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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: BlueStateSaint on May 23, 2011, 11:52:08 AM
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What an expletive-deleted fine thing to do to the people of California.
Supreme Court orders California to release tens of thousands of prison inmates
The 5-4 decision represents one of the largest prison release orders in U.S. history. The court majority says overcrowding has caused 'suffering and death.' In a sharp dissent, Justice Antonin Scalia warns 'terrible things are sure to happen.'
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By David G. Savage, Washington Bureau
May 23, 2011, 8:56 a.m.
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ordered California on Monday to release tens of thousands of its prisoners to relieve overcrowding, saying that "needless suffering and death" had resulted from putting too many inmates into facilities that cannot hold them in decent conditions.
It is one of the largest prison release orders in the nation's history, and it sharply split the high court.
Justices upheld an order from a three-judge panel in California that called for releasing 38,000 to 46,000 prisoners. Since then, the state has transferred about 9,000 state inmates to county jails. As a result, the total prison population is now about 32,000 more than the capacity limit set by the panel.
Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, speaking for the majority, said California's prisons had "fallen short of minimum constitutional requirements" because of overcrowding. As many as 200 prisoners may live in gymnasium, he said, and as many as 54 prisoners share a single toilet.
Kennedy insisted that the state had no choice but to release more prisoners. The justices, however, agreed that California officials should be given more time to make the needed reductions.
The rest is here:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/sc-dc-0524-court-prisons-web-20110523,0,2337401.story
If you live in Cali, GTFO now!
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They can't build prisons fast enough to hold the Mexican criminals coming up here "just to work".
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What's wrong with tents? They seem to work in Arizona.
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Maybe they should speed up processes on death row.
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I wonder if CA is one of the states where convicted felons can still vote after they're discharged from custody.
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I wonder if CA is one of the states where convicted felons can still vote after they're discharged from custody.
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It sure is :whatever:
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It sure is :whatever:
Well go figger.
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They can't build prisons fast enough to hold the Mexican criminals coming up here "just to work".
Castro had the right idea....just DUmp'em in the next country. In this case it would be Mexico where they came from.
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In dissent, Justice Antonin Scalia called the ruling "staggering" and "absurd."
He said the high court had repeatedly overruled the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals for ordering the release of individual prisoners. Now, he said, the majority were ordering the release of "46,000 happy-go-lucky felons." He added that "terrible things are sure to happen as a consequence of this outrageous order." Justice Clarence Thomas agreed with him.
In a separate dissent, Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. said the ruling conflicted with a federal law intended to limit the power of federal judges to order a release of prisoners.
Libs don't let a little thing like the law get in the way. One more lefty on the bench and goodbye Constitution.
The American Civil Liberties Union said the court had "done the right thing" by addressing the "egregious and extreme overcrowding in California's prisons."
David Fathi, director of the ACLU national prison project, said "reducing the number of people in prison not only would save the state taxpayers half a billion annually, it would lead to the implementation of truly rehabilitative programs that lower recidivism rates and create safer communities."
They should all be placed in his community. See how safe he feels then.
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I think its safe to say a society can be fairly well judged by the state of its prisons.
California? Ya, pretty much ****ed.
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Send em to San Francisco
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Send them by the bus load to Tijuana .
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Great, another crime wave is going to happen in California. What a dangerous ruling. More reasons we shouldn't have leftists on the bench.
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None of our dreams will occur. What will occur is an exodus of the law-abiding population, and a dearth of tourists.
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Send em to Cuba!
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Wow, what a deal. Commit a crime, get out of jail. What a joke!
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What could possibly go wrong with that?
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Dear God, get my family out of CA.
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Dear God, get my family out of CA.
Interesting, we have in New Hampshire a multi million dollar prison that is EMPTY, ---Are you listening Sparky???
The State does not have the money to man and care for anyone to be incarcerated within it, but still has to pay big bucks to maintain the empty prison. Google the facts as I am too tired to find a link to this today.
There must be other states with empty prisons that the Feds Will not give a penny to, to put into use but still cost the state to maintain.
