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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rebel on March 31, 2008, 11:13:26 PM
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The Chris McCandless story. Sorry, I'm laughing. Call me callous all you want. This is, essentially, the all-time DUmmie epic. This MORON graduates from one of the most prestigious universities in the country (Emory) and decides to live the DUmmie lifestyle. Goes to Fairbanks, Ak and finds his way south to Denali National Park (can be -55 in the Winter, 95 in the Summer). He tries living there even though he has NO hunting experience whatsoever. Could I do it? Hell yeah. Would I like it? Hell no. The river next to him, I think it's called the Strong River or something, can't remember, is TEAMING with Salmon after the breakup. In the winter, there are plenty of large game. Oh, but what rifle did he buy? A ****ING .22! Um, this isn't Florida. This is Alaska, where everything's big.
All in all, the movie kinda made him out to be a Saint. To me, however, it reassured me that he was nothing more than a dumbass with a degree. :whatever:
I only wish more DUmmies, who hate me, my fellow conservatives, Capitalism, etc. would do the same.
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Unlike the average DUmmy he actually left his basement though :-)
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Does he die?
*Red*
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Does he die?
*Red*
Um, did Pearl Harbor get bombed in Tora Tora Tora? :lmao:
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The Chris McCandless story. Sorry, I'm laughing. Call me callous all you want. This is, essentially, the all-time DUmmie epic. This MORON graduates from one of the most prestigious universities in the country (Emory) and decides to live the DUmmie lifestyle. Goes to Fairbanks, Ak and finds his way south to Denali National Park (can be -55 in the Winter, 95 in the Summer). He tries living there even though he has NO hunting experience whatsoever. Could I do it? Hell yeah. Would I like it? Hell no. The river next to him, I think it's called the Strong River or something, can't remember, is TEAMING with Salmon after the breakup. In the winter, there are plenty of large game. Oh, but what rifle did he buy? A ******* .22! Um, this isn't Florida. This is Alaska, where everything's big.
All in all, the movie kinda made him out to be a Saint. To me, however, it reassured me that he was nothing more than a dumbass with a degree. :whatever:
I only wish more DUmmies, who hate me, my fellow conservatives, Capitalism, etc. would do the same.
WTF? I spent 3 weeks in Alaska in the middle of January 1989 For a Brim Frost FTX. I was assigned as a humvee driver to an NCO evaluator for the exercise. We had to drive between Anchorage and Fiarbanks to get to the training area and on the way there it got down to -114 . There is no way I would go to Alaska in that area. There is absolutly nothing for frackin miles up there. You might as well be stuck in the middle of the Sahara for all the good it would do you to pull a stunt like that. If you don't have the skills stay the hell out of the woods or the desert.
Its amazing just how stupid people are that think a ruck filled with food and a cheap knife is all you need to make it through in an emergency or a planned trip into the woods. It maybe that I have alot of experiance from being in the Infantry camping outside but then again we didn't have to worry much about staying out in the woods longer then two weeks for training not counting going tothe desert in California at both Ft. Irwin and 29 Palms.
I really hate these kinds of movies because you see just what silly assed mistakes people make that lead to their demise and how easy it is to have avoided it.
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Does he die?
*Red*
Um, did Pearl Harbor get bombed in Tora Tora Tora? :lmao:
Dammit now you spoiled Tora Tora Tora for me I was gonna watch it next weekend. :-)
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WTF? I spent 3 weeks in Alaska in the middle of January 1989 For a Brim Frost FTX. I was assigned as a humvee driver to an NCO evaluator for the exercise. We had to drive between Anchorage and Fairbanks to get to the training area and on the way there it got down to -114 . There is no way I would go to Alaska in that area. There is absolutly nothing for frackin miles up there. You might as well be stuck in the middle of the Sahara for all the good it would do you to pull a stunt like that. If you don't have the skills stay the hell out of the woods or the desert.
Its amazing just how stupid people are that think a ruck filled with food and a cheap knife is all you need to make it through in an emergency or a planned trip into the woods. It maybe that I have alot of experiance from being in the Infantry camping outside but then again we didn't have to worry much about staying out in the woods longer then two weeks for training not counting going tothe desert in California at both Ft. Irwin and 29 Palms.
I really hate these kinds of movies because you see just what silly assed mistakes people make that lead to their demise and how easy it is to have avoided it.
-114 Airwolf? I'm going to have to question that, man. Sure that wasn't wind chill? Coldest on record in Fairbanks, I believe, is like -80.
The training area you're probably talking about isn't between Anchorage and Fairbanks, it's probably down at Ft. Greely in Delta Junction. That's where the Stryker Brigade trains now. ...but it does get colder than Fairbanks.
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Does he die?
