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Title: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 08:19:27 PM

I will add to the poll as suggestions come in.

Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Chris_ on April 19, 2008, 08:21:04 PM
Condi!
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 08:25:55 PM
Condi!

indeed.  I added her.  good thought.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Chris_ on April 19, 2008, 08:26:37 PM
Condi!

indeed.  I added her.  good thought.

Now I voted -- guess for whom?
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 08:26:52 PM

I voted for lindsey graham. 
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 08:27:30 PM
Condi!

indeed.  I added her.  good thought.

Now I voted -- guess for whom?


gosh, I can't tell. :-)
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Odin's Hand on April 19, 2008, 08:28:33 PM
Duncan Hunter or Michael Steele
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: franksolich on April 19, 2008, 08:28:40 PM
I dunno.

Anybody's okay with me.

I've been watching John McCain, and am wondering about something.

He's taking an awful long time to indicate a preference for running-mate.

Of course, there's no rush on it, but it sort of seems to defy conventional political wisdom.

I could be way off base here, but I wonder.

John McCain is of course fully and sorely aware he doesn't enjoy the affections of a great many Republicans (he has mine, but I am affectionate towards any Republican), and being a professional in politics, and wanting to win the election, John McCain is fully and sorely aware he has to do something to make those Republicans more affectionate towards him.

So I'm wondering if John McCain's waiting for those Republicans who don't like him, to state THEIR preferences (I like Duncan Hunter myself), after which things go from there.

John McCain is no primitive; he wants BadCat's vote, and if it means BadCat has a big say (notice the word "big") in his running-mate, well, John McCain's going to listen to BadCat.

I could be way off base, but it seems odd, and this seems at least a possible explanation.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 08:30:15 PM

condi is awesome, but the conventional wisdom says that the VP nominee either has to deliver a state,
or fulfill a weakness in the presidential nominee.

we are totally stocked up on foreign policy with mccain.  but condi would put a portion of the african american
vote in play.



Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Chris_ on April 19, 2008, 08:30:16 PM
I dunno.

Anybody's okay with me.

I've been watching John McCain, and am wondering about something.

He's taking an awful long time to indicate a preference for running-mate.

Of course, there's no rush on it, but it sort of seems to defy conventional political wisdom.

I could be way off base here, but I wonder.

John McCain is of course fully and sorely aware he doesn't enjoy the affections of a great many Republicans (he has mine, but I am affectionate towards any Republican), and being a professional in politics, and wanting to win the election, John McCain is fully and sorely aware he has to do something to make those Republicans more affectionate towards him.

So I'm wondering if John McCain's waiting for those Republicans who don't like him, to state THEIR preferences (I like Duncan Hunter myself), after which things go from there.

John McCain is no primitive; he wants BadCat's vote, and if it means BadCat has a big say (notice the word "big") in his running-mate, well, John McCain's going to listen to BadCat.

I could be way off base, but it seems odd, and this seems at least a possible explanation.

I think he has a different candidate depending on who gets  the nod for the dims.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 08:31:49 PM
I dunno.

Anybody's okay with me.

I've been watching John McCain, and am wondering about something.

He's taking an awful long time to indicate a preference for running-mate.

Of course, there's no rush on it, but it sort of seems to defy conventional political wisdom.

I could be way off base here, but I wonder.

John McCain is of course fully and sorely aware he doesn't enjoy the affections of a great many Republicans (he has mine, but I am affectionate towards any Republican), and being a professional in politics, and wanting to win the election, John McCain is fully and sorely aware he has to do something to make those Republicans more affectionate towards him.

So I'm wondering if John McCain's waiting for those Republicans who don't like him, to state THEIR preferences (I like Duncan Hunter myself), after which things go from there.

John McCain is no primitive; he wants BadCat's vote, and if it means BadCat has a big say (notice the word "big") in his running-mate, well, John McCain's going to listen to BadCat.

I could be way off base, but it seems odd, and this seems at least a possible explanation.

he got the nomination early, relatively speaking.  the first bush tapped his veep the day before the convention.  W waited
until not too long before his convention, as well.

Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 08:33:24 PM
Duncan Hunter or Michael Steele

added. :wink:

Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: franksolich on April 19, 2008, 08:38:02 PM

he got the nomination early, relatively speaking.  the first bush tapped his veep the day before the convention.  W waited
until not too long before his convention, as well.



But usually there's clues, even slight ones.

I don't buy this McCain-Romney lovefest; I don't think it's going to happen.

However, even if my own speculation is erroneous, it's still a good bargaining-chip for those who don't like McCain, to use.

McCain wants, and needs, BadCat's vote.  It's up to BadCat (and all others alienated about McCain) to start saying, "Well, if you do such-and-such [as in the name of a running mate], I'll vote for you."

Even though John McCain is inevitable, for those who don't like him, I suggest you have some clout, and so should use it.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 08:40:26 PM

he got the nomination early, relatively speaking.  the first bush tapped his veep the day before the convention.  W waited
until not too long before his convention, as well.



But usually there's clues, even slight ones.

I don't buy this McCain-Romney lovefest; I don't think it's going to happen.

