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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on February 08, 2011, 10:21:28 AM
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northoftheborder (820 posts) Tue Feb-08-11 11:07 AM
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Keith supposed to announce this hour. Any news?
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-08-11 11:10 AM
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1. Al Gore just tweeted about it...
"Welcome to Current RT @KeithOlbermann Greetings from Keith Olbermann, Chief News Officer of Current Media! And awayyyyyy we go!"
eShirl (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-08-11 11:11 AM
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3. KO just tweeted about it,too
KeithOlbermann
Greetings from Keith Olbermann, Chief News Officer of Current Media! And awayyyyyy we go! #FOK 11 minutes ago via Twittelator
OMG !! 11 !! one-eleventy, this is series. Think of the powerhouse that these two together will become. They will be a devastating force for the left.
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Rush is going to have a field day with this one.
:-)
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Current TC still exists?
Last time I looked it was nothing but a bunch of kids posting their videos. :lmao:
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They're so cute over there, employing that "whoo hoo" icon. Apparently, Keef will have an equity stake in Current.com. He'll make a fortune!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Current TV?
Doesn't that channel that shows a fireplace all the time get higher ratings than them?
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I thought Current was the gay network. Oh, wait...it is....just not that kind of gay.
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From another thread on this topic.
monmouth (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-08-11 12:11 PM
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I suspect and also hope heads will explode at the major media
outlets when Keith starts his gig at Current. This low on the rung outlet could hit the charts big time with Keith. He has a huge following and I for one will not miss it. I would love, love I tell ya, to see MSNBC, Faux and CNN be outnumbered by Keith in his time slot. I'm hoping for two shows or one and with a repeat. Go Current!!
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-08-11 12:11 PM
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I suspect and also hope heads will explode at the major media
outlets when Keith starts his gig at Current. This low on the rung outlet could hit the charts big time with Keith. He has a huge following and I for one will not miss it. I would love, love I tell ya, to see MSNBC, Faux and CNN be outnumbered by Keith in his time slot. I'm hoping for two shows or one and with a repeat. Go Current!!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Now that's funny, right there! UberDork was last in line before! Now he's headed to obscurity! One more year and he will dissolve completely!
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I suspect and also hope heads will explode at the major media
outlets when Keith starts his gig at Current. This low on the rung outlet could hit the charts big time with Keith. He has a huge following and I for one will not miss it. I would love, love I tell ya, to see MSNBC, Faux and CNN be outnumbered by Keith in his time slot.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rotf: :lmao: :lmao: :rotf:
Keep dreaming DUmmies. A test pattern will get better ratings than Keef's show on CurrentTV. Most people don't get it or can't find the damn channel.
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Keith who?
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Most people don't get it or can't find the damn channel.
The vast, vast majority either haven't heard of it, or if they have, won't even try to find it. The tiny clique of moonbats who watch PMSNBC is an enormous audience compared to Algore's money pit.
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Oh my, how embarrassing!
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Keef :loser: gets to be a big turd in a small bowl, which is important to him. At MSNBC his status as bull goose and godfather for the lesser talents was a big ego-stroke.
It's worth looking at the fact that Keef :loser: moved from one Comcast holding (MSNBC) to another (Comcast owns 10% of Current TV).
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Keef :loser: gets to be a big turd in a small bowl, which is important to him. At MSNBC his status as bull goose and godfather for the lesser talents was a big ego-stroke.
It's worth looking at the fact that Keef :loser: moved from one Comcast holding (MSNBC) to another (Comcast owns 10% of Current TV).
Which begs the question, which is better, a small turd in a big bowl? or a big turd in a small bowl? :???:
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The vast, vast majority either haven't heard of it, or if they have, won't even try to find it. The tiny clique of moonbats who watch PMSNBC is an enormous audience compared to Algore's money pit.
"Current" is not even available on my (Comcast) cable system, or in my satellite package, and there is some pretty obscure stuff in that. The press release stated that "Current" is only available to 75 million TV households, which is only about 2/3rds of the total US.
