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Title: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Chris_ on February 04, 2011, 04:43:05 PM
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The US secretly agreed to give the Russians sensitive information on Britain’s nuclear deterrent to persuade them to sign a key treaty, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

Information about every Trident missile the US supplies to Britain will be given to Russia as part of an arms control deal signed by President Barack Obama next week.

Defence analysts claim the agreement risks undermining Britain’s policy of refusing to confirm the exact size of its nuclear arsenal.

The fact that the Americans used British nuclear secrets as a bargaining chip also sheds new light on the so-called “special relationship”, which is shown often to be a one-sided affair by US diplomatic communications obtained by the WikiLeaks website.

UK Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8304654/WikiLeaks-cables-US-agrees-to-tell-Russia-Britains-nuclear-secrets.html#)


So Barry got his 30 pieces of silver for selling out another ally.  Congratualtions, Mr. President.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 04, 2011, 04:46:49 PM
Thanks, Obama.

Way to shit on our friends.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: cavegal on February 04, 2011, 04:55:06 PM
 :banghead: The Friday news dump. Although the left will think this is wonderful. LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD.....SOCIAL JUSTICE.... :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: IassaFTots on February 04, 2011, 04:56:16 PM
Thanks, Obama.

Way to shit on our friends.

Britain has been defriended.  
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 04, 2011, 04:57:35 PM
Britain has been defriended. 

I still like them.  They have cute accents.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DefiantSix on February 04, 2011, 05:01:16 PM
Barry Big-ears has had it in for Britain since LOOOONG before he was Immaculated.  I can't believe that any thinking, rational human being can expect that he would do any differently than he has.

Unfortunately, once we can get Lord ObeyWon out of office, it's going to take DECADES to repair relations with our allies.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Attero Dominatus on February 04, 2011, 05:01:42 PM
FUBO  :argh:

Next he will reveal the detail of Israel's nuclear capabilities to Iran and newly Shariafied Egypt.  :censored:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 04, 2011, 05:05:07 PM
  SAY WHAT!!!!!!!! 

Can I kick his ass now?
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 04, 2011, 05:07:22 PM
This article said it was obtained through wikileaks.  Is anyone sure that wikileaks hasn't been altering the truth?  That dude hates America and I wouldn't put it past him to alter facts just to hurt us.  I don't know if he did, but I also don't know if he didn't.  I don't trust anything from wikileaks until it is verified.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: zeitgeist on February 04, 2011, 05:09:48 PM
Barry Big-ears has had it in for Britain since LOOOONG before he was Immaculated.  I can't believe that any thinking, rational human being can expect that he would do any differently than he has.

Unfortunately, once we can get Lord ObeyWon out of office, it's going to take DECADES to repair relations with our allies.

At the risk of a dummyesque post, doesn't it have something to do with his daddy? 
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Thor on February 04, 2011, 05:33:14 PM
Way to go 0bamao....... alienating our allies.......
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DefiantSix on February 04, 2011, 05:35:29 PM
At the risk of a dummyesque post, doesn't it have something to do with his daddy? 

Yes.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 04, 2011, 05:40:21 PM
Jesus F. Christ, WTF???

 :censored:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Mr Mannn on February 04, 2011, 05:42:40 PM
Obama is bound and determined that no one will ever trust us again.

Even if a trust worthy president gets into office, our allies will know they are only one democrat away from being stabbed in the back again.

This is deliberate. Who will ally with us in future wars if we cannot be trusted?

If its not deliberate, and Obama is embarrassed...then he will be the one to send death squads after the Wiki people.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: formerlurker on February 04, 2011, 05:43:14 PM
He did WHAT???????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are you  :censored: kidding me right now?????
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: formerlurker on February 04, 2011, 05:49:43 PM
For those who were on the fence that this man is the worst president this country has ever had -- well this should clear that right up for you. 

There is no recovering from this.   This man should step down from office.  The total bastard.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Texacon on February 04, 2011, 05:59:01 PM
This was on one of those satire sites right??  OMG please tell me this is satire.

KC
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 04, 2011, 06:03:00 PM
This was on one of those satire sites right??  OMG please tell me this is satire.

KC

What is satire this week is news that was ahead of the curve next week.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 04, 2011, 06:08:01 PM
Obama is the dumbest potato to ever inhabit the Oval Office.  How could so many be fooled by "hope and change?"
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 04, 2011, 06:09:17 PM
For those who were on the fence that this man is the worst president this country has ever had -- well this should clear that right up for you. 

There is no recovering from this.   This man should step down from office.  The total bastard.
Juan McCainez still likes him.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Gina on February 04, 2011, 06:24:06 PM
I still like them.  They have cute accents.

in my best brit accent

"care to smoke a fag?" :naughty:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on February 04, 2011, 06:30:33 PM
This article said it was obtained through wikileaks.  Is anyone sure that wikileaks hasn't been altering the truth?  That dude hates America and I wouldn't put it past him to alter facts just to hurt us.  I don't know if he did, but I also don't know if he didn't.  I don't trust anything from wikileaks until it is verified.