However, even if my own speculation is erroneous, it's still a good bargaining-chip for those who don't like McCain, to use.

McCain wants, and needs, BadCat's vote.  It's up to BadCat (and all others alienated about McCain) to start saying, "Well, if you do such-and-such [as in the name of a running mate], I'll vote for you."

Even though John McCain is inevitable, for those who don't like him, I suggest you have some clout, and so should use it.

BC will vote for mccain in november;  he is just playing "hard to get". :-)

rebel and I have our share of disagreements, but I think we agree on graham.

Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: franksolich on April 19, 2008, 08:48:49 PM
But the goal is to be sure BadCat, and others alienated by McCain, is happy about McCain.

A happy BadCat is a McCain voter who pulls in other voters for McCain.

Sure, sure, BadCat would probably vote for McCain if that's the bottom line, McCain or either of the two utterly deplorable Democrat choices, but as a McCain supporter (he was not my first choice, but now he's my choice), I want BadCat to be an enthusiastic voter for McCain.

And I think the best way to make BadCat happy is by naming a running-mate who BadCat likes--probably any of those mentioned in this poll, BadCat likes, but I can't speak for BadCat, other than as an exemplar of those less than happy with McCain.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 08:50:04 PM
But the goal is to be sure BadCat, and others alienated by McCain, is happy about McCain.

A happy BadCat is a McCain voter who pulls in other voters for McCain.

Sure, sure, BadCat would probably vote for McCain if that's the bottom line, McCain or either of the two utterly deplorable Democrat choices, but as a McCain supporter (he was not my first choice, but now he's my choice), I want BadCat to be an enthusiastic voter for McCain.

And I think the best way to make BadCat happy is by naming a running-mate who BadCat likes--probably any of those mentioned in this poll, BadCat likes, but I can't speak for BadCat, other than as an exemplar of those less than happy with McCain.

look, I am underwhelmed by mccain, and I have said so many times.

but the alternative is almost unthinkable.

Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: franksolich on April 19, 2008, 08:53:39 PM


look, I am underwhelmed by mccain, and I have said so many times.

but the alternative is almost unthinkable.



But again, you have clout.

More clout than a professional Republican such as I am, have.

I strongly suggest you, sir, and others like you, start talking up candidates for the vice-presidency that you like, suggesting that such a selection would make you more enthusiastic about McCain.

It's very possible, and good politics, that you get more than what you think you can get.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 08:57:41 PM


look, I am underwhelmed by mccain, and I have said so many times.

but the alternative is almost unthinkable.



But again, you have clout.

More clout than a professional Republican such as I am, have.

I strongly suggest you, sir, and others like you, start talking up candidates for the vice-presidency that you like, suggesting that such a selection would make you more enthusiastic about McCain.

It's very possible, and good politics, that you get more than what you think you can get.

I have read (and I also hear from various sources;  my Dad is very active in the party) that graham is making a strong
comeback.  mccain was pissed off at him because he didn't endorse him before the primary.

if I had to guess, I would guess that it will be graham, and that will make the base happy.

Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Rebel on April 19, 2008, 09:07:46 PM
Sanford isn't up there, so I'll refrain from voting.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 09:12:04 PM
Sanford isn't up there, so I'll refrain from voting.

added.

vote away, reb. :-)
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 09:28:45 PM
complex topic.  I have changed the poll to allow 2 votes for everyone.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Chris_ on April 19, 2008, 11:34:00 PM
I hate to say it, but I can't think of a single person that would accept the VP position that I like.  I have no idea who Mark Sanford is, but he can't be any worse than Charlie Crist.  I want to like Romney.  At least I can respect people who are successful in the business world, because it isn't easy.  My first answer is Grover Norquist, but outside of conservative circles and DC think-tanks, nobody knows who he is.  Maybe if John Linder were nominated he could finally get the Fair Tax pushed through.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 11:54:09 PM
 I am making this topic a sticky.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 19, 2008, 11:55:14 PM
I hate to say it, but I can't think of a single person that would accept the VP position that I like.  I have no idea who Mark Sanford is, but he can't be any worse than Charlie Crist.  I want to like Romney.  At least I can respect people who are successful in the business world, because it isn't easy.  My first answer is Grover Norquist, but outside of conservative circles and DC think-tanks, nobody knows who he is.  Maybe if John Linder were nominated he could finally get the Fair Tax pushed through.


who is john linder, and why should I care?

Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Chris_ on April 19, 2008, 11:56:58 PM
I hate to say it, but I can't think of a single person that would accept the VP position that I like.  I have no idea who Mark Sanford is, but he can't be any worse than Charlie Crist.  I want to like Romney.  At least I can respect people who are successful in the business world, because it isn't easy.  My first answer is Grover Norquist, but outside of conservative circles and DC think-tanks, nobody knows who he is.  Maybe if John Linder were nominated he could finally get the Fair Tax pushed through.

who is john linder, and why should I care?

He's a Representative from Georgia.  His only claim to fame is unsuccessfully pushing the Fair Tax every year. 
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Lacarnut on April 20, 2008, 07:49:33 PM

I will add to the poll as suggestions come in.



