another large part of their delegates are allocated in a weighted fashion according to congressional district.  that means that when The BarackStar! wins philly big, the delegates he wins there will offset hillary's gain for winning the state by a likely large margin.

poor hillary.  she just can't catch a break.  :-)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:13:03 PM
Okay, 52% in.

Messalina up 1, Barry down 1.

55%-45%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:14:11 PM
Now 56% in.

Messalina down 1, Barry up 1.

54%-46%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:15:33 PM
Okay, 52% in.

Messalina up 1, Barry down 1.

55%-45%.

I am playing with the county results using the county-by-county map on the PA sec'y state state page, it looks like perhaps the outlying rural areas will be the last to come in.  if that is so, and the demographics hold, she could be headed to 12% or better.

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:16:57 PM
With 58% now in, Messalina up 1 and Barry down 1.

55%-45%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:18:07 PM


I am playing with the county results using the county-by-county map on the PA sec'y state state page, it looks like perhaps the outlying rural areas will be the last to come in.  if that is so, and the demographics hold, she could be headed to 12% or better.



I was wondering; that's why my question about western Pennsylvania.

If western Pennsylvania isn't in yet, Barry's toast.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:19:57 PM
Now 61% in.

Messalina down 1, Barry up 1.

54%-46%.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:25:57 PM

philly is 95% in.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:28:23 PM


I am playing with the county results using the county-by-county map on the PA sec'y state state page, it looks like perhaps the outlying rural areas will be the last to come in.  if that is so, and the demographics hold, she could be headed to 12% or better.



I was wondering; that's why my question about western Pennsylvania.

If western Pennsylvania isn't in yet, Barry's toast.

a LOT of central PA is very slow coming in;  that is equally bad for The BarackStar!
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:29:50 PM
Sixty-seven percent in; two-thirds of the way there.

Messalina inevitably in a rout over Barry, still 54%-46%.

However, I do suspect that margin will widen.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:31:47 PM

hillary just had a good applause line in her victory speech about how she may get knocked down, but will "always get back up".

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:34:13 PM
Seventy percent now.

Messalina still at 54%, Barry 46%.

Does anybody know if any of the Obamaite primitives are screaming "vote fraud!" yet?
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 09:34:57 PM
Sixty-seven percent in; two-thirds of the way there.

Messalina inevitably in a rout over Barry, still 54%-46%.

However, I do suspect that margin will widen.

I hope not.  I have a bunch of H5s on the line (since I was one of the few who made a specific prediction)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:35:20 PM
Seventy percent now.

Messalina still at 54%, Barry 46%.

Does anybody know if any of the Obamaite primitives are screaming "vote fraud!" yet?

 :rotf: I haven't checked yet, but I am sure they are.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:36:48 PM
Seventy-three percent reporting now.

Still Messalina 54%, Barry 46%, and it looks as if her lead's not going to go down.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:37:55 PM
Sixty-seven percent in; two-thirds of the way there.

Messalina inevitably in a rout over Barry, still 54%-46%.

However, I do suspect that margin will widen.

I hope not.  I have a bunch of H5s on the line (since I was one of the few who made a specific prediction)


I think she will be over 10.  but it's hard to tell how many votes are in the 25% of the precincts that remain outstanding.    they DO seem to be in central PA, but will it be enough to move the numbers a couple of percent?

the exit polls are very wrong again.  "the wilder effect", I suspect.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 09:40:09 PM
yep...

Why I Distrust PA Election Results… (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5626008)

Same old whining about the electronic voting machines the Democratic Party demanded after the mess they caused in 2000.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 09:42:49 PM
Here ya go: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3278852#3278900

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BradBlog  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Journal   08:06 PM
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1. OP Updated with much more...   Updated at 7:41 PM
   

Kicking to point that out...Will likely be rolling updates all day. Please keep this kicked if you can!

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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 08:14 PM
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2. kick
   
Nobody could possibly have foreseen....... I'm gettin' tired of saying it.

I predicted last night that Hillary would win, 100% to Obama's 55%. That's with a 156% margin of error. With these machines, anything is possible.
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electropop (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 08:17 PM
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3. I can't stand this.
   
