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Title: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Ballygrl on April 27, 2011, 08:42:08 AM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/RepublicanandProud/BC.jpg)

Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Ballygrl on April 27, 2011, 08:47:14 AM
Just curious, mine has a raised stamp on it, this doesn't, ideas?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: BlueStateSaint on April 27, 2011, 08:50:22 AM
Notice how there's a block for "Race of Father" and "Race of Mother," but no block for "Race of Child."  Interesting . . .  :???:
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: NHSparky on April 27, 2011, 08:51:17 AM
Hmmmmm...age 18 at birth.  Was mommy of legal age of consent in Hawaii when Barruh was conceived?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: gurn on April 27, 2011, 09:01:02 AM
We should congratulate the Donald, without whom, this wouldn't have happened.  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: redwhit on April 27, 2011, 09:08:21 AM
We should congratulate the Donald, without whom, this wouldn't have happened.  :cheersmate:

Donald Trump, love him or hate him, is forcing the White House and getting called a carnival barker for his troubles.

Obama just keeps giving soundbites to be used against him in the coming election.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Traveshamockery on April 27, 2011, 09:51:40 AM
Great! 

Now where are those pesky college transcripts? 

Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: lars1701c on April 27, 2011, 10:07:39 AM
Hi-five :)


I dont understand why those werent relased prior to the elections in 08
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: formerlurker on April 27, 2011, 10:09:34 AM
Great! 

Now where are those pesky college transcripts? 



Agreed.   

The Donald should keep pushing.

Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 27, 2011, 10:21:44 AM
Mothers mailing address space........empty.

I guess it's hard to get mail addressed to Some Mud Hut Kenya.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: formerlurker on April 27, 2011, 10:36:23 AM
Mothers mailing address space........empty.

I guess it's hard to get mail addressed to Some Mud Hut Kenya.

I saw that also.  Odd isn't it?   Well we know who the doctor is now, and what hospital.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Eupher on April 27, 2011, 10:45:55 AM
Mothers mailing address space........empty.

I guess it's hard to get mail addressed to Some Mud Hut Kenya.

I think the idea is, the "Street Address" is considered the mailing address, thus the "Mailing Address" field is blank. Often, people choose to get their mail at a PO Box instead of their street address. In such cases, the form would provide a space for people to put down their mailing address separately.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: USNFlyer on April 27, 2011, 11:01:59 AM
OK................. If that's a legit document, then, show me his draft registration. Failing to register is a felony!

Then, let's see all the documentation whereas he received,and he has admitted to this, all the foreign aide funds while in college. Can you say fraud?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Ballygrl on April 27, 2011, 11:03:33 AM
Hi-five :)

I dont understand why those werent relased prior to the elections in 08

Not only were they not released, but why didn't the media go searching for them?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 27, 2011, 11:04:59 AM
A little late.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: gurn on April 27, 2011, 11:28:02 AM
Not only were they not released, but why didn't the media go searching for them?

Exactly right.  :cheersmate:

The MSM has been disgraceful. Remember Fukino telling us, It's impossible to release the long form?

Remember the Hawaii AG Spokesman saying that?

The MSM just stood there slack-jawed and took them at their word.

And now...duh! It's released.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 27, 2011, 11:43:21 AM
Where's the Notary Stamp?

Mine has one and my mothers address....RFD#3
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: FreeBorn on April 27, 2011, 11:57:07 AM
Hi-five :)


I dont understand why those werent relased prior to the elections in 08
Because it hadn't been fabricated yet.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 27, 2011, 12:06:53 PM
If you look closely, there are some faint numbers scribbled in some of the boxes on the face of said document....is that  Obama's affirmative action scores for college admittance?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: vesta111 on April 27, 2011, 12:33:12 PM
If you look closely, there are some faint numbers scribbled in some of the boxes on the face of said document....is that  Obama's affirmative action scores for college admittance?

Suspicious minds want to know.

I am in the process of going through years of documents on my sons birth 9 years later in Hawaii, so far,nothing but I have it and it will turn up.

There is someting odd here, something I cannot put my finger on.

Perhaps it is the usual place of residence, this can mean 100 things.  People up here head south in the winter but use their address at the time the child is born to the State they were born in. What the heck does Usual place of residence actually mean ?????

Nit picking here but something just ain't right.   


Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Eupher on April 27, 2011, 12:36:08 PM
Suspicious minds want to know.

...A lot of useless blather snipped....

Nit picking here but something just ain't right.   


Yeah. Your meds. It's been awhile.

Take them.

After they kick in, the insanity will slow down -- even for you.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: micmac on April 27, 2011, 12:49:00 PM
My son was born at Kapiolani hospital in 1995.  His says "Certification of Live Birth" while Obama's says "Certificate of Live Birth".
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: thundley4 on April 27, 2011, 12:51:46 PM
Isn't this the same thing that has been floated by the left for some time now?  I've seen this same form online quite a while ago.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Chris_ on April 27, 2011, 12:53:52 PM
That looks like the same COLB that was released by the governor previously.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Gina on April 27, 2011, 01:11:14 PM
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In a stunning announcement that took even political insiders by surprise, President Barack Obama revealed today that he ran for President of Kenya in 2005 but was disqualified when a birth certificate surfaced showing he was born in the United States.

At a press conference at the White House, Mr. Obama spoke for the first time about his little-known unsuccessful foray into Kenyan politics: “Like every American boy or girl, I grew up with the dream of someday becoming President of Kenya.”

But soon after he entered the race, political opponents began spreading rumors that he was not “a real Kenyan,” the President said, and foiled his bid by disseminating copies of his authentic American birth certificate.

“I guess I didn’t look into the rules closely enough before I ran,” the President admitted. “I got caught up in the excitement of being President of Kenya and I guess I just got carried away.”

