undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 09:44 PM
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why furry is a GBLT issue.
Furry is not simply a fetish,for many furs it is an IDENTITY.
I am feline inside and if anyone can't handle it,****'em. I'll give them my claw to their face if they get violent with me.
Ever bother to ask yourself...What is an identity anyway?
http://www.unknownnews.net/040227a-panther.html
Everyone gets a fake identity(ies) IMPOSED upon us from childhood on,from sick parents,a sick society. Most people change who they are in thier lifetimes.. some may try to make due with what they are given, others accept it with suffering and will take pains to deny or hide it, and some who are creative or just can't deal with that level of fake can't tolerate such stifling imposed social roles..They will invent their own damn identity.And no, my imagination is part of who I am and I will be who I am it is me and I am it..I will be feline and re-create myself as I a see fit and I will be happy in the way that works for ME.Regardless of whom may label it sick or claim fur is not a legitimate identity. I will be feline.That sort of bigotry is aimed at anyone who strays from the stifling sickening social norm.
An so, if you do not like the idea a person sees them self as different or more than human, more than the biological determined DNA their parents gave them, and social roles meted out like prefab social cages put on all children so they become 'productive normal adults'...So what is the big deal to you if one sees themselves differently than you think is legit? Are furries ruining your life by being different,and being whatever species they are inside and looking like that being? Doesn't that complaint of the fur bigots sound so familiar to every gay,trans person on earth?? And because the bigotry is aimed at those with a furry identity somehow that isn't bigoted to them? WTF? Bigotry always has the same ugly preferences.
http://www.unknownnews.net/040131d-up.html
Why scorn furries? If you are gay you are aware you are transgressing the silly heterosexual sex roles enforced by this sick culture, in order to be yourself and love whom you love.So why have issues with furries for?? Furries are doing the same thing as any social transgressor sickened by the banal limits society imposes upon us all.. does.. If you are transgender you are transgressing the silly dual gender roles made up by this sick society, and you feel the bigots stinging words and fists..Furries are doing this transgressing all 'deviants' from the 'norms' do in their own way.if you are furry you are transgressing the sickness of a human centered anthropocentric society,and a social transgressor will have to re-build an identity based upon the beings you love and relate to on a deep level..It is the path to liberation.WE all seek liberation.Some seek it as non human.
I am transgender bi,asexual and furry. My identity is my own creation .
I find in my life,felines embody the noble qualities I admire. Things I do not often see in humans.So I wish to be like them because to me cats are the best friends there are,and they are most beautiful to me.My tattoos and feline appearance is a homage to them,and my felineness is a spiritual,and very real thing to me..And I feel happy with my fur flying wherever I wander.. and I spit upon those who would rather me be something else than what I want to be,and deny me what makes me happy.
Humanity often makes me sick inside.I do not like feeling sick. So I reject society , reject my gender role, the sexuality I was born in and I reject the human species,I reject everything that I find to me is toxic . And so I rebel against all the stupid mental/emotional/physical cages .Many of these traps exist to please someone else, a parent, the community,the school,or to make the insecure people out there feel safe or in control,or to soothe the savage ego trip of the anthro-centric asshole... I admit it there is alot I hate about the human world and this sick culture. The injury it causes me so I do not want to be part of it. And so, I walk away from it in my own way.And I found other furries others who also walk beside me outside the wall.
Every time a person transgresses a popular cultural lie,or 'role' there is backlash aimed at them.. My soul is feline,and to walk among people as a human it hurts me just as much as being in a female body (modified partly thankfully) with a male mind hurts me, Because for me, furry is an IDENTITY. I have had enough of bowing in to the pain and pressure of superficial social conformity,I am what I want to be.. Any controversy my fur creates does not matter to me anymore.I see it as the bigotry it is.
Any people who cannot handle the furries.. maybe they need to grow up and let other people find what and who they are and want to be inside and quit the control and bigoted bullshit. Nobody likes to be forced into a self image that is false..
Everyone has a right to find what gives them happiness in this miserable world if it respects others consent. Truth is everyone has an identity, you can take what is given to you or build your own..Furries build their own,and in this world you would be wise to embrace beauty wherever you can find it, for this world can be very cold,evil, ugly and sick to the most beautiful and tender things. Embrace the beauty even if the beauty exists mostly in the imaginal realm..it has a right to be here too.
My furry persona.
~: "The truth shall set you free. But first it will make you miserable."~"Thou shall not be a victim, thou shall not be a perpetrator, and above all, thou shall not be a bystander" ~ We are imprisoned in a dream of our leaders' making and it is killing us. ~~" The revolution will not be Lobotomized."~
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I have no idea what a furry is, or why being one is a GLBT issue. :mental: :mental:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom
Differing approaches to sexuality have been a source of controversy and conflict in furry fandom. Examples of mainstream sexual aspects within furry fandom include erotic art, a style known as yiffy art (from the subculture term "yiff" referring to sexual activity or arousal), and furry-themed cybersex.[35][36] According to The Pitch, examples of present usage of the word yiff include "a yiffy fur", meaning a furry who is sexually aroused or active, "yiffy artwork", meaning sexually explicit furry artwork, and "to yiff", meaning to have sex.[37] Yiffy art often depicts humanoid animals in poses and outfits similar to those in standard erotic art.