How much longer will we use these damned machines? How much longer before we pull the partisans out of running elections? It's disgraceful!
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discerning christian Donating Member (1000+ posts)        Wed Apr-23-08 12:42 AM
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39. PULLEEEEEEZE,
   
someone forward this post to K. Olberman at MSNBC right NOW!! I'm sitting here listening to them making excuses as to why the results are so slow in coming in. Even they are being BULLSHITTED. Some one there must "have a clue" yet are keeping America hanging out here to dry!! Also get the information to them about the DOJ monitoring this election. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE !! Maybe now the powers that be will get rid of those DAMNABLE MACHINES !!! Gov. Rendell needs to have a long talk with the Sec. of State. Can they afford a do-over????????????? Bastards. :nuke:
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 08:25 PM
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4. I thought that the state primaries were on paper ballots!?!
   
between the electronic machinery and Ed Weasel Rendell forcing the delegates to go his way or no funding for districts, maybe Hillary will get her 28% above Obama.

<sigh>
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 08:55 PM
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8. Yes, it's all true. And there's nothing you can do to stop us!!!!
   
;)
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natrat (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 08:39 PM
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5. let me guess shillary by 30
   
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts)       Tue Apr-22-08 08:40 PM
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6. Let me guess. Broken machines in Obama strongholds, Obama missing from ballots. So surprising.
   
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 08:53 PM
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7. Yup it's Hilary's fault...the seriousness of these problems denigrated
   
by the Bots trying to make it into another conspiracy theory. Pathetic.
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darue (178 posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 09:56 PM
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21. oh for ****s sake... you're so right...
   
why would powerful rich people ever secretly agree to act in concert to accomplish their goals? What lunacy to suggest that they might or EVER HAVE. of course we know our betters would never do such things. republican state election officials have no reason whatsoever to do something that we KNOW they think will help them win the presidency of the most powerful nation on earth. What would even motivate them to try? conspiracy? please, what a joke. there's NEVER been a conspiracy in history has there? Certainly no conspiracy has ever occurred in our perfect and great nation.
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 10:06 PM
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23. Coming in swinging...sarcasm...on point...
   
Welcome to DU.

:party:
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darue (178 posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 10:10 PM
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25. yes
   
a little of the old sarky indeed. thnx 4 the welcome :beer:
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Winebrat Donating Member (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 08:56 PM
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9. The Dysfunctional States of America
   
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Faye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 08:58 PM
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10. .
   
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Obama_for_our_future Donating Member (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 09:01 PM
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11. Kick, those who don't believe these things happen are naive
   
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts)        Wed Apr-23-08 12:51 AM
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41. ...but, but, but .... that would be a conspiracy . . .. !!!
   
and we would all be wearing "tin foil hats" ---

Oh . . . it would be so frightening ---

Let's pretend this isn't happening --- it's easier that way!!


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jennied (7 posts)       Tue Apr-22-08 09:17 PM
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12. Sigh...
   
This makes me mad. I just might close my eyes for a few months, then open them and see who is gonna be our nominee. I can't stand all this crap...
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blackops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 10:29 PM
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28. You need Wait Mateâ„¢!
   
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 10:30 PM by blackops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJVeHm0QT04&feature=rela...

Welcome to DU! :hi:
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal       Tue Apr-22-08 11:41 PM
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34. Gimme a couple. I can't stand it.
   
:banghead:
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Progs Rock (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 09:22 PM
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13. kr
   
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 09:23 PM
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14. I voted on one of those damned machines this morning.
   
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 09:24 PM by drm604
This was in Norristown, which should go heavily for Obama. There were no obvious problems, but of course I have no way of knowing whether or not my votes were accurately recorded when I pushed the vote button.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 09:33 PM
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15. Can anyone help?
   
Did Pennsylvania make a verified paper trail illegal for the primary?
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 09:33 PM
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16. Here's the machine I voted on.
   
I voted on a "Sequoia Advantage" machine.

Here's an instructional video put out by the state of Pennsylvania for that machine (if you can stomach the silly cartoon).

http://www.votingbooth.state.pa.us/media/instructional_...
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bushmeister0 (495 posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 09:52 PM
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19. I think I used a somwhat older version of that one. I was a little more rickety.
   
Damn, I wish I'd thought to write in "John Doe." The bass player of the band "X" is so much cooler than anyone running in this primary.
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AllyCat (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 09:42 PM
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17. Is anyone surprised? Anyone? n/t
   
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 09:46 PM
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18. error message -- You have already recommended that discussion
   
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 09:56 PM
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20. ...
   