Newt is my first choice
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Chris_ on April 20, 2008, 07:57:12 PM
Dick Cheney, he is tried and proven.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Dixie*Darling on April 20, 2008, 08:54:19 PM
I really don't know a lot about any of these folks to make an informed decision. 

Condi of course would be wonderful I'm sure but I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that she's already stated that she's not interested.

I'm still luke warm over McCain.  Yes, I'll vote for him but mostly to keep a Dimwit out of office.  His amnesty bill still sticks in my craw for one, his feebleness (or seemingly so) is another reason.  To be perfectly honest, I feel we need a strong conservative as VP in case the old man croaks while in office.  I say that not in an ugly way, I'm sure y'all understand.

I guess as time draws closer and his choice is revealed, we'll get the chance to be better informed.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: mamacags on April 20, 2008, 10:17:18 PM
Lord Rove
Fred Thompson
Oliver North
Rick Santorum (love! him!)
Glenn Beck
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Rebel on April 20, 2008, 11:25:41 PM
who is john linder, and why should I care?



Dude, are you serious? What, you don't get Boortz in Charlestowne?
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Rebel on April 20, 2008, 11:28:12 PM
Sanford for me. There will be no changing my mind. People you guys have picked are either too blase in their attitude, too quiet, too controversial, or too unknown.

Mark Sanford will be president of these United States one day, mark my words. The only way he wouldn't be is if he decided he didn't want to run. He's a man of his word. A statesman, not a politician. I've never seen anyone like him. I'd follow him to the pits of hell.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 21, 2008, 09:23:27 AM
who is john linder, and why should I care?



Dude, are you serious? What, you don't get Boortz in Charlestowne?


if I had a dime for every time you have asked me that over the past several months, I would be a rich man. :-)

I encounter boortz infrequently;  I don't seek out libertarian commentators, and I don't often listen to talk radio. 
when I do run across him, it's a little unusual.



Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on April 21, 2008, 12:43:21 PM

I will add to the poll as suggestions come in.



I've always felt that the choice would have to be from up in the Great Lakes region and surrounding states, since that is the area where we've been closest to making gains.  I think that the obvious choice is Tim Pawlenty.

BTW, who is this Charlie Christ you speak of?  How is he related to Jesus? :rotf:
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: claret1995 on April 21, 2008, 03:23:23 PM

I will add to the poll as suggestions come in.



How bout Newt Gingrich
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on April 21, 2008, 03:32:21 PM
Lord Rove
Fred Thompson
Oliver North
Rick Santorum (love! him!)
Glenn Beck

The thing is that your first four candidates come with a lot of baggage, deserved or not.  For instance, I would have loved to have Fred as president, but his age just does not make him a viable veep candidate in my book.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on April 21, 2008, 03:44:32 PM

Newt & etc. made the cut.  After that, we are going with "other".  If "other" starts accumulating votes, we'll open it up.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Duke Nukum on April 28, 2008, 08:03:31 PM
I dunno.

Anybody's okay with me.

I've been watching John McCain, and am wondering about something.

He's taking an awful long time to indicate a preference for running-mate.

Of course, there's no rush on it, but it sort of seems to defy conventional political wisdom.

I could be way off base here, but I wonder.

John McCain is of course fully and sorely aware he doesn't enjoy the affections of a great many Republicans (he has mine, but I am affectionate towards any Republican), and being a professional in politics, and wanting to win the election, John McCain is fully and sorely aware he has to do something to make those Republicans more affectionate towards him.

So I'm wondering if John McCain's waiting for those Republicans who don't like him, to state THEIR preferences (I like Duncan Hunter myself), after which things go from there.

John McCain is no primitive; he wants BadCat's vote, and if it means BadCat has a big say (notice the word "big") in his running-mate, well, John McCain's going to listen to BadCat.

I could be way off base, but it seems odd, and this seems at least a possible explanation.
He's probably waiting for The New York Times to tell him who to choose.  His first instinct is to please the media.  First, Second, and even last when it is practical.  Pleasing his base is only an after thought when he takes a dive in the polls.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Lacarnut on April 28, 2008, 09:15:40 PM
I dunno.

Anybody's okay with me.

I've been watching John McCain, and am wondering about something.

He's taking an awful long time to indicate a preference for running-mate.

Of course, there's no rush on it, but it sort of seems to defy conventional political wisdom.

I could be way off base here, but I wonder.

John McCain is of course fully and sorely aware he doesn't enjoy the affections of a great many Republicans (he has mine, but I am affectionate towards any Republican), and being a professional in politics, and wanting to win the election, John McCain is fully and sorely aware he has to do something to make those Republicans more affectionate towards him.

So I'm wondering if John McCain's waiting for those Republicans who don't like him, to state THEIR preferences (I like Duncan Hunter myself), after which things go from there.

John McCain is no primitive; he wants BadCat's vote, and if it means BadCat has a big say (notice the word "big") in his running-mate, well, John McCain's going to listen to BadCat.

