Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-11-11 06:42 PMhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1279073
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Is this year's heat weather or climate change?
I heard a scientist from Stanford University on the radio today. He and his colleagues are of the opinion that this heat is, in fact, climate change. They believe it to still be reversible, but not for much longer.
They predict that if we do nothing, the tropics will suffer the first permanent climate shift, wherein their coolest summers will be hotter than the hottest summers from years past. They think this can happen as soon as 20 years from now.
If nothing else happens, the same fate will hit the temperate latitudes by the last quarter of the century.
JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-11-11 06:45 PM
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1. I'd say, the current heat is Weather.
The way the weather seems to be osculating more dramatically in recent years ... climate change.
madmax (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-11-11 06:58 PM
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4. I must always use the term 'Climate Change'
when discussing this with mouth breathers because 'Global Warming' gives them a come back of yeah, that's why it snowed... blah blah <sigh>
Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-11-11 07:08 PM
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5. That's the thing about climate change.
We're still frantically trying to understand the CURRENT patterns WITHOUT taking into account the added heat caused by CO2 emissions.
If the Gulf Stream stops, it may plunge Northern Europe into a cold period. But then, it may also cause heat spells and droughts in the southern US. UNLESS it affects the El Nino/La Nina systems. Then it's anybody's guess.
One thing's for sure. Extreme weather effects are going to be the NORM, not the exception. Just look at Australia. Floods, droughts and fires like they've never seen.
It'll be here soon enough.
grasswire (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-11-11 07:10 PM
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6. the alternative press in Portland has an article warning of an influx...
...of "climate refugees" who will seek out the more temperate Pacific Northwest soon, and begging for local leaders to begin planning for such a population shift from those who now live in the areas that will suffer severe drought and extremes. I'm not gonna like having millions more Californians edging north.
The DUmmies claim that oil is a finite resource that comes from long dead animals, right? There is a whole lot of oil up in Alaska and Northern Russia. Place that don't currently support the numbers of animals to have produced so much oil. Maybe, just maybe those areas were much warmer, but are now cold because , get ready for it.....
Earth's Climate Changes on it's OWN!!!
Oh, but you forget, sir.It's really remarkable that the people who claim to be most authoritative on nature, to the point of demanding we
Whatshisname lives in a place utterly surrounded by man-made things, and so in his limited perception, man and man-made things are big enough to influence the climate.
Whatshisname has obviously never seen nature in its natural state.
The world is much bigger than he thinks.
Oh, but you forget, sir.
Whatshisname lives in a place utterly surrounded by man-made things, and so in his limited perception, man and man-made things are big enough to influence the climate.
Whatshisname has obviously never seen nature in its natural state.
The world is much bigger than he thinks.
Stimpy makes his bazillionth boring-as-hell post, this time quoting some unnamed moonbat from Stanford on the Algore climate problem. Stanford, you may recall, is the only place on earth as wild-eyed crazy as Berkeley. Amazingly, they're only an hour's drive apart. Their proximity has apparently resulted in a critical mass of madness, with a subsequent meltdown of judgement. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1279073
The climate change catastrophe is reversible, but only if all American businesses and the American way of life are shut down within the next few months. The jug-eared muslim has been trying his best, but American business has proven to be more resilient than expected.
And what's up with this "hotter summers in the tropics" business? I thought it was always hot in the tropics, where the seasons are just "dry" and
"wet". I spent a couple of weeks in Caracas one February (pre-Yugo), and it was hot as hell. Are glaciers melting there, too? I never watch Keef, The Munch, or the Algore channel, so I'm not up on this stuff.
Well, I suppose if the weather sucks you could say it osculates. These DUmmies come up with one beauty after another.
I thought after the jug-eared messiah was elected, we wouldn't have floods or droughts anymore, and we'd only have fires for s'mores.
The main reason I noticed this thread:
The "alternative press" would be those papers the panhandlers try to peddle when you're waiting at a stoplight. They have all the good news, I guess. Never had one in my hands.