The term yiff is most commonly used to indicate sexual activity or material.[38] This applies to sexual activity and interaction within the subculture whether online or offline; it is also applied to sexual arousal and to erotic material causing it.[39] A common explanation offered for the etymology of the term within the subculture is that it is an onomatopoeia for the sound foxes make when mating.[40] Efforts to identify the origin of the term suggest that it was a term in "Foxish" (a language invented circa 1990 by a FurryMUCK participant) that originally was meant as an expression of happiness but over time and through popular usage came to acquire the sexual connotation now commonly associated with the term.[41]
In cybersex, also known as "TinySex" and "TextSex", yiffing is the act in which one or more players engage in the interactive writing of erotica, describing their "tinybodies" or fursonas engaged in sexual activities.[42]
The term furvert (a portmanteau of "furry" and "pervert") specifically refers to the subgroup of the fandom that sexualizes anthropomorphic animal characters.[43] Similar to the word queer in homosexual culture, the term furvert may be used pejoratively, as a self-referential joke, or merely as a descriptor
I have to ask, honestly, What the **** is a furry?
And no, my imagination is part of who I am and I will be who I am it is me and I am it..I will be feline and re-create myself as I a see fit and I will be happy in the way that works for ME.Regardless of whom may label it sick or claim fur is not a legitimate identity. I will be feline.
QuoteAnd no, my imagination is part of who I am and I will be who I am it is me and I am it..I will be feline and re-create myself as I a see fit and I will be happy in the way that works for ME.Regardless of whom may label it sick or claim fur is not a legitimate identity. I will be feline.
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Would someone please, PLEASE trap and neuter that bitch?
QuoteAnd no, my imagination is part of who I am and I will be who I am it is me and I am it..I will be feline and re-create myself as I a see fit and I will be happy in the way that works for ME.Regardless of whom may label it sick or claim fur is not a legitimate identity. I will be feline.
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Would someone please, PLEASE trap and neuter that bitch?
This is the funniest shit I've read in a long time. :lmao: :rotf: :loser:See here: http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=5365.0Quoteundergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 09:44 PM
Original message
why furry is a GBLT issue.
Furry is not simply a fetish,for many furs it is an IDENTITY.
I am feline inside and if anyone can't handle it,****'em. I'll give them my claw to their face if they get violent with me.
Ever bother to ask yourself...What is an identity anyway?
http://www.unknownnews.net/040227a-panther.html
Everyone gets a fake identity(ies) IMPOSED upon us from childhood on,from sick parents,a sick society. Most people change who they are in thier lifetimes.. some may try to make due with what they are given, others accept it with suffering and will take pains to deny or hide it, and some who are creative or just can't deal with that level of fake can't tolerate such stifling imposed social roles..They will invent their own damn identity.And no, my imagination is part of who I am and I will be who I am it is me and I am it..I will be feline and re-create myself as I a see fit and I will be happy in the way that works for ME.Regardless of whom may label it sick or claim fur is not a legitimate identity. I will be feline.That sort of bigotry is aimed at anyone who strays from the stifling sickening social norm.
An so, if you do not like the idea a person sees them self as different or more than human, more than the biological determined DNA their parents gave them, and social roles meted out like prefab social cages put on all children so they become 'productive normal adults'...So what is the big deal to you if one sees themselves differently than you think is legit? Are furries ruining your life by being different,and being whatever species they are inside and looking like that being? Doesn't that complaint of the fur bigots sound so familiar to every gay,trans person on earth?? And because the bigotry is aimed at those with a furry identity somehow that isn't bigoted to them? WTF? Bigotry always has the same ugly preferences.
http://www.unknownnews.net/040131d-up.html
Why scorn furries? If you are gay you are aware you are transgressing the silly heterosexual sex roles enforced by this sick culture, in order to be yourself and love whom you love.So why have issues with furries for?? Furries are doing the same thing as any social transgressor sickened by the banal limits society imposes upon us all.. does.. If you are transgender you are transgressing the silly dual gender roles made up by this sick society, and you feel the bigots stinging words and fists..Furries are doing this transgressing all 'deviants' from the 'norms' do in their own way.if you are furry you are transgressing the sickness of a human centered anthropocentric society,and a social transgressor will have to re-build an identity based upon the beings you love and relate to on a deep level..It is the path to liberation.WE all seek liberation.Some seek it as non human.
I am transgender bi,asexual and furry. My identity is my own creation .
I find in my life,felines embody the noble qualities I admire. Things I do not often see in humans.So I wish to be like them because to me cats are the best friends there are,and they are most beautiful to me.My tattoos and feline appearance is a homage to them,and my felineness is a spiritual,and very real thing to me..And I feel happy with my fur flying wherever I wander.. and I spit upon those who would rather me be something else than what I want to be,and deny me what makes me happy.
Humanity often makes me sick inside.I do not like feeling sick. So I reject society , reject my gender role, the sexuality I was born in and I reject the human species,I reject everything that I find to me is toxic . And so I rebel against all the stupid mental/emotional/physical cages .Many of these traps exist to please someone else, a parent, the community,the school,or to make the insecure people out there feel safe or in control,or to soothe the savage ego trip of the anthro-centric asshole... I admit it there is alot I hate about the human world and this sick culture. The injury it causes me so I do not want to be part of it. And so, I walk away from it in my own way.And I found other furries others who also walk beside me outside the wall.