Private prisons are interesting, but it is interesting that those with money and influence like that Logan woman are let off with a no room at the Inn and not sent elsewhere where there is a Vacancy sign.
So who are to be released from prison in California, a strange thought here, what would Charles Manson do if he was to be released after all these years fighting to stay in a safe place. Would he be dragged kicking and screaming out the door, thrown into a life where everyone wants to kill him???
Are the prisoners going to be released considered low risk to the public???? Sure that is to be ignored of why they are incarcerated any way.
Perhaps that armored vest will go over big and make the seller a millionare in California, were that to happen to my area I would find a way to turn 3 of the vests into a full body suit, put bars on the windows adopt Pit Bulls and never leave my house.
Why can't we build prisons up in Alaska 200 miles away from civilisation and if the worse of the worse want to make a run for it, no problem, if the bears don't get them the flys will in the day light and the bears or the cold at night.
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As many as 200 prisoners may live in gymnasium, he said, and as many as 54 prisoners share a single toilet.
Huh. There's another word for that. It's called a 688-class submarine. Actually, the boat is MORE crowded.
Oh, and vesta--you make the charge, YOU back your shit up. If you're too tired to make the statement, tough shit. Maybe if states weren't spending their money on cush retirement plans and instead doing what government is SUPPOSED to be doing, well....
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Why can't we build prisons up in Alaska 200 miles away from civilisation and if the worse of the worse want to make a run for it, no problem, if the bears don't get them the flys will in the day light and the bears or the cold at night.
Numero uno, because it would be considerably more expensive to house people in even the most minimal conditions in Alaska (And of course pay enough corrections officers to live there in the land of ballpark prices for a simple grocery store beer) than it is to house them is pretty good conditions in the lower 48.
Now don't get me wrong, probably at least a third of these SOBs need to be put on a slow and very leaky ship to visit the scenic Marianas Trench, and another third deported immediately back to Mexico with "Shoot on sight" tattooed on their foreheads in case they ever try to come back. Unfortunately, the Supremes wouldn't be on board for that.
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I heard on the radio yesterday that there are over 20,000 illegal aliens housed in California prisons. These criminals are here because the feds refuse to do their job (which they have made clear is their sole responsibility in their lawsuit against SB1070 in AZ) and protect our borders. Now the feds are demanding that because of "overcrowding" (partly because of the 20,000+ illegals locked up) that the rights of law abiding citizens be violated. The best thing that California could do here is tell the feds to go to hell with their release order and to come pick up the thousands of illegals who are their responsibility and have been housed by the state for all these years.
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I think its safe to say a society can be fairly well judged by the state of its prisons.
California? Ya, pretty much ****ed.
Big ****in' deal! They have been deserving this for 20 years! Let the Dems figure it out. They made the place a cesspool, I have no sympathy!
If ya still live in Kalifornica, I have no sympathy for you either!
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Interesting, we have in New Hampshire a multi million dollar prison that is EMPTY, ---Are you listening Sparky???
The State does not have the money to man and care for anyone to be incarcerated within it, but still has to pay big bucks to maintain the empty prison. Google the facts as I am too tired to find a link to this today.
There must be other states with empty prisons that the Feds Will not give a penny to, to put into use but still cost the state to maintain.
Private prisons are interesting, but it is interesting that those with money and influence like that Logan woman are let off with a no room at the Inn and not sent elsewhere where there is a Vacancy sign.
So who are to be released from prison in California, a strange thought here, what would Charles Manson do if he was to be released after all these years fighting to stay in a safe place. Would he be dragged kicking and screaming out the door, thrown into a life where everyone wants to kill him???
Are the prisoners going to be released considered low risk to the public???? Sure that is to be ignored of why they are incarcerated any way.
Perhaps that armored vest will go over big and make the seller a millionare in California, were that to happen to my area I would find a way to turn 3 of the vests into a full body suit, put bars on the windows adopt Pit Bulls and never leave my house.
Why can't we build prisons up in Alaska 200 miles away from civilisation and if the worse of the worse want to make a run for it, no problem, if the bears don't get them the flys will in the day light and the bears or the cold at night.
