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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: thundley4 on December 17, 2010, 08:26:33 AM
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When Eugene Jenkins showed up at St. Paul AME Church at 1:30 a.m. Wednesday, he didn’t know he would be one of the last people to get a ticket for assistance with his heating bill.
He waited in line until 7 a.m., when officials started to hand out the tickets, then went home for a few hours before returning at 10 a.m. By the time he had finished up his paperwork, it was 1:15 p.m., making for a long day.
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That’s left people such as Raymeica Kelley frustrated. Kelley said she, her mother and her sister arrived at the church about 3 a.m. Wednesday, only to get turned away.
“We were already too late,†she said. “It’s like impossible (to get a ticket). It gets in the way of people who need it. ... If we’re there at 3 a.m. and it’s already too late, what time are you supposed to go?â€
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WOODY MARSHALL/THE TELEGRAPH Showing her Georgia Power bills in the one warm room of her home, Raymeica Kelly explains how her mother, sister and herself were turned away from the Energy Assistance Program on Wednesday morning after standing in line for four hours. All three complained that the system the Macon-Bibb County Economic Opportunity Council uses to give out the assistance needs improving.
I'll bet this woman could pay her own damn bills if she sold that bigass TV, the X-Box below it, and stopped her cable service.
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Okay, lemme get this straight...yes, it's cold in Georgia this week.
THIS WEEK. But seriously, how much oil do ya'll go through in an average winter? I keep the house at 55 at night and during the day while I'm at work. It's 68 for an hour in the morning and about 4-5 hours in the evening after I get home from work. (Programmable thermostats are da bomb.)
But even so I still go through 450-500 gallons in a season, starting in early October and going through mid- to late-April.
And another thing--if you can stand in a line at 1 am for free shit, how come you can't be at a JOB to make money to buy that heating oil? Just a thought.
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As a resident of Macon, Georgia, I feel the need to chime in here.
Most of us don't use oil. In fact, I know of none who do. We have electric heat pumps or gas furnaces. Given that this woman claims she needs assistance paying her electric bill, I assume she has a heat pump.
For along time in Georgia, gas heat was much cheaper than electric heat, but ill-advised "deregulation" caued gas prices to skyrocket, and now electric heat is cheaper. Of course, our Republican legislature and our Republican utiliy regulatory agency just granted Georgia Power a massive rate increase, so electric heat prices have gone up significantly within the last couple of months. I got a $100.00 increase last month (over the same month last year).
It does get cold in the South. Our average yearly low here in Macon is 15 degrees. In the winters, we go through warm spells (when the Gulf Stream is dominant) and cold spells (when the Jet Stream is dominant). The cold spells rarely last longer than a week at a time, but we will have six or seven such cold spells between November 1 and April 1. To us, those spells are pretty brutal. We tend to be less-well-prepared for those than those who live to our North. It really is impossible to survive for long without heat.
for what that's worth.
Cheers,
-Laelth
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As a resident of Macon, Georgia, I feel the need to chime in here.
Most of us don't use oil. In fact, I know of none who do. We have electric heat pumps or gas furnaces. Given that this woman claims she needs assistance paying her electric bill, I assume she has a heat pump.
For along time in Georgia, gas heat was much cheaper than electric heat, but ill-advised "deregulation" caued gas prices to skyrocket, and now electric heat is cheaper. Of course, our Republican legislature and our Republican utiliy regulatory agency just granted Georgia Power a massive rate increase, so electric heat prices have gone up significantly within the last couple of months. I got a $100.00 increase last month (over the same month last year).
It does get cold in the South. Our average yearly low here in Macon is 15 degrees. In the winters, we go through warm spells (when the Gulf Stream is dominant) and cold spells (when the Jet Stream is dominant). The cold spells rarely last longer than a week at a time, but we will have six or seven such cold spells between November 1 and April 1. To us, those spells are pretty brutal. We tend to be less-well-prepared for those than those who live to our North. It really is impossible to survive for long without heat.
for what that's worth.