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demo dutch (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 10:02 PM
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22. Just the normal crap, it happens in every state of the union!
   
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 11:28 PM
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33. No in other states of the Union there were primaries held where
   
The votes were counted on paper ballots.

And some states are now going with paper. For even the General Eections.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 10:07 PM
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24. Thanks Brad.
   
:kick:
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 10:11 PM
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26. (problems) particularly in and around Philly
   
Philly always had problems going back more then a couple of years now
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 10:22 PM
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27. As reported elsewhere, PA is 85% touchscreen (no paper at all).
   
In other words, almost total faith-based voting, even tho PA state law requires the verification of the vote.
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WIllo Donating Member (421 posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 10:38 PM
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29. K&R
   
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vickiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 10:39 PM
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30. Columbus, PA pop. 1700, 2 machines, both down first thing. Paper ballots
   
used for 33 people before 'fixed'. First person could not 'fix' machines, tech person called in. Finally 'fixed' about 8:45am.

Not my district, but was until 2003.

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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 11:06 PM
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31. Figures...
   
You'd think people would have figured this stuff out by now...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-22-08 11:13 PM
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32. Well oh my ****ing dee dee ****ing dee!
   
:eyes:
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 11:52 PM
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35. "Machines break down, 100's leave without voting, Obama's name not on provisional ballot!"
   
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 11:54 PM by chill_wind


"I just came from voting. Finally got my vote in at 49 ward, 07 division....after waiting for (the only) 2 voting machines to be repaired.

"I was able to cast my vote for Obama after waiting 1 and 1/2 hours. During that time at least 100 voters left without voting.....possibly not to return.


"I immediately called every News channel I could get through to. Persons who answered at the stations informed me that my ward was not the only one with broken machines and 'Paper ballots (as an alternative) without Obama's name on it. These provisional ballots did have Hiliary's name on them."


http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/More_voting...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5918

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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 11:55 PM
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36. Well, that was predictable   Updated at 5:49 PM
   
Haven't we learned by now that those things are a f'ing nightmare?
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 11:55 PM
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37. Well, that was predictable   Updated at 5:49 PM
   
Haven't we learned by now that those things are a f'ing nightmare?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal        Tue Apr-22-08 11:59 PM
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38. The "problem" with e-voting...
   
is that the dipshits forgot to make the shortcomings invisible to us, their rubes. When voters know their votes are being switched, not counted or lost, they tend to get a little irate.

Personally, I hope PA is such a debacle that every vote in the GE will be done on a paper ballot, from coast to coast.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts)        Wed Apr-23-08 12:48 AM
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40. Looks like they are now engineering the win for HRC . . . 8:47 pm Central NJ . . . ????
   
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happygoluckytoyou (837 posts)        Wed Apr-23-08 01:04 AM
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42. WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE.... HOW JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" WILL WIN IN 2008
   
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trickyguy (43 posts)        Wed Apr-23-08 01:43 AM
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43. How could I be so naive as to think there wouldn't be any problems.
   
I was so caught up in Obama fever that I forgot about the scumbags out there

who like to ruin things for a lot of honest Americans. Like mess with their votes.

And now I'm nervous as hell about the whole primary process.

Gotta think positive now. Maybe if I go and do some yoga that would help. :evilfrown:

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: djones520 on April 22, 2008, 09:47:54 PM
I was standing in line in a crowded cafe a few minutes ago.  Saw Hillary on t.v. giving her victory speech.  I giggled.   :fuelfire:  Let the fight go on!!!!  :-)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 09:48:49 PM
Quote
Something is ****ING WRONG .. CNN VS. STATE Reporting .. One has it wrong (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5631655)

At 54% CNN was reporting H: 54 O: 46

But the state website at: http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us / is reporting it at: 52.7 (53) H 47.3 (47%) Obama

Which ****ing site should I believe now?!!

NOOO!  PANIC!!!  RUN AWAY!!!  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 09:50:47 PM
... and this (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5630319) lovely gem from our loser friend JimmyJim...

Quote
Bornaginhooligan  (1000+ posts)      Tue Apr-22-08 09:51 PM
Original message
If Obama voters were only 3/5 people, Clinton would be winning.