Unless a "network" is broadcast over-the-air (falls under the "Must Carry" FCC regulations), below a certain level of viewership, the network has to actually PAY the cable or satellite carrier to put them on......and those fees are quite heavy, particularly in the top thirty Nielsen markets.
I doubt that KO will even move the needle for Current......his ratings at MSNBC ran consistently under a million per night.......on Current he'll be lucky if he can hit 100k......the threshold for the TV ratings system STARTS at 300k. A shows Nielsen numbers (or lack thereof) drives the "rate card", which is the price the network can charge for advertising on the show. A "One-share" which was KO's average numbers at MSNBC mean that a 30 second spot will sell for around a grand apiece....... A "point 3" share which represents about the max that KO can generate on "Current" will mean a price of about $100 for the same 30-second spot.......meaning his advertisers (if there are any) will likely be your local "Gutter Helmet" company.
doc
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It's worth looking at the fact that Keef :loser: moved from one Comcast holding (MSNBC) to another (Comcast owns 10% of Current TV).
Yes, this is interesting. H5 for the tip.
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The last time I saw Current was on Time-Warner in North Carolina (Raleigh), but that was many years ago. They could have dropped it by now.
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The last time I saw Current was on Time-Warner in North Carolina (Raleigh), but that was many years ago. They could have dropped it by now.
It's on my DishNetwork but I have a lock on it. Don't want to even mistakenly click it! Talk about some real MoonBat crap!
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I did the same with MSNBC :rofl:
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Which begs the question, which is better, a small turd in a big bowl? or a big turd in a small bowl? :???:
Depends on how many times you have to go at it with a coat hangar before it flushes.
:-)
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Can Current afford Keef's $7 million salary?
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Can Current afford Keef's $7 million salary?
Sure they can! Al, "it will never snow again", Gore, will just sell some more "carbon" credits to his rich followers in HollyWierd!
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deminks (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-08-11 01:59 PM
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4. A Message from Keith Olbermann
Edited on Tue Feb-08-11 02:00 PM by deminks
Nothing is more vital to a free America than a free media, and nothing is more vital to my concept of a free media than news produced independently of corporate interference. In Current Media, Al Gore and Joel Hyatt have created the model truth-seeking entity. The opportunity to partner with Al, Joel and Mark Rosenthal makes this the most exciting venture in my career.
- Current Media press release quoting Keith Olbermann
http://current.com/keith-olbermann/
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No corporate influence means no need to worry about ratings. Something tells me that local access channels on basic cable will draw higher ratings than Queef. Think Wayne's World for public access TV.
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No corporate influence means no need to worry about ratings. Something tells me that local access channels on basic cable will draw higher ratings than Queef. Think Wayne's World for public access TV.
Think "Air America", with video..........
doc
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Can Current afford Keef's $7 million salary?
He was making $7 mil a year? With those miserable ratings? I wonder what Fox pays O'Reilly/Hannity and the scientologist?
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He was making $7 mil a year? With those miserable ratings? I wonder what Fox pays O'Reilly/Hannity and the scientologist?
Hell, AOL just paid 315 mil for the Huffington Puffington! I guess the sky's the limit when it comes to media!
Seriously, 315 mil for a left wing nutfest?????????
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$7 mill is chickenfeed compared to the loot Algore is raking in from his global warming scam.
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OMG this is going to be huge for Current TV. Their ratings might increase 10-fold.
Playinghardball (56 posts) Tue Feb-08-11 02:19 PM
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Keith Olbermann Could Boost Ratings for Current TV Tenfold: Analyst
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
The channel’s current average primetime viewership draws about 23,000.
Industry analysts on Tuesday said the addition of Keith Olbermann will help put Current TV on the map in terms of programming, ratings and increased carriage opportunities.