Lisimba Ogongo, a Nairobi talk radio host who spearheaded the effort to unearth Mr. Obama’s U.S. birth certificate, confirmed Mr. Obama’s version of events today.

“I felt strongly that the people of Kenya deserved the truth,” Mr. Ogongo said. “We were not about to elect a President of Kenya who was really a secret Hawaiian.”

Elsewhere, Donald Trump found himself under renewed pressure to produce all of his authentic marriage certificates, believed to number in the thousands.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: DefiantSix on April 27, 2011, 01:18:47 PM
Great! 

Now where are those pesky college transcripts? 



Not to mention that Indonesian passport that permitted him to be indoctrinated in radical, America-hating Islam at the madrassas.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: WARBOUND on April 27, 2011, 01:23:32 PM
The Birther issue is a trap for the right. The bulk of the American people would never dream that the people who put Obama in power are capable of fabricating this document. i know better, that birth certificate is not worth the paper its printed on.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: thelaughingman on April 27, 2011, 01:39:14 PM
"Race of Father: African."

Huh?  Was "African" even in use as a racial designation back then?  I would think "black" or even "negro."
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: dandi on April 27, 2011, 02:30:47 PM
Have any of you read some of the comments on The Smoking Gun article about this?   :o
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Karin on April 27, 2011, 02:50:20 PM
From the Smoking Gun comments:

Quote
HE was not born ( or named at birth Barack Husein Obama, ) was he not Barry Soetoro first? Then Barack later in life

Is that true?   I can't keep all his aliases straight.

Quote
FAKE. The term "African" for race was not used on official Government Docs until 1997. It should be Ne gro or Colored.
 

Lots of comments about "layering" which is a Photoshop expert's term.  Interesting.   
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Chris_ on April 27, 2011, 02:53:06 PM
Lots of comments about "layering" which is a Photoshop expert's term.  Interesting.   
That was the same complaint about the COLB that was released in 2008.  Lots of fakery.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Some of the commenters linked to pictures, but I can't bring them up here.  I can check when I get home or I can duplicate what they're talking about and post it as an animated GIF.

Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: rich_t on April 27, 2011, 02:56:50 PM
That was the same complaint about the COLB that was released in 2008.  Lots of fakery.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Some of the commenters linked to pictures, but I can't bring them up here.  I can check when I get home or I can duplicate what they're talking about and post it as an animated GIF.



Please do that Chris.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Eupher on April 27, 2011, 02:58:10 PM
I bleeve that the name "Barry Soetoro" came from his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, while the young Imam-to-be was living in Indonesia in the late Sixties as a practicing Muslim youngster (who never went into a mosque).

Barry's mommy divorced Barry's daddy in 1964.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: dandi on April 27, 2011, 02:58:56 PM
Lots of comments about "layering" which is a Photoshop expert's term.  Interesting.   

Link to an image of the "layered" BC.

http://bryankeithnixon.com/?p=103

This is the one Drudge has linked.

Interesting, indeed....
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 27, 2011, 02:59:20 PM
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HE was not born ( or named at birth Barack Husein Obama, ) was he not Barry Soetoro first? Then Barack later in life

This is what I thought as well.  I thought he went to school in Kenya under the name of Barry Soetoro.  So my question really is, what was his BIRTH name?  Was it Barack Hussein Obama or was it Barry Soetoro?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Eupher on April 27, 2011, 03:02:36 PM
This is what I thought as well.  I thought he went to school in Kenya under the name of Barry Soetoro.  So my question really is, what was his BIRTH name?  Was it Barack Hussein Obama or was it Barry Soetoro?

His birth name had to have been Barack Hussein Obama, because his mother didn't even KNOW Lolo Soetoro until after she divorced Barry's daddy in 1964.

Oh wait..... :rotf:
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: cavegal on April 27, 2011, 03:12:06 PM
Why today? Why this day to release this????? I am a bit surprised they did this now. I expected it more towards Nov 2012.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Gina on April 27, 2011, 03:17:27 PM
Why today? Why this day to release this????? I am a bit surprised they did this now. I expected it more towards Nov 2012.

I think he made a mistake releasing it, now all of his hidden shit will be asked for and there is now no reason to deny showing it or it will make him look even more shady if that is possible :mental:
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 27, 2011, 03:17:31 PM
Why today? Why this day to release this????? I am a bit surprised they did this now. I expected it more towards Nov 2012.

Just a distraction.  Everyone is looking right, but there is something going on to the left.  King Obama even gave a speech about releasing his birth certificate.  ::)
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Eupher on April 27, 2011, 03:19:35 PM
Why today? Why this day to release this????? I am a bit surprised they did this now. I expected it more towards Nov 2012.

Defuze the Donald.

Which, when you think about it, is stupid. As long as the Birther issue is alive and well, it detracts from some of the really egregious shit that Lord Barry does or doesn't do.

Like the love affair with Syria, for example. Barry hasn't learned that Assad is not our butt-buddy. He's a ****ing terrorist dressed in a suit who swaps spit with I'madinnerjacket, the sawed-off little Persian ****head who continues to run his centrifuges to build atom bombs.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Wayne on April 27, 2011, 03:28:04 PM
  And a high five to Bill and Hillary for keeping the secret all these years.. She had to vet him so .... High five Hil.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on April 27, 2011, 03:29:30 PM
Why today? Why this day to release this????? I am a bit surprised they did this now. I expected it more towards Nov 2012.
Gas at $4 a gallon, involved in 3 wars, losing support for his budget proposals, the debt crisis, unemployment and his public union pals losing ground everywhere, he needed what he thought was going to be a PR win and push those items off the front pages and off the nightly news. I do not know if it will work but those other issues are of greater concern to the American people than his COLB.

Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: cavegal on April 27, 2011, 03:30:38 PM
Defuze the Donald.

Which, when you think about it, is stupid. As long as the Birther issue is alive and well, it detracts from some of the really egregious shit that Lord Barry does or doesn't do.

Like the love affair with Syria, for example. Barry hasn't learned that Assad is not our butt-buddy. He's a ****ing terrorist dressed in a suit who swaps spit with I'madinnerjacket, the sawed-off little Persian ****head who continues to run his centrifuges to build atom bombs.
Yes I thought of that. I just thought they would keep this alive a bit longer. I guess the polling was starting to go against them?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: namvet on April 27, 2011, 03:46:59 PM
he's lied to us all along. now he wants us to buy this. why should we???
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: thelaughingman on April 27, 2011, 04:03:00 PM
Any comments on the purported birth certificate giving the hospital a name that wouldn't be coined until 1978?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: cavegal on April 27, 2011, 04:07:50 PM
he's lied to us all along. now he wants us to buy this. why should we???
True! 
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: thelaughingman on April 27, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Hmm...

http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx

Quote
This is the story of two hospitals: Kauikeolani Children's Hospital and Kapi‘olani Maternity Home.

Concerned about the welfare of Hawaii's mothers, Queen Kapi‘olani held luau and bazaars to raise the $8,000 needed to open Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1890. She endowed her legacy with “Kulia i ka nu‘u” or “Strive for the highest.”

In 1908, Albert and Emma Kauikeolani Wilcox donated $50,000 to start a children's hospital. The community, concerned that two of every seven infants in Hawai‘i did not live to see their first birthday, rallied to match the Wilcox's gift. A year later, Kauikeolani Children's Hospital opened.

The two hospitals joined in 1978 to become Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: cavegal on April 27, 2011, 04:21:29 PM
Hmm...

http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx

Ooh oh!
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Janice on April 27, 2011, 04:26:37 PM
Ive downloaded the pdf. It does appear that it is made of different elements (layers). Among other things the supposed stamped dates are separate and movable.

And the name. Whats up with that? Was he at some point Barry Soetoro or was he not? If he changed his name, when did he change it back? And since when do you get named the "II" before a "III" is born?

This has got more holes than swiss cheese.

 :juggle:
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on April 27, 2011, 04:26:55 PM
What a productive day for 0bama!  Released the B.C., then whisked off to carry on important Presidential business.

Oh wait, no he didn't....he went back home to Chicago to tape an episode with Oprah. :thatsright:
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: thelaughingman on April 27, 2011, 04:28:04 PM
Here's something else I happened across on YouTube.  Anyone can do this.  Open the pdf file on the White House website, highlight the five-digit number on the upper right, and then zoom in.  You'll notice something very odd.  Here's a screen shot:

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2352/birthpdf.jpg)

Why does that last "1" look like that compared to the other four digits?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Mike220 on April 27, 2011, 04:47:51 PM
And since when do you get named the "II" before a "III" is born?

When you're named after your dad, but "there's no way in hell he wanted a 'Junior'." Had a shipmate that was a "II" for that very reason.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: RightCoast on April 27, 2011, 04:56:52 PM
There are obviously some real problems with this new document, I think the real reason they put it out is they can now shout "lalalalalalalalalala" every time the issue is raised from here on out. 
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: formerlurker on April 27, 2011, 04:59:41 PM
Hmm...

http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx


Nice find.   H5.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 27, 2011, 05:09:23 PM
Hmm...

http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx


Now all we need are some "real" birth certicates of that time in the same hospital.

And yes it's probably fake....Obama always hires the most incompetent of people for any job.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Gina on April 27, 2011, 05:19:48 PM
Now all we need are some "real" birth certicates of that time in the same hospital.

And yes it's probably fake....Obama always hires the most incompetent of people for any job.

just so I am getting this since I am about to kill my kids for not letting me play on the net but is that posting of the hospital website because it didn't become the maternity hospital until 1978?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 27, 2011, 05:25:39 PM
just so I am getting this since I am about to kill my kids for not letting me play on the net but is that posting of the hospital website because it didn't become the maternity hospital until 1978?

Sounds to me like it was 2 seperate hospitals, niether of which were named what's on his BC, until 1978.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: formerlurker on April 27, 2011, 05:36:46 PM
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PRESIDENT OBAMA: Can I just say? I was there, so I knew -- that -- I knew I had been born. I remembered it.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/04/27/obama_jokes_with_oprah_about_birth_i_remembered_it.html

Well if he remembered it then there is nothing more to see here -- why didn't he just say so years ago? 

Gosh he is so swell.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: namvet on April 27, 2011, 05:38:03 PM
I'd like to believe him but I just can't. this might be an attempt to shut up the birthers. for me its liar liar pants on fire  :fuelfire:
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 27, 2011, 05:42:01 PM
Select one

1-Old but original Fake BC.

2-New But Fake BC.

3-The Next BC But Fake.

4-His real BC was written on a goat skin.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: DefiantSix on April 27, 2011, 05:45:24 PM
Select one

1-Old but original Fake BC.

2-New But Fake BC.

3-The Next BC But Fake.

4-His real BC was written on a goat skin.

Yes.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Gina on April 27, 2011, 05:48:37 PM
this guy was just on the news talking to katie couric about trump asking for the college records to see if obama's grades were good enough for harvard and he said and I quote "We all know asking if his grades were good enough is just code for racism"  and it startssssssssssssssss........

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_r1AxIJszWSA/SiICUPFy1HI/AAAAAAAAAlE/4KgrluYw_Mo/s400/bob_schieffer.jpg)
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: DefiantSix on April 27, 2011, 05:50:23 PM
Hell, it's damned near to the point that not only would we need to see the original of the long form, from the state archive in Hawaii, but documentation of chain of custody on the document, just to know how many times Big Brotha's cronies have had to monkey with the damned thing.

