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Amerigo Vespucci (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-12-11 09:33 PM
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For Michele Bachmann, the meaning of Black History Month is "February."
Bachmann ignores slavery in African-American history again
By Nathan Diebenow
Friday, February 11th, 2011 -- 9:30 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/bachmann-ignores-sla... /
Black History Month was made for people like Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN).
However, it increasingly looks as though the tea party heroine not only never paid attention to African-American history but seeks to re-write it in her own image.
"Other than Native Americans who were here, all of us have the same story," Bachmann told the National Press Club at a "Tea Party Express Forum" Tuesday.
She went on to insist that all Americans are descendants of "a risk-taker from their home country, doesn't matter what the country is, but they took a risk, and they came here."
"And they knew when they came here they weren't coming for a welfare state," Bachmann continued. "They were coming here for the thrill of writing their own ticket. Who did we attract? People that wanted a better life and were willing to do what it took to get it."
prolesunited (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-12-11 09:38 PM
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4. I think the ones who were kidnapped
and "lucky" enough to survive the journey over in slave ships and then held in bondage, traded and sold might have a different perspective.
Well MORON, they would all be dead now. I wonder how many "descendants of slaves" would be willing to give up their housing, food stamps, cash for baby mamas, cable TV on the HD 54 incher, cell phones etc, etc, to move back to the squaller of their "homelands" that they were so cruelly ripped out of?
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-12-11 09:38 PM
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4. I think the ones who were kidnapped
and "lucky" enough to survive the journey over in slave ships and then held in bondage, traded and sold might have a different perspective.
Nobody ever talks about blacks being sold into slavery by fellow blacks, nor do they talk about slavery in Africa and the Middle East that continues.
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And no one says anything about there not being a White history month or a Hispanic history month or an Asian history month either.
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Andf no one says anything about there not being a White history month or a Hispanic history month or an Asian history month either.
...and the homeless don't get a month. [BoBo/mode]
Now let me catch the ferry over to the island to see if I beat BoBo to the punch.
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I'm surprised UGP hasn't chimed in about not having a LGT tattooed, pierced, pink-haired, psychotic, medicated, mid-sexchange, circus sideshow freak month.
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I'm surprised UGP hasn't chimed in about not having a LGT tattooed, pierced, pink-haired, psychotic, medicated, mid-sexchange, circus sideshow freak month.
Ain't that "February?" :tongue: :fuelfire:
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At least it's a short month.
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The DU as a whole is ignorant of slavery and what it was about. My mole had quite a thread going over there once upon a time. I posted about how the slaves were allowed to work for others when they were done working for their master for the day. I posted that most slaves were paid. I posted that a lot of slaves bought their freedom by working for actual money after they had finished their day on the 'plantation'. I posted that some became business people after they bought their freedom ...
The DU was absolutely appalled that I could post those 'LIES!!!' There were a few that supported me but they were few and far between.
It was amusing.
KC
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Those are the same idiots that believe Uncle Tom's Cabin was non-fiction.
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Andf no one says anything about there not being a White history month or a Hispanic history month or an Asian history month either.
Actually we were forced to celebrate Asian/Pacific islander and Hispanic history month in the Navy. As well as black, womens, Native American and so on history month. Actually black history month started for us in January and went through the month of February. I am just wondering when gay history month will be.
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The DU as a whole is ignorant of slavery and what it was about. My mole had quite a thread going over there once upon a time. I posted about how the slaves were allowed to work for others when they were done working for their master for the day. I posted that most slaves were paid. I posted that a lot of slaves bought their freedom by working for actual money after they had finished their day on the 'plantation'. I posted that some became business people after they bought their freedom ...
The DU was absolutely appalled that I could post those 'LIES!!!' There were a few that supported me but they were few and far between.
It was amusing.
KC
According to the records, the church I was baptised in, raised in and seldom attend now was 2/3's black before The Civil War and the blacks contributed half the money collected. Makes you wonder where they got money doesn't it.
The Union Army split the church and made the whites leave it to the blacks after the Civil War.
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I find it amazing that our country has become so afro-centric that 11% of our population controls much of our actions due to the MSM and guilt.