Every time a person transgresses a popular cultural lie,or 'role' there is backlash aimed at them.. My soul is feline,and to walk among people as a human it hurts me just as much as being in a female body (modified partly thankfully) with a male mind hurts me, Because for me, furry is an IDENTITY. I have had enough of bowing in to the pain and pressure of superficial social conformity,I am what I want to be.. Any controversy my fur creates does not matter to me anymore.I see it as the bigotry it is.
Any people who cannot handle the furries.. maybe they need to grow up and let other people find what and who they are and want to be inside and quit the control and bigoted bullshit. Nobody likes to be forced into a self image that is false..
Everyone has a right to find what gives them happiness in this miserable world if it respects others consent. Truth is everyone has an identity, you can take what is given to you or build your own..Furries build their own,and in this world you would be wise to embrace beauty wherever you can find it, for this world can be very cold,evil, ugly and sick to the most beautiful and tender things. Embrace the beauty even if the beauty exists mostly in the imaginal realm..it has a right to be here too.
My furry persona.
~: "The truth shall set you free. But first it will make you miserable."~"Thou shall not be a victim, thou shall not be a perpetrator, and above all, thou shall not be a bystander" ~ We are imprisoned in a dream of our leaders' making and it is killing us. ~~" The revolution will not be Lobotomized."~
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x70717
I have to ask, honestly, What the **** is a furry?
I have 5 cats.
I can tell you with the utmost confidence...cats DO NOT want UPanther as part of THEIR species.
That fruit is victimhood personified.
Oh, and don't bring claws to a gun fight, nutjob.
I wish I had a link to that UP thread from a few years back where she decribed that as a child she would snatch the food from off the family dinner table and run like a cat to her backyard into the bushes and eat. I remember Gern's reaction to that, I thought he was gonna bust a gut.
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QuoteAnd no, my imagination is part of who I am and I will be who I am it is me and I am it..I will be feline and re-create myself as I a see fit and I will be happy in the way that works for ME.Regardless of whom may label it sick or claim fur is not a legitimate identity. I will be feline.
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Would someone please, PLEASE trap and neuter that bitch?
I'm not trapping this........
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff69/JKay3-17/PRETTY.jpg)
UnderGroundPanther
What ever you do don't go and Google up pics for Yiffy.
I am sad to say if you read the thread it appears that CC harbours 2, yes 2, 'furryphobes'. I'm looking at you Lauri and Schade. :-)
I find in my life,felines embody the noble qualities I admire. Things I do not often see in humans.
I have to ask, honestly, What the **** is a furry?
QuoteI find in my life,felines embody the noble qualities I admire. Things I do not often see in humans.
Hairballs?
Cindie
QuoteI find in my life,felines embody the noble qualities I admire. Things I do not often see in humans.
Hairballs?
Cindie
You know, it's not nice to make fun of mentally-ill people, but one must make an exception in the case of the subway cat.
Some months ago, as an aside, the subway cat in a bonfire on Skins's island mentioned that when her pet cat misbehaves, she pents him up in "cage," probably a cat-carrier, one imagines.
Other than infanticide, I cannot imagine anything worse one can do to a living thing.
Dogs are of course trained, and hence usually amenable, to being put into cages, usually when someone is taking them on a trip in the back of a pick-up truck. But dogs are smarter than cats.
Cats on the other hand cannot possibly understand "training" and "discipline," and if pent up, they have absolutely no idea what is going on, and panic. Putting a poor cat in a "cage" teaches no lesson; it merely terrorizes the poor animal, doing absolutely no good at all.
This is why primitives should be forbidden by law to own dogs, cats, birds, and fish; primitives don't know anything about animals, and have them only for purposes of ego.
Sigmund Freud would find much that is interesting, in the way the subway cat treats her pet; some sort of anger-and-"control" mechanism that's way out of whack. If the innocent cat misbehaves, the subway cat, and not the innocent cat, needs be put into a "cage."
I think, really, the subway cat (and others who mistreat animals) deserves to be horse-whipped through the streets of Baltimore, the lash applied promiscuously; horse-whipped through the streets, all of the streets of Baltimore, until she learns something. Horse-whipped with a really big whip.
Decent and civilized people do not make fun of mentally-ill people, but as we all know, there are exceptions to every rule.....
FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-07-08 02:51 AM
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21. My sole point is that 'Furry' is not an LGBT issue as your original post claimed.
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 02:55 AM by FreepFryer
It's good to stand up for self-determination at all costs - and I support the protections of transgendered people's rights as much as any gay or lesbian's.
As another example of the difference between LGBT issues and 'furries', I don't believe that furries have the right to marry outside the human species... but I do believe that a gay person should have the right to marry another gay person.
And since furries are already allowed to marry other furries (if the local laws permit gay or straight marriage) I don't see 'furry marriage' as an LGBT issue.
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-07-08 02:55 AM
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24. yes it is
Furries are fighting for their right to be WHO THEY ARE. Just like the GBLT community is fighting for the right to be who they are.
It comes down to fighting for acceptance and the liberation from social oppression for both GBLT's and furries.
We all are fighting the same battles.