Oops.  Did I say, 'Monkey'?  Was that waissis of me?!?!  :lmao:

(http://images.onset.freedom.com/gaston/ljtjjj-ljtjfdljrngyb78782974z120110416151916000gg5ums882.jpg)
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: namvet on April 27, 2011, 05:52:11 PM
Select one

1-Old but original Fake BC.

2-New But Fake BC.

3-The Next BC But Fake.

4-His real BC was written on a goat skin.

4.............but someone ate the goat
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Chris_ on April 27, 2011, 06:15:19 PM
Incredible... you don't even have to know what the hell you're doing to see the different layers in this "copy".

1. Save the PDF from the White House link and open.
2. Highlight and copy the main part of the PDF file.
3. Paste the results into Microsoft Paint and see for yourself.

Oh, and this document was "created" using Mac OSX 10.6.7 as it clearly says in the file properties.  Why such a fancy computer to create a simple PDF?

I opened it in Photoshop and don't see any separate layers like you would normally create in PS, but its obvious that there's something flawed about this file.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: namvet on April 27, 2011, 06:33:32 PM
looks like he's been moving it around to

Obama Birth Certificate Moved to More Secure Location Months Ago

More than a month before Donald Trump began his media blitzkrieg over the issue of President Obama's birth certificate, the document was quietly moved to a more secure location within a dual combination-key lock safe inside the state's health department vault.

The certificate was moved there by Alvin Onaka, Hawaii's State Registrar, in response to what had already become an increasing number of media requests by FoxNews.com and others, according to sources.

FOX (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-moved-secure-location-months-ago/)

this stinks like a whore house at low tide
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 27, 2011, 06:58:06 PM
Select one

1-Old but original Fake BC.

2-New But Fake BC.

3-The Next BC But Fake.

4-His real BC was written on a goat skin.

Potato
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 27, 2011, 07:06:42 PM
Will someone with better computer skills than I please check this out...apparently you can have information changed on your birth certificate in Hawaii

http://obamarecords.com/?page_id=207

Hawaii changed obama’s “birth certificate” pursuant to HS 338-17.7 (5)

Haw. Rev. Stat. § 338-17.7 : Hawaii Statutes – Section 338-17.7: Establishment of new certificates of birth, when.

(5) Upon request of a law enforcement agency certifying that a new birth certificate showing different information would provide for the safety of the birth registrant; provided that the new birth certificate shall contain information requested by the law enforcement agency, shall be assigned a new number and filed accordingly, and shall not substitute for the birth registrant’s original birth certificate, which shall remain in place.

(b) When a new certificate of birth is established under this section, it shall be substituted for the original certificate of birth. Thereafter, the original certificate and the evidence supporting the preparation of the new certificate shall be sealed and filed. Such sealed document shall be opened only by an order of a court of record. [L 1973, c 39, §1; am L 1975, c 66, §2(3); am L 1979, c 130, §1 and c 203, §1; am L 1982, c 4, §1; am L 1983, c 65, §1; am L 1984, c 167, §1; am L 1993, c 131, §2] HS 338-17.7 (5)

Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Gina on April 27, 2011, 07:24:01 PM
Here's something else I happened across on YouTube.  Anyone can do this.  Open the pdf file on the White House website, highlight the five-digit number on the upper right, and then zoom in.  You'll notice something very odd.  Here's a screen shot:

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2352/birthpdf.jpg)

Why does that last "1" look like that compared to the other four digits?

I just asked a professional about that image above and she said this

Quote
No problem. Actually, if you open the PDF up in Adobe Acrobat you can zoom in to 800% or 1600% and see the same thing.

To answer your question, yes, I do see this. There are a handful of characters in the document that display in this seemingly odd way. The original birth cert from 50 yrs ago was written with a type writer (obviously), and this doc was at some point scanned for permanent archiving. The characters where the type key struck the paper good and hard resulted in a jaggy letter (as the ones on the left of your image) when it was scanned -- basically, the scanning software gave those pixels a value of 100% color. For the few letters which look pixelated ("anti-aliased"), I think the type writer key didn't strike as hard, so the letter was a bit lighter. The scanning software didn't give this a value of 100% color, and instead tried to smooth it making it look all pixelated. If you notice, the pencil marks look similiar, which makes sense since pencil is pretty light.

Anyway, that's my interpretation looking at the image. I can see why someone would think it suspect, but based on my years of experience with scanners it just looks like a run of the mill, low resolution scan.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: thundley4 on April 27, 2011, 07:34:01 PM
Will someone with better computer skills than I please check this out...apparently you can have information changed on your birth certificate in Hawaii

http://obamarecords.com/?page_id=207

Hawaii changed obama’s “birth certificate” pursuant to HS 338-17.7 (5)

Haw. Rev. Stat. § 338-17.7 : Hawaii Statutes – Section 338-17.7: Establishment of new certificates of birth, when.

(5) Upon request of a law enforcement agency certifying that a new birth certificate showing different information would provide for the safety of the birth registrant; provided that the new birth certificate shall contain information requested by the law enforcement agency, shall be assigned a new number and filed accordingly, and shall not substitute for the birth registrant’s original birth certificate, which shall remain in place.

(b) When a new certificate of birth is established under this section, it shall be substituted for the original certificate of birth. Thereafter, the original certificate and the evidence supporting the preparation of the new certificate shall be sealed and filed. Such sealed document shall be opened only by an order of a court of record. [L 1973, c 39, §1; am L 1975, c 66, §2(3); am L 1979, c 130, §1 and c 203, §1; am L 1982, c 4, §1; am L 1983, c 65, §1; am L 1984, c 167, §1; am L 1993, c 131, §2] HS 338-17.7 (5)



I don't know about Hawaii, but I know Illinois allows for Birth Certificates to be changed. When I joined the Navy, I had a copy of mine and it said "baby boy" in place of a name, because I wasn't named for a couple of days.  However, I went to get another copy last year and it now had my full name on it.