I could be way off base, but it seems odd, and this seems at least a possible explanation.
He's probably waiting for The New York Times to tell him who to choose.  His first instinct is to please the media.  First, Second, and even last when it is practical.  Pleasing his base is only an after thought when he takes a dive in the polls.

No big hurry. He is waiting to see who Obama picks as VP. Note, the Democraps have their convention first. Plenty of time for him to pick someone who will be a match for him and consevaties and independents.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Duke Nukum on April 28, 2008, 10:09:00 PM
I dunno.

Anybody's okay with me.

I've been watching John McCain, and am wondering about something.

He's taking an awful long time to indicate a preference for running-mate.

Of course, there's no rush on it, but it sort of seems to defy conventional political wisdom.

I could be way off base here, but I wonder.

John McCain is of course fully and sorely aware he doesn't enjoy the affections of a great many Republicans (he has mine, but I am affectionate towards any Republican), and being a professional in politics, and wanting to win the election, John McCain is fully and sorely aware he has to do something to make those Republicans more affectionate towards him.

So I'm wondering if John McCain's waiting for those Republicans who don't like him, to state THEIR preferences (I like Duncan Hunter myself), after which things go from there.

John McCain is no primitive; he wants BadCat's vote, and if it means BadCat has a big say (notice the word "big") in his running-mate, well, John McCain's going to listen to BadCat.

I could be way off base, but it seems odd, and this seems at least a possible explanation.
He's probably waiting for The New York Times to tell him who to choose.  His first instinct is to please the media.  First, Second, and even last when it is practical.  Pleasing his base is only an after thought when he takes a dive in the polls.

No big hurry. He is waiting to see who Obama picks as VP. Note, the Democraps have their convention first. Plenty of time for him to pick someone who will be a match for him and consevaties and independents.
I think it's going to depend on where he is in the polls and with his base at the time.  But if the media elites start a whisper campaign on their choice, it will be hard for him to resist.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Lacarnut on May 03, 2008, 01:51:15 AM

I think it's going to depend on where he is in the polls and with his base at the time.  But if the media elites start a whisper campaign on their choice, it will be hard for him to resist.
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If he thinks the media is his friend, he is a fool. The media is going to turn on him like a mad dog with rabies because they want a left wing liberal Democrap like Obama for Prez. 
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Baruch Menachem on May 03, 2008, 10:38:43 PM
I passionately detest McCain.

I hope something really embarrassing happens to him between now and July.  I would love an open convention.

I read a very interesting bio of Condi.  She is really amazing.  I would support her in heartbeat.  For anything.


Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 03, 2008, 10:40:06 PM
I passionately detest McCain.

I hope something really embarrassing happens to him between now and July.  I would love an open convention.

I read a very interesting bio of Condi.  She is really amazing.  I would support her in heartbeat.  For anything.




have you read a bio of mccain?

Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Baruch Menachem on May 03, 2008, 11:47:28 PM
What interests me is the lincoln S &  L thing, plus his playing footsie with Gore in 2000 during the primaries.

The lincoln thing suggests he is too stupid and/or too venial for the job, an impression just hammered in by his behavior during 2000 and the McCain/Fiengold debate.

It is like having the owner of the underage sailor's brothel as the chief vice crusader. :hammer:
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 04, 2008, 01:54:25 PM
Tough one. I voted for Duncan Hunter in the primary. Hopefully he can be Vice President.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Crystal on May 28, 2008, 12:43:51 AM
I like Hunter, but I don't think he could bring in enough votes..maybe I am wrong.

I love Condi, but I doubt she would.

I voted Michael Steele.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Zeus on May 28, 2008, 01:11:15 AM
Romney is more than likely out. It's been ages since a republican westerner headed a presidential ticket so Having 2 westerners on the ticket is just begging to be defied. Condi is out because she has made it Rather clear she doesn't want the gig. Lindsey Graham is rather iffy because he hasn't exactly endeared himself to conservatives the last couple years. Duncan Hunter won't get the nod because he pandered way to much in his unsuccessful bid to top the ticket. Newt is debatable as to wether he would be more of an asset or a liability,myself I could get behind a Newt VP, it not likely to happen though. Crist is the most likely of the ones mentioned so far. Crist has high favorability ratings and Florida is big EC prize.

We don't elect a VP but Because of McCain's conservative credentials credibility , real or imaged, It is very possible his pick as a running mate will be a Deal or No deal breaker.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Crystal on May 28, 2008, 01:29:42 AM
Romney is more than likely out. It's been ages since a republican westerner headed a presidential ticket so Having 2 westerners on the ticket is just begging to be defied. Condi is out because she has made it Rather clear she doesn't want the gig. Lindsey Graham is rather iffy because he hasn't exactly endeared himself to conservatives the last couple years. Duncan Hunter won't get the nod because he pandered way to much in his unsuccessful bid to top the ticket. Newt is debatable as to wether he would be more of an asset or a liability,myself I could get behind a Newt VP, it not likely to happen though. Crist is the most likely of the ones mentioned so far. Crist has high favorability ratings and Florida is big EC prize.

We don't elect a VP but Because of McCain's conservative credentials credibility , real or imaged, It is very possible his pick as a running mate will be a Deal or No deal breaker.