It's so unfair.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:51:15 PM
I was standing in line in a crowded cafe a few minutes ago.  Saw Hillary on t.v. giving her victory speech.  I giggled.   :fuelfire:  Let the fight go on!!!!  :-)

Bingo, sir.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:52:06 PM

The BarackStar!'s concession speech/mellencamp concert is on now . . .
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:53:00 PM

55-45 with 79% in, according to CNN
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 09:53:21 PM
I was standing in line in a crowded cafe a few minutes ago.  Saw Hillary on t.v. giving her victory speech.  I giggled.   :fuelfire:  Let the fight go on!!!!  :-)
Operation Chaos proceeds apace!

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/07/30/PH2007073001594.jpg)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: asdf2231 on April 22, 2008, 09:54:02 PM
Nopers... McCain is pulling 72.3 to Paul's 15%

But it encourages the short bus conservatives when he does anything better than the normal retard 5%
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:54:10 PM
Now 78% in.

Still Messalina 54%, Barry 46%.

The chariot's rolling.

By the way, Wretched Excess, I'm going from Drudge.

But I guess all sources are okay.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:55:02 PM

dr. nutz is hanging tough at 16% with 79% in . . . is that kind of turnout after the nomination is decided being motivated, or is it merely delusional?
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 09:55:52 PM
Now 79% in.

Messalina up 1, Barry down 1.

One supposes Messalinaites can start breathing a little easier now.

But it's not over until it's over.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:56:13 PM
Now 78% in.

Still Messalina 54%, Barry 46%.

The chariot's rolling.

By the way, Wretched Excess, I'm going from Drudge.

But I guess all sources are okay.

I am sure it is;  they will all get to the same final number.  hillary is up 10 with 80% in, according to CNN.

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 09:56:28 PM

dr. nutz is hanging tough at 16% with 79% in . . . is that kind of turnout after the nomination is decided being motivated, or is it merely delusional?

I think it is a joke vote. If I was unable to stomach Operation Chaos I would probably vote Paul just to get a rise out of the Paulistinians.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 09:57:55 PM
I was standing in line in a crowded cafe a few minutes ago.  Saw Hillary on t.v. giving her victory speech.  I giggled.   :fuelfire:  Let the fight go on!!!!  :-)
Operation Chaos proceeds apace!

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/07/30/PH2007073001594.jpg)

Those chairs don't look very comfortable.   :-)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:57:57 PM

The BarackStar! is back to running against everything that has ever happened in washington DC;  thus, his brand of undefined "change" is absolutely required.

the ObamaZombies are eating it up.

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 09:58:36 PM
I was standing in line in a crowded cafe a few minutes ago.  Saw Hillary on t.v. giving her victory speech.  I giggled.   :fuelfire:  Let the fight go on!!!!  :-)
Operation Chaos proceeds apace!

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/07/30/PH2007073001594.jpg)

Those chairs don't look very comfortable.   :-)

their lunch doesn't seem to be sitting very well, either, :-)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on April 22, 2008, 09:59:56 PM
Damn, that is one of the longest, emptiest concession speeches I've ever heard, and it seems to have no end!  Hey dipshit, you LOST, now STFU!

 :tongue:
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 10:00:10 PM
"It smells like Lysol and shit in here." :rofl:
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 10:01:34 PM
Eighty-two percent now.

Messalina 55%, Barry 45%.

Looks like Ben-Hur beat the other guy in the race around the Coluseum.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Lord Undies on April 22, 2008, 10:01:47 PM
I was standing in line in a crowded cafe a few minutes ago.  Saw Hillary on t.v. giving her victory speech.  I giggled.   :fuelfire:  Let the fight go on!!!!  :-)
Operation Chaos proceeds apace!

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/07/30/PH2007073001594.jpg)

Those chairs don't look very comfortable.   :-)

You can pick your friends and you can pick your butt, but you can't pick your friend's butt without permission.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Lauri on April 22, 2008, 10:02:11 PM

The BarackStar!'s concession speech/mellencamp concert is on now . . .


do you notice the three Abercrombie & Fitch kids behind him?
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 10:05:00 PM
Eighty-four percent in.

Messalina still ten laps ahead of Barry, 55%-45%.