I asked the clerk about it and she did a quick search and said that it had been changed at the request of the D.O.D. in 1980, the year I joined the Navy. 
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Chris_ on April 27, 2011, 07:37:40 PM
I just asked a professional about that image above and she said this

It does look like a crappy scan, but that doesn't explain why the PDF offered by the White House has multiple layers with the doctor and parents signatures being separate from the background layer that makes up most of the birth certificate.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: FreeBorn on April 27, 2011, 07:51:46 PM
I find it remarkable that this document was trotted out now. This could have been done at any point over the past three years, going back to the beginning of the '08 campaign.

But no, instead he spent millions out of his own pocket to bury this deeper than an offshore oil well. NOT the actions of an honest man, especially one who espouses "transparency".

Timing is everything in show business and politics. I feel it is no coincidence that we are given this now, on the eve of the royal wedding. Once the media circus in London kicks into high gear this birth certificate thing will be gone like a fart in the wind.

Anyone else catch Sawyer and Stephanopolis tonight in their delivery of today's political activism journalism?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: formerlurker on April 27, 2011, 08:03:42 PM
Quote
PDF Layers in Obama’s Birth Certificate
April 27, 2011 2:35 P.M.
By Nathan Goulding   
We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.

The PDF is composed of multiple images. That’s correct. Using a photo editor or PDF viewer of your choice, you can extract this image data, view it, hide it, etc. But these layers, as they’re being called, aren’t layers in the traditional photo-editing sense of the word. They are, quite literally, pieces of image data that have been positioned in a PDF container. They appear as text but also contain glyphs, dots, lines, boxes, squiggles, and random garbage. They’re not combined or merged in any way. Quite simply, they look like they were created programmatically, not by a human.

What’s plausible is that somewhere along the way — from the scanning device to the PDF-creation software, both of which can perform OCR (optical character recognition) — these partial/pseudo-text images were created and saved. What’s not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obama’s birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used. It’s likely that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner. Let’s leave it at that.

UPDATE: I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: true_blood on April 27, 2011, 08:20:40 PM
I love it!!!
Trump - 1, the imposter - 0. :-)
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: RightCoast on April 27, 2011, 08:21:32 PM
OK so he released the scanned image, where is the real document and when does trump get to see it?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Chris_ on April 27, 2011, 08:33:34 PM
Someone claimed that the BC was "cleaned up" after being copied from a negative

Here is a scaled-down file I put together showing the differences...
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/birthcertificatelayers3_small.gif)

And the seizure-inducing one (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/birthcertificatelayers2_small.gif) just for fun.

Here are larger copies of the original (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/birthcertificate_copy.jpg), that mysterious layer (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/birthcertificate_layer.jpg), and a negative of that layer (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/birthcertificate_negative.jpg).
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: thelaughingman on April 27, 2011, 09:42:51 PM
Quote
What’s not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obama’s birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used. It’s likely that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner.

*cough (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memogate)*

So why is it a "laughably rookie mistake" to export layers to Photoshop, but not forgetting to turn off the OCR setting?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Chris_ on April 27, 2011, 09:48:40 PM
This entire administration is full of laughable rookies... why would things be any different this time?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Ballygrl on April 27, 2011, 09:54:19 PM
So what's your opinion on this Chris?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: RightCoast on April 27, 2011, 10:02:07 PM
It is obviously not the original document, what is the point of putting out a copy and having it reported as if it is the real deal? This just gives him the ability, during the campaign, of saying that the BC is out there for everybody to see. He can then continue to piss on the Constitution by not really proving anything.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: RightCoast on April 27, 2011, 10:17:46 PM
Quote
    Thank you for voting!
    Yes, I didn't believe it before, but I'm now convinced he's American-born 4.09%
     
    No, I already thought he was American-born so this doesn't change my mind 31.31%
     
    Not really, I wasn't really sure what to believe before and still don't 22%
     
    Nothing the president can do will make me believe he's eligible to be president 42.6%

FauxNews.com poll (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/index.html)
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Chris_ on April 27, 2011, 10:25:45 PM
My opinion?  I think he was born in Hawaii like he says but it wouldn't surprise me the least little bit to be wrong.  My problem with this, like everything else he does, he does a botched weak-assed job of it any reasonable person would be embarrassed by.

Why didn't he do this during the campaign and be done with it?  Even now, he does a pitiful job of handling the situation by releasing a shitty PDF copy.  Maybe it did come from a microfiche/negative of the original document... it would explain the edges that show up at the side of the page.  Why couldn't they simply release the raw image of the certified birth certificate?  Why the vanity and attempt to clean it up? 

I suppose it will take Donald Trump calling him out to get copies of his school records as well.  You know, those things that every other Presidential candidate releases as a matter of course.  As useless as he is, he was probably just as pathetic in school and wants to hide that as well.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Revolution on April 28, 2011, 02:19:46 AM
Throughout this whole thread, I haven't seen it, so I'll be the first to say it.: I of course, want to see the real deal. This new "BC" is obviously BS. However, I would also like to see Barry's mommy's passpart at the time she squeezed him out of her stink-box if that is at all possible. Would be quite telling.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Janice on April 28, 2011, 03:11:31 AM
Also ... dont they change the BC whenever your adopted? Just like name changes when you go into the military?

Heres the Smoking Gun article for anyone curious ...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/barack-obama/birth-obama-certer-movement-098513?cid=free_tout
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: gurn on April 28, 2011, 03:23:34 AM
The TSG article is making fun of people who had legitimate questions about Imam Barack's background.