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According to the records, the church I was baptised in, raised in and seldom attend now was 2/3's black before The Civil War and the blacks contributed half the money collected. Makes you wonder where they got money doesn't it.
The Union Army split the church and made the whites leave it to the blacks after the Civil War.
When I took a history class in college the professor was telling all the things I mentioned above about the slaves. The black kids in the class were standing up telling him he was lying. It was amazing. That was not the truth they knew and it was not a truth they wanted to know.
I never could figure out why they were so adamant in their denial.
KC
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I find it amazing that our country has become so afro-centric that 11% of our population controls much of our actions due to the MSM and guilt.
What? When you go to dinner with friends, there's always at least one black couple, isn't there?
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What? When you go to dinner with friends, there's always at least one black couple, isn't there?
One serving the food and the other busing the tables? :whistling:
Actually, around here it is usually young kids doing that work.
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I find it amazing that our country has become so afro-centric that 11% of our population controls much of our actions due to the MSM and guilt.
What guilt?
Not me. All that shit happened before I was even a gleam in anyone's eye. We have a black President. Blacks aren't held back from achieving anything they so desire. They have made it to the top.
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What guilt?
Not me. All that shit happened before I was even a gleam in anyone's eye. We have a black President. Blacks aren't held back from achieving anything they so desire. They have made it to the top.
Do you believe Obama would have been elected if he weren't black? That is where guilt comes into it, mainly from white liberals.
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Do you believe Obama would have been elected if he weren't black? That is where guilt comes into it, mainly from white liberals.
The pantywaists were. Not me.
Half (SWAG) of the liberals would have voted for Idi Amin Dada if he ran as a democrat. They would vote for the big butt obama momma if she ran.
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And no one says anything about there not being a White history month or a Hispanic history month or an Asian history month either.
No kiddin'!!!!!!!!
Is there a Hispanic history month? How 'bout an American Indian history month? How 'bout a Irish, Polish, Italian, Greek, etc, etc, etc?
You DemonRats made them victims in order to garner votes. Hence "Black History Month"! I dare ya to step into South Central LA, or Watts, and tell 'em they're all victims if you're Caucasian!!!!!
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Do you believe Obama would have been elected if he weren't black? That is where guilt comes into it, mainly from white liberals.
And I know a few people who actually voted for him for that reason, they wanted to say "look at me I'm not racist I voted for a black man", that really did a lot of good because guess who's bitching now about him? the ones that voted for him for the wrong reason. Gene Simmons basically said the truth when he said he voted for Obama, it was a chance to be history making, and now he says he wants to take back his vote.
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Do you believe Obama would have been elected if he weren't black? That is where guilt comes into it, mainly from white liberals.
He would not have been nominated, had he not been black. A black face reading off a teleprompter in clear English was a dream come true for democrats. If he'd been white, he would have been a joke. But any democrat, outside their stable of real nutcases like Kootch, would have won the election after the Republicans put up the worst ticket since Dole/Kemp. We punted, and they just made a fair catch.
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Slavery was a step up from the way White tenant farmers were treated in those days. A million Irish died because selling the grain they raised was more important to the landlords than their lives were, Black slaves in America never suffered any such atrocity.
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Slavery was a step up from the way White tenant farmers were treated in those days. A million Irish died because selling the grain they raised was more important to the landlords than their lives were, Black slaves in America never suffered any such atrocity.
Exactly! America has used various nationalities to be prejudiced against! The Italians took their turn, the Irish, the Polish, the Russians, we're supposed to feel more sorry for the Africans because everyone in the world, including their own people, took advantage of their ignorance.
Does Cuba have a day for their heritage, how about Jamaica, or Argentina, or Brazil? More of them ended up there than in America, yet we are held responsible for all the inhumanity to man!
The only reason for this is, we can afford it! If America was no more successful than these third world wanna bees, their freedom as we know it, would never have happened in the first place!
America has done more to further equal rights in the world for all races than any other established country since time began, yet we are held more accountable than all of the rest!
Why is that DUmmies? Pull yer head outa er ass and ask yourself that question!
Where would the world be if we had not pushed for equality as is stated in our Documents? Who does the world follow when it comes to "Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, Cuba, Venezuela???