I can't help but think the Telegraph already considered that option.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Ballygrl on February 04, 2011, 06:39:47 PM
This is unbelievable! and I'll say here what I said in the shoutbox, where the hell are the Republicans? :banghead:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Gina on February 04, 2011, 06:41:00 PM
This is unbelievable! and I'll say here what I said in the shoutbox, where the hell are the Republicans? :banghead:

I do hope this is being written down in the 2012 playbook
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: formerlurker on February 04, 2011, 07:04:41 PM
Quote
The matter is serious enough to merit Congressional hearings in Washington as well as parliamentary hearings in London. It is easy to see why the Obama team refused to allow the US Senate access to the negotiating documents for New START, as they would have sparked outrage on both sides of the Atlantic that would almost certainly have killed the Treaty. The Telegraph report clearly contradicts repeated claims by the Obama negotiating team that no side deals were struck with their Russian counterparts. Not for the first time, the current US administration has been eager to appease America’s enemies while shamelessly undercutting her allies.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100074846/the-obama-administration-betrays-britain-to-appease-the-russians-over-new-start/

There sure as hell better be Congressional hearings -- this just cannot stand.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Attero Dominatus on February 04, 2011, 07:10:07 PM
This is unbelievable! and I'll say here what I said in the shoutbox, where the hell are the Republicans? :banghead:

Good question.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: thundley4 on February 04, 2011, 07:41:54 PM
FUBO  :argh:

Next he will reveal the detail of Israel's nuclear capabilities to Iran and newly Shariafied Egypt.  :censored:

That's already been done just to get Iran to pretend to cooperate once in awhile.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: ironhorsedriver on February 04, 2011, 07:54:04 PM
Wonder if the US will have a single, trusting ally by the time Obumble is done?
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: PatriotGame on February 04, 2011, 08:09:55 PM
At the risk of a dummyesque post, doesn't it have something to do with his daddy?  
Yes.

0bama sees the UK as an oppressive imperialist regime that put its thumb on his native homeland, Kenya, over the first half of the past century. 0bama has it in for the UK - that is why he tossed the bust of Churchill out of the oval office on his first day in the White Mosque.

0bama needs to be impeached and prosecuted for treason...then...
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: PatriotGame on February 04, 2011, 08:12:13 PM
He did WHAT???????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are you  :censored: kidding me right now?????

O-BAM-MA, O-BAM-MA, O-BAM-MA, MMMM, MMM, MMM...
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: PatriotGame on February 04, 2011, 08:14:19 PM
Juan McCainez still likes him.

Juan McCainez can put a lip-lock on my love muscle... :fuelfire:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DefiantSix on February 04, 2011, 08:17:30 PM
Juan McCainez can put a lip-lock on my love muscle... :fuelfire:

I wouldn't broadcast that too loudly.  Juan McLame has been in bed with the Dhimmi'Rats for so *******ed long, that at the very least he swings both ways by now.  He may just show up in assless chaps and a sombrero to take you up on the offer.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: PatriotGame on February 04, 2011, 08:19:31 PM
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100074846/the-obama-administration-betrays-britain-to-appease-the-russians-over-new-start/

There sure as hell better be Congressional hearings -- this just cannot stand.

98% of the leeches in D.C. haven't got the nut-sacks (Nazi Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstien included) to do ANYTHING about it. Status quo keeps them just as insulated, protected, drunk, and happy.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Rebel on February 04, 2011, 08:25:29 PM
People pissed off by the Kenyan:

Mossad ------- Check

MI6 ---------- Check

CIA ---------- Check


Hmm. Not looking good.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: seahorse513 on February 04, 2011, 08:32:48 PM
Yes.

0bama sees the UK as an oppressive imperialist regime that put its thumb on his native homeland, Kenya, over the first half of the past century. 0bama has it in for the UK - that is why he tossed the bust of Churchill out of the oval office on his first day in the White Mosque.

0bama needs to be impeached and prosecuted for treason...then...
He did what??? say it ain't so!!
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: PatriotGame on February 04, 2011, 08:40:29 PM
I wouldn't broadcast that too loudly.  Juan McLame has been in bed with the Dhimmi'Rats for so *******ed long, that at the very least he swings both ways by now.  He may just show up in assless chaps and a sombrero to take you up on the offer.

Ooooo...McLame in assless chaps...`scuse me while I pour a tall 24 oz tumbler full of Clorox to wash my imagination...
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: PatriotGame on February 04, 2011, 08:41:54 PM
People pissed off by the Kenyan:

Mossad ------- Check

MI6 ---------- Check

CIA ---------- Check


Hmm. Not looking good.

Someone may have a "grassy knoll" in their future...
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DefiantSix on February 04, 2011, 08:44:13 PM
Ooooo...McLame in assless chaps...`scuse me while I pour a tall 24 oz tumbler full of Clorox to wash my imagination...

:cheers1:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: PatriotGame on February 04, 2011, 08:44:35 PM
He did what??? say it ain't so!!

Yup! (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4623148/Barack-Obama-sends-bust-of-Winston-Churchill-on-its-way-back-to-Britain.html)
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: NHSparky on February 04, 2011, 08:46:43 PM
IMHO, it's even WORSE than this, kids.

Consider this--Obama and this administration basically sold out the Brits and the capability of THEIR Tridents.

Now consider how much of a stretch it would be to have sold out OUR SSBN capabilities.  IOW, not much of one at all.  It's as if Obama sailed the Ohio right into Murmansk, handed over the keys, and said, "She's all yours."

As a submariner, I am so pissed right now I can't even think straight, the damage is so deep.  Walker/Whitworth is child's play compared to what Obama just did.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: thundley4 on February 04, 2011, 08:48:57 PM
At what point can he be charged with treason?  Could Britain charge him with spying?
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DefiantSix on February 04, 2011, 08:51:05 PM
At what point can he be charged with treason?  Could Britain charge him with spying?

I'd be happy to have MI-6 pretend he's Kim Philby for 5 minutes in a locked room.  :chairshot:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: PatriotGame on February 04, 2011, 08:55:35 PM
IMHO, it's even WORSE than this, kids.

Consider this--Obama and this administration basically sold out the Brits and the capability of THEIR Tridents.

Now consider how much of a stretch it would be to have sold out OUR SSBN capabilities.  IOW, not much of one at all.  It's as if Obama sailed the Ohio right into Murmansk, handed over the keys, and said, "She's all yours."

As a submariner, I am so pissed right now I can't even think straight, the damage is so deep.  Walker/Whitworth is child's play compared to what Obama just did.