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-07-08 03:02 AM
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27. Furries
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 03:02 AM by undergroundpanther
get beaten up and harassed if they dare express the fur in certain places.Given, yeah,furries can marry... but try being furry at a job, you can be gay at a job, without being fired,sometimes transpeople can be themselves at work ..but a furry? hell no.There are situations that are very fur adverse.
We all face different kinds of bigotry being applied in different places in different ways,that does not mean we don't face bigots.Bigotry always has the same motive to de-legitamize self determination and crush identities. Be it gay,S/M, trans or furry.
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-07-08 03:15 AM
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31. Ok I'd like to not
have to deal with bigots,with having to play human everywhere I go to please stupid people. One fur I knew was a psych major, she got pushed out of her major for admitting she was a wolf in class. She was pressured out by her damn teacher claiming she was 'unstable'.Furs get the mental illness label, even when the fur has no psych history..This is wrong.It's bad enough people with psych histories get delegitamized at every turn, but fur is no more a mental illness than being gay is one.
Furs do face discrimination. It just isn't obvious to people that are not facing fur issues.Furs are very closeted because humanity seems to be so offended that some being human is not tolerable for them,
In my house I live with another feline,and two wolves. I know alot of furry people...
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If I'm reading her correctly, she's asserting that by being a "furry", she is actually the animal in question. The furries mentioned earlier in the thread are humans merely pretending to be cuddly stuffed animals while getting their rocks off.
*I'm going to need some serious therapy after this analysis! LOL!
Prime example of the price we all pay for moral relativism.If I'm reading her correctly, she's asserting that by being a "furry", she is actually the animal in question. The furries mentioned earlier in the thread are humans merely pretending to be cuddly stuffed animals while getting their rocks off.
*I'm going to need some serious therapy after this analysis! LOL!
Well, then again, she does has 4000 f'n enablers.
Prime example of the price we all pay for moral relativism.If I'm reading her correctly, she's asserting that by being a "furry", she is actually the animal in question. The furries mentioned earlier in the thread are humans merely pretending to be cuddly stuffed animals while getting their rocks off.
*I'm going to need some serious therapy after this analysis! LOL!
Well, then again, she does has 4000 f'n enablers.
Quoteundergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-07-08 03:15 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. Ok I'd like to not
have to deal with bigots,with having to play human everywhere I go to please stupid people. One fur I knew was a psych major, she got pushed out of her major for admitting she was a wolf in class. She was pressured out by her damn teacher claiming she was 'unstable'.Furs get the mental illness label, even when the fur has no psych history..This is wrong.It's bad enough people with psych histories get delegitamized at every turn, but fur is no more a mental illness than being gay is one.
Furs do face discrimination. It just isn't obvious to people that are not facing fur issues.Furs are very closeted because humanity seems to be so offended that some being human is not tolerable for them,
In my house I live with another feline,and two wolves. I know alot of furry people...
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Wouldn't the wolf eat the cats?
Prime example of the price we all pay for moral relativism.If I'm reading her correctly, she's asserting that by being a "furry", she is actually the animal in question. The furries mentioned earlier in the thread are humans merely pretending to be cuddly stuffed animals while getting their rocks off.
*I'm going to need some serious therapy after this analysis! LOL!
Well, then again, she does has 4000 f'n enablers.
I wonder if there is any sexual perversion left that isn't trying to explain itself away and acquire a protected status. As far as I'm concerned, living this lifestyle "seriously" is just one half-step away from bestiality and wanting to openly mate with animals. Necrophilia, here we come.
I have to ask, honestly, What the **** is a furry?
Welcome to the Parade of Shame and Eternal Horror! (http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/welcome-parade-shame.php)
SomethingAwful.com is many things, and a friend to furries is not one of them. This is an old article and the video links no longer work, but you really don't want to see these sad, sad people. Oh, and imagine them having teh secks with each other. While wearing those costumes. That's what it's all about. One giant, freaky orgy of swinging mascots.
I have to ask, honestly, What the **** is a furry?
Welcome to the Parade of Shame and Eternal Horror! (http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/welcome-parade-shame.php)
SomethingAwful.com is many things, and a friend to furries is not one of them. This is an old article and the video links no longer work, but you really don't want to see these sad, sad people. Oh, and imagine them having teh secks with each other. While wearing those costumes. That's what it's all about. One giant, freaky orgy of swinging mascots.
I have to ask, honestly, What the **** is a furry?
Welcome to the Parade of Shame and Eternal Horror! (http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/welcome-parade-shame.php)
SomethingAwful.com is many things, and a friend to furries is not one of them. This is an old article and the video links no longer work, but you really don't want to see these sad, sad people. Oh, and imagine them having teh secks with each other. While wearing those costumes. That's what it's all about. One giant, freaky orgy of swinging mascots.
Oh dear God...
on the left or right? :-)
UGP, in her head........
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/mastersangel24/yiffy%20pics-furries/ad37.jpg)Add about 200lbs with a rainbow colored wig and you'll have it. :-) I really wish someone would intervene and have her committed she has gone completely around the bend :(
In real life....
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/Ashley200406/yiffy.jpg)
UGP, in her head........