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s[/youtube]
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The DU as a whole is ignorant of slavery and what it was about. My mole had quite a thread going over there once upon a time. I posted about how the slaves were allowed to work for others when they were done working for their master for the day. I posted that most slaves were paid. I posted that a lot of slaves bought their freedom by working for actual money after they had finished their day on the 'plantation'. I posted that some became business people after they bought their freedom ...
The DU was absolutely appalled that I could post those 'LIES!!!' There were a few that supported me but they were few and far between.
It was amusing.
KC
While all of that is true the fact remains they were slaves.
They were forced, under arms, into a life they did not choose and would not accept if left to their own devises.
The founders revolted against the crown for less than that and today we're practically up in arms over less.
Imagine being told by your employer you had to work 40 to 50 hours for free but after that anything you earned you could keep for yourself OR give to him for the right to finally start being your own man even though you were a few thousand miles from your original home.
Slavery is still slavery.
OTOH: I'm actually, even in modern times, OK with voluntary indentured servitude and I think any form public assistance should include mandatory labor. Those who are habitually unable to support themselves should be sold to whoever will pay for their support in return for their work.
But this implies a "voluntary" state of affairs. The institution the abolitionists railed against was anything but voluntary and no person here would or should accept the terms it imposed on its victims.
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No kiddin'!!!!!!!!
Is there a Hispanic history month? How 'bout an American Indian history month? How 'bout a Irish, Polish, Italian, Greek, etc, etc, etc?
You DemonRats made them victims in order to garner votes. Hence "Black History Month"! I dare ya to step into South Central LA, or Watts, and tell 'em they're all victims if you're Caucasian!!!!!
Hispanic Heritage Month: September-ish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Hispanic_Heritage_Month)
Native American Heritage Month: November (http://nativeamericanheritagemonth.gov/)
Asian Pacific Heritage Month: May (http://asianpacificheritage.gov/)
Italian Heritage Month: Not official, trying to get it recognized for October (http://www.italianheritagemonth.com/)
Polish Heritage Month: August (http://www.polishamericancenter.org/heritmo.htm)
Irish Heritage Month: March (http://www.irishamericanheritage.com/)
Notice, however, that the last three are not 'officially' recognized by the government.
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s[/youtube]
Mr. Freeman.....................BRAVO.
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Hispanic Heritage Month: September-ish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Hispanic_Heritage_Month)
Native American Heritage Month: November (http://nativeamericanheritagemonth.gov/)
Asian Pacific Heritage Month: May (http://asianpacificheritage.gov/)
Italian Heritage Month: Not official, trying to get it recognized for October (http://www.italianheritagemonth.com/)
Polish Heritage Month: August (http://www.polishamericancenter.org/heritmo.htm)
Irish Heritage Month: March (http://www.irishamericanheritage.com/)
Notice, however, that the last three are not 'officially' recognized by the government.
All news to me! Wonder why that is? Could it be because the left have portrayed Blacks as victims for 50 years and shoved it down our throats?
Naw, that can't be it. All those gangstas runnin' around "taggin" their neighborhoods and makin' 'em complete eyesores, wavin' guns around, sellin' crack to their own people, and killin' each other off, are just disgruntled poor folk. If we could just give 'em more money, it will all go away and we will feel better about ourselves.
This is a nightmare completely designed and carried out by the left. Until the inner city begins to help themselves, it will continue! Hope the lefties are proud of themselves!
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All news to me! Wonder why that is? Could it be because the left have portrayed Blacks as victims for 50 years and shoved it down our throats?
Naw, that can't be it. All those gangstas runnin' around "taggin" their neighborhoods and makin' 'em complete eyesores, wavin' guns around, sellin' crack to their own people, and killin' each other off, are just disgruntled poor folk. If we could just give 'em more money, it will all go away and we will feel better about ourselves.
This is a nightmare completely designed and carried out by the left. Until the inner city begins to help themselves, it will continue! Hope the lefties are proud of themselves!
They don't want to, it's that simple. They assume everything they want ought to be handed to them. From what I saw in my classroom, very few of the kids wanted anything to do with hard work. It was easier to sit back and collect welfare.