I agree with most of that except Romney might not be THAT bad.


As for Newt...I am now put off by him after seeing him in a commercial with Pelosi on global warming. I couldn't believe it.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Zeus on May 28, 2008, 10:54:14 AM

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I agree with most of that except Romney might not be THAT bad.


As for Newt...I am now put off by him after seeing him in a commercial with Pelosi on global warming. I couldn't believe it.

[/quote]

The situation with Romney isn't about wether he'd be any good or not. It's basically about avgs,historical & statistically. McCain is already battling the odds no use in adding to those odds.

The deal about Global warming is although many think it is bunk many more have bought into and changes they are a happening. Sometimes playing nice with folks give you more input on a situation thereby Minimizing the neg effects of any action taken. It ain't purty but it's reality.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Crystal on May 28, 2008, 01:12:24 PM


The situation with Romney isn't about wether he'd be any good or not. It's basically about avgs,historical & statistically. McCain is already battling the odds no use in adding to those odds.

The deal about Global warming is although many think it is bunk many more have bought into and changes they are a happening. Sometimes playing nice with folks give you more input on a situation thereby Minimizing the neg effects of any action taken. It ain't purty but it's reality.

I am not sure what you are saying here. Newt was playing nice with libs/Pelosi...because...???
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 28, 2008, 01:16:31 PM
the timing could become tricky.  the dem convention ends on august 28, and ours starts september 1.  that's a friday, saturday, and sunday before our convention begins on monday.

I suppose the dems will have to name their veep first, one way or another.  traditionally, the veep nominees are named just before their respective conventions;  cheney was named a week before the the convention in 2000.  this year, the week before the GOP convention is the dem convention, so you can't do it then.  and if mccain tried to nominate his running mate in the very few days in between the conventions, it would probably get drowned out by the aftershock of the dem convention.

but the way things are going in this election cycle, they will probably nominate their running mates next week, and pound on each other for two months before the general election even gets under way.

Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Zeus on May 28, 2008, 03:34:36 PM


The situation with Romney isn't about wether he'd be any good or not. It's basically about avgs,historical & statistically. McCain is already battling the odds no use in adding to those odds.

The deal about Global warming is although many think it is bunk many more have bought into and changes they are a happening. Sometimes playing nice with folks give you more input on a situation thereby Minimizing the neg effects of any action taken. It ain't purty but it's reality.

I am not sure what you are saying here. Newt was playing nice with libs/Pelosi...because...???

Global warming real or imagined changes have been made & more to come.  You can do more in the way of damage control on the inside than standing outside letting them have their way.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Lacarnut on May 28, 2008, 04:15:57 PM


The situation with Romney isn't about wether he'd be any good or not. It's basically about avgs,historical & statistically. McCain is already battling the odds no use in adding to those odds.

The deal about Global warming is although many think it is bunk many more have bought into and changes they are a happening. Sometimes playing nice with folks give you more input on a situation thereby Minimizing the neg effects of any action taken. It ain't purty but it's reality.

I am not sure what you are saying here. Newt was playing nice with libs/Pelosi...because...???

Global warming real or imagined changes have been made & more to come.  You can do more in the way of damage control on the inside than standing outside letting them have their way.

Newt was just being diplomatic. He acknowledges global warming and climate change which includes global cooling. As long as money is not thrown at it, no harm, no foul.

I think Newt would be a great choice for VP. He would certainly bring conservatives into the fold. McCain needs to win the Presidency because the Repubs are going to take a pounding in the Senate races. 
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Miss Mia on May 28, 2008, 04:29:33 PM
I didn't vote in the poll but what I think for GOP VP

Charlie Crist, has obvious potential, plus he's from Florida
Possibly Rick Perry (Gov of Texas), but I doubt that. 
Romney


I think he's going to go with Crist. I think McCain's definitely going to go with a Governor. 
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 28, 2008, 04:33:42 PM
The base would flip out if he picked crist.

But it wouldn't surprise me if he did it anyway.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: BEG on May 28, 2008, 04:43:36 PM
I didn't vote in the poll but what I think for GOP VP

Charlie Crist, has obvious potential, plus he's from Florida
Possibly Rick Perry (Gov of Texas), but I doubt that. 
Romney


I think he's going to go with Crist. I think McCain's definitely going to go with a Governor. 

Every time I see Charlie Crist on TV I think his last name is CRISP because he looks like he has been tanning as much as George Hamilton.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Lacarnut on May 28, 2008, 04:45:42 PM
I hope he does not pick the newly elected governor of Louisiana, Bobby Jindal. We finally have a good, honest, articulate politician to run this state, and the thought of Senator Mary Landrieu brother, Mitch L., taking over blows me away.    
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Crazy Horse on May 28, 2008, 05:10:15 PM
Mark Sanford..............no other choices.