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/mastersangel24/yiffy%20pics-furries/ad37.jpg)Add about 200lbs with a rainbow colored wig and you'll have it. :-) I really wish someone would intervene and have her committed she has gone completely around the bend :(
In real life....
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/Ashley200406/yiffy.jpg)
The thing that bothers me the most about DU is the fact that they seem to embrace and even celebrate serious mental illness...It seems that it is almost a badge of honor to have one mental illness or another this in turn tells these mentally ill people that they don't need treatment and if the rest of the world would just tolerate them everything would be ok.Alot of them are so far gone they just don't think medication can help. :(Agreed. Even some DUers agree:
I work for workers (551 posts) Mon Apr-07-08 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #35
50. A month ago you were complaining that SSDI wasn't paying you enough to live
and making vague threats of violence unless people agreed to pay you to be homeless. Now you are paying for cosmetic surgery and tattoos?
I suppose I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is real. Everyone else seems to be. I couldn't care less about how you decide to live.
But if this is a(nother) stupid joke making fun of the mentally ill and/or the GLBT community then it's not funny at all.
I've seen that freak on Discovery. Says he's just a regular guy. WTF ever.
have you guys heard of dennis avner?
(http://www.seacoastonline.com/2005news/8_23c.jpg)
(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2005/08/15/2002441502.jpg)
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/images/tv/obsessions/full_denis_avner1.jpg)
It should be illegal to post shit like that. :spork:
I shall now flush my eyes with Chlorox.
RedXIII (458 posts) Tue Apr-08-08 04:35 PM
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65. Can we get this thread locked?
The Freepers are having a field day out of it.
It should be illegal to post shit like that. :spork:
I shall now flush my eyes with Chlorox.
This might feel a bit better: http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=5355.msg64825#msg64825
edit to add this:QuoteRedXIII (458 posts) Tue Apr-08-08 04:35 PM
Response to Original message
65. Can we get this thread locked?
The Freepers are having a field day out of it.
It should be illegal to post shit like that. :spork:
I shall now flush my eyes with Chlorox.
This might feel a bit better: http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=5355.msg64825#msg64825
edit to add this:QuoteRedXIII (458 posts) Tue Apr-08-08 04:35 PM
Response to Original message
65. Can we get this thread locked?
The Freepers are having a field day out of it.
high-five for the eye cleaner. bringing it over here.
(http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/eb/archive/00031/thea_3_31339f.jpg)
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 09:44 PM
Original message
why furry is a GBLT issue.
Furry is not simply a fetish,for many furs it is an IDENTITY.
I am feline inside and if anyone can't handle it,****'em. I'll give them my claw to their face if they get violent with me.
Ever bother to ask yourself...What is an identity anyway?
http://www.unknownnews.net/040227a-panther.html
Everyone gets a fake identity(ies) IMPOSED upon us from childhood on,from sick parents,a sick society. Most people change who they are in thier lifetimes.. some may try to make due with what they are given, others accept it with suffering and will take pains to deny or hide it, and some who are creative or just can't deal with that level of fake can't tolerate such stifling imposed social roles..They will invent their own damn identity.And no, my imagination is part of who I am and I will be who I am it is me and I am it..I will be feline and re-create myself as I a see fit and I will be happy in the way that works for ME.Regardless of whom may label it sick or claim fur is not a legitimate identity. I will be feline.That sort of bigotry is aimed at anyone who strays from the stifling sickening social norm.
Quoteundergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 09:44 PM
Original message
why furry is a GBLT issue.
Furry is not simply a fetish,for many furs it is an IDENTITY.
I am feline inside and if anyone can't handle it,****'em. I'll give them my claw to their face if they get violent with me.
Ever bother to ask yourself...What is an identity anyway?
http://www.unknownnews.net/040227a-panther.html
Everyone gets a fake identity(ies) IMPOSED upon us from childhood on,from sick parents,a sick society. Most people change who they are in thier lifetimes.. some may try to make due with what they are given, others accept it with suffering and will take pains to deny or hide it, and some who are creative or just can't deal with that level of fake can't tolerate such stifling imposed social roles..They will invent their own damn identity.And no, my imagination is part of who I am and I will be who I am it is me and I am it..I will be feline and re-create myself as I a see fit and I will be happy in the way that works for ME.Regardless of whom may label it sick or claim fur is not a legitimate identity. I will be feline.That sort of bigotry is aimed at anyone who strays from the stifling sickening social norm.
Look lady, you don't need to write an essay. I don't give a tinker's dam if you want to pretend to be a cat, or an owl, or an orangtuan, or a dung beetle spending your days rolling shit into little balls. As long as you're not leaving dead mice on my doorstep or clawing at my furniture you can do the Stray Cat Strut all day and I won't call Animal Control. Just don't expect me to subsidize your whisker implants or get all teary if an employer drops your app in the trash cuz you have a face that'll scare paint off a wall. Otherwise, knock yourself out, Fluffy.
It should be illegal to post shit like that. :spork:
I shall now flush my eyes with Chlorox.
This might feel a bit better: http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=5355.msg64825#msg64825
edit to add this:QuoteRedXIII (458 posts) Tue Apr-08-08 04:35 PM
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65. Can we get this thread locked?
The Freepers are having a field day out of it.
It should be illegal to post shit like that. :spork:
I shall now flush my eyes with Chlorox.
