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Impeach Obama Over Libya, You Got to Be Kidding
Impeach Obama Over Libya, You Got to Be Kidding
By earl ofari hutchinson
Perennial congressional gadfly Dennis Kucinich completely lost his political screws when he even uttered the word "impeachment" of President Obama over his action in Libya. Kucinich has often been the lone, outraged voice, in blistering Obama on everything from his tax cut compromise with the GOP to his Afghan war policy, but the Libya outburst made no sense by even Kucinich's radical rhetoric standards.
No one disputes the legal, constitutional and political need of Presidents to get approval from t Congress when the issue is waging war.
This obligation is clearly spelled out in the War Powers Act. And those congresspersons that made that point were right to make it. Kucinich and the handful of Democrats that rip Obama about Libya certainly know that there is virtually no possibility that Obama will blatantly abuse that power as Bush did in Iraq and Afghanistan and commit American ground troops to combat in Libya. That would be a gross violation of the provisions of the Act.
Obama backed the Libyan no fly zone because the United Nations "Security Council by unanimous vote backed it. The House Foreign affairs and intelligence committees backed the action. The Arab league backed it. And nearly every humanitarian group around has backed it. But most important he backed it because it's the politically and morally right thing to do. Kucinich and others would have screamed the loudest if Obama had done nothing and Khadafy slaughtered thousands in a revenge blood lust rampage against the rebel groups. In his case, and that of every other dictator that's ever been under siege from their own people that almost always translates out to the slaughter of innocent women children and old folk, under the guise of restoring order. If Obama hadn't acted he would have been even more loudly damned as being weak, indecisive and a chronic ditherer when it comes to making tough decisions on foreign policy issues.
He's already heard that slander endlessly from his GOP attackers. So the screams about the president violating congressional trust and prerogatives simply adds to the noise. Kucinich and some of Obama's severest critics among Democrats real goal is to send the message that they don't like a lot of what Obama does and they will pick at every little issue to dramatize their pique at him. They continue to hope that they can nudge Obama from his cautious, centrist stance they loath on issues a little more to the left. Libya is just the latest, and the most convenient way to do that.
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Kucinich has lost his mind!
A U.N. resolution is not a unilateral U.S. action.
ProSense (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-20-11 03:33 PMSorry NonSense.
Response to Reply #2
7. It's a U.N. action
Congress cannot impeach a President for following the U.N. Charter. It's completely bizarre to even suggest that. ...
Sorry NonSense.
If a sitting president violates the laws of this country, he may be impeached.
The UN charter does not change that.
Might I add...screw the UN.
ProSense (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-20-11 03:33 PMCongress is the sole judge of what constitutes an impeachable offense. If a majority of the House of Representatives decides that playing golf is misfeasance, then they can impeach the president for a round of golf. If two-thirds of the Senate agree, then he's out, and there are no grounds for appeal. When Dubya shredded the Constitution, he must have hidden the pieces where the DUmmies can't find them.
Response to Reply #2
7. It's a U.N. action
Congress cannot impeach a President for following the U.N. Charter. It's completely bizarre to even suggest that. ...
Nonsense got the words right more or less. Obama, the Dithering Idiot, pResident White House Jock was henpecked into this according to Meat The Depressed. :rotf:IfObamahadn't acted he wshould have been even more loudly damned as being weak, indecisive and a chronic ditherer when it comes to making tough decisions on foreign policy issues.
Here, since you're shy I'll say it for you.Well, yes.
**** the UN. O-)
Modern_Matthew (364 posts) Sun Mar-20-11 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. A piece of paper means diddly. War is wrong no matter what's collecting dust in our law archives. nt
Modern_Matthew (364 posts) Sun Mar-20-11 03:34 PM
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8. Sounds good to me. A decision to go to war should always be met with such action. nt
Hmmmm...seem to recall that we had UN okay AND an approval to use force in both Afghanistan AND Iraq, but that wasn't enough for you libtards.
And Earl Ofari Hutchinson? What a friggin tool. This is the same guy that says Clarence Thomas needs to be impeached.
Idiot.
As said Kucinich is a loon but he does have ethics and has gone up in my opinion. Do I agree with him, no. But he is not a hypocrite and has stayed to his beliefs no matter what party is in control of the White House.
And, anyway, lots of people fantasize about really, really tall chicks.
(http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac32/gobucksnumbers/koochandcooch.jpg)
Considering that Kucinich is somewhere right around 5'4" it would make his wife about my height.He claims to be 5'7". News stories around the time of their marriage said she was over 6'. I was admiring The Kootch's million-dollar teeth.
It is the red hair and dog collar that does it for most guys I figure. :-)
But yes, any Kooksandwich post should really have her picture just because he is such a dork. :rotf:
It is the red hair and dog collar that does it for most guys I figure. :-)
But yes, any Kooksandwich post should really have her picture just because he is such a dork. :rotf:
I thought that was a bandage around her throat to hide the fang marks.
It is the red hair and dog collar that does it for most guys I figure. :-)One of the endearing details that were in the news is that she's got a metal stud in her tongue.
But yes, any Kooksandwich post should really have her picture just because he is such a dork.
One of the endearing details that were in the news is that she's got a metal stud in her tongue.
That may be why The Kootch has such a broad smile.
I thought that was a bandage around her throat to hide the fang marks.
As said Kucinich is a loon but he does have ethics and has gone up in my opinion. Do I agree with him, no. But he is not a hypocrite and has stayed to his beliefs no matter what party is in control of the White House.
You gotta hand him down that he is honest what he says.
Modern_Matthew (364 posts) Sun Mar-20-11 03:36 PMGo bury your head in sand you liberal goon.
Response to Reply #6
10. A piece of paper means diddly. War is wrong no matter what's collecting dust in our law archives. nt
But he is not a hypocrite and has stayed to his beliefs no matter what party is in control of the White House.
What he said. ^5
He's a huge hypocrite. When he was a Cleveland local politician in the 70s, depending on thousands of ethnic Catholic voters, he was a committed pro-life anti-abortion candidate. Then as mayor, he incompetently guided the city into bankruptcy and was thrown out of office. Went into exile in some pothead community in New Mexico for a few years. Then he re-emerged to run for the Ohio state senate, and then the Congress, as a blood-dripping pro-abortion zealot. Coincidentally, that position qualified him to suck up democrat party funding, something a pro-life postion would have made impossible. Dennis is a deranged creep.
Well, yes.
I was being a nice guy. O-)
What is so magical about the freaking U.N.? Are they saying without U.N. approval the Libyans aren't worth going in to save, but because they've given their stamp of approval it's then okay?
That seems to be the main argument from the DUmmy pro-interventionists. Only the sacrosanct U.N. can deem which lives are worthy to save and which aren't. Without their blessings the rest can just die.
**** the U.N. One hundred ninety-two countries all pulling for their own self-interest. We're supposed to depend on that to determine who lives and who dies? Hell no.
He's on Hannity (radio) right now, and not as the opposing viewpoint. Someone tell the DUmmies so we can watch their heads a splode.
I heard him on Hannity. They actually agreed that the Obamessiah hadn't followed proper Constitutional procedure on Libya.
Heh! There's a few of us here, that don't give a shit about bein' nice anymore!It irritates the crap out of them, Allo.
It irritates the crap out of them, Allo.
They just can't comprehend.
That's the good part. :-)
My motto is............
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
Hi-5.