And Lindsey Grahmnesty................HELL NO.........plus two Senators would never win
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Lacarnut on May 28, 2008, 05:19:49 PM
Phil Graham, ex-senator from TX, is responsible for digging McCain's campaign up from the grave. So it would not surprise me if he choose his good friend as VP.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Zeus on May 28, 2008, 05:25:26 PM
I didn't vote in the poll but what I think for GOP VP

Charlie Crist, has obvious potential, plus he's from Florida
Possibly Rick Perry (Gov of Texas), but I doubt that. 
Romney


I think he's going to go with Crist. I think McCain's definitely going to go with a Governor. 

I think you can forget about Rick Perry getting the nod for a couple reasons.  McCain doesn't have to worry about Texas ,it's already in the bag. Also Rick isn't all that popular a Governor. He is not disliked by many he just hasn't performed to expectations.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Zeus on May 28, 2008, 05:30:27 PM
Phil Graham, ex-senator from TX, is responsible for digging McCain's campaign up from the grave. So it would not surprise me if he choose his good friend as VP.

Now that goofy looking dude would be a good choice but once again McCain doesn't have to worry about carrying Texas.

John Kasich would be a good choice. Fiscal Conservative and he is also from a battleground state,Ohio.

That and he works for Fox News  :naughty:
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: formerlurker on May 28, 2008, 05:35:08 PM
I dunno.

Anybody's okay with me.

I've been watching John McCain, and am wondering about something.

He's taking an awful long time to indicate a preference for running-mate.

Of course, there's no rush on it, but it sort of seems to defy conventional political wisdom.

I could be way off base here, but I wonder.

John McCain is of course fully and sorely aware he doesn't enjoy the affections of a great many Republicans (he has mine, but I am affectionate towards any Republican), and being a professional in politics, and wanting to win the election, John McCain is fully and sorely aware he has to do something to make those Republicans more affectionate towards him.

So I'm wondering if John McCain's waiting for those Republicans who don't like him, to state THEIR preferences (I like Duncan Hunter myself), after which things go from there.

John McCain is no primitive; he wants BadCat's vote, and if it means BadCat has a big say (notice the word "big") in his running-mate, well, John McCain's going to listen to BadCat.

I could be way off base, but it seems odd, and this seems at least a possible explanation.

No.   Announcing his VP now makes no sense, and totally wastes front page media time.   He waits until the democrats have a nomination, and a VP -- then he makes announcement, or the Democrats will be front page through November.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Lacarnut on May 28, 2008, 06:21:50 PM
Phil Graham, ex-senator from TX, is responsible for digging McCain's campaign up from the grave. So it would not surprise me if he choose his good friend as VP.

Now that goofy looking dude would be a good choice but once again McCain doesn't have to worry about carrying Texas.

John Kasich would be a good choice. Fiscal Conservative and he is also from a battleground state,Ohio.

That and he works for Fox News  :naughty:

Nothing goofy looking about Graham but your point is well taken. McCain will probably pick someone that is much younger, fresh and clean too. :-)
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Miss Mia on May 28, 2008, 07:16:20 PM
I didn't vote in the poll but what I think for GOP VP

Charlie Crist, has obvious potential, plus he's from Florida
Possibly Rick Perry (Gov of Texas), but I doubt that. 
Romney


I think he's going to go with Crist. I think McCain's definitely going to go with a Governor. 


Agreed!  :rofl:  He's sooo tan and teeth sooo white you can't look at him directly. 
Every time I see Charlie Crist on TV I think his last name is CRISP because he looks like he has been tanning as much as George Hamilton.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 28, 2008, 10:47:54 PM
I hope he does not pick the newly elected governor of Louisiana, Bobby Jindal. We finally have a good, honest, articulate politician to run this state, and the thought of Senator Mary Landrieu brother, Mitch L., taking over blows me away.   

jindal is going to be a star in the party, but it's too soon.  let him be a successful governor.  we need heavyweights on the ticket, so we can more effectively point out obama's experience problem at the top of their ticket.

of the possibilities, I think I am coming down for mark sanford.

 
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 28, 2008, 10:50:39 PM
Phil Graham, ex-senator from TX, is responsible for digging McCain's campaign up from the grave. So it would not surprise me if he choose his good friend as VP.

you know, I was a huge phil gramm supporter when he ran in 96.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Crystal on May 29, 2008, 12:32:51 AM


The situation with Romney isn't about wether he'd be any good or not. It's basically about avgs,historical & statistically. McCain is already battling the odds no use in adding to those odds.

The deal about Global warming is although many think it is bunk many more have bought into and changes they are a happening. Sometimes playing nice with folks give you more input on a situation thereby Minimizing the neg effects of any action taken. It ain't purty but it's reality.

I am not sure what you are saying here. Newt was playing nice with libs/Pelosi...because...???

Global warming real or imagined changes have been made & more to come.  You can do more in the way of damage control on the inside than standing outside letting them have their way.


Since I do not trust any politician now days, and I have no way to know that that is really what he is/was doing, I am still very leery of what he did, as to my knowledge, he never hinted that was what he was doing.
I really didn't care for it when he was working with Hillary on health care either.

I always liked Newt...now I don't know.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Miss Mia on May 29, 2008, 12:39:59 AM
Phil Graham, ex-senator from TX, is responsible for digging McCain's campaign up from the grave. So it would not surprise me if he choose his good friend as VP.

you know, I was a huge phil gramm supporter when he ran in 96.