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It's pretty damned condescending to pander to their pet ethnic group one month out of the year and then forget they exist until they have an election.
Cindie
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While all of that is true the fact remains they were slaves.
They were forced, under arms, into a life they did not choose and would not accept if left to their own devises.
The founders revolted against the crown for less than that and today we're practically up in arms over less.
Imagine being told by your employer you had to work 40 to 50 hours for free but after that anything you earned you could keep for yourself OR give to him for the right to finally start being your own man even though you were a few thousand miles from your original home.Slavery is still slavery.
OTOH: I'm actually, even in modern times, OK with voluntary indentured servitude and I think any form public assistance should include mandatory labor. Those who are habitually unable to support themselves should be sold to whoever will pay for their support in return for their work.
But this implies a "voluntary" state of affairs. The institution the abolitionists railed against was anything but voluntary and no person here would or should accept the terms it imposed on its victims.
What I highlighted describes the state of affairs for 90% of all European Americans' ancestors. My own Mom's people, the Hungarians, were victims of the fedual system of serfdom until 1848. Does that make me a victim? Puleeze. In this country, people HAVE been discriminated against because they had brown or black skin, and now many of their descendants feel free to return the favor. How do two wrongs make a right? All black Americans who rail against past injustices to their ancestors do is set up my back and many others as well. Any dipshit reading this from the liberal viewpoint will call me a racist. Fine. Whatever. I feel sorry for people who live in a state of denial. You are entitled to your opinions, but not your facts, DUmmies, and plenty have been presented by other posters here. Google serfdom and get back to me. Or, rather, please don't bother. I'm sure you will find a way to justify feeling a special status as a victim, although people have lived in slavery since mankind has existed, and always will in some places, unless maybe you go spend some of your ****ing liberal outrage on the abuses of people in other parts of the world. Take the beam out of your own eye, and use it to hit yourself upside the head. Maybe then you can stimulate those two brain cells you carry around into forming a logical thought.
For the most part, liberals in the USA railing against racism and sexism and homophobia are like children who feel free to cuss out their parents because they feel safe. Go spew the same rant in damn near any non European country in the world and you're likely to end up dead, or a slave in truth.
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While all of that is true the fact remains they were slaves.
They were forced, under arms, into a life they did not choose and would not accept if left to their own devises.
The founders revolted against the crown for less than that and today we're practically up in arms over less.
Imagine being told by your employer you had to work 40 to 50 hours for free but after that anything you earned you could keep for yourself OR give to him for the right to finally start being your own man even though you were a few thousand miles from your original home.
Slavery is still slavery.
I'm not excusing slavery. While it was an accepted practice when it was done it was still horrible. What I take exception to is the black community (those I saw in college) refusing to accept that slaves were paid and were allowed to work for others for pay. In essence a lot of it was like an apprenticeship program. Not one most people would choose by any stretch but that is basically how it worked out. The slave learned a trade, was paid (poorly) for their work and eventually bought their freedom. Some of those went on to become ship captains or business men on their own. Why deny that?
FWIW most of the slaves were actually paid by their owner for all their time of work. It wasn't much but they were also provided room and board.
Again, I am not saying slavery was great but it was accepted in the time. What I'm getting at, for any who want to pick at this nit, is why would the black community (or any community) deny the history that is there? Do they want it to actually sound worse than it was?? Jeezus. It was bad enough as it happened.
KC
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I'm not excusing slavery. While it was an accepted practice when it was done it was still horrible. What I take exception to is the black community (those I saw in college) refusing to accept that slaves were paid and were allowed to work for others for pay. In essence a lot of it was like an apprenticeship program. Not one most people would choose by any stretch but that is basically how it worked out. The slave learned a trade, was paid (poorly) for their work and eventually bought their freedom. Some of those went on to become ship captains or business men on their own. Why deny that?
FWIW most of the slaves were actually paid by their owner for all their time of work. It wasn't much but they were also provided room and board.
Again, I am not saying slavery was great but it was accepted in the time. What I'm getting at, for any who want to pick at this nit, is why would the black community (or any community) deny the history that is there? Do they want it to actually sound worse than it was?? Jeezus. It was bad enough as it happened.
KC
You're not series, are ya????????