Wunderlich Securities analyst Matthew Harrigan predicted that Olbermann's return to the TV screen would mean "a huge impact on ratings" at the network. He estimated that the current average primetime viewership in the 20,000-30,000 range could multiply ten-fold or even more. "Keith Olbermann obviously was the man who made MSNBC, and he has got a very loyal audience," Harrigan said. "This is huge for Current."
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Let me get this straight. Current TV is available in almost 60 million homes in the US, but only 20-30k watch it? :thatsright: What a waste of money. If they accept no advertising, then that means they are paying to be carried. Someone, Al Gore, must really believe in the power of propaganda.
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$7 mill is chickenfeed compared to the loot Algore is raking in from his global warming scam.
Err....actually that went "Tango Uniform" last year.........
doc
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OMG this is going to be huge for Current TV. Their ratings might increase 10-fold.
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Let me get this straight. Current TV is available in almost 60 million homes in the US, but only 20-30k watch it?
Let's see........just for comparison purposes based on the Nielsen overnight report, more people here in Kansas City alone were watching Home Shopping Network at midnight last night, than watch Current TV in "prime time" in the entire US?!?!
:rotf: :rotf:
doc
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Think "Air America", with video..........
doc
I turned on Current today just for laughs. It's more like YouTube except you don't get to select which videos are playing.
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DirecTV doesn't carry it. Maybe I should write and demand they do. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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DirecTV doesn't carry it. Maybe I should write and demand they do. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Yeah, Current actually is on DirecTV. Channel 358 or something. In between Fox News & MSNBC. But far off in kook-ville.
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-08-11 03:42 PM
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18. The intellect of Keith's viewers is pretty high, everyone will find the new channel.
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-08-11 03:42 PM
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18. The intellect of Keith's viewers is pretty high, everyone will find the new channel.
Oh for cryin' out loud! Is this DUmmie series??????????? You could put the combined intelligence of UberDork and all his followers in a stinkin' thimble!
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Keef on algore's channel reminds me of that old question about what happens when a tree falls in the center of a forest. In Keef's case, the answer is clearly, "No one."
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He could maybe get some no name radio advertisements. Just a black screen with a bit of audio. :lmao: The fringe left all have their reusable diapers, and assorted other "environmentally friendly" other crap they can sell on his timeslot.
I've never even heard of "Current" until this thread, and I WON'T go looking. Unless my absolute unadulterated curiosity gets the best of me...
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Its a ploy by Comcast to make all of you television hating primitives get hooked up again.
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He could maybe get some no name radio advertisements. Just a black screen with a bit of audio. :lmao: The fringe left all have their reusable diapers, and assorted other "environmentally friendly" other crap they can sell on his timeslot.
I've never even heard of "Current" until this thread, and I WON'T go looking. Unless my absolute unadulterated curiosity gets the best of me...
Trust me, ya won't miss a damn thing! Ever heard of "Democracy Now"? They're a regular, so ya get the idea of their programming!
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Trust me, ya won't miss a damn thing! Ever heard of "Democracy Now"? They're a regular, so ya get the idea of their programming!
Im sure Slobberman will be right at home on CUrreNT TV.
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This is from another thread on the subject.
Playinghardball (57 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-08-11 02:19 PM
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Keith Olbermann Could Boost Ratings for Current TV Tenfold: Analyst
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
The channel’s current average primetime viewership draws about 23,000.
Industry analysts on Tuesday said the addition of Keith Olbermann will help put Current TV on the map in terms of programming, ratings and increased carriage opportunities.
Wunderlich Securities analyst Matthew Harrigan predicted that Olbermann's return to the TV screen would mean "a huge impact on ratings" at the network. He estimated that the current average primetime viewership in the 20,000-30,000 range could multiply ten-fold or even more. "Keith Olbermann obviously was the man who made MSNBC, and he has got a very loyal audience," Harrigan said. "This is huge for Current."
Read more at: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/keith-olbermann-b...
So they have about the same viewer numbers as most community college stations.