Holy crap Vesta! Do state borders matter to you at all? Could be y'all ought to be talkin' to NYC if yer lookin' for residents to occupy your horizontal bar motel! Why the hell would ya want to import Mexican riff raff? Seems to me ya could find plenty of takers just a few miles away, rather than across the damn country! What the hell, is yer state flush with cash, or what?
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Big ****in' deal! They have been deserving this for 20 years! Let the Dems figure it out. They made the place a cesspool, I have no sympathy!
If ya still live in Kalifornica, I have no sympathy for you either!
That's what happens when liberalism is able to run amok. Liberalism is alive and in full bloom in Commiefornia.
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"Obama's idea of job creation"...for lawyers and judges.
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EDITORIAL: Deport California’s illegal-alien convicts
Not everyone has the right to be in America
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By THE WASHINGTON TIMES
The Washington Times
7:37 p.m., Tuesday, May 24, 2011
The Supreme Court on Monday endorsed a court order requiring California to cut its prison population by more than 30,000 inmates to improve overall health care.
If the U.S. Supreme Court says California has to create room in its prisons by releasing convicts, the least the federal government can do is send those who are illegal aliens back over the border. The message is simple: If you come to our country and don’t follow the rules, you’re outta here.
On Monday, the Supreme Court ruled in the case of “Brown v. Plata†that overcrowding in California prisons constituted a violation of the Eight Amendment’s ban on cruel and unusual punishment. The court affirmed the judgment of a three-judge federal court that ordered the Golden State to release up to 46,000 of the state’s 140,000 inmates. The 5-4 decision was strongly contested, with dissenting Justice Samuel A. Alito warning, “The majority is gambling with the safety of the people of California.â€
The state could mitigate the public danger posed by released prisoners with a little help from the feds. An estimated 19,000 of California’s convicts are illegal aliens, who cost the state approximately a billion dollars a year to incarcerate. In 2009, then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger suggested deporting illegals as a cost-saving measure. The state argued at the time that “These inmates are the federal government’s responsibility and California taxpayers shouldn’t be paying the bill.†The federal government, however, was not as forthcoming as it might have been, and the plan didn’t meet its potential. Given that the current choice may be between deporting convicted illegals or letting them roam free, the case for deportation is even stronger.
Washington Times Editorial (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/24/deport-californias-illegal-alien-convicts/)
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The federal government, however, was not as forthcoming as it might have been, and the plan didn’t meet its potential. Given that the current choice may be between deporting convicted illegals or letting them roam free, the case for deportation is even stronger.
If California can't send the illegals back to Mexico and the feds won't do it, then maybe California should ship them to Washington DC.
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If California can't send the illegals back to Mexico and the feds won't do it, then maybe California should ship them to Washington DC.
Call them "Freedom Riders" or "The 19,000 Man March on Washington" or "The California Bus Lift"
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Call them "Freedom Riders" or "The 19,000 Man March on Washington" or "The California Bus Lift"
It'd be easier to use them as landfill.
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send em to an island. we got plenty. that's what the brits did. the island is now called Australia
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They've already :censored: it up.
Computer Errors Free Over 1000 California Prisoners
It has been discovered that computer errors led to the mistaken release of hundreds of high-risk California prisoners.
Some 450 high-risk prisoners and over 1,000 state inmates with various offenses were freed as "unsupervised parolees" under a program created in January last year to ease overcrowding.
According to the inspector general, the computer system used in the program doesn't access an inmate's disciplinary record and lacks conviction files for nearly half of California's 16.4 million arrest records, according to LA Times.
Lieu told the Times, if the state can't properly identify which inmates qualify for an unsupervised parole program, "how can the public have confidence they can release 33,000 felons safely?"
According to inspector general spokeswoman Renee Hansen, there was neither an attempt to return any of the mistakenly-released offenders nor have them placed on supervised parole.
http://losangeles.ibtimes.com/articles/152873/20110526/computer-errors-free-over-1000-california-prisoners.htm
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What's wrong with tents? They seem to work in Arizona.
They work here too.