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 10:23:25 PM
Now it's 88% in.

Messalina 55%, Barry 45%.

Almost too late to hope Messalina gains one more lap in the chariot race.

But hey, winning by ten laps ain't bad.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 10:25:23 PM

The BarackStar!'s concession speech/mellencamp concert is on now . . .


do you notice the three Abercrombie & Fitch kids behind him?

yep.  it's hilarious what the handlers put behind the candidates so they are part of the TV shot;  sometimes I pay more attention to that than what the candidate is saying.

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 10:26:15 PM
Now it's 88% in.

Messalina 55%, Barry 45%.

Almost too late to hope Messalina gains one more lap in the chariot race.

But hey, winning by ten laps ain't bad.

10% was the threshold for an "ObamaSlap", and we got that :-).  I thought she had a shot to get to 11 or 12 . . .

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 10:27:59 PM
Now it's 88% in.

Messalina 55%, Barry 45%.

Almost too late to hope Messalina gains one more lap in the chariot race.

But hey, winning by ten laps ain't bad.

same margin at 90% in . . . and hillary's delegate lead is only 40-37;  it's that delegate distribution by congressional district at work.

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: asdf2231 on April 22, 2008, 10:28:48 PM
Yeah but he managed to mention every special interest group but left handed green haired albino lesbian pipe welder assistants though so from a Lib standpoint it was a magnum opus.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 10:28:58 PM

yep.  it's hilarious what the handlers put behind the candidates so they are part of the TV shot;  sometimes I pay more attention to that than what the candidate is saying.



When I was over on Skins's island, I noticed a primitive had lit a bonfire about those three guys, but I didn't pay attention; perhaps I should have.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Lord Undies on April 22, 2008, 10:31:26 PM

yep.  it's hilarious what the handlers put behind the candidates so they are part of the TV shot;  sometimes I pay more attention to that than what the candidate is saying.



When I was over on Skins's island, I noticed a primitive had lit a bonfire about those three guys, but I didn't pay attention; perhaps I should have.

They are always upset by something they think is a conspiracy.  Too bad the three weren't wear Coppertone t-shirts.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 10:31:42 PM

I just did the actual calculation, and she is at a LOW 55% with 90% in;  55.1%.

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 10:34:06 PM
Okay, with 90% in, it's obvious who won.

I'm calling it a night.

If you want, Wretched Excess, I'll do a similar play-by-play the next primary (Indiana? North Carolina?).

Right now, inside the head, while thinking of the primitives being so sad, what's going on is Beethoven's Ode to Joy as I imagine it sounds.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 10:34:15 PM

55*-45 with 93% in.  I don't think she is getting past 10 points.

*54.75%, actually.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 10:35:27 PM
Okay, with 90% in, it's obvious who won.

I'm calling it a night.

If you want, Wretched Excess, I'll do a similar play-by-play the next primary (Indiana? North Carolina?).

Right now, inside the head, while thinking of the primitives being so sad, what's going on is Beethoven's Ode to Joy as I imagine it sounds.

absolutely, please give us a play-by-play for NC and Indiana, too.  it makes the night. :-)

and I am hearing nothing but laughter. :rotf:
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Lauri on April 22, 2008, 10:37:05 PM

The BarackStar!'s concession speech/mellencamp concert is on now . . .


do you notice the three Abercrombie & Fitch kids behind him?

yep.  it's hilarious what the handlers put behind the candidates so they are part of the TV shot;  sometimes I pay more attention to that than what the candidate is saying.




I was wondering if A&F was a corporate sponsor of Obama... and found its already hitting the blogs tonight :-)

http://www.truthcaucus.com/2008/04/22/barack-obama-and-abercrombie-fitch
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 10:39:55 PM

The BarackStar!'s concession speech/mellencamp concert is on now . . .


do you notice the three Abercrombie & Fitch kids behind him?

yep.  it's hilarious what the handlers put behind the candidates so they are part of the TV shot;  sometimes I pay more attention to that than what the candidate is saying.




I was wondering if A&F was a corporate sponsor of Obama... and found its already hitting the blogs tonight :-)

http://www.truthcaucus.com/2008/04/22/barack-obama-and-abercrombie-fitch

LOL!  I think The BarackStar!'s handlers put them in the background because they were white chilluns.  the appearance of a corporate sponsorship isn't going to go over well with the socialists at DU, though. :rotf: :rotf:

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 10:54:40 PM

55 (54.8)-45 with 95% in.