Personally, I'm all for declaring victory & moving on to his Social Security Numbers.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Janice on April 28, 2011, 05:01:48 AM
Were not goin to get anything else from him. Not gonna happen.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: vesta111 on April 28, 2011, 07:17:49 AM
Were not goin to get anything else from him. Not gonna happen.

This whole thing is so ****ed up,  who is to say that we will ever know the truth.

Lets see, the 18 year old pregnant girl married a man named Obama as she was pregnant and left the country to go somewhere, Kenya, Indonesia, and at the last minute came home to have the baby.

I would like to see people looking into any relationship of Father Obama and the Step Father before all this happend.

Did the family's know each other, had the two men somehow crossed paths with each other in the past.

Is all this a ruse to keep us looking  on a little problem and not notice what and how this man is doing to CHANGE America.  Perhaps he has had this up his sleeve all the time, raw meat to throw at the public and while we are feasting like wolves he is building traps for us .Some of the stuff reported about the state of affairs in Hawaii are a bit odd.     

It is said that in 1989 the state no longer sent out long forms of the birth certificate.  Strange My son requested one in 1990 as I had lost the original and received one. Full information down to birth weight.

Come to think about it the woman who came to my bedside to fill in the certificate was very strict when I named my son and put the 111 after his name.    " OH she said, the child is a Junior." No I said he is a third, his grandfather has the same name as his son and now we have a 3rd in line.  This woman was so picky she even asked me if I knew the grandfather and did my husbands birth certificate have him down as a Junior.

The lady in the next bed was laughing when the woman finally left,  she  a lovely girl my age tells me     "Honey, if you want you want to name your baby King Henry the V111 That is your right."

Reason I remember all this is as the boy grew I would have to tell him that he was not King Henry

Mind you this at the time State Side people were naming their kids Starlight and Moon Unite.

Another fact the mother left Hawaii with infant 2 weeks after giving birth to head for Seattle the very city her next husband lived in. Her husband came to America and headed for Harvard a Continent away from his wife and new born son.

 Why would a natural father, a Muslim at that wait for years and years to meet his son just once. Where was his father when he was in Kenya as a kid. Why is it he is only close with the sister born to his mom and none of the other family born to his dad????

Too many questions, and really get involved with genealogy at this point.  Time to look beyond this crap as we feast on the raw meat thrown to us, someone needs to be looking into the forest for other predatory things that come to eat US.   His surporters dont give a flying fig if he was born on the MOON.

We are being scammed, and Trump smells it and will now jump on the rebuilding of America.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Janice on April 28, 2011, 07:29:47 AM
(http://i53.tinypic.com/8xknsp.jpg)

Well, I guess its settled now ...
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: namvet on April 28, 2011, 07:54:04 AM
he could have done this to embarrass Trump or show him up. will Trump show his financial records now???

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzu-ZGwvLKs[/youtube]

wondered when the cartoons would popup

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3d2ZN175jxM/TblRo4hjwrI/AAAAAAAAvQI/2IfWrwJVzjM/s1600/theo1.jpg)



Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Boudicca on April 28, 2011, 08:52:52 AM
I find it remarkable that this document was trotted out now. This could have been done at any point over the past three years, going back to the beginning of the '08 campaign.

But no, instead he spent millions out of his own pocket to bury this deeper than an offshore oil well. NOT the actions of an honest man, especially one who espouses "transparency".
Timing is everything in show business and politics. I feel it is no coincidence that we are given this now, on the eve of the royal wedding. Once the media circus in London kicks into high gear this birth certificate thing will be gone like a fart in the wind.

Anyone else catch Sawyer and Stephanopolis tonight in their delivery of today's political activism journalism?

That, in a nutshell, is why I will never believe this guy is for real an American born citizen.  Now, if he wants to pretend he was born here and this is his legit b.c. :lmao:let him EXPLAIN why he spent millions fighting to produce it AND where did those millions come from?  Soros, anyone?
My hubby said the guys in his office think he fought producing the b.c. because they were scrambling to produce a believable fake.  Sounds about right to me.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: gurn on April 28, 2011, 09:33:00 AM
That, in a nutshell, is why I will never believe this guy is for real an American born citizen.  Now, if he wants to pretend he was born here and this is his legit b.c. :lmao:let him EXPLAIN why he spent millions fighting to produce it AND where did those millions come from?  Soros, anyone?
My hubby said the guys in his office think he fought producing the b.c. because they were scrambling to produce a believable fake.  Sounds about right to me.


[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypAU28t5Ya0[/youtube]
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Gina on April 28, 2011, 02:14:21 PM
here's that guy that I told yall about yesterday saying Trump is racist and asking for obama's grades is code for racism


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1381527/Donald-Trump-racist-Bob-Schieffer-attacks-Apprentice-host.html
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Eupher on April 28, 2011, 02:31:15 PM
Schieffer - old, tired, lame, and nothing but a mouthpiece for the administration.

He lobs softballs and weak attempts to try and pin his guests down on Face the Nation, but he winds up looking a little baffled by the time he cuts for the last commercial.

Then he comes back on and does an even MORE lame op-ed that's usually incoherent.

Schieffer is no longer relevant. He's just a classic liberal tied to the Eddie Murrow mantra.   :whatever:
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: namvet on April 28, 2011, 03:26:31 PM
here's that guy that I told yall about yesterday saying Trump is racist and asking for obama's grades is code for racism


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1381527/Donald-Trump-racist-Bob-Schieffer-attacks-Apprentice-host.html

that's the UK liberal online. even they don't like it
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: thundley4 on April 28, 2011, 03:43:02 PM
that's the UK liberal online. even they don't like it

The Daily Mail may be liberal but they carry stories before the MSM does here and they even beat Fox News in a lot of cases.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: namvet on April 28, 2011, 03:47:07 PM
The Daily Mail may be liberal but they carry stories before the MSM does here and they even beat Fox News in a lot of cases.

just saying. the UK and EU ****tard libs don't buy it. they really trash it
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 28, 2011, 05:21:48 PM
Now about those grades...you ain't never gonna see'em.