*Red*
Um, did Pearl Harbor get bombed in Tora Tora Tora? :lmao:
Dammit now you spoiled Tora Tora Tora for me I was gonna watch it next weekend. :-)
You'll just get mad at the Germans.
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Does he die?
*Red*
Um, did Pearl Harbor get bombed in Tora Tora Tora? :lmao:
Dammit now you spoiled Tora Tora Tora for me I was gonna watch it next weekend. :-)
You'll just get mad at the Germans.
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Being an avid outdoorsman, I have read the account of this guy. His story is a good read for what not to do in a survival situation. He likely ate a poisonous plant that ended up doing him in, he did not know how to preserve meat, he could have easily walked out of the bush had he just gone a little further. He was ill prepared to do what he did. To many it is a romantic thing to try to spend time in the wilds. If you are stupid and ill-prepared life is going to be tough.
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The previews looked good until the part that said Directed by Sean Penn. I skipped it because I knew it would just be about stupid people doing stupid things and not having any personal responsibility.
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Being an avid outdoorsman, I have read the account of this guy. His story is a good read for what not to do in a survival situation. He likely ate a poisonous plant that ended up doing him in, he did not know how to preserve meat, he could have easily walked out of the bush had he just gone a little further. He was ill prepared to do what he did. To many it is a romantic thing to try to spend time in the wilds. If you are stupid and ill-prepared life is going to be tough.
He was a mile and a half from a ranger station in the park.
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The previews looked good until the part that said Directed by Sean Penn. I skipped it because I knew it would just be about stupid people doing stupid things and not having any personal responsibility.
Well, he actually did have the ultimate personal responsibility--he died from his little adventure. Sadly, though I do think that Penn probably used the opportunity to saint this guy rather then focusing on the folly of what he did, but I don't know, haven't seen the movie. But given the likely social views of this individual who gave away all his savings to OXFAM, I'd say its a safe bet he painted him in the best light.
I'm undecided on how I feel about this. I know the story of Mccandless, but I can see both people taking these hard ass adventures(sometimes I think too cushy a life as a child puts people on this kind of quest in an effort to almost self-toughen themselves up or as some self-imposed right of passage) and the obvious issues with him squandering away his very priveleged lifestyle in some dysfunctional view of idealism. There are lessons to be learned there for sure. could have, would have, should have...something tells me he was still at the 'I'm invincible' level of thinking when he made his way to Alaska. Very sad for his family ultimately.
Despite Sean Penn's moonbat status and penchant for being an angry hothead, he is very talented at what he does. Just a side note. :-*
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What is it about Alaska that draws these kinds of people? That's a rhetorical question btw. I get it. Alaska is the untamed frontier. I've been there. It is breathtaking. And intimidating. I guess it's like Everest for some people (another thing I dont get but hey..).
I finally saw the one about the guy who gets eaten by the bear.
I've seen enough Survivorman/Man vs. Wild/I shouldn't Be Alive to know that I'm not ever going into the wilderness unprepared. I'm such a downer :-)
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What is it about Alaska that draws these kinds of people? That's a rhetorical question btw. I get it. Alaska is the untamed frontier. I've been there. It is breathtaking. And intimidating. I guess it's like Everest for some people (another thing I dont get but hey..).
I finally saw the one about the guy who gets eaten by the bear.
I've seen enough Survivorman/Man vs. Wild/I shouldn't Be Alive to know that I'm not ever going into the wilderness unprepared. I'm such a downer :-)
I'm not so adventurous either, Dixie. If that makes me perpetually stumped from reaching my ultimate level of 'being' then so, well, 'be' it. :-) Actually, I know my ultimate level of being and I'm not ready to go there yet(think dead). :rotf:
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I'm not so adventurous either, Dixie. If that makes me perpetually stumped from reaching my ultimate level of 'being' then so, well, 'be' it. :-) Actually, I know my ultimate level of being and I'm not ready to go there yet(think dead). :rotf:
There's a difference between adventurous and stupidity, Jty.
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What is it about Alaska that draws these kinds of people? That's a rhetorical question btw. I get it. Alaska is the untamed frontier. I've been there. It is breathtaking. And intimidating. I guess it's like Everest for some people (another thing I dont get but hey..).
I finally saw the one about the guy who gets eaten by the bear.
I've seen enough Survivorman/Man vs. Wild/I shouldn't Be Alive to know that I'm not ever going into the wilderness unprepared. I'm such a downer :-)
I'm not so adventurous either, Dixie. If that makes me perpetually stumped from reaching my ultimate level of 'being' then so, well, 'be' it. :-) Actually, I know my ultimate level of being and I'm not ready to go there yet(think dead). :rotf:
LOL!
Well my idea of adventure is going on a road trip and hoping that the first hotel we pull into isn't full. BWAHAHA!!!!
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I