As you and most career military members know, strategy is everything. It's not the number of guns you carry - it's the strategy you use to deploy and use them.

0bama just "shot-to-shit" a huge chunk of Britain's nuclear deterrent strategy.

What an absolute embarrassment to this nation...

eff you see kay! U - Zero...
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Rebel on February 04, 2011, 08:57:36 PM
So basically, since Obama's been in office, it's "**** yo Churchill bust" and "**** yo secrets" playas. I'm siding with the people that hate America. Gotta one-up 'da wife.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: NHSparky on February 04, 2011, 09:08:51 PM
So basically, since Obama's been in office, it's "**** yo Churchill bust" and "**** yo secrets" playas. I'm siding with the people that hate America. Gotta one-up 'da wife.

It's worse than that, Reb.  He threw BOTH us and the Brits under the bus.  He just took one leg of the nuclear triad and shitcanned it.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: thundley4 on February 04, 2011, 09:10:46 PM
No wonder they were in such a rush to push this treaty through, they knew it was only a matter of time before this got out.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DefiantSix on February 04, 2011, 09:13:09 PM
It's worse than that, Reb.  He threw BOTH us and the Brits under the bus.  He just took one leg of the nuclear triad and shitcanned it.

Yeah.  'Cause you know damned good and well that along with numbers on the British side, he sure as shit gave the Damned Russkies ± 2% range figures so as to give their attack boats good starting locations for tracking down SSBNs.

So much for the Silent Service being the most secure leg of the nuclear triad.  Not anymore. :thatsright:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: gurn on February 04, 2011, 09:15:53 PM
I don't think it's fair, dammit!

Obama should also have told China. He should apologize to Hu & Lang Lang about this.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: thundley4 on February 04, 2011, 09:19:39 PM
I don't think it's fair, dammit!

Obama should also have told China. He should apologize to Hu & Lang Lang about this.

He gave it to them as a freebie.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: NHSparky on February 04, 2011, 09:35:53 PM
He gave it to them as a freebie.

Pretty much.  Anyone who thinks this didn't give the PRN at least a generational leap to their SSBN program is a fool or hasn't the first clue of which they speak.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 04, 2011, 10:50:09 PM
Sooo..

Can we impeach him yet?
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Gina on February 04, 2011, 10:52:06 PM
Sooo..

Can we impeach him yet?

 :racist:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 04, 2011, 10:58:45 PM
:racist:

Call me a racist again and I'll kick out more of those teeth.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Gina on February 04, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Call me a racist again and I'll kick out more of those teeth.

you talking to me or the black kid? :lmao:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DefiantSix on February 04, 2011, 11:02:54 PM
:racist:

No, that's not racist, ya little shit.

Now posting this up:

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1291/751745888_c81b21ec97_o.jpg)

THAT'S  racist!  (probably sexist bigoted and homophobic, too.)
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 04, 2011, 11:03:06 PM
you talking to me or the black kid? :lmao:

That mouthy black kid.  :rotf:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Habsfan on February 04, 2011, 11:37:10 PM
Behind every evil man....

(http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/102383511.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E65544BA52CB99B54A0D1994BE991774C3C916D3731AC09CFCF06BF04B24B4128C)


(nice armpit)
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: catsmtrods on February 05, 2011, 05:31:23 AM
This my friends is what you get when you hire the fox to guard the henhouse. Its be proven that libs have a mental disorder so I say its time to stop letting retards vote!
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 05, 2011, 05:37:13 AM
This is effin' unreal.  I find it impossible to get the words to describe my feelings right now.

This emoticon will have to do:

 :censored: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Mike220 on February 05, 2011, 08:48:32 AM
****ing traitor...
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Godot showed up on February 05, 2011, 09:42:41 AM
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100074846/the-obama-administration-betrays-britain-to-appease-the-russians-over-new-start/

There sure as hell better be Congressional hearings -- this just cannot stand.

My second thought was this*:


High Crimes and Misdemeanors.























*My first was, like so many others', "WTF!"
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Godot showed up on February 05, 2011, 09:53:02 AM
Sooo..

Can we impeach him yet?


Obama could, I believe, just unilaterally use the FCC to shut down Fox News, and ignore any judges' rulings against him; he could nationalize the oil companies; he could declare an open border with Mexico; he could take any manner and number of dictatorial acts and the Senate still would not convict him, although it's not impossible the House would impeach, but still, I deem, unlikely. I add here that I am not writing in the least hyperbolically. I mean that. I think, just maybe, if he, say, rounded up 500,000 or so conservatives and put us in internment camps, that he could be impeached and convicted.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: thundley4 on February 05, 2011, 09:59:42 AM

Obama could, I believe, just unilaterally use the FCC to shut down Fox News, and ignore any judges' rulings against him; he could nationalize the oil companies; he could declare an open border with Mexico; he could take any manner and number of dictatorial acts and the Senate still would not convict him, although it's not impossible the House would impeach, but still, I deem, unlikely. I add here that I am not writing in the least hyperbolically. I mean that. I think, just maybe, if he, say, rounded up 500,000 or so conservatives and put us in internment camps, that he could be impeached and convicted.

Just remember, conservatives are more likely to be armed and would not go quietly.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: thundley4 on February 05, 2011, 11:07:46 AM
This story broke too late. FNC just showed the signed papers being exchanged between the US and Russia. The treaty is in effect.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Attero Dominatus on February 05, 2011, 03:15:45 PM
We could lose our alliance with Britain over this, and other countries will distance themselves from us. I hate progressives. :censored:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: true_blood on February 05, 2011, 04:11:10 PM
Way to go Obozo.
First the START treaty and now this?! This man has got to go.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 05, 2011, 04:39:58 PM
Way to go Obozo.
First the START treaty and now this?! This man has got to go.