This might feel a bit better: http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=5355.msg64825#msg64825
edit to add this:QuoteRedXIII (458 posts) Tue Apr-08-08 04:35 PM
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65. Can we get this thread locked?
The Freepers are having a field day out of it.
high-five for the eye cleaner. bringing it over here.
(http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/eb/archive/00031/thea_3_31339f.jpg)
[quote author=Ralph Wiggum link=topic=5505.msg66578#msg66578
I just did a preliminary search of the DUmp and CU, and couldn't find that thread, USA4ME. I'll see if I have some more time tomorrow.
You guys really don't know what you're talking about in this situation. Trust me, it's scarier than you think.Really? Well why don't you educate us evil repukes then Dr Freud! :whatever: Nice first post btw! :whatever:
It's not limited to liberals. Trust me.
I feel tainted just knowing this shit... :thatsright:
I'm going to hide now....
Really? Well why don't you educate us evil repukes then Dr Freud! :whatever: Nice first post btw! :whatever:
Well then...My apologies to OP :-) Welcome btw :cheersmate: :-) Way too much coffee this am :-)Really? Well why don't you educate us evil repukes then Dr Freud! :whatever: Nice first post btw! :whatever:
He's not a lib, TTT. He's a fellow Admin on USMILNET. :-)
I pointed this thread out to people over there in a GLBT thread.
Well then...My apologies to OP :-) Welcome btw :cheersmate: :-) Way too much coffee this am :-)Really? Well why don't you educate us evil repukes then Dr Freud! :whatever: Nice first post btw! :whatever:
He's not a lib, TTT. He's a fellow Admin on USMILNET. :-)
I pointed this thread out to people over there in a GLBT thread.
Well then...My apologies to OP :-) Welcome btw :cheersmate: :-) Way too much coffee this am :-)Really? Well why don't you educate us evil repukes then Dr Freud! :whatever: Nice first post btw! :whatever:
He's not a lib, TTT. He's a fellow Admin on USMILNET. :-)
I pointed this thread out to people over there in a GLBT thread.
No problem! Now if you only had a thumbs-up smiley here :P
You guys really don't know what you're talking about in this situation. Trust me, it's scarier than you think.
It's not limited to liberals. Trust me.
I feel tainted just knowing this shit... :thatsright:
I'm going to hide now....
BTW, you had a story about this. Care to enlighten us? We've been following this sickass freak for years.
Honestly, I don't know about whom you're discussing. I just have personal experience with a couple of my friends. They're both really good friends, but sometimes they scare me with the stuff they show.
I'll give you a small taste, and if you don't like it I'll stop before I go too far.
Needless to say, I never saw that picture of Care Bears one of them drew. Even he was too embarrassed by it.
Honestly, I don't know about whom you're discussing. I just have personal experience with a couple of my friends. They're both really good friends, but sometimes they scare me with the stuff they show.
I'll give you a small taste, and if you don't like it I'll stop before I go too far.
Needless to say, I never saw that picture of Care Bears one of them drew. Even he was too embarrassed by it.
Did they just like dressing up like bears? Or did they actually "think" they were bears? That's the difference. Both being freakish behavior, one is just on steroids. I.e., that nutjob panther kook.
Oh dear God. I just read the furry thread on TOS. :thatsright:In retrospect maybe nonkultur's pic should have had a spork alert.
Look lady, you don't need to write an essay. I don't give a tinker's dam if you want to pretend to be a cat, or an owl, or an orangtuan, or a dung beetle spending your days rolling shit into little balls. As long as you're not leaving dead mice on my doorstep or clawing at my furniture you can do the Stray Cat Strut all day and I won't call Animal Control. Just don't expect me to subsidize your whisker implants or get all teary if an employer drops your app in the trash cuz you have a face that'll scare paint off a wall. Otherwise, knock yourself out, Fluffy.
Oh dear God. I just read the furry thread on TOS. :thatsright:
You guys really don't know what you're talking about in this situation. Trust me, it's scarier than you think.
It's not limited to liberals. Trust me.
I feel tainted just knowing this shit... :thatsright:
I'm going to hide now....
Here's UGP from her public Photobucket account.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/UPanthera/impsmallest.jpg)
That's one nutty bitch. She's a cat, eh? How in the world could some crazy bitch like that even find a minimum wage job?
That's the typical left for ya folks...
I suggest we throw UGP off a water tower just to see if she lands on her feet. If she makes it, I'll consider her a full fledged feline. Until then she'll just be a goofy bitch.
GAH! You could have given a spork alert!
I suggest we throw UGP off a water tower just to see if she lands on her feet. If she makes it, I'll consider her a full fledged feline. Until then she'll just be a goofy bitch.