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OMG !! 11 !! one-eleventy, this is series. Think of the powerhouse that these two together will become. They will be a devastating force for the left.
All that remains to fill the Three Stooges of irrelevant liberal liars is Randi Rhodes.
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This is from another thread on the subject.
So they have about the same viewer numbers as most community college stations.
We'll see, but I doubt after the initial offering they ever get beyond 100,000. Not exactly enough to keep one in business. If it weren't for AlGore stealin' money from those, shall we say, less than retarded, this station would have gone tits up a long time ago.
But what the hey, anything that diminishes Al's checkbook is music to my ears! The Sum bitch never earned an honest dollar in his entire life!
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Which begs the question, which is better, a small turd in a big bowl? or a big turd in a small bowl? :???:
Regardless the girth of a turd, ya still can't polish it.
Ya can't polish Quief...
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I've never heard of Current TV either.
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Regardless the girth of a turd, ya still can't polish it.
Ya can't polish Quief...
Well, if it's any consolation, at least he's in the sewer where he belongs!
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Chief News Officer. :mental:
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Its a ploy by Comcast to make all of you television hating primitives get hooked up again.
Close. But is it really coincidence that the highest rated show on PMSNBC is yanked and the host is relegated to some channel no one has heard of and is on a higher tier on premium cable? The DUmmies hate Comcast, yet now they are going to give them more money just to watch Queef again.
It makes me wonder if Rove is pulling the strings at Comcast.
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Close. But is it really coincidence that the highest rated show on PMSNBC is yanked and the host is relegated to some channel no one has heard of and is on a higher tier on premium cable? The DUmmies hate Comcast, yet now they are going to give them more money just to watch Queef again.
It makes me wonder if Rove is pulling the strings at Comcast.
The Lord Rove will not be happy you have come close to blowin' his cover!
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Close. But is it really coincidence that the highest rated show on PMSNBC is yanked and the host is relegated to some channel no one has heard of and is on a higher tier on premium cable? The DUmmies hate Comcast, yet now they are going to give them more money just to watch Queef again.
It makes me wonder if Rove is pulling the strings at Comcast.
Correct - no more basic cable if you wanna see Kweef live.. Time to dip into the emergency weed & Cheetos fund.
What are you waiting for primitives ? Comcast's shareholders need an economic stimulus.
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Current TV?
Doesn't that channel that shows a fireplace all the time get higher ratings than them?
I'm with you. I didn't think it was still on the air. I don't know, I blocked it off my DirecTV channel list 5 years ago, along with LOGO, PBS, NBA, NHL, and MLS. I'm thinking about blocking SPEED, since they show about EVERYTHING EXCEPT RACING! :argh:
But then again, MTV (MUSIC Television) shows about everything (sometimes literally) except music, and CMT is heading in the same direction.
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I had to look and right now is a show about Chavez.
It shows a group of 5 or 6 people living in squalor on a "cooperative" that hasn`t produced one bit of produce in 5 years and they are saying Chavez gives them a sense of value and the ability to grow food.
It is like DUmmy TV. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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I had to look and right now is a show about Chavez.
It shows a group of 5 or 6 people living in squalor on a "cooperative" that hasn`t produced one bit of produce in 5 years and they are saying Chavez gives them a sense of value and the ability to grow food.
It is like DUmmy TV. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Help me out here, I have lived a long time with an antenna on the roof or rabbit ears on top of the TV to receive reception. No one knew what I was watching, or what the intire neighborhood was or not watching, or State for that matter. Same with radio, buy the divice and listen to what you wish and who is to know. Something called the Neilson ratings came along, 20,000 family's country wide agreed to be tracked and if those few people did not like a program then off the air it went.
Along came cable and now what you watch can be tracked by the cable company. From your home or work site.
Then there came up some thing about Digital or something that would make older perfectally working TV unable to operate without cable or roof top antennas without some kind of converter box one could in some cases get free from some government site.