Cheers,
-Laelth
Did you miss my point about her giving up a few things to pay her own bills? TV, X-Box, cable? I'll bet she doesn't just have basic cable hooked to that Hi-Def TV.
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Did you miss my point about her giving up a few things to pay her own bills? TV, X-Box, cable? I'll bet she doesn't just have basic cable hooked to that Hi-Def TV.
I did see your argument on that sbject. I didn't feel the need to respond to that because I am a guest here, ultimately, and I had little hope that we could find any comon ground on that issue.
But let's assume, for a moment, that she sold the TV and the x-box. She might get enough money to pay her electric bill for one or two months. Great. Then she'll have no electricity, again, but she'll also not have the TV and the X-Box. That wouldn't really help her. I have no idea whether she has cable, so I can't speculate as to whether eliminating that would help her, financially. Cable is expensive, I admit, and it's a luxury, but my cable bill here in Macon is less that half my electric bill. Eliminating cable would not allow me to pay for electricity.
-Laelth
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Many electric companies have programs to assist the needy or poor. They ask for donations on my monthly bill. One doesn't need the Government to provide for those needs when the companies will already do that. I'm pretty sure that most utility companies that provide needed services have some sort of program.
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Many electric companies have programs to assist the needy or poor. They ask for donations on my monthly bill. One doesn't need the Government to provide for those needs when the companies will already do that. I'm pretty sure that most utility companies that provide needed services have some sort of program.
This woman's application was never reviewed. No way to tell whether she's needy or not. Her complaint is that she stood in line for hours, but once Georgia Power had accepted a certain number of applications, all of which were screened for need, they just closed the doors and told everyone who was still in line to go away. "Sorry," they said, "We don't care how needy all the rest of you may be. We have met our quota, we hve no more "free electricity" to give out, and all of you who didn't even get your applications reviewed are just SOL."
That's how they do it here.
-Laelth
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As a resident of Macon, Georgia, I feel the need to chime in here.
Most of us don't use oil. In fact, I know of none who do. We have electric heat pumps or gas furnaces. Given that this woman claims she needs assistance paying her electric bill, I assume she has a heat pump.
For along time in Georgia, gas heat was much cheaper than electric heat, but ill-advised "deregulation" caued gas prices to skyrocket, and now electric heat is cheaper. Of course, our Republican legislature and our Republican utiliy regulatory agency just granted Georgia Power a massive rate increase, so electric heat prices have gone up significantly within the last couple of months. I got a $100.00 increase last month (over the same month last year).
It does get cold in the South. Our average yearly low here in Macon is 15 degrees. In the winters, we go through warm spells (when the Gulf Stream is dominant) and cold spells (when the Jet Stream is dominant). The cold spells rarely last longer than a week at a time, but we will have six or seven such cold spells between November 1 and April 1. To us, those spells are pretty brutal. We tend to be less-well-prepared for those than those who live to our North. It really is impossible to survive for long without heat.
for what that's worth.
Cheers,
-Laelth
http://www.intellicast.com/Local/History.aspx?location=USGA0346
http://www.intellicast.com/Local/History.aspx?location=USNH0194
Do the comparison. Sorry, no sympathy here. What you call a "cold spell", I consider a "warm spell". And what I deal with is NOTHING like what the folks in MN, up in the North Country of NH, or northern Maine deal with from September through about May.
I pay about 20 cents a KwH for my electricity, meaning the CHEAPEST bill I see is $80 a month these days. Look at your bill and tell me how much you're being charged. I was in Iowa for six weeks. I unplugged the water heater, turned the thermostat down to 45 degrees, and turned off all but the fridge/freezer. My bill was still $65. I don't have central air. In summer, I have ONE window AC unit that I only run if the temperature is predicted to go above 85, and even then I was looking at $150-200/month electric bills.
And this woman has a 55-inch television, X-Box, and cable to go with it (including Internet)? I know my cable bill would easily pay her heating bill. EASILY.
No, no sympathy here.