:lmao:
UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther:wtf3: :2muchgay:
UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
I'm going to ask her if she'll be my friend. :rofl:
UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
I'm going to ask her if she'll be my friend. :rofl:
I just clicked on the link and I got "Page Cannot Be Found" :lmao:
Gonna put a friend request out there myself :rotf: Is her profile public? :-)UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
I'm going to ask her if she'll be my friend. :rofl:
Gonna put a friend request out there myself :rotf: Is her profile public? :-)UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
I'm going to ask her if she'll be my friend. :rofl:
UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
I'm going to ask her if she'll be my friend. :rofl:
I just clicked on the link and I got "Page Cannot Be Found" :lmao:
UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
I'm going to ask her if she'll be my friend. :rofl:
I just clicked on the link and I got "Page Cannot Be Found" :lmao:
Oh it's there :bawl:
When I get home I'm there! :-)Gonna put a friend request out there myself :rotf: Is her profile public? :-)UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
I'm going to ask her if she'll be my friend. :rofl:
Sweet mother of God...there are pictures... :o
When I get home I'm there! :-)Gonna put a friend request out there myself :rotf: Is her profile public? :-)UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
I'm going to ask her if she'll be my friend. :rofl:
Sweet mother of God...there are pictures... :o
Thanks for reminding me :bawl: :hammer: :-)When I get home I'm there! :-)Gonna put a friend request out there myself :rotf: Is her profile public? :-)UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
I'm going to ask her if she'll be my friend. :rofl:
Sweet mother of God...there are pictures... :o
The kitty awaits you and no, it ain't that kind :lmao:
I was looking at the pictures. My son walked up and said "What is that?" I said "That a is a liberal honey."
Thanks for reminding me :bawl: :hammer: :-)When I get home I'm there! :-)Gonna put a friend request out there myself :rotf: Is her profile public? :-)UGP also has a myspace http://www.myspace.com/undergroundpanther
I'm going to ask her if she'll be my friend. :rofl:
Sweet mother of God...there are pictures... :o
The kitty awaits you and no, it ain't that kind :lmao:
undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 12:55 AM
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121. I am 42
my spine is ****ed I have a feeling old age for me will be a slow painful torturous decline. I hope death takes be before that.
Old age is another one of existences senseless cruelties.
Nature isn't happy just killing everyone that exists one way or another, no, it has to make them get old if they manage to live through natural disasters,abuse,accidents,illnesses,ect..****ing bodies they are a stupid designed thing,nature is sadistic, but impersonally,as if that is any thing to let biology off the hook, We get to decline,break down,grow weaker and fall apart if we manage to not die from something else before than.From the 40's it will only get worse.
I hate this world.I hate the human or more accurately living beings condition here..I hate what existing in this ****ed up reality does to innocent beings that are unfortunate enough to be born. Existing in these frail,ugly, weak,miserable ,vulnerable, doomed flesh bags just sucks..I wish life wasn't filled with so much suffering as children we are vulnerable and not all adults are kind to kids,as teens we are socially tormented by peers,as adults we suffer to exist as old people we just decline and suffer until death. Golden years? MY ASS. There are no golden years in this life.
I hate this world..
I found this gem, on a bonfire that was too large to bring over here:Jesus! She really needs to be in an inpatient mental facility :(Quoteundergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 12:55 AM
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121. I am 42
my spine is ****ed I have a feeling old age for me will be a slow painful torturous decline. I hope death takes be before that.
Old age is another one of existences senseless cruelties.
Nature isn't happy just killing everyone that exists one way or another, no, it has to make them get old if they manage to live through natural disasters,abuse,accidents,illnesses,ect..******* bodies they are a stupid designed thing,nature is sadistic, but impersonally,as if that is any thing to let biology off the hook, We get to decline,break down,grow weaker and fall apart if we manage to not die from something else before than.From the 40's it will only get worse.
I hate this world.I hate the human or more accurately living beings condition here..I hate what existing in this ****ed up reality does to innocent beings that are unfortunate enough to be born. Existing in these frail,ugly, weak,miserable ,vulnerable, doomed flesh bags just sucks..I wish life wasn't filled with so much suffering as children we are vulnerable and not all adults are kind to kids,as teens we are socially tormented by peers,as adults we suffer to exist as old people we just decline and suffer until death. Golden years? MY ASS. There are no golden years in this life.
I hate this world..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3141580
About 7/8ths the way down a page 16 miles long.
That's a lot of rage and anger. Yikes.Dixie if you go to her myspace page it will all become crystal clear :mental:
I was looking at the pictures. My son walked up and said "What is that?" I said "That a is a liberal honey." He said "What is wrong with it?" I said "It thinks it's a cat honey" He says "Well then it is a very weird cat." Spot on boyo!
I tried to talk myself into clicking the link. I think I'm better off not! :-)That's a lot of rage and anger. Yikes.Dixie if you go to her myspace page it will all become crystal clear :mental:
Lets just say....She doesn't like herself and its apparent :-)I tried to talk myself into clicking the link. I think I'm better off not! :-)That's a lot of rage and anger. Yikes.Dixie if you go to her myspace page it will all become crystal clear :mental:
I love my cat. This freakoid is giving cats a bad name. It must be stopped :moron:
And a question...what does Spork Alert mean? :spork: I love the graphic, just don't know the usage.
I love my cat. This freakoid is giving cats a bad name. It must be stopped :moron:It's for when someone posts something so hideous, that if seen you'd want a spork to dig your eyes out to get rid of the image
And a question...what does Spork Alert mean? :spork: I love the graphic, just don't know the usage.
LOL great minds ... :-)I love my cat. This freakoid is giving cats a bad name. It must be stopped :moron:
And a question...what does Spork Alert mean? :spork: I love the graphic, just don't know the usage.
A "spork alert" is when someone posts a really grotesque human being.