Sure lends new meaning to the old term, "Level the playing field".

wink - wink - hint - hint.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: true_blood on February 05, 2011, 04:45:48 PM
Sure lends new meaning to the old term, "Level the playing field".
wink - wink - hint - hint.
Yeah, tell me about it.
Anything that hurts America, the Obozo is all for it. So much for the POTUS.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Airwolf on February 05, 2011, 04:51:19 PM
Somewhere Jimmy Carter is smiling like the jackass he is only because he is no longer the worse president ever.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: true_blood on February 05, 2011, 04:56:17 PM
Somewhere Jimmy Carter is smiling like the jackass he is only because he is no longer the worse president ever.
Ain't that the truth. This man will be, by far, THE WORST POTUS in history.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: thundley4 on February 05, 2011, 05:01:43 PM
Is this even going to make the news?  I've had Fox on in the back ground most of the day and have not heard one mention of this. If not Fox, then who will cover it?
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: true_blood on February 05, 2011, 05:04:49 PM
Is this even going to make the news?  I've had Fox on in the back ground most of the day and have not heard one mention of this. If not Fox, then who will cover it?
I know, it's getting bad, even with Fox News. Time to turn to The Drudge Report and conservative radio.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: true_blood on February 05, 2011, 08:06:26 PM
Hey, just one commie helping out another commie. That's all.
It's sickening is what it is. :argh:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 05, 2011, 11:46:33 PM
Thanks, Obama.

Way to shit on our friends.

Way to shit on the American people! We just ain't built this way! Americans are notorious for protecting our friends and Obummer just embarrassed every red blooded American in the country!


Obama could, I believe, just unilaterally use the FCC to shut down Fox News, and ignore any judges' rulings against him; he could nationalize the oil companies; he could declare an open border with Mexico; he could take any manner and number of dictatorial acts and the Senate still would not convict him, although it's not impossible the House would impeach, but still, I deem, unlikely. I add here that I am not writing in the least hyperbolically. I mean that. I think, just maybe, if he, say, rounded up 500,000 or so conservatives and put us in internment camps, that he could be impeached and convicted.

This is one Conservative that will refuse to be "rounded" up!
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Airwolf on February 06, 2011, 12:03:34 AM
I can't wait to see what the Brits will do over this. I won't blame them one bit.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 06, 2011, 10:02:49 AM
First of all let me say that I don't like or trust Obama or anyone in his administration.  I also don't trust wikileaks.  Assange has had this so-called information for several months, who can be sure he isn't doctoring the files?  He obviously hates America and I certainly wouldn't put it passed him to leave stuff out or put stuff in to suit his own intrests. Can anyone tell me why I can't find this so-called leak on a wikileaks site?  And where did the British find it?

I found a site (by googling) that explained that Russia wanted this info to make sure that we weren't just transferring our own nukes to Britain instead of getting rid of them.  Seems logical.  If we agreed to destroy some of our nukes but just sent them to Britain instead, the Russians would gain nothing from the treaty.  I can understand them wanting this information to ensure that we aren't doing that.  I don't agree with the whole treaty to begin with, but if we are going to do it, the Russians made a reasonable request.  But again, why can I only find these leaks by reading that someone claims to have read them?  I would like to see the leaks themselves.

Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 06, 2011, 10:08:07 AM
First of all let me say that I don't like or trust Obama or anyone in his administration.  I also don't trust wikileaks.  Assange has had this so-called information for several months, who can be sure he isn't doctoring the files?  He obviously hates America and I certainly wouldn't put it passed him to leave stuff out or put stuff in to suit his own intrests. Can anyone tell me why I can't find this so-called leak on a wikileaks site?  And where did the British find it?


I've wondered about that myself.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 06, 2011, 11:35:03 AM
The flaw in that rather-appealing view of Wikileaks is that everybody in the Oministration is pissed about Wikileaks publishing communiques and correspondence, but none of them are claiming any of it was false or fabricated by Assange.  Pretty much tells you all you need to know about that theory, right there.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 06, 2011, 12:07:01 PM
It still does't change the fact that we can't find the releases in America.  It also doesn't change the fact that the only part of this particular story realeased said that we sold out Britain.  He obviously left some things out of his release.  Or maybe the British press left some things out.  We simply don't know.  Six pages of "impeach Obama" kinda sounds like the DUmpsters reaction to anything that made Bush look bad.

Would I like to see Obama impeached? Yes.  But not for hearsay.  He's done enough right out in the open.

Is Obama socialist? Yes.  I don't like anything he is doing with our country.

Is Obama stupid? No.  He convinced a majority of Americans to vote for him and most are regretting it.  But, he did pull it off.

So, would he do something as dumb as that story suggested? No.  He is much more coniving than you all are giving him credit for.  He would sell them out, but he wouldn't do it in such an obvious way.

Do I trust Wikileaks? No.  Assange hates America.  Why would anyone here trust him?

Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 06, 2011, 12:52:45 PM
So, would he do something as dumb as that story suggested? No.  He is much more coniving than you all are giving him credit for.  He would sell them out, but he wouldn't do it in such an obvious way.

You're vastly overestimating him.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 06, 2011, 01:04:32 PM
Well, let me ask you this.  If we were signing an agreement that said that Russia had to destroy part of their nuclear weapons, would you just trust them to do it?  Or would you want some sort of guarantee that they would?  That guarantee may include the serial numbers or what ever Obama "supposedly" gave up.  I would hope that our President would be smart enough to ensure that Russia just didn't give those weapons to Iran or anyone else who didn't like us.  So, it doesn't sound like an unreasonable request from Russia.

The unreasonable thing is that he wants this treaty to begin with.  We are the only ones giving anything up.  He is essentially weakening America for no reason.  Russia knows this and played their hand well.  We stand to gain nothing from this treaty.  Giving up that information didn't hurt anyone but us. 