What about radio now, how does the station or advertisers know just how many people are tuning in to them every day???
Is this a convenience for us or spying to find our soft spot to spend money.?
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Help me out here, I have lived a long time with an antenna on the roof or rabbit ears on top of the TV to receive reception. No one knew what I was watching, or what the intire neighborhood was or not watching, or State for that matter. Same with radio, buy the divice and listen to what you wish and who is to know. Something called the Neilson ratings came along, 20,000 family's country wide agreed to be tracked and if those few people did not like a program then off the air it went.
Along came cable and now what you watch can be tracked by the cable company. From your home or work site.
Then there came up some thing about Digital or something that would make older perfectally working TV unable to operate without cable or roof top antennas without some kind of converter box one could in some cases get free from some government site.
What about radio now, how does the station or advertisers know just how many people are tuning in to them every day???
Is this a convenience for us or spying to find our soft spot to spend money.?
Here ya go. :tinfoil2: :tinfoil2: :tinfoil2: :tinfoil2: :tinfoil2: :tinfoil2:
Better now?
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Help me out here, I have lived a long time with an antenna on the roof or rabbit ears on top of the TV to receive reception. No one knew what I was watching, or what the intire neighborhood was or not watching, or State for that matter. Same with radio, buy the divice and listen to what you wish and who is to know. Something called the Neilson ratings came along, 20,000 family's country wide agreed to be tracked and if those few people did not like a program then off the air it went.
Along came cable and now what you watch can be tracked by the cable company. From your home or work site.
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Vesta......your cable company does not have the capability to know what you watch.
Audience measurements for television are done by a company called Nielsen.......the way that they measure audiences is that people (viewers) volunteer to have a "Nielsen meter" placed on their TV, and the meter tracks what that TV only is tuned to at any particular time. It's a "random sample" of the audience that have the meters installed.
Much like political "polls", the audience statistics are drawn form this random sample of viewers that have a meter installed. It doesn't matter whether you receive your signal from an antenna, cable, or satellite, the "meter" interacts with your TV receiver, and logs the programming that the family watches. A phone line is plugged into the Nielsen meter, and it "reports" its accumulated data by dialing a toll-free number and uploading it in the middle of the night, after the TV set has been turned off. It is all done with the participation of the family involved.
A different company (Arbitron) and procedure (manual logs) is used to develop radio ratings, but they too, are based on a random sampling of the audience.
doc
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Vesta......your cable company does not have the capability to know what you watch.
Audience measurements for television are done by a company called Nielsen, the way that they measure audiences is that people (viewers) volunteer to have a "Nielsen meter" placed on their TV, and the meter tracks what that TV only is tuned to at any particular time. It's a "random sample" of the audience that have the meters installed.
Much like political "polls", the audience statistics are drawn form this random sample of viewers that have a meter installed. It doesn't matter whether you receive your signal from an antenna, cable, or satellite, the "meter" interacts with your TV receiver, and logs the programming that the family watches. A phone line is plugged into the Nielsen meter, and it "reports" its accumulated data by dialing a toll-free number and uploading it in the middle of the night, after the TV set has been turned off. It is all done with the participation of the family involved.
A different company and procedure is used to develop radio ratings, but they too, are based on a random sampling of the audience.
doc
I wouldn't be too sure that the cable companies don't know what you're watching. When we went back to cable from satellite and had some problems, I called Comcast, and during the trouble shooting process, the woman I was talking had full control of both cable boxes. Now whether they would be set up to monitor every one all the time might be a different matter.
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I wouldn't be too sure that the cable companies don't know what you're watching. When we went back to cable from satellite and had some problems, I called Comcast, and during the trouble shooting process, the woman I was talking had full control of both cable boxes. Now whether they would be set up to monitor every one all the time might be a different matter.
Yeah, cable and satellite can be tracked. How else could ya get Pay Per View? My satellite receiver has a place for a phone line. If you're not plugged in, no pay per view. The receiver dials up the provider sometime in the middle of the night and downloads it's info back to the office. I know this because when I was writin' bonds, the damn thing would tie my phone up for about ten minutes around 3 in the mornin'.