But the main thing is, here's DUmmy grasswire talking again about being in freaking Oregon! No Wisconsin pie shop / weed emporium! She did say her former friend wanted her ass out of his bonus room up there on that Wisconsin farmette, then not another word. Lots of excitement about the pie shop / head shop though, recipes being worked on, concern for diabetic potheads, etc., etc. Now here is at least the second reference to being in Oregon.
I think DUmmy grasswire owes us an explanation. Poor, stupid Beth finally let us know she's trying to avoid foreclosure on the camper, with some illegal Mexicans filling in the ravines washed through the trail back to the county gravel road. Now we need an update from DUmmy grasswire. Where is she freeloading this time? Will a pie shop work in Oregon, considering that weed is far more easily available than in rural Wisconsin? After all, if DUmmy grasswire is now in Oregon, she's practically a next door neighbor to Humboldt County, the weed capital of the Northern Hemisphere. Pie may not be as attractive there.
Stinky, il nostro tempo è rimasta sostanzialmente immutata per 10.000 anni, il tempo è ciclico, siamo fortunati è rimasto come è stato per tutti questi anni.Wow, I put some Mexican in the thread title, and now here's a reply written in Jersey. Is this place cosmopolitan, or what?
Wow, I put some Mexican in the thread title, and now here's a reply written in Jersey. Is this place cosmopolitan, or what?
Wow, I put some Mexican in the thread title, and now here's a reply written in Jersey. Is this place cosmopolitan, or what?
I think he means drinks with little umbrellas in them.I thought it was that blue stuff, ordered exclusively by chicks and homos. Do they use umbrellas?
But the main thing is, here's DUmmy grasswire talking again about being in freaking Oregon! No Wisconsin pie shop / weed emporium! She did say her former friend wanted her ass out of his bonus room up there on that Wisconsin farmette, then not another word. Lots of excitement about the pie shop / head shop though, recipes being worked on, concern for diabetic potheads, etc., etc. Now here is at least the second reference to being in Oregon.
I think DUmmy grasswire owes us an explanation. Poor, stupid Beth finally let us know she's trying to avoid foreclosure on the camper, with some illegal Mexicans filling in the ravines washed through the trail back to the county gravel road. Now we need an update from DUmmy grasswire. Where is she freeloading this time? Will a pie shop work in Oregon, considering that weed is far more easily available than in rural Wisconsin? After all, if DUmmy grasswire is now in Oregon, she's practically a next door neighbor to Humboldt County, the weed capital of the Northern Hemisphere. Pie may not be as attractive there.
It could very well be that the grasswire primitive's still in Wisconsin.....if she was ever in Wisconsin.....or that she's really in Oregon, being passed around like the helpless old aunt who needs a home even if it's a relative's attic.Her degree of interest and enthusiasm for the hoodlums and vandals who came to desecrate the Wisconsin statehouse makes me believe she really was still on the farmette. But learning how many decent and civilized people are keeping an eye out for news of a non-profit pie shop / hippie music and weed den opening somewhere in the Milwaukee - Madison region may have made her nervous. Then learning of coach's increasingly frequent, but always mysterious journeys to the east and north of the Sandhills could have brought on a full-blown panic. After all, when one claims to be rolling through the endless, uninhabited wheat fields of North Dakota, there are no witnesses to confirm that. Ever since the freepers killed Andy, any attention from franksolich carries sinister and dangerous implications in the DUmbass mind.
It could equally well be a childish ploy to mislead; the grasswire primitive, like Mrs. Alfred Packer, probably paranoiadly thinks franksolich is stalking her when in fact no such nonsense is going on, or has ever gone on. But these are primitives, with their obsessive "need" to feel persecuted.
It could very well be that the grasswire primitive's still in Wisconsin.....if she was ever in Wisconsin.....or that she's really in Oregon, being passed around like the helpless old aunt who needs a home even if it's a relative's attic.
She's not smart enough to run a scheme like that. She's where she says she is.
She's not smart enough to run a scheme like that. She's where she says she is.