I think it will stay at 10.
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Lauri on April 22, 2008, 10:58:51 PM

The BarackStar!'s concession speech/mellencamp concert is on now . . .


do you notice the three Abercrombie & Fitch kids behind him?

yep.  it's hilarious what the handlers put behind the candidates so they are part of the TV shot;  sometimes I pay more attention to that than what the candidate is saying.




I was wondering if A&F was a corporate sponsor of Obama... and found its already hitting the blogs tonight :-)

http://www.truthcaucus.com/2008/04/22/barack-obama-and-abercrombie-fitch

LOL!  I think The BarackStar!'s handlers put them in the background because they were white chilluns.  the appearance of a corporate sponsorship isn't going to go over well with the socialists at DU, though. :rotf: :rotf:




well, i looked around and didnt find anything obvious about Barack and A&F but hopefully the DUmmies will be all put off with his blatant white boys in upscale clothing - the nerve! :-)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 11:00:17 PM

The BarackStar!'s concession speech/mellencamp concert is on now . . .


do you notice the three Abercrombie & Fitch kids behind him?

yep.  it's hilarious what the handlers put behind the candidates so they are part of the TV shot;  sometimes I pay more attention to that than what the candidate is saying.




I was wondering if A&F was a corporate sponsor of Obama... and found its already hitting the blogs tonight :-)

http://www.truthcaucus.com/2008/04/22/barack-obama-and-abercrombie-fitch

LOL!  I think The BarackStar!'s handlers put them in the background because they were white chilluns.  the appearance of a corporate sponsorship isn't going to go over well with the socialists at DU, though. :rotf: :rotf:




well, i looked around and didnt find anything obvious about Barack and A&F but hopefully the DUmmies will be all put off with his blatant white boys in upscale clothing - the nerve! :-)

I did too, and found nothing as well.  wouldn't that have been sweet. :-)

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 22, 2008, 11:01:44 PM

and dr. nutz is going to finish at around 16%. :whatever:
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 11:25:16 PM
Product placement?  Maybe that's how Obama raised $41 million in one month.

Found a few DU threads... they're not taking it seriously.  Well, some of them are.   :-)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Odin's Hand on April 22, 2008, 11:27:16 PM
Product placement?  Maybe that's how Obama raised $41 million in one month.

Found a few DU threads... they're not taking it seriously.  Well, some of them are.   :-)

"Razor blade" serious?
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 11:27:35 PM
Please (http://=http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5632519) shop (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5632656) at Abercrombie (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5633106) and Fitch. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5632878)
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 22, 2008, 11:29:21 PM
Product placement?  Maybe that's how Obama raised $41 million in one month.

Found a few DU threads... they're not taking it seriously.  Well, some of them are.   :-)

"Razor blade" serious?

no  :(

*sniff*
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 23, 2008, 12:06:27 AM

odd discrepancy between CNN's numbers and the PA SofS;  they are at 98.4 while CNN is reporting 99 . . .
but PA SofS has more votes for hillary, but fewer votes for obama . . . I don't see how that could happen,
unless the guys updating the PA SofS website are really confused, or the guys at CNN are just wrong.

in either case, this is beginning to look like it may be 54-46 . . . .

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 23, 2008, 12:13:12 AM

55 (54.8)-45 with 95% in.

I think it will stay at 10.

I am .2 away!!!!!
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 23, 2008, 12:21:09 AM

there are still a lot of votes out (91% in) in chester county, an obama county.  and philadelphia county seems stuck at 97% reporting :whatever:, as well as delaware county -- all obama counties.  I don't see any clinton counties with anything more than 1 or 2% of the precincts yet to count.

54-46 is looking more and more likely.

 
Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 23, 2008, 08:49:35 PM

it has been where it isw now for most of the day;  we're at 9.2 right now, 54.6% - 45.4%.  I doubt that changes much, with less than .5% of the precincts left.

Title: Re: PA Democrat Primary Thread (and betting pool)
Post by: Chris_ on April 23, 2008, 09:22:38 PM
:rofl:

"Hillary Wins Pennsylvania"
[youtube=425,350]5Mc3GQmGGms[/youtube]