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Title: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: thundley4 on April 21, 2011, 05:34:08 PM
At least that is what it sounds like.

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walldude   (1000+ posts)             Thu Apr-21-11 05:44 PM
Original message
**** it.
   
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 06:01 PM by walldude
Edited because apparently attempting to help people out is a big mistake at DU.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x937038

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Drale (1000+ posts)             Thu Apr-21-11 05:48 PM
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1. If AT&T know about it can't they just shut it down?
   
I mean don't they have control over their own network?

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walldude   (1000+ posts)             Thu Apr-21-11 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Not if you make the call...
   
And why would they care it's no skin off their noses... If I read this right that's the thing, is they get you to make the call by claiming something serious is happening to someone you love. Once you have dialed the number it's your call and you are responsible...


I read the snopes piece and it's a mixed bag. The thing is true but not all numbers in 809 charge you and other area codes have been used...

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DCKit (1000+ posts)             Thu Apr-21-11 05:49 PM
Response to Original message
2. I'm averaging a call/month from the DR.
   
U.S. telecoms should be either blocking this, or playing a recorded message about the risk before each call to the DR is completed.

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SDuderstadt   (1000+ posts)           Thu Apr-21-11 05:50 PM
Response to Original message
3. Anyone reading the Snopes entry will see that...
   
you've misrepresented their words.

"Snopes verifies it's true" is far from accurate. Nice try.

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walldude   (1000+ posts)             Thu Apr-21-11 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. Actually it was the person who sent me the e-mail
   
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 05:56 PM by walldude
who misrepresented and if you bothered to read my other post you'd see that I explained the snopes thing.

But hey, it's a slow day. Feel free to follow me around and post bullshit.

You have to be the only person on this board who would berate someone for trying to help.

Oh and I notice you didn't mention anything about AT&T saying it's true.. is that because they do? Yes they do. But hey if the call comes in go ahead and return it, ther eis nothing I would like better than to see you eat a few grand just to spite me.

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walldude   (1000+ posts)             Thu Apr-21-11 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. NOT MY ****ING LINK
   
I SAID I WAS PASSING ALONG AN E-MAIL..

But hey AT&T says it's true and Snopes says it's a mixed bag.


So go ahead and call the number when they call you. I'm sure it's totally safe.

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walldude   (1000+ posts)             Thu Apr-21-11 05:59 PM
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10. OK NEVERMIND.. IF THE ****ING CALL COMES IN RETURN IT
   
WHAT THE **** DO I CARE IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT. Snopes says its a mix and AT&T says it's real. Gee I'll play it safe and avoid the calls. You guys go ahead and call the DR I'm sure you won't have any problems.



this place is a ****ing joke. you try to help someone and you get beat down for it.

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walldude   (1000+ posts)             Thu Apr-21-11 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Yeah and the AT&T link verifies it as true.
   
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 06:14 PM by walldude
And it happened to the guy who sent me the link so I figured better safe than sorry but apparently I'm wrong. As usual.

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DFab420 (749 posts)             Thu Apr-21-11 06:22 PM
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17. Yelling and angry here too huh?
   
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 06:22 PM by DFab420
Do you yell at everyone walldude? or just people who choose to disagree with you?

Walldude seems to claim that it was someone else that scammed, but his vehemence makes me think he was the scammee.


I do not answer any calls from unknown numbers and definitely would not return a call from an unknown number.
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: LC EFA on April 21, 2011, 05:42:19 PM
I'm thinking he called a phone sex hotline somewhere in the third world and got billed for it.  :rotf:
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: franksolich on April 21, 2011, 05:44:10 PM
I'm thinking he called a phone sex hotline somewhere in the third world and got billed for it.  :rotf:


That's what it sounds like to me, too.
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: Chris_ on April 21, 2011, 06:08:42 PM
I'm thinking he called a phone sex hotline somewhere in the third world and got billed for it.  :rotf:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272338/ :confused:
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: Ballygrl on April 21, 2011, 06:34:38 PM
Not a fan of walldude, but damn, those people are nasty to him just because he was trying to be helpful. BTW, is SD a mole? I kind of enjoy most of his posts LOL.
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: Ballygrl on April 21, 2011, 06:36:48 PM
Oh, and not sure what the OP was about, but it's totally weird, I got a call on my cellphone from AT&T, I think it was an 877 #, I ignored it because I figured they dialed the wrong #, they said they were confirming an appt.
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: Chris_ on April 21, 2011, 06:39:48 PM
Not a fan of walldude, but damn, those people are nasty to him just because he was trying to be helpful. BTW, is SD a mole? I kind of enjoy most of his posts LOL.

That's part of the 'tolerance, peace, and love' those hippie holdovers are always reminiscing about.  The nicest people in the room are the first one to cut you off at the knees. 
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: LC EFA on April 21, 2011, 06:44:25 PM
Not a fan of walldude, but damn, those people are nasty to him just because he was trying to be helpful. BTW, is SD a mole? I kind of enjoy most of his posts LOL.

I don't know about his mole status - but he regularly hands out whupass to the kooks in the 9/11 forum.
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: Ballygrl on April 21, 2011, 06:48:29 PM
That's part of the 'tolerance, peace, and love' those hippie holdovers are always reminiscing about.  The nicest people in the room are the first one to cut you off at the knees.

They really are some of the nastiest people you could ever meet.

I don't know about his mole status - but he regularly hands out whupass to the kooks in the 9/11 forum.

I've seen him in other threads too doing the same thing.
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: GOBUCKS on April 21, 2011, 06:51:31 PM
Walldud is among the slimiest, most despicable, of all the DUmp vermin.
He could not be treated in a manner that would be harsher than he deserves.
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: Duke Nukum on April 21, 2011, 07:11:23 PM
Walldud is among the slimiest, most despicable, of all the DUmp vermin.
He could not be treated in a manner that would be harsher than he deserves.
Arguably, only surpassed by IanDB in terms of miserable, vile personage.
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: dandi on April 21, 2011, 08:01:46 PM
Not a fan of walldude, but damn, those people are nasty to him just because he was trying to be helpful. BTW, is SD a mole? I kind of enjoy most of his posts LOL.

They are nasty and perpetually angry people. Look how fast they turn on one another and even their liberal icons when they step out of line just the smallest bit. Can you imagine how they treat people in real life toward whom they are indifferent or those they dislike? Look at the thousands of video clips out there of confrontations between liberals and conservatives. Nine times out of ten it is the "tolerant" libs who starts screaming and hurling vile epithets and ad hominems at their foe. Just miserable creatures.
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: Chris_ on April 21, 2011, 08:04:54 PM
Can you imagine how they treat people in real life toward whom they are indifferent or those they dislike?

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,58203.0.html
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: thelaughingman on April 21, 2011, 11:40:23 PM
Because my Google-fu is strong and I want you all you really love me:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zslyYpfobVcJ:www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php%3Faz%3Dview_all%26address%3D439x937038+http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php%3Faz%3Dview_all%26address%3D439x937038&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com

And a screen shot for good measure:

(http://oi52.tinypic.com/2m30ejc.jpg)

Walldud didn't even get the links right.  Here's the Snopes link:

http://www.snopes.com/fraud/telephone/809.asp

Not quite as "verified" as Walldud claimed.  $2425!  lol!
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: Revolution on April 22, 2011, 01:52:12 AM
hOLY FRIJOLES! I can't imagine paying that/min if I was calling exactly, directly halfway around the world. At least part of this story = :bouncy:
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: BlueStateSaint on April 22, 2011, 05:11:58 AM
hOLY FRIJOLES! I can't imagine paying that/min if I was calling exactly, directly halfway around the world. At least part of this story = :bouncy:

Well, 99.9999999% of something is 'part' of it, not 100% . . .
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: NHSparky on April 22, 2011, 05:33:59 AM
Scams of this sort have been going on for nearly two decades.

Also the reason I don't answer e-mails from people I don't know (Spam filters work) and phone calls where I don't recognize the number or it's not local.

You don't have to be over-the-top paranoid, DUmmies, just minimally aware.
Title: Re: Walldude falls prey to phone scam
Post by: miskie on April 22, 2011, 05:39:22 AM
I can't believe this is back...

When I was part of AT&T, I and a few others put together a newsletter that contained information on the international direct-dialed call scam.

The Dominican Republic was always a problem with this, as well as Vanuatu, Moldova, and a couple other destinations that slip my mind. This was big in the day of telephone line modems - often a virus would place phone calls in the middle of the night..

Why - The short version:

A foreign company, and the government of the international destination setup a revenue sharing scam for calls that come in from certain other countries. Since the USA is 'super wealthy' - we are targeted as a source of easy money.

The policy was AT&T would adjust this type of call ONCE and only ONCE, as the international destination would get paid for the call, regardless. But since I haven't been there in 11 years, policies may have changed (and since its been 11 years, my nondisclosure agreement has expired, allowing me to mention this)