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Title: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 28, 2011, 04:32:06 PM
Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/28/texas.daycare.deaths/

22 year old Jessica Tata ran a day care center that caught fire and killed 4 babies. She is now in trouble and reportedly was arrested in Atlanta.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 28, 2011, 04:53:34 PM
That's so sad.  :(

May that bitch rot in hell.

Nothing against younger women, but I just couldn't personally trust a 22 year old with my daughter.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 28, 2011, 05:12:02 PM
That's so sad.  :(

May that bitch rot in hell.

Nothing against younger women, but I just couldn't personally trust a 22 year old with my daughter.

She went out shopping and left a stove unattended. The fire started from there. I don't know why she would run a day care center all by herself.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: MrsSmith on February 28, 2011, 05:27:17 PM
She went out shopping and left a stove unattended. The fire started from there. I don't know why she would run a day care center all by herself.
How could she leave with a house full of toddlers??  No matter what else, you don't just leave a bunch of little kids all by themselves!
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 28, 2011, 05:31:12 PM
How could she leave with a house full of toddlers??  No matter what else, you don't just leave a bunch of little kids all by themselves!

The parent's of these children trusted this woman to watch their kids.  Not go out to the grocery store for food.  Do that on your own time when the children have all been picked up for the day.  Four innocent little babies are now gone due to her negligence.  How these parent's can control themselves not to end that woman's life is beyond me.  Or maybe I am just way too protective of my daughter.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 28, 2011, 07:50:43 PM
Jessica Tata flees to Nigeria after day care fire kills four, says Houston fire dept.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20037495-504083.html

Jessica Tata has fled to Nigeria. Talk about a coward!  :mental: :bird: :argh:

This quote stuck out.
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Storms believes Tata should face capital murder charges in the case.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: DefiantSix on February 28, 2011, 08:08:37 PM
It absolutely floors me that you have to go to a BRITISH newspaper website to see what an AMERICAN fugitive from justice looks like.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/01/article-1361655-0D6AB303000005DC-189_233x423.jpg)

Hunt for woman charged over daycare fire which killed four tots after she flees to Nigeria (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361655/Hunt-woman-charged-daycare-killed-tots-flees-Nigeria.html?ITO=1490)

Way to go, American "free press".  :banghead:

Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: compaqxp on February 28, 2011, 11:47:35 PM
One of the parents called it "unfortunate". That is a sever understatement. I can't imagine if I had a kid involved in something like that.

I feel terrible for them.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 01, 2011, 05:03:26 PM
How was woman charged in fire able to flee?
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7985674

You have to wonder if she had help in fleeing to Nigeria. Now, the US Marshals is going to find her.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: DefiantSix on March 01, 2011, 05:18:28 PM
How was woman charged in fire able to flee?
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7985674

You have to wonder if she had help in fleeing to Nigeria. Now, the US Marshals is going to find her.

Maybe she had a layover in Kenya?
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 01, 2011, 05:45:59 PM
Jessica Tata's classmate speaks out. She is really crazy and even set fire to a bathroom.  :mental:

http://instantnewskaty.com/2011/03/01/19673
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: seahorse513 on March 01, 2011, 05:50:39 PM
The parent's of these children trusted this woman to watch their kids.  Not go out to the grocery store for food.  Do that on your own time when the children have all been picked up for the day.  Four innocent little babies are now gone due to her negligence.  How these parent's can control themselves not to end that woman's life is beyond me.  Or maybe I am just way too protective of my daughter.
No you are not being overprotective. The fact is according to article, she had already been cited for not having a carbonmonoxide detector as well as a fire extinguisher in the center. To me that would be a red flag right there!! I wonder how many times before she had left the little ones unattended. I realize that we cannot discriminate against her age, but the state should have insisted that she should have another responsible(key word here)adult with her. Also isn't there supposed to ba a ratio of caregiver:child?
I feel bad for the parents...
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Evil_Conservative on March 01, 2011, 06:29:58 PM
No you are not being overprotective. The fact is according to article, she had already been cited for not having a carbonmonoxide detector as well as a fire extinguisher in the center. To me that would be a red flag right there!! I wonder how many times before she had left the little ones unattended. I realize that we cannot discriminate against her age, but the state should have insisted that she should have another responsible(key word here)adult with her. Also isn't there supposed to ba a ratio of caregiver:child?
I feel bad for the parents...