But, if all wikileaks released was the fact that we gave up that information and they didn't release the part of why we did, then wikileaks is doctoring the information to support their agenda.  Again, I don't know if they released everything about this or not.  All we read about is what the British have released.  WHY CAN'T WE READ IT FOR OURSELVES?  I think people are getting mad at the wrong thing.  We are apparently being censored.  I would not put that passed Obama, either.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 06, 2011, 01:21:15 PM
Your whole first paragraph causes me cognitive dissonance, it's almost like you believed the Russians would still follow a treaty for a moment longer than it proved convenient for them to do so, or something.  Have you never heard the phrase 'Broken as many times as a Russian promise?'  Do you not think that six different things can be made with the same serial number stamped on them, and marked the same, as long as no two of them end up in the same place while anyone is looking?

This treaty is in Russia's current interest because it limits US but affords them more-or-less status quo for what they have that is actually still in working condition, thereby obviating any need on their side to put any more resources into the nuclear weapons money pit than they already do, while preventing us from obtaining any dominance over them during their current less-than-world-power doldrums for the next ten years.  Not that our current strategy calls for dominating them, even if building them into a distant second place was the strategy that won the Cold War, because that wouldn't be very Progressive of us, comrade.

They expect to be a lot stronger in 10 years.  They expect us to be no stronger than we are now.  This treaty is a positive conservation of force exercise for them, a no-gain for us.   
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 06, 2011, 01:24:05 PM
Most voted for Obiewan because, not to would have made them look racist in their little feeble minds. The press made sure to press the guilt issue all the while refusing to vet him like they would any other candidate runnin'!

Obumbler is DUmber than a drawer full of used socks! He proves it every day! His foreign policy is proof enough for me he's in way over his head!

I suggest you check out HotAir's Obamaturism of the day!
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 06, 2011, 01:35:57 PM
They expect to be a lot stronger in 10 years.  They expect us to be no stronger than we are now.  This treaty is a positive conservation of force exercise for them, a no-gain for us.   

I'm sorry.  Isn't that what I said?  I said there was no one losing here but us.  Maybe you said it better.  I agree with your assessment.  I just think that people are over-reacting to us "selling out Britain".  We sold ourselves out not Britain.  And I was making the point that IF you WANTED to make this treaty work, then you would have to ensure Russia that we were weakening ourselves instead of just moving missles elsewhere. 

Also, could one person show me a link to the alleged leaks?  Why is everyone assuming all or even some of this is true?  If there is no actual evidence (aside from what a British report "tells us"), then why are you all over-reacting.  People on this site are usually much more cautious.  I think there have been many knee-jerk reactions and comments made that make people seem as silly as the DUmp.  All I ask is for proof.  And I don't doubt that we won't find it if Obama doesn't want us to.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 06, 2011, 02:02:12 PM
You're blending all the posters together, I have never said a word about impeaching him.  It's the President's prerogative to sell out anyone to make a treaty deal, par tof his powers to conduct foreign affairs of the nation and all that.  All it really means legally is that he may have a Hell of time getting Senate ratification of the treaty later, if too many Senators don't like the deal or the sell-out (And they find out about it in advance of the vote).  Of course whoever gets sold out isn't going to be his Facebook friend afterward.

I await developments.  If it isn't true, or it's plausibly deniable, either the White House or Downing Street will issue a demurral in due course.  If they remain silent, then that probably says something else.

As far as insisting people show it to you; (a) you're kind of vague about how where and how hard you've tried looking for it yourself, and (b) nobody's going to take the time to find something for you anyway, it only comes across as moling...and if you really are a mole, UR doin it Wrng.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 06, 2011, 02:35:40 PM
I am not even close to a mole.  I have googled every thing I know to google.  I can not find a wikileaks release that says anything like this.  But, apparently they can be found in Europe.  That doesn't concern you?  And I guarantee that you did try to find it, but couldn't.  I also never said that YOU said to impeach him.  Scroll back a few pages and you will find plenty of people who said just that. 

Like I said.  People are over reacting to something we have no or little proof of.  It is exactly what people did when Bush was president and it is embarrassing.  I don't like Obama or anything about him.  But a half story is just that, a half story.  I am just saying, let's get all the facts first.

Also, not replying to this is exactly what a president should do.  It is one of the few things he has done right.  He can't spend his time verifying or denying every accusation against him.  If he did, that's all he would have time for because acknowledging it makes it see credible in the first place.  Then, more and more people just start saying stuff and when he doesn't reply to all of them, they would claim it's true because he didn't reply to it.  It's like the Truthers or Birthers.  A president can't be concerned with every single accusation.  Show proof first.  That is all I'm saying.

If wanting proof makes me sound like a mole, then so is everyone who asked for proof when something bad was said about Bush.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: BEG on February 06, 2011, 02:48:21 PM
I am not even close to a mole.  I have googled every thing I know to google.  I can not find a wikileaks release that says anything like this.  But, apparently they can be found in Europe.  That doesn't concern you?  And I guarantee that you did try to find it, but couldn't.  I also never said that YOU said to impeach him.  Scroll back a few pages and you will find plenty of people who said just that. 

Like I said.  People are over reacting to something we have no or little proof of.  It is exactly what people did when Bush was president and it is embarrassing.  I don't like Obama or anything about him.  But a half story is just that, a half story.  I am just saying, let's get all the facts first.

Also, not replying to this is exactly what a president should do.
  It is one of the few things he has done right.  He can't spend his time verifying or denying every accusation against him.  If he did, that's all he would have time for because acknowledging it makes it see credible in the first place.  Then, more and more people just start saying stuff and when he doesn't reply to all of them, they would claim it's true because he didn't reply to it.  It's like the Truthers or Birthers.  A president can't be concerned with every single accusation.  Show proof first.  That is all I'm saying.

If wanting proof makes me sound like a mole, then so is everyone who asked for proof when something bad was said about Bush.