They are locked up in the liberal bastions Obama attended. You may see thousands of pages of secret U.S. documents on the web, you may see secret recordings leaked, papers stuffed in underwear and disappeared but you'll never see what the liberals don't want you to see....namely, The One's grades.

If he were republican, those grades would have been out before he announced he was running....and if they were less than perfect, he would be to stupid to be president.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: namvet on April 28, 2011, 05:30:27 PM
Now about those grades...you ain't never gonna see'em.

They are locked up in the liberal bastions Obama attended. You may see thousands of pages of secret U.S. documents on the web, you may see secret recordings leaked, papers stuffed in underwear and disappeared but you'll never see what the liberals don't want you to see....namely, The One's grades.

If he were republican, those grades would have been out before he announced he was running....and if they were less than perfect, he would be to stupid to be president.

I hope after 2012 we never see this shit for brains again !!!!
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Revolution on April 28, 2011, 05:36:11 PM
(http://i53.tinypic.com/8xknsp.jpg)

Well, I guess its settled now ...

Awesome. Hi5 for taht hearty belly laugh.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: gurn on April 28, 2011, 06:40:47 PM
Quote
Vesta: "..the 18 year old pregnant girl married a man named Obama as she was pregnant and left the country to go somewhere, Kenya, Indonesia, and at the last minute came home to have the baby..."

Do we know she left the country while pregnant? I've never found that information. I haven't read his first
autobiography. But that's one thing I was looking for. Is there any record of his Mom even going to Kenya?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: DefiantSix on April 28, 2011, 07:39:05 PM
I hope after 2012 we never see this shit for brains again !!!!

Best forget it:  The Asshat in Chief has been following Cap'n Peanut's playbook damned near to the letter since he first stepped into the Oval Orifice.  We can't seem to get Habitat For Humanity to nail Jimmuh's feet to a roof somewhere, so you can bet your ass we're gonna have to deal with Don Barry "Da Bumbler" Soetoro until the rest of the Chicago mobs decide it's time for him to sleep wit' da fishes.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: thelaughingman on April 29, 2011, 09:48:51 AM
Question: why was it okay for conservatives to question the Texas Air National Guard memo about President Bush, but people, including many conservatives, get their panties in a twist when questions are asked about the oddities with this PDF file?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Eupher on April 29, 2011, 09:55:19 AM
Question: why was it okay for conservatives to question the Texas Air National Guard memo about President Bush, but people, including many conservatives, get their panties in a twist when questions are asked about the oddities with this PDF file?

Well, the Texas ANG memo was a no-brainer. The absolute idiots that put that thing together and tried to pass it off as a document written in 1973 completely forgot that proportional fonts weren't even INVENTED for the typewritten memo of the time.

And then Dan Rather pimped the damn thing as being authentic.

Just the sheer amount of stupidity made it acceptable back then to challenge the ANG memo.

Here, with Barry's doc, we've got a prezzydent who knuckled under to challenges and strutted his shit.

Surely Barry's not so stupid as to actually think that people believe him and what he says......

.....or is he?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Bertram on April 29, 2011, 07:00:18 PM
Do presidents usually make their birth certificates public?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Janice on April 29, 2011, 07:27:34 PM
Do presidents usually make their birth certificates public?

Do presidents usually spend about $2M to hide their birth certificate?
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: DefiantSix on April 29, 2011, 08:12:40 PM
Do presidents usually make their birth certificates public?

They do when there is conflicting statements affecting their eligibility coming out of their own mouths.

John McCain was required to show his BC in order to shut you libtards, because he was born on a Naval Base in Panama.  John, RINO cocksucker that he is, at least did the right thing in nipping that argument in the bud early.

Hell, it probably was absolutely the wrong move politically, because it gave credence to the argument that the leftists had brought up to try to eliminate him, but he showed undeniably that he was constitutionally qualified for the position he was applying for.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Chris_ on April 29, 2011, 09:12:45 PM
Hey, I can produce a birth certificate and put it on the internet too.  Is it real or is it Memorex?

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/obamabirthcertificate.jpg)

Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: dandi on April 29, 2011, 10:52:25 PM
Hey, I can produce a birth certificate and put it on the internet too.  Is it real or is it Memorex?

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/obamabirthcertificate.jpg)



That's pretty good, Chris, and looks more authentic than what hussein dropped on us.

 :lmao:
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Darth Claymore on May 01, 2011, 01:20:19 PM
That's what happens when you use USPS instead of FedEx. It takes 3 years for documents to get from Honalulu to D.C.
 :whistling:
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Ballygrl on May 01, 2011, 01:38:54 PM
That's what happens when you use USPS instead of FedEx. It takes 3 years for documents to get from Honalulu to D.C.
:whistling:

:lmao:
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: true_blood on May 02, 2011, 07:44:56 PM
(http://i53.tinypic.com/8xknsp.jpg)
Well, I guess its settled now ...
That is epic Janice. H5 given. :-)
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Janice on May 11, 2011, 05:06:00 AM
The United States Always Questioned Obama Citizenship (http://www.creators.com/conservative/joseph-farah.html)

Remember all those talking heads for the last two years who suggested it was crazy to question Barack Obama's citizenship? Well, it turns out the U.S. government was never clear about Obama's citizenship — not from the day he was born.