Oh I discriminate against age.  I can't trust a 22 year old with my toddler.  No way.  Ever.  Not even a six year old.  Young adults these days are so much different than say, 10 years ago even.  I started babysitting at 13.  But there were less distractions back then.  That totally sounds like I am really old, but I'm not.  lol

I'd rather not wonder if my babysitter is playing Angry Birds on Android rather than watching my daughter.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: seahorse513 on March 01, 2011, 06:34:49 PM
Oh I discriminate against age.  I can't trust a 22 year old with my toddler.  No way.  Ever.  Not even a six year old.  Young adults these days are so much different than say, 10 years ago even.  I started babysitting at 13.  But there were less distractions back then.  That totally sounds like I am really old, but I'm not.  lol

I'd rather not wonder if my babysitter is playing Angry Birds on Android rather than watching my daughter.
You have a point there... That is why I mentioned having another responsible adult
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 01, 2011, 08:40:46 PM
DA warns public about day care victim fund
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7451979.html

Jessica Tata's brother Ronald setup a charity fund for the victims. Sounds like a scam to me.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 02, 2011, 02:54:11 PM
Witness' video captures Day care owner’s reaction to fatal fire
http://www.khou.com/video/featured-videos/Witness-video-captures-Day-care-owners-reaction-to-fatal-fire--117128683.html

11 minute video and shows Jessica Tata not distraught at all. If she is, she is likely faking it.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Evil_Conservative on March 02, 2011, 04:01:53 PM
Witness' video captures Day care owner’s reaction to fatal fire
http://www.khou.com/video/featured-videos/Witness-video-captures-Day-care-owners-reaction-to-fatal-fire--117128683.html

11 minute video and shows Jessica Tata not distraught at all. If she is, she is likely faking it.

Does the video show her at the scene?  If so, I'm not sure I can watch it.  :(
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 02, 2011, 04:09:13 PM
Does the video show her at the scene?  If so, I'm not sure I can watch it.  :(

Yes, it does. She does not look concerned or distraught. If she is, she is likely faking it.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: thundley4 on March 02, 2011, 05:11:45 PM
Anyone remember some woman a couple of years ago whose house was burning down and she was worried about her purse and EBT card?
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 02, 2011, 05:38:47 PM
Anyone remember some woman a couple of years ago whose house was burning down and she was worried about her purse and EBT card?

I think I remember it. Was it ever posted here?
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: thundley4 on March 02, 2011, 05:41:27 PM
I think I remember it. Was it ever posted here?

I think so.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Chris_ on March 02, 2011, 05:53:58 PM
There was a home that burned down a few years ago and the two children in the house died.  The grandmother was on camera saying how glad she was that she got her purse out in time.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: thundley4 on March 03, 2011, 01:40:49 AM
There was a home that burned down a few years ago and the two children in the house died.  The grandmother was on camera saying how glad she was that she got her purse out in time.

That's probably what I was thinking of.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: IassaFTots on March 03, 2011, 07:53:47 AM
There was a home that burned down a few years ago and the two children in the house died.  The grandmother was on camera saying how glad she was that she got her purse out in time.

yeah, I remember that.  I think it was in Atlanta, or Houston. 
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: NHSparky on March 03, 2011, 07:57:53 AM
yeah, I remember that.  I think it was in Atlanta, or Houston. 

Actually, it was Memphis.

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news/tennessee/101909_House_Fire_Sends_Two_Kids_to_Hospital
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: IassaFTots on March 03, 2011, 07:59:36 AM
Actually, it was Memphis.

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news/tennessee/101909_House_Fire_Sends_Two_Kids_to_Hospital

Oh well, I was close.   :whatever:
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 03, 2011, 01:56:56 PM
Suspect in deadly day care blaze had prior arson case
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7453961.html

Gotta wonder how she managed to get a day care license despite having arson charges.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: docstew on March 03, 2011, 02:14:57 PM
Oh I discriminate against age.  I can't trust a 22 year old with my toddler.  No way.  Ever.  Not even a six year old.  Young adults these days are so much different than say, 10 years ago even.  I started babysitting at 13.  But there were less distractions back then.  That totally sounds like I am really old, but I'm not.  lol

I'd rather not wonder if my babysitter is playing Angry Birds on Android rather than watching my daughter.

Hey! What's wrong with playing Angry Birds? That shit is awesome!

Then again, when dealing with kids, maybe not so much...
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: vesta111 on March 03, 2011, 03:21:10 PM
Hey! What's wrong with playing Angry Birds? That shit is awesome!

Then again, when dealing with kids, maybe not so much...

BIG PROBLEM here folks.   The day care center may have catered to parents that could not pay $!00 a week for each kid.  To put 2 kids in day care to work 2-3 jobs at minimun wage is to take 40% of the salary one brings in. So one goes to a low cost center and prays for the best.

I do not want to offend anyone here--- the problem seems to be with family's with 2-3 kids on welfare that get a job.

So we who who feel the children have a right to life now go nuts that we have to pay for them after they are born.  We demand the mother or father support the kids, and get out there and work.    NOW who takes care of the kids while they work????

People trying to get off welfare with kids are behind a rock and a hard place.   Who can they afford to pay to watch their baby's while they work???
 