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I wouldn't be too sure that the cable companies don't know what you're watching. When we went back to cable from satellite and had some problems, I called Comcast, and during the trouble shooting process, the woman I was talking had full control of both cable boxes. Now whether they would be set up to monitor every one all the time might be a different matter.
Although cable (and satellite) companies have that capability for diagnostic purposes, AR is correct inasmuch as it can only be done through a phone connection for the return path. Therefore, without tying up your phone line, it isn't done. They have the capability to "see" and issue commands to the chipset in a cable box, but there is nowhere in the box to actually store viewer use data.
Most cable companies don't have the electronic sophistication to provide dependable ongoing service, let alone monitoring their subscribers. I've been a number of cable "head-ends" as well as their master control facilities, and they simply are not that "high tech".
AT&T's "Uverse" system, which is delivering digital video on demand over "twisted pair" phone lines could possibly incorporate this ability.......in order to provide "programming on demand" assumes a return path for user data, but that would be the only current system with that ability.
doc
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"Queef Olberdork slides farther into irrelevance"
As if 'Farther' was really possible at this point...
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Although cable (and satellite) companies have that capability for diagnostic purposes, AR is correct inasmuch as it can only be done through a phone connection for the return path. Therefore, without tying up your phone line, it isn't done. They have the capability to "see" and issue commands to the chipset in a cable box, but there is nowhere in the box to actually store viewer use data.
Most cable companies don't have the electronic sophistication to provide dependable ongoing service, let alone monitoring their subscribers. I've been a number of cable "head-ends" as well as their master control facilities, and they simply are not that "high tech".
AT&T's "Uverse" system, which is delivering digital video on demand over "twisted pair" phone lines could possibly incorporate this ability.......in order to provide "programming on demand" assumes a return path for user data, but that would be the only current system with that ability.
doc
I believe all the Broadband services that bundle their stuff together have the ability. Oh, and my receiver has the ability to store data. When we went to straight cell phone and got rid of the land line, one receiver still had 2 pay per view movies on it that didn't get uploaded to the office. They're still there and I have never seen them on the bill. So satellite has the ability to store info but without the land line it has no way of reporting it.
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I believe all the Broadband services that bundle their stuff together have the ability. Oh, and my receiver has the ability to store data. When we went to straight cell phone and got rid of the land line, one receiver still had 2 pay per view movies on it that didn't get uploaded to the office. They're still there and I have never seen them on the bill. So satellite has the ability to store info but without the land line it has no way of reporting it.
True, a two-way continuous path is required. Your satellite receiver has the ability to store a few kB of data for pay services billing, but nowhere near the capacity to store viewer history. I use Dish Network,, and you can get into the diagnostics and setup menus and see the system RAM. In my receiver it is only 15 kB.
Interactive TV is just being rolled out, and THAT includes a two-way path (i.e. UVerse), which incorporates technology similiar to T3/dsl to transmit streaming (and stored) video (both ways), but this technology is just coming on line. Even with the capability, one would question WHY a provider would want that info on an ongoing basis. With systems like UVerse, they KNOW what you are watching, because only one (or two, depending on how many receivers are in use) data streams (channels) are sent to your receiver at a time. Far less bandwidth required to accomplish it this way than the old system of always having every channel available at the same time at the back of your TV receiver.
Digital cable, even bundled with VIOP and internet access uses a different system, which is rapidly being obsoleted by the interactive one.
This is an interesting subject, but it's off-topic for the thread......if someone wishes to continue we can start another thread.
doc
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Hey Doc, I started a thread in the Science Room if ya wanna continue this. I've gots a few more comments on this.
Follow me over if ya wanna put yer 2¢ in........ Here's the link....Big Brothjer and Your Cable/Satellite TV... (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,55231.0.html)
See ya there!