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I did see your argument on that sbject. I didn't feel the need to respond to that because I am a guest here, ultimately, and I had little hope that we could find any comon ground on that issue.
But let's assume, for a moment, that she sold the TV and the x-box. She might get enough money to pay her electric bill for one or two months. Great. Then she'll have no electricity, again, but she'll also not have the TV and the X-Box. That wouldn't really help her. I have no idea whether she has cable, so I can't speculate as to whether eliminating that would help her, financially. Cable is expensive, I admit, and it's a luxury, but my cable bill here in Macon is less that half my electric bill. Eliminating cable would not allow me to pay for electricity.
-Laelth
ETA: There are no guest with posting privileges here. Only members have those.
That TV probably cost $7-800, easily, the X-Box and associated games $3-500 or so, Cable $30-40. For that amount I could pay my power bill for the winter months.
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http://www.intellicast.com/Local/History.aspx?location=USGA0346
http://www.intellicast.com/Local/History.aspx?location=USNH0194
Do the comparison. Sorry, no sympathy here. What you call a "cold spell", I consider a "warm spell". And what I deal with is NOTHING like what the folks in MN, up in the North Country of NH, or northern Maine deal with from September through about May.
I pay about 20 cents a KwH for my electricity, meaning the CHEAPEST bill I see is $80 a month these days. Look at your bill and tell me how much you're being charged. I was in Iowa for six weeks. I unplugged the water heater, turned the thermostat down to 45 degrees, and turned off all but the fridge/freezer. My bill was still $65. I don't have central air. In summer, I have ONE window AC unit that I only run if the temperature is predicted to go above 85, and even then I was looking at $150-200/month electric bills.
And this woman has a 55-inch television, X-Box, and cable to go with it (including Internet)? I know my cable bill would easily pay her heating bill. EASILY.
No, no sympathy here.
That appears to be a very high rate you're paying. I looked at my bill, and while it doesn't say exactly what the kw/hr rate is, it appears to be about 10 cents per hour. Of course, we use a lot more electricity here, I suspect, particularly in the Summers when we run air conditioning. My average electric bill, before the recent rate hike, was $149.22/month, and that was lower than most of my neighbors' electric bills. My cable bill is right at $120.00/month, but that includes high speed internet access.
fwiw
-Laelth
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Hold on a second...something here doesn't jive...
As a resident of Macon, Georgia, I feel the need to chime in here.
It does get cold in the South. Our average yearly low here in Macon is 15 degrees.
According to netstate.com (http://www.netstate.com/states/geography/ga_geography.htm), the average yearly low temperature for Macon, GA is 32.6 degrees, so you're being either melodramatic or dishonest.
In the winters, we go through warm spells (when the Gulf Stream is dominant) and cold spells (when the Jet Stream is dominant). The cold spells rarely last longer than a week at a time, but we will have six or seven such cold spells between November 1 and April 1. To us, those spells are pretty brutal. We tend to be less-well-prepared for those than those who live to our North. It really is impossible to survive for long without heat.
So, unless my arithmetic is horribly flawed, you're saying that you experience "six or seven" cold spells, each lasting about a week, from November 1 to April 1, correct?
I find this rather odd, considering that the 42 weeks from Nov 1 to Apri 1 is precisely the same amount of time you claim Macon suffers through those brutal cold spells, yet none of you are able to prepare for these adaquately?
Madam, your entire post reeks of patent dishonesty and craven class war-mongering.
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ETA: There are no guest with posting privileges here. Only members have those.
Yes, I know. While I am a member, and while I am honored to be one, I still feel like a guest and try to behave like one because I adhere to a different political philosophy than most of this site's members.
-Laelth
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Yes, I know. While I am a member, and while I am honored to be one, I still feel like a guest and try to behave like one because I adhere to a different political philosophy than most of this site's members.
-Laelth
Well, claiming to live in Chicago-level temps when one doesn't isn't exactly mannerly.