Like Helen Thomas, for example.
And of course, the obligatory request to NOT post any pictures of Helen Thomas :-)I love my cat. This freakoid is giving cats a bad name. It must be stopped :moron:
And a question...what does Spork Alert mean? :spork: I love the graphic, just don't know the usage.
A "spork alert" is when someone posts a really grotesque human being.
Like Helen Thomas, for example.
I love my cat. This freakoid is giving cats a bad name. It must be stopped :moron:
And a question...what does Spork Alert mean? :spork: I love the graphic, just don't know the usage.
mondo joe (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-16-08 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #158
170. "You non furred people".
Buzz off.
Furriness isn't a GLBT issue. This is is the GLBT forum.
You can pretend you're anything you want, but it's not a GLBT issue.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-16-08 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #131
160. Intolerant
exclusionary,screaming because he wants to make fur identity less valid than his own particulars. Sad..Maybe he's scared the right wing and the normals will think we are weird and take our rights away? Still got your identity defined and governed by the right wing BillSam? Is this the real reason for such hostility over a discussion? You gotta censor it? WHY? WTF?
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-16-08 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #131
160. Intolerant, exclusionary, screaming because he wants to make fur identity less valid than his own particulars. Sad..Maybe he's scared the right wing and the normals will think we are weird and take our rights away? Still got your identity defined and governed by the right wing BillSam? Is this the real reason for such hostility over a discussion? You gotta censor it? WHY? WTF?
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-16-08 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #131
160. Intolerant
exclusionary,screaming because he wants to make fur identity less valid than his own particulars. Sad..Maybe he's scared the right wing and the normals will think we are weird and take our rights away? Still got your identity defined and governed by the right wing BillSam? Is this the real reason for such hostility over a discussion? You gotta censor it? WHY? WTF?
ROFL! Now if only it weren't so close to the truth!Quoteundergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-16-08 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #131
160. Intolerant
exclusionary,screaming because he wants to make fur identity less valid than his own particulars. Sad..Maybe he's scared the right wing and the normals will think we are weird and take our rights away? Still got your identity defined and governed by the right wing BillSam? Is this the real reason for such hostility over a discussion? You gotta censor it? WHY? WTF?
I'm still trying to wrap my tail around this whole "fur identity" thing. I guess it wouldn't hurt to add another letter...GLBTF. Just add another letter everytime we want to normalize someone's new fetish. Think of the new children's book possibilites: "My Mommy is a Beaver...No, Really!", "My Daddy Was a Girl, But He Likes Being a Tom Cat Better"...and for the middle school set: "Free to Be You! Choosing Your Fur Identity: A Handbook for Teens". But can someone explain to me just why we need to grant special rights to people who want to dress up like Chip n Dale's Rescue Rangers?
Cindie
Absolutely, you are positively scary sometimes delilah. :)ROFL! Now if only it weren't so close to the truth!Quoteundergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-16-08 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #131
160. Intolerant
exclusionary,screaming because he wants to make fur identity less valid than his own particulars. Sad..Maybe he's scared the right wing and the normals will think we are weird and take our rights away? Still got your identity defined and governed by the right wing BillSam? Is this the real reason for such hostility over a discussion? You gotta censor it? WHY? WTF?
I'm still trying to wrap my tail around this whole "fur identity" thing. I guess it wouldn't hurt to add another letter...GLBTF. Just add another letter everytime we want to normalize someone's new fetish. Think of the new children's book possibilites: "My Mommy is a Beaver...No, Really!", "My Daddy Was a Girl, But He Likes Being a Tom Cat Better"...and for the middle school set: "Free to Be You! Choosing Your Fur Identity: A Handbook for Teens". But can someone explain to me just why we need to grant special rights to people who want to dress up like Chip n Dale's Rescue Rangers?
Cindie
Fran Kubelik (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 01:56 PMhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x70717#76179
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188. See how many views this thread has now?
And how people with fewer than 10 posts keep showing up to kick it up to the first page? This wasn't UP's intention, but this thread is being used to mock the GLBT community. Please, can we get a lock or a thread deletion? This is embarrassingly off-topic. Wanting to dress up like or identifying as a different species has nothing whatsoever to do with gay, lesbian, bisexual or transGENDER issues. Nothing.
QuoteFran Kubelik (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 01:56 PMhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x70717#76179
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188. See how many views this thread has now?
And how people with fewer than 10 posts keep showing up to kick it up to the first page? This wasn't UP's intention, but this thread is being used to mock the GLBT community. Please, can we get a lock or a thread deletion? This is embarrassingly off-topic. Wanting to dress up like or identifying as a different species has nothing whatsoever to do with gay, lesbian, bisexual or transGENDER issues. Nothing.
No furry love from Fran.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: About damn time someone over there got a frackin clueQuoteFran Kubelik (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 01:56 PMhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x70717#76179
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188. See how many views this thread has now?
And how people with fewer than 10 posts keep showing up to kick it up to the first page? This wasn't UP's intention, but this thread is being used to mock the GLBT community. Please, can we get a lock or a thread deletion? This is embarrassingly off-topic. Wanting to dress up like or identifying as a different species has nothing whatsoever to do with gay, lesbian, bisexual or transGENDER issues. Nothing.
No furry love from Fran.