The first official citizenship inquiry dates back to 1966 when he was just 5 years old — when Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was attempting to get a waiver so her second husband, Indonesian citizen Lolo Soetoro, could return after his visa expired. >>>

Ultimately, the U.S. determined Obama was a citizen due to his birth in Hawaii. But that was before the child moved in 1967 to Indonesia with his mother and Soetoro, who, according to Maya Soetoro, Obama's half-sister, adopted the child. Hawaii has no record of that adoption, which would have resulted in an amended birth certificate. Divorce documents from 1980 show Obama as the son of Dunham and Soetoro.

WND has not been able to find any adoption records in Hawaii. This is significant because adoption changes everything. If the adoption took place, it should have resulted in an amended or completely new birth certificate. That change is not noted in the document released by the White House.

Further, in 2008, the Associated Press published a photograph of Obama's school registration papers in Indonesia listing his religion as Muslim and his citizenship as Indonesian.

All of this history is extremely relevant to the question of Obama's natural born citizenship and constitutional eligibility for the presidency — facts lost on all of the major media over the last three years.

Obama may have been born with U.S. citizenship, if indeed he was actually born in the U.S., but he was also born with Kenyan-United Kingdom citizenship and later had Indonesian citizenship.

The Founding Fathers understood natural born citizenship to be one without divided loyalties. It had less to do with the actual birthplace. But new questions are arising about the legitimacy of the Hawaiian birth certificate released by the White House, and the details of Obama's birth are still shrouded in mystery. It's hardly the settled matter that the White House pretends.

Also of interest for investigators are his sealed school, college and university records that might reveal more details of his changing citizenship status. >>>

<<< More >>>

In other words, the "birth certificate" raises more questions than it answers. And it does not satisfy the key question: Is Obama indeed a natural born citizen and eligible to be president of the United States?

=========================================

So WHO is behind the curtain? Lord Stinky has proven himself too incompetent and thin-skinned to manufacture and implement this fraud with just SEIU and Acorn.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: gurn on May 11, 2011, 08:39:32 AM
I read the WND article.

The issue of divided loyalties in immigration law, is taken care of by an oath.
For example, after passing the Naturalization test, applicants have to take an oath.

The US views that as a renunciation of loyalty to any other country.
it.

And I have looked. I can find nothing in the law or the Constitution that disallows a dual citizen
from being sworn in as President. If anyone can find something let me know. Based on what I read,
dual citizens are not disqualified from being Presidents. But they must be 'natural born' US citizens.

Many natural-born American citizens are dual citizens of Israel, Mexico, and other countries.
Joe Lieberman, had he become President, might have been a dual citizen.

Not enough attention has been paid to Barry Soetoro's Muslim school registration.
Yes - he was just a kid. But he lied about that after he became an adult.

He was born a Muslim, to a Muslim father.

As a child, he was raised as a Muslim, in a Muslim family and he attended Muslim classes at his school.
He has lied about his religion.

The INS request for information is really not much. His step-Dad was trying to get admitted to the US.
Obama was named "Barry Soetoro at the time. INS just wanted to know who this kid Barry Soetoro was.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Janice on May 19, 2011, 10:15:52 PM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY[/youtube]

Wow. Some amazing detail here ...
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Revolution on October 01, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
Bringing this back up because we are officially 1 month, 5 days away from Owebama, and Michelle Antoinette being thrown out on their Commie asses. Speak to me, CC. Will it help or hurt future President Romney to bring up BHO's birth certificate issue, and, or his college transcripts issue to the debate? I love the vid Janice posted and hope the Romney camp has seen it. However, even if they have, I doubt he'll bring it up. Which is unfortunate in my opinion.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: CG6468 on October 01, 2012, 11:11:36 PM
Ancestry.com website:

Stanley Ann Dunham Sotero (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/8417998/person/-953089323/photo/63c53777-ff33-404a-8eff-540143fbd98a?src=search)

Please note when this was added.
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Gina on October 02, 2012, 07:01:38 AM
Ancestry.com website:

Stanley Ann Dunham Sotero (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/8417998/person/-953089323/photo/63c53777-ff33-404a-8eff-540143fbd98a?src=search)

Please note when this was added.

says I have to sign up
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: vesta111 on October 02, 2012, 07:50:19 AM
Ancestry.com website:

Stanley Ann Dunham Sotero (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/8417998/person/-953089323/photo/63c53777-ff33-404a-8eff-540143fbd98a?src=search)

Please note when this was added.

Really stupid question here, --------How and for what reason do public records get sealed unless the reason is to protect a minor who did a petty crime ?????

 I can understand the sealing of original birth certificates in the case of adoption, however, what reason to seal school records of an adult ??     How does one go about this if they want a job and need to disguise their qualifications ???   

Say You or I want a job that requires a degree and we never received it.   Say we go into Pre Med and find out we in any way cannot   pass the tests.  We switch to basket Weaving, and Recreation.     When we later want a job that has a  required Pre Med course can we get our records sealed so any Employer can only find out you did register for the course but nothing about how long you took the course, your marks or if you did infact pass the course  ??  All the records will show is that you did graduate from college but that is that.

Lots of fun with this one, One can quit school in the 9 TH grade and claim to have graduated from that school.  All an Employer can find out is you were in fact part of the graduating class of 4+ years later as you get your records sealed.

How to explain this--------Parents and family under wittiness protection act.     or--------Parents worked for the Defence Department-----or----you were adopted as a child and your parents were afraid your biological parents would track you down. Never know when a Lib that hires people will fall for this.

Sorry Coastie, your link does not work, it took me to the page where I have to pay money to get inside to see anything.   
Title: Re: White House releases Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: CG6468 on October 02, 2012, 12:16:59 PM
says I have to sign up

I think it does. Sorry. Added 1.5 years ago.

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