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I'll bet this woman could pay her own damn bills if she sold that bigass TV, the X-Box below it, and stopped her cable service.
But she needs those items.
Stories like these always piss me off. And not because these people were turned away from help. Get a job. Nevada Energy and SW Gas out here in Las Vegas have assistance to help the lower income families around here. I'm not sure if we have people handing out vouchers for "free" or discounted help though. I think you just have to call the companies and ask.
I'd like to see these same people standing in line for assistance on their bills to stand in line for a job fair.
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Hold on a second...something here doesn't jive...
According to netstate.com (http://www.netstate.com/states/geography/ga_geography.htm), the average yearly low temperature for Macon, GA is 32.6 degrees, so you're being either melodramatic or dishonest.
By "average yearly low" I mean the lowest temperature it gets (on average) in the winter. I have no idea what the site you've linked means by that term. Trust me, it got down to 18 or 19 degrees here last week, as this graph shows:
http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KGAMACON4&day=17&year=2010&month=12&graphspan=month
On average, in the Winter, 15 degrees is about the lowest temperature we will see. Sometimes a little higher, sometimes a little lower. That's what I mean by the term "average yearly low."
-Laelth
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But she needs those items.
Stories like these always piss me off. And not because these people were turned away from help. Get a job. Nevada Energy and SW Gas out here in Las Vegas have assistance to help the lower income families around here. I'm not sure if we have people handing out vouchers for "free" or discounted help though. I think you just have to call the companies and ask.
I'd like to see these same people standing in line for assistance on their bills to stand in line for a job fair.
Half the reason why I was almost tempted to stop paying the $1/month PSNH asks me for to assist low-income families.
Difference between there and here is that I don't see a whole lot of panhandling/freeloaders around here. Yes, they still exist, but certainly not to the numbers one would expect. Massholes, OTOH...go figure.
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By "average yearly low" I mean the lowest temperature it gets (on average) in the winter. I have no idea what the site you've linked means by that term. Trust me, it got down to 18 or 19 degrees here last week, as this graph shows:
http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KGAMACON4&day=17&year=2010&month=12&graphspan=month
On average, in the Winter, 15 degrees is about the lowest temperature we will see. Sometimes a little higher, sometimes a little lower. That's what I mean by the term "average yearly low."
-Laelth
That was LAST week. An anomaly. Outlier. Freak occurance.
Look at the links I provided. Then cry me a river again?
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I would also note that the site quoted above says this:
The great day-to-day variability in winter weather is caused by the interaction of polar and subtropical air masses. Atlanta's extreme low temperatures are rarely below 14 degrees F.
In other words, 15 degrees is about right if we're talking about the lowest temp. it will get to, on average, in a given year. Atlanta is a little cooler than Macon, but you get the point.
That site also says this:
The lowest temperature in Georgia, -17°, was recorded on January 27, 1940 at CCC Camp.
http://www.netstate.com/states/geography/ga_geography.htm
The accusation that I am somehow trying to mislead you all, while understandable given your pre-disposition to me, is ill-founded.
-Laelth
Edit:Laelth--typos.
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The accusation that I am somehow trying to mislead you all, while understandable given your pre-disposition to me, is ill-founded.
Edit:Laelth--typos.
I don't have any particular "pre-disposition" to you, other than the fact that your claim that the average lowest temp in Macon is 15 degrees is a fabrication, and your choosing to lay the blame for a woman's inability to get a handout (while standing in front of a nicer TV my own) at the feet of the Georgia GOP is exceedingly disingenuous.
Of course, I'm choosing not to address the ridiculous assertion that most of you down there are ill-prepared for cold weather, while you simultaneously try to maintain that somehow, Georgia historically is as cold as Buffalo, NY.
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Lowest temperature ever recorded in Macon, GA, was -6 degrees, on January 21st, 1985. It has NEVER been below zero there on any other day since records were kept.
EVER.