 A real bitch any income is deducted from welfare check but the cost to watch the children is not considered.   So a single mom with 2 baby's brings in $ 360  gross and after taxes perhaps $ $340 only a week and her cost to watch her kids is $150  a week.  Her welfare will be cut down to match her salary but with child care she is net  about $190 bucks a week.------------------------If she stays home and lives on welfare she will get minimun of $225 bucks a week and section 8 housing and food stamps.

What we think people are stupid, go to work, loose all the benefits and leave your baby's with anyone you can find.  This is when tragedy comes in and lives are changed for the worse.

This is the way things were years ago--Today I do not know but I do hope they are better.  Trying to work and get reliable care givers for our precious baby's is difficult regardless if you are very poor or ultra rich.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: seahorse513 on March 03, 2011, 04:20:58 PM
Suspect in deadly day care blaze had prior arson case
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7453961.html

Gotta wonder how she managed to get a day care license despite having arson charges.
Yeah i had mentioned that in another post for me, in my reply to Jess
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Evil_Conservative on March 03, 2011, 06:00:05 PM
BIG PROBLEM here folks.   The day care center may have catered to parents that could not pay $!00 a week for each kid.  To put 2 kids in day care to work 2-3 jobs at minimun wage is to take 40% of the salary one brings in. So one goes to a low cost center and prays for the best.

I do not want to offend anyone here--- the problem seems to be with family's with 2-3 kids on welfare that get a job.

So we who who feel the children have a right to life now go nuts that we have to pay for them after they are born.  We demand the mother or father support the kids, and get out there and work.    NOW who takes care of the kids while they work????

People trying to get off welfare with kids are behind a rock and a hard place.   Who can they afford to pay to watch their baby's while they work???
 
 A real bitch any income is deducted from welfare check but the cost to watch the children is not considered.   So a single mom with 2 baby's brings in $ 360  gross and after taxes perhaps $ $340 only a week and her cost to watch her kids is $150  a week.  Her welfare will be cut down to match her salary but with child care she is net  about $190 bucks a week.------------------------If she stays home and lives on welfare she will get minimun of $225 bucks a week and section 8 housing and food stamps.

What we think people are stupid, go to work, loose all the benefits and leave your baby's with anyone you can find.  This is when tragedy comes in and lives are changed for the worse.

This is the way things were years ago--Today I do not know but I do hope they are better.  Trying to work and get reliable care givers for our precious baby's is difficult regardless if you are very poor or ultra rich.

$100 a week for daycare?  LMFAO

When Carleigh was in daycare, we paid $195 a week.  It would have been nice to pay $100/wk though.  I'd just like to say WTF to the rest of your post though.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: seahorse513 on March 03, 2011, 06:38:21 PM
$100 a week for daycare?  LMFAO

When Carleigh was in daycare, we paid $195 a week.  It would have been nice to pay $100/wk though.  I'd just like to say WTF to the rest of your post though.
My niece decided to be a stay at home mom to her little girls. She has taken on two other small ones to help supplement her side of not having a job. It works out well for her and her husband. We (my parents, her parents)all help out when we can. i will buy the girls pj's and other clothes using my discount, if they are struggling. Each situation is different, and everone has to do what is best for them and be open to other options.

Ps @ Jess, Carleigh is a very pretty and unique name
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: Evil_Conservative on March 03, 2011, 08:30:30 PM
My niece decided to be a stay at home mom to her little girls. She has taken on two other small ones to help supplement her side of not having a job. It works out well for her and her husband. We (my parents, her parents)all help out when we can. i will buy the girls pj's and other clothes using my discount, if they are struggling. Each situation is different, and everone has to do what is best for them and be open to other options.

Ps @ Jess, Carleigh is a very pretty and unique name

Thanks.  I liked the name, but not the traditional spelling of Carly.  So I made it Carleigh.  :)

I'm working on getting an ad on Care.com for babysitting.  I'm home all day, why not?  It will be a small income to hold us over.  And my in-laws are always sending out clothes for Carleigh.  We rarely buy her any outfits these days because everyone else does it for us.  We are very very thankful for the grandparent's.
Title: Re: Houston day care owner faces charges in deadly blaze
Post by: seahorse513 on March 04, 2011, 01:42:14 AM
Thanks.  I liked the name, but not the traditional spelling of Carly.  So I made it Carleigh.  :)

I'm working on getting an ad on Care.com for babysitting.  I'm home all day, why not?  It will be a small income to hold us over.  And my in-laws are always sending out clothes for Carleigh.  We rarely buy her any outfits these days because everyone else does it for us.  We are very very thankful for the grandparent's.
It's good that you have supportive parents. Everyone struggles, and there is nothing wrong in reaching out whether recieving or giving help.