Honestly, I'm too young to know about Phil Gramm.  I don't remember much about him, and haven't taken any time to learn either.  By the time I started paying attention to politics Cornyn was senator (along with Hutchinson).

You know I can see Kay Bailey Hutchinson possibly being added to the ticket.  She's already said she's not running for re-election to the senate next go around.  There's been hints that she'll run for governor. 
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 29, 2008, 12:46:54 AM
Phil Graham, ex-senator from TX, is responsible for digging McCain's campaign up from the grave. So it would not surprise me if he choose his good friend as VP.

you know, I was a huge phil gramm supporter when he ran in 96.

Honestly, I'm too young to know about Phil Gramm.  I don't remember much about him, and haven't taken any time to learn either.  By the time I started paying attention to politics Cornyn was senator (along with Hutchinson).

You know I can see Kay Bailey Hutchinson possibly being added to the ticket.  She's already said she's not running for re-election to the senate next go around.  There's been hints that she'll run for governor. 

that's a thought. but two senators on the same ticket is widely viewed as a problem.  and I'm not sure that would satisfy the base, although her lifetime ACU rating is over 90 . . .

Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Miss Mia on May 29, 2008, 12:52:31 AM
Phil Graham, ex-senator from TX, is responsible for digging McCain's campaign up from the grave. So it would not surprise me if he choose his good friend as VP.

you know, I was a huge phil gramm supporter when he ran in 96.

Honestly, I'm too young to know about Phil Gramm.  I don't remember much about him, and haven't taken any time to learn either.  By the time I started paying attention to politics Cornyn was senator (along with Hutchinson).

You know I can see Kay Bailey Hutchinson possibly being added to the ticket.  She's already said she's not running for re-election to the senate next go around.  There's been hints that she'll run for governor. 

that's a thought. but two senators on the same ticket is widely viewed as a problem.  and I'm not sure that would satisfy the base, although her lifetime ACU rating is over 90 . . .



Oh, you're right about the two senator thingy, I didn't think of that.  I think he'll go with Crist.  Crist has been a very visible supporter already and it would solidify Florida for the republicans. 

Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Zeus on May 29, 2008, 02:40:09 AM
McCain won't pick Kay Bailey Hutchinson . He already has problems with restoring his conservative credentials without adding a moderate to liberal republican to the ticket. Hell even her main Financial supporters of hers told her they would withdraw their support if she ran for gov the last go round.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Ree on June 01, 2008, 03:16:35 PM
There's talk on the Prairie it could be Thune
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Tantal on June 11, 2008, 11:36:37 AM
Jindal. The more I hear him, the more I like him. Aside from his age, I haven't heard a single negative on him.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: djones520 on July 21, 2008, 05:01:13 PM
Well I just read that McCain is gonna announce his VEEP pick this week to help counter the media wave that Obama is getting for his trip.

$10 it's Ron Paul.   :tongue:
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Willow on July 21, 2008, 05:35:53 PM
Phil Graham, ex-senator from TX, is responsible for digging McCain's campaign up from the grave. So it would not surprise me if he choose his good friend as VP.

you know, I was a huge phil gramm supporter when he ran in 96.



Honestly, I'm too young to know about Phil Gramm.  I don't remember much about him, and haven't taken any time to learn either.  By the time I started paying attention to politics Cornyn was senator (along with Hutchinson).

You know I can see Kay Bailey Hutchinson possibly being added to the ticket.  She's already said she's not running for re-election to the senate next go around.  There's been hints that she'll run for governor. 

that's a thought. but two senators on the same ticket is widely viewed as a problem.  and I'm not sure that would satisfy the base, although her lifetime ACU rating is over 90 . . .



Oh, you're right about the two senator thingy, I didn't think of that.  I think he'll go with Crist.  Crist has been a very visible supporter already and it would solidify Florida for the republicans. 






I think Crist is probably very high on the list, he is very popular in Florida! I think though with the economy in the tank he will pick Romney!
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Lacarnut on July 21, 2008, 11:56:05 PM
Well I just read that McCain is gonna announce his VEEP pick this week to help counter the media wave that Obama is getting for his trip.

$10 it's Ron Paul.   :tongue:

He is going to make a major announcement in Louisiana Thursday. Don't know whether it will be a VP pick or not. Hoping it is not Jindal; we need him as Gov. for 8 years in this state to clean up the mess.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Duke Nukum on July 22, 2008, 07:31:20 PM
Well I just read that McCain is gonna announce his VEEP pick this week to help counter the media wave that Obama is getting for his trip.