Again, I'm not that bad off where I'm at, and I still hit that at least 5 times last winter, and a dozen more the year prior when we had a nice little "cold snap", where we "only" hit -20 F. Parts of the North Country around Berlin were at -40 F. A weather station in Maine recorded its coldest temperature EVER at -50 F last winter.
As a kid living in Idaho, Wyoming, and Colorado, I often saw temperatures hit -25 to -30 F. Funny how we all managed to survive.
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Given that we all seem to want to talk about the weather (a nice, safe topic), you may be interested in the USDA's climate zone map. This map shows that Macon is in zone 8a (and that means an average yearly low of between 10 and 15 degrees).
http://mgonline.com/media/Images/z/zm_ga.jpg
Chicago, which a previous poster mentioned, is in zone 5b (and that means an average yearly low of between -10 and -15 degrees).
http://mgonline.com/media/Images/z/zm_il.jpg
The system is described here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardiness_zone
-Laelth
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So, where is my free gas, food, heating, car, ect, ect, etc, ect ect ect................
Frigging leeches.
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Given that we all seem to want to talk about the weather (a nice, safe topic), you may be interested in the USDA's climate zone map. This map shows that Macon is in zone 8a (and that means an average yearly low of between 10 and 15 degrees).
http://mgonline.com/media/Images/z/zm_ga.jpg
Chicago, which a previous poster mentioned, is in zone 5b (and that means an average yearly low of between -10 and -15 degrees).
http://mgonline.com/media/Images/z/zm_il.jpg
The system is described here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardiness_zone
-Laelth
That would be an extreme, dear. Not a daily average. For the record, I'm in 4a and it doesn't get anywhere near -30 on a daily basis here in winter. Just seems like it sometimes.
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I don't have any particular "pre-disposition" to you, other than the fact that your claim that the average lowest temp in Macon is 15 degrees is a fabrication, and your choosing to lay the blame for a woman's inability to get a handout (while standing in front of a nicer TV my own) at the feet of the Georgia GOP is exceedingly disingenuous.
Of course, I'm choosing not to address the ridiculous assertion that most of you down there are ill-prepared for cold weather, while you simultaneously try to maintain that somehow, Georgia historically is as cold as Buffalo, NY.
Sorry, but my claim that the average yearly low here in Macon is 15 degrees is not a fabrication. I live here. It's the truth. And I never claimed that Macon is as cold as Buffalo. Buffalo appears to be in zone 6a (and that means an average yearly low of between -5 and -10 degrees).
http://mgonline.com/media/Images/z/zm_ny.jpg
-Laelth
Edit:Laelth--fixed for clarity due to sloppy typing--too rushed.
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That would be an extreme, dear. Not a daily average. For the record, I'm in 4a and it doesn't get anywhere near -30 on a daily basis here in winter. Just seems like it sometimes.
Indeed. It appears we had a failure of communication. I never used the term "daily average." I used the term "average yearly low."
-Laelth
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Sorry, but my claim that the average yearly low in Macon is not a fabrication. I live here. It's the truth. And I never claimed that Macon is as cold as Buffalo. Buffalo appears to be in zone 6a (and that means an average yearly low of between -5 and -10 degrees).
http://mgonline.com/media/Images/z/zm_ny.jpg
-Laelth
First of all, you are looking at gardening zones. What that means is that the average lowest temperature it will ever reach is 15 degrees, not that it reaches it on a typical basis. Basically, you should plant plants that could withstand a short freeze.
Weather.com, or wunderground.com would give you an actual average cold temperature. http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/wxclimatology/daily/USGA0346
Average lows in December are in the mid to high 30's.
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Laelth, I'm not disputing that it gets cold in Macon. Hell, I live in Los Angeles, and any morning below 50 moves me to crank up the thermostat to 75.
If you want to insist that Macon is brutally cold, so be it.
If you want to blame the Republican party for Raymeica Kelly's inability to either make appropriate choices in her life or her inability to score a handout, then that's something else altogether.
But since you lamented the fact that we were all talking about the weather when you opened the door, counselor, my advice to you would be to not offer up any anecdotes unless you're prepared for any response.