It would be this first time for this petty president, I guess there is a first time for everything.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: dutch508 on February 06, 2011, 02:50:48 PM
Just like a leftist to demand proof of one thing, yet deny the need for it for another.

How about I'll show the same concern for producing a birth certificate as Barry shows for hiding his student records...
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 06, 2011, 03:01:49 PM
Just like a leftist to demand proof of one thing, yet deny the need for it for another.

How about I'll show the same concern for producing a birth certificate as Barry shows for hiding his student records...

Where did that come from?  I only asked for proof of this alleged leak.  What did your student records reference have to do with anything?  And when did I say that he should or shouldn't provide them?  Did you just make that up?  I haven't said anything about Obama providing proof of anything.  I simply want the author of that story to provide proof.  Maybe you are on a wrong thread.

If there really was a leak, don't you think we could find it?  If not, why?  Why is everyone assuming Assange is releasing everything he has verbatim?  The dude is the same as a terrorist, yet you are all assuming he is telling the truth.  If there was a leak, show it.  If all the leak says is what is in that article, then he IS manipulating the facts.  It isn't hard to see that.  And I am anything but a leftist.  Just calm down, and try to find the truth.  If it is there, okay.  If not, then speculation and over reaction makes everyone look silly.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: gurn on February 07, 2011, 02:33:12 AM
Y'all are too hard on the Imam Barack.

Yes. This is unfair to the Brits.

But you have to understand, he offered US nuclear secrets to Russia first.

Medvedev told him,

"No thanks. We already have those."

So what could Obamao do?  

He definitely should apologize to Hu Jin Tao & Lang Lang about this.
It was very rude not to offer them the secrets also.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 07, 2011, 02:30:28 PM
The story was mentioned on Fox this morning, unbiased.  The morning hosts were ragging on Stuart Varney about it a bit.  Just thought you'd like to know.

 :whistling:
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: dutch508 on February 07, 2011, 03:48:43 PM
The story was mentioned on Fox this morning, unbiased.  The morning hosts were ragging on Stuart Varney about it a bit.  Just thought you'd like to know.

 :whistling:

what will be the next excuse for the leftist apologizers?
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on February 08, 2011, 03:54:30 AM
The story was mentioned on Fox this morning, unbiased.  The morning hosts were ragging on Stuart Varney about it a bit.  Just thought you'd like to know.

 :whistling:

You know, I would like to put him in a room with that Piers Morgan boob.

Heh,....guess he can't get ratings either.   Too funny.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 08, 2011, 09:13:16 AM
The story was mentioned on Fox this morning, unbiased.  The morning hosts were ragging on Stuart Varney about it a bit.  Just thought you'd like to know.

 :whistling:

I didn't see that.  What did they say about it?  I can't find the actual wikileaks report anywhere on the internet, which is a bit disturbing to me.  They shut the entire internet down in Egypt so I wouldn't put it passed the government to keep this stuff hidden from us.  So far, all I can find is people in Europe saying this was released.  I would love to know what Fox News was saying.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 08, 2011, 11:42:08 AM
I didn't see that.  What did they say about it?  I can't find the actual wikileaks report anywhere on the internet, which is a bit disturbing to me.  They shut the entire internet down in Egypt so I wouldn't put it passed the government to keep this stuff hidden from us.  So far, all I can find is people in Europe saying this was released.  I would love to know what Fox News was saying.

Here's HotAir's take. Sounds to me like Obiewan and Hitlery are tryin' to cover their collective asses on this one. It has an excerpt from the document leaked by Assange and his buddies.

I'll let ya make up your own ,mind, but it appears we have always told Russia of transfers from us to the Brits, but we never sent them the identifiers which tells them the exact number the Brits have. Some anonymous source is coverin' for us, but the document speaks for itself.

You'll never see this in American media as the MSM is to Obiewan like Lewinsky was to Clintoon. Heard that from Rush just now. Hehehehehe
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: Godot showed up on February 08, 2011, 01:10:31 PM
Here's HotAir's take. Sounds to me like Obiewan and Hitlery are tryin' to cover their collective asses on this one. It has an excerpt from the document leaked by Assange and his buddies.

I'll let ya make up your own ,mind, but it appears we have always told Russia of transfers from us to the Brits, but we never sent them the identifiers which tells them the exact number the Brits have. Some anonymous source is coverin' for us, but the document speaks for itself.

You'll never see this in American media as the MSM is to Obiewan like Lewinsky was to Clintoon. Heard that from Rush just now. Hehehehehe

Or as a congressional page is to Barney Frank?
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 08, 2011, 03:55:58 PM
Here's HotAir's take. Sounds to me like Obiewan and Hitlery are tryin' to cover their collective asses on this one. It has an excerpt from the document leaked by Assange and his buddies.

I'll let ya make up your own ,mind, but it appears we have always told Russia of transfers from us to the Brits, but we never sent them the identifiers which tells them the exact number the Brits have. Some anonymous source is coverin' for us, but the document speaks for itself.

You'll never see this in American media as the MSM is to Obiewan like Lewinsky was to Clintoon. Heard that from Rush just now. Hehehehehe

I am a little confused here.  Tell me if this is what you are saying.

We told russia of transfers to Brits, but did not send identifiers.  Is that right?  If so, then doesn't that make the original story from this thread bogus?  And I didn't see a link to hotair, but I will try to look it up.  Thanks for the info.  Let me know if I read this wrong.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 08, 2011, 05:14:15 PM
I am a little confused here.  Tell me if this is what you are saying.

We told russia of transfers to Brits, but did not send identifiers.  Is that right?  If so, then doesn't that make the original story from this thread bogus?  And I didn't see a link to hotair, but I will try to look it up.  Thanks for the info.  Let me know if I read this wrong.