$10 it's Ron Paul.   :tongue:

He is going to make a major announcement in Louisiana Thursday. Don't know whether it will be a VP pick or not. Hoping it is not Jindal; we need him as Gov. for 8 years in this state to clean up the mess.
I switch one of my votes to Jindal, that would be fantabulous!  He's kind of young but seems way more mature and experienced than the Messiah.  Yeah!  This could work!
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: cottondress on July 27, 2008, 03:40:53 PM
I spose there is a rule about having more than 1 VP? Bummer. I go with Romney for the economy, Steele for smarts and appeal,Jindal for broad appeal,and Crist for Florida and hes so darn cute  :naughty:
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: miskie on July 27, 2008, 04:40:23 PM
Id go with Romney and Rice -

Romney works fairly well economically, and has a way of getting things done even when surrounded by Democrats - Since he would be working closely with The House and Senate, this is important. He is all an excellent speaker and exudes statesman, A VP spot would line him up for a run at President at the end of McCain's term.

Condi - because like GWB, she is unwavering in her positions. Leadership takes foresight and fortitude and she possess both. Her experience with the current GWoT and inside knowledge on international relations would be most helpful in terms of diplomacy.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 01, 2008, 05:19:27 PM

I am thinking about changing my vote to Sarah Palin, governor of alaska.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: SemiSpook on August 03, 2008, 01:07:25 PM
Who the hell thinks Tom Ridge is a good idea? Granted, he was my governor for 7 years, but remember his plastic wrap and duct tape rant from 2002?

Unfit for command, as they say.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Donpeyote on August 03, 2008, 01:08:36 PM
 Bob Doles wife ! :popcorn:
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: cottondress on August 03, 2008, 07:33:06 PM

I am thinking about changing my vote to Sarah Palin, governor of alaska.


I like her to...today I heard some one on a talking head show on Fox say forget about her...she has her own scandel brewing...anyone know what thats about??
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: rich_t on August 03, 2008, 08:17:06 PM

I am thinking about changing my vote to Sarah Palin, governor of alaska.


I like her to...today I heard some one on a talking head show on Fox say forget about her...she has her own scandel brewing...anyone know what thats about??

I haven't heard anything along those lines.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Jim on August 03, 2008, 08:39:19 PM

I am thinking about changing my vote to Sarah Palin, governor of alaska.


I like her to...today I heard some one on a talking head show on Fox say forget about her...she has her own scandel brewing...anyone know what thats about??



something about getting her sister's ex fired, pretty lame.
seems to be going away, we'll see.

http://www.adn.com/politics/story/469135.html
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Donpeyote on August 07, 2008, 02:01:08 PM
 Bob Doles wife !
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Donpeyote on August 18, 2008, 11:22:21 AM
 Bob Doles wife ! :popcorn:
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: debk on August 18, 2008, 11:28:22 AM
Jindal was interviewed on either Meet the Press or Mike Wallace yesterday morning and said he would not be the VP choice. Felt his place, for now, was to help LA get back on track and that's where he's needed right now....and where he planned to stay.

Crist would certainly bring in FL. I think he'll put Romney in his Cabinet.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 24, 2008, 02:10:52 AM

mccain needs a chick now.  sarah palin is having her problems, but I would pick her.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Donpeyote on August 25, 2008, 01:06:23 AM
 Bob Doles Wife ...
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: tuolumnejim on August 27, 2008, 03:30:39 PM
I had to vote other, to capture the vote with someone that may not be bad at all I say Governor Sarah Palin (http://gov.state.ak.us/).
It goes against my grain as one who thinks that the 19th Amendment needs to be repealed, but that ticket just may get McCain in over osamaobama.  :-)
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Donpeyote on August 28, 2008, 12:10:30 AM

mccain needs a chick now.  sarah palin is having her problems, but I would pick her.
Bob Doles Wife ! :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Duke Nukum on August 28, 2008, 12:21:55 AM

mccain needs a chick now.  sarah palin is having her problems, but I would pick her.
Bob Doles Wife ! :cheersmate:
I'm starting to lean toward Mayor McCheese.  From the old McDonald commercials where they ripped of H. R. PuffNStuff.

If he's going to go with a chick, I think it should be Sarah Michelle Geller.  She's as unqualified as any Senator and she's hawt.

I mean, why are we still pretending this is anything more than a "please the media" contest?  If we are going to be trying to please the media, let's give them something they will really be pleased with.  And someone I don't mind looking at on TV a lot.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Rebel on August 28, 2008, 12:25:54 AM
While Palin would be great to look at the next 4, she's not experienced enough. More than Obama, I'll give you, being the Mayor of Wasilla and the governor of Alaska, but not enough for me.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Miss Mia on August 29, 2008, 07:35:31 AM
Reporting now, it's not Romney or Pawlenty.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: NHSparky on August 29, 2008, 07:48:47 AM
Ooooooo...Palin?

A VP with hawtness?  AND conservative?

Me likey!

BTW--this just in...FR THREAD LINK (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2070367/posts)

They've had this up since 2AM EDT.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: scott on August 29, 2008, 03:59:06 PM
Perhaps this is where I should actually join the cave, if I'm welcome.

I like Palin, and think this is a brilliant pick.  I also think this solidifies the argument of style over substance is over.
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Donpeyote on August 29, 2008, 06:09:05 PM
 Lifetime NRA member Sarah Palin ! :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Who is your choice for VP?
Post by: Chris on August 29, 2008, 06:12:53 PM
Maybe we can finally un-sticky this thread :-)