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First of all, you are looking at gardening zones. What that means is that the average lowest temperature it will ever reach is 15 degrees, not that it reaches it on a typical basis. Basically, you should plant plants that could withstand a short freeze.
Weather.com, or wunderground.com would give you an actual average cold temperature. http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/wxclimatology/daily/USGA0346
Average lows in December are in the mid to high 30's.
Which is what I posted in my intellicast.com links. Average lows in Macon in December and January are mid-30's. Extreme cases they'll get into the teens or single digits. Only on ONE occasion have they ever gone below zero.
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Laelth, I'm not disputing that it gets cold in Macon. Hell, I live in Los Angeles, and any morning below 50 moves me to crank up the thermostat to 75.
If you want to insist that Macon is brutally cold, so be it.
If you want to blame the Republican party for Raymeica Kelly's inability to either make appropriate choices in her life or her inability to score a handout, then that's something else altogether.
But since you lamented the fact that we were all talking about the weather when you opened the door, counselor, my advice to you would be to not offer up any anecdotes unless you're prepared for any response.
Well, I didn't argue that it's brutally cold, per se, but it is cold enough to require heat. And the Summers are another matter altogether. It is definitely hot enough to require electricity for air conditioning.
I blame the Republican party only for giving the power company whatever it wants. I should add that the Democratic party, such as it is in this State, would probably do the same thing.
I make no judgment about whether Raymeica Kelly made good decisions in her life. I have no way of knowing that, one way or the other. I merely responded to a poster here who suggested that it's not cold enough in Macon to require heat. I beg to differ. Heating is essential here.
-Laelth
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I make no judgment about whether Raymeica Kelly made good decisions in her life. I have no way of knowing that, one way or the other.
Well, aside from the flat-screen HDTV and X-Box gaming system, I suppose you're right.
I merely responded to a poster here who suggested that it's not cold enugh in Macon to require heat. I beg to differ. Heating is essential here.
Untrue, Laelth. Neither the OP nor Sparky ever claimed heat wasn't a necessity. Sparky merely wondered aloud how much heating oil a citizen of Macon would require.
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Well, aside from the flat-screen HDTV and X-Box gaming system, I suppose you're right.
Untrue, Laelth. Neither the OP nor Sparky ever claimed heat wasn't a necessity.
Thank you--as a clarification, it's the RELATIVE amounts of energy required during the winter months. Again, I've lived in Atlanta when I was in college. I know it gets cold there during the winter. Shit, I think I even saw snow a few times.
But please don't tell me that there aren't alternatives for her need besides standing there with her hand out when she has more/nicer shit than I do, and I'm working 50-60 hours a week to put a roof over my head, food on my table, and clothes on my back.
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Why....I say WHY? are the damn gummit tit suckers living better than me ?
I don't have cable TV, high speed internet, big screen TV, X-box and no cell phone......that's so I can pay my bills and that includs the heat bill....so dammit she can too.
Most people are poor because they simply can't manage money. They buy stuff they don't need, can't afford and waste the rest.
Just another bleeding heart liberal sob story to ruin my day.... :argh:
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Well, aside from the flat-screen HDTV and X-Box gaming system, I suppose you're right.
Untrue, Laelth. Neither the OP nor Sparky ever claimed heat wasn't a necessity. Sparky merely wondered aloud how much heating oil a citizen of Macon would require.
You're right, and I apologize to Sparky for mis-representing what he said. I suppose I was responding, mainly, to say that we don't use heating oil down here--or, at least, nobody I know does.
Thanks for the correction.
-Laelth
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But please don't tell me that there aren't alternatives for her need besides standing there with her hand out when she has more/nicer shit than I do, and I'm working 50-60 hours a week to put a roof over my head, food on my table, and clothes on my back.
I don't recall ever saying she didn't have alternatives. I think I said three things, basically: 1) we don't really use heating oil here, 2) it gets cold enough here that people need heat, and 3) Georgia Power gives out some free (or subsidized) electricity to needy people on a first come, first served basis, and that once they meet their quota they shut the doors and deny electricty assistance to all the rest of those who want to apply for it, regardless of their need. That's what happened to the woman in the story cited above.