My take on the thing is we have always let the Soviets know we were selling weapons to a third party, but we never reported how many, as it undermines another country's security for the Russky's to know the nature of the threat or retaliation they face. By givin' up the serial numbers the Russians can determine the exact count the Brits had, which is what they disagreed with in the new treaty and told the State department they didn't want divulged!

Der Zero decided to give it up anyway, something that will again undermine our relations with our Allies!

What's not to get? If you want any info you will have to research Brit papers, since our MSM is incapable of callin' out our Empty Suit for his blunders!

ETA:

Here's the link from HotAir (http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/05/did-obama-agree-to-expose-british-nuke-secrets-in-start-pact/) I thought all "conservatives knew who HotAir was. It was initially started by Michelle Malkin and several of her comrades.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 08, 2011, 06:18:36 PM
I get all of that.  That is pretty much what I have been saying.  Everyone has been getting mad about the serial numbers and that IS NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE MAD ABOUT!  Here is what I have been trying to get through.

1) The treaty itself hurts us and only us.  Giving the serial numbers is trivial.

2) Apparently they can get the wikileaks releases in Europe, but we can't get them here.  All we can get here is hearsay from Europe.  Why isn't every single person on this site mad that we are being censored?
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 08, 2011, 06:50:25 PM
I get all of that.  That is pretty much what I have been saying.  Everyone has been getting mad about the serial numbers and that IS NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE MAD ABOUT!  Here is what I have been trying to get through.

1) The treaty itself hurts us and only us.  Giving the serial numbers is trivial. No this is where you are missin' the point! This particular info really doesn't hurt us at all! The Treaty itself hurts us, but not nearly to the extent it hurts our most stalwart Ally. It hurts the Brits, because now the Russians know the extent of the Brits sub arsenal! Somethin' I think even you would agree is not a good idea!

2) Apparently they can get the wikileaks releases in Europe, but we can't get them here.  All we can get here is hearsay from Europe.  Why isn't every single person on this site mad that we are being censored? No shit Sherlock! Every person here has been pissed about this since Lord Zero was elected by morons like you, that never checked him out! The MSM has covered for him since 2006 and it is just more fuel on the fire! We don't bring it up everyday since we all know that, and have known that, from the git go!

Ya wanna be careful of accusing us of not bein' informed. Unless of course ya wanna be a pariah. I'd stick around a little longer and get to know us before you start makin' judgments.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 08, 2011, 08:22:02 PM
Ya wanna be careful of accusing us of not bein' informed. Unless of course ya wanna be a pariah. I'd stick around a little longer and get to know us before you start makin' judgments.

I did not vote for Obama. I actually worked the polls for the first time during that election and worked for the republican party.  I also didn't call you uninformed.  Nor did I call anyone else a name.  You, however, made a judegement towards me because I didn't jump to conclusions.  That is exactly what the left did with Bush and does to this day with Palin and Beck and Limbaugh....ect.  All I want is information without being censored. I have not called anyone a name.  You almost made me do that.  Since I don't fall for that, I will choose to believe that you are either drunk or not very smart and therefore I won't call you a name in retaliation.

And, I made no judgements.  I was the one saying to calm down BEFORE any judgements were made.  Scroll back to page 1-6 and all you will see are judgements without proof. Go to the DUmp and you will read the exact same stuff about this situation written there.  They believe a terrorist like Assange to be telling the truth.  They are also saying it will make Obama look bad.  Yet, not one person can find it on our American computers. I didn't read anyone besides me, asking why Assange is to be believed. So, you can keep calling me names if that makes you feel better, but ask yourself how that makes you any different than the people who attacked Bush for stuff that wasn't true. You are a real classy person.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 08, 2011, 08:25:53 PM
And by the way, here is what you wrote in red:

No this is where you are missin' the point! This particular info really doesn't hurt us at all! The Treaty itself hurts us

THAT IS WHAT I SAID IN THE EXACT QUOTE YOU WERE REPLYING TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  QUIT REPEATING WHAT I SAY AND THEN ACTING AS IF I SAID SOMETHING DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 08, 2011, 09:55:05 PM
I did not vote for Obama, sure ya didn't. I actually worked the polls for the first time during that election and worked for the republican party, sure ya did.  I also didn't call you uninformed. Uh....then what exactly does this mean:Everyone has been getting mad about the serial numbers and that IS NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE MAD ABOUT!   Nor did I call anyone else a name. I'm sorry, point out where I even insinuated such a thing!  You, however, made a judegement towards me because I didn't jump to conclusions. No my friend, I merely tried to educate you. I'm sincerely sorry you took offense. That is exactly what the left did with Bush and does to this day with Palin and Beck and Limbaugh....ect.  All I want is information without being censored. Just who the hell is censoring you??????I have not called anyone a name. Nor have I! You almost made me do that. If the foo shits, I have no problem with that. Since I don't fall for that, I will choose to believe that you are either drunk or not very smart and therefore I won't call you a name in retaliation. Oooooooooooooooh, I have been bested by a probie! I bow to your superior intelect!

And, I made no judgements. Again I point you to:Why isn't every single person on this site mad that we are being censored? Uh to me there bouncy boy, that sounds like you're accusing us of droppin' the ball. I was the one saying to calm down BEFORE any judgements were made.  Scroll back to page 1-6 and all you will see are judgements without proof. Go to the DUmp, maybe you'd be more comfortable there, and you will read the exact same stuff about this situation written there.  They believe a terrorist like Assange to be telling the truth.  They are also saying it will make Obama look bad.  Yet, not one person can find it on our American computers.Huh??? If you actually research British news media, you will find everything you are lookin' for. Did you not pay attention when I explained the American media is playin' cover for the Messiah? I didn't read anyone besides me, asking why Assange is to be believed. So, you can keep calling me names excuse me, where did I call you a name, I musta missed that part. if that makes you feel better, but ask yourself how that makes you any different than the people who attacked Bush for stuff that wasn't true. You are a real classy person. and you are a little inexperienced to be tellin' me/us we don't have any idea what's goin' on!
Besides, I don't need to impress anyone, especially a newbie!

As this seems to have hijacked the thread, I suggest if you want to take this farther, let's head to the fight club! Otherwise, I have no more time to spend with a "newb" who doesn't have the slightest idea who we are and gets his panties in a wad because he doesn't hear what he wants to.

Ah, I see said the blind man! This is what you consider callin' you names: "since Lord Zero was elected by morons like you". You are a newb, yet it appears you want to question our integrity. What did you expect, I was gonna give you a trophy for exposing our disregard of the facts when you don't have the slightest idea how many times we have addressed the very thing you are bitchin' about?

Sorry but the way you are stickin' up for Zero, what am I to suspect? If you would do a little research other than KOS or MoveON, or the typical MSM, or here for that matter, you will find there is indeed evidence that he gave up info he shouldn't have in order to put his name in the history books. I agree with the last treaty we made, but Obiewan changed the rules even after our friends asked him not to! And it appears you are willin' to give him the benefit of the doubt solely because his cheerleaders in the MSM aren't reporting it.

Buy a vowel, my friend, buy a vowel.

ETA:

Oh, and just so ya know, I start drinkin' scotch around noon every day in order to put up with the 6 screws in my back! If ya care to research anything about me, you will find this to be true! Do not judge, my man, before you know with who you are callin' out!
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 08, 2011, 11:24:29 PM
Let me react to your last drunken response.  I don't know how to do it with all the cool color changes you do, but I will do my best.

Your accusation against me:

Uh....then what exactly does this mean:Everyone has been getting mad about the serial numbers and that IS NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE MAD ABOUT!

Clearly I didn't say you were uninformed.  I said you should be mad at something else.  I don't know what you think uninformed means, but I take it to mean that you don't have information.  I did not say you didn't have information.  I said that you had "so called" information and got mad for the wrong reason.  So, nice try.

I then said that you made a judgement towards me and you claimed you didn't.  Here is that exchange: What I said:  You, however, made a judegement towards me because I didn't jump to conclusions.
 
What you said: No my friend, I merely tried to educate you. I'm sincerely sorry you took offense.

Here is what you said in the post before that led me to believe you called me a name and made a judgement:

 [/b] No shit Sherlock! Every person here has been pissed about this since Lord Zero was elected by [/b] morons like you, that never checked him out!

You then asked me to show you where I insinuated that that you called me a name.  Seriously.....read the moron call above.  Then, after what I am sure must have been the 10th or 11th beer, you said again that you never called me a name.  WTF?  Is someone else posting for you that you don't remember calling me a moron?  Then I love the probie call!!  Since your obviously drunk typing more than most people who sit and look at things logically, you can call me a probie.  Here's a tip for you, people who post as often as you, often sound as dumb as you.

Then you didn't even go to the dump to find out how much you sound like them and it's probably because you don't want to read how much you sound like them.  I am quite sure that you have some cool reputation on this site that you are trying to keep, but I have been a memeber of this site for a while and you sound like a jackass.  And seriously, read your last two posts.  One where you call me a moron and the next one where you ask three times why I thought you called me a name.  Then the cool last line where you say I'm inexperienced because I don't drunk type as much as you.  You are a real gem. I can't wait to read the red type when you try and tell me what I just said isn't true.

 
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: unbiased on February 09, 2011, 12:03:03 AM
Besides, I don't need to impress anyone, especially a newbie!

As this seems to have hijacked the thread, I suggest if you want to take this farther, let's head to the fight club! Otherwise, I have no more time to spend with a "newb" who doesn't have the slightest idea who we are and gets his panties in a wad because he doesn't hear what he wants to.

Ah, I see said the blind man! This is what you consider callin' you names: "since Lord Zero was elected by morons like you". You are a newb, yet it appears you want to question our integrity. What did you expect, I was gonna give you a trophy for exposing our disregard of the facts when you don't have the slightest idea how many times we have addressed the very thing you are bitchin' about?

Sorry but the way you are stickin' up for Zero, what am I to suspect? If you would do a little research other than KOS or MoveON, or the typical MSM, or here for that matter, you will find there is indeed evidence that he gave up info he shouldn't have in order to put his name in the history books. I agree with the last treaty we made, but Obiewan changed the rules even after our friends asked him not to! And it appears you are willin' to give him the benefit of the doubt solely because his cheerleaders in the MSM aren't reporting it.

Buy a vowel, my friend, buy a vowel.

ETA:

Oh, and just so ya know, I start drinkin' scotch around noon every day in order to put up with the 6 screws in my back! If ya care to research anything about me, you will find this to be true! Do not judge, my man, before you know with who you are callin' out!

By the way, I couldn't care less about six screws in your back.  If that is what is making you sound like a jackal, then fine.  It's either that or six screws missing in your head.  I am a conservative voter and thinker.  Just because I don't trust wikileaks does not make me a moron or a liberal.  And you can check the Ohio records of my poll service, I have nothing to hide.  I am not the one bitching without evidence and then trying to hide behind some screws in my back.  Walk it off if you are such a man. And when you find out that this story is nothing but stupid hype, don't come appologizing.  Obama is a horrible person, but he is way too smart to do something as dumb as this sounds.  THere is more to this story.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 09, 2011, 10:11:37 AM
You're wasting your time on this one, Al.  No content, lotta 'tude.
Title: Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 09, 2011, 01:00:41 PM
You're wasting your time on this one, Al.  No content, lotta 'tude.

Yeah I noticed that. I also told him this was a thread hijack, and if he wanted to continue, we could head to the fight club. He ignored that too, along with everything else.

He's not worth the trouble. nothing anyone says will ever make a diff. One of those kids who knows better than all us old timers.