-Laelth
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You're right, and I apologize to Sparky for mis-representing what he said. I suppose I was responding, mainly, to say that we don't use heating oil down here--or, at least, nobody I know does.
Thanks for the correction.
-Laelth
Not everyone here does, either. While it is one of the "big 3", a lot of people around here do propane because they can then use gas appliances, or heat using wood or pellet stoves--which, BTW, still have tax incentives on them. Gee, what a concept!
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Utility companies generally receive any rate increases they request based upon the costs they present to the Public Service Commission. To blame this on any political party is silly, at best.
My in-laws live in Milledgeville which is about 30 miles East of Macon. There are plenty of agencies (both public and private) in the Macon area with which to apply for assistance in these matters. Sounds like someone wanted to create a news story where one really didn't exist.
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Sounds like someone wanted to create a news story where one really didn't exist.
Heh. Sounds like this entire friggin thread!!! :rotf:
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Why....I say WHY? are the damn gummit tit suckers living better than me ?
I don't have cable TV, high speed internet, big screen TV, X-box and no cell phone......that's so I can pay my bills and that includs the heat bill....so dammit she can too.
Most people are poor because they simply can't manage money. They buy stuff they don't need, can't afford and waste the rest.
Just another bleeding heart liberal sob story to ruin my day.... :argh:
Daggum JR, I am going to be repeating that first sentence in my head all day ala Foghorn Leghorn. :rotf:
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Laelth, I'm not disputing that it gets cold in Macon. Hell, I live in Los Angeles, and any morning below 50 moves me to crank up the thermostat to 75.
Dude. My thermostat has never even seen 75. One way or the other. Whoa.
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Lowest temperature ever recorded in Macon, GA, was -6 degrees, on January 21st, 1985. It has NEVER been below zero there on any other day since records were kept.
EVER.
Again, I'm not that bad off where I'm at, and I still hit that at least 5 times last winter, and a dozen more the year prior when we had a nice little "cold snap", where we "only" hit -20 F. Parts of the North Country around Berlin were at -40 F. A weather station in Maine recorded its coldest temperature EVER at -50 F last winter.
As a kid living in Idaho, Wyoming, and Colorado, I often saw temperatures hit -25 to -30 F. Funny how we all managed to survive.
Those record lows or highs are outliers. Those rarely happen and the chance of it happening is probably every +30 years.
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Why....I say WHY? are the damn gummit tit suckers living better than me ?
I don't have cable TV, high speed internet, big screen TV, X-box and no cell phone......that's so I can pay my bills and that includs the heat bill....so dammit she can too.
Most people are poor because they simply can't manage money. They buy stuff they don't need, can't afford and waste the rest.
Just another bleeding heart liberal sob story to ruin my day.... :argh:
I just got back from the volunteer job I do at a local ministry here in NE GA. I can write checks for utilities up to a certain amount. If a client has reached his/her limit for the year I can give them no more. I had to tell a few people I couldn't help them today just as I have to do every time I'm there. I didn't notice any stories about it in the paper. This is yet another non-story printed for nefarious purposes.
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I just got back from the volunteer job I do at a local ministry here in NE GA. I can write checks for utilities up to a certain amount. If a client has reached his/her limit for the year I can give them no more. I had to tell a few people I couldn't help them today just as I have to do every time I'm there. I didn't notice any stories about it in the paper. This is yet another non-story printed for nefarious purposes.
What's the nefarious purpose? I can only think of possibly two. 1. Funding has been cut for assistance. 2. The woman pictured fits into the stereotype.
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That woman standing there with her electric bills in her hand with the big-assed TV behind her and the X-box underneath it is reminiscent of this dumbass:
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/Eupher6/ruined-picture-10.jpg)
Both forgot to flush the evidence before the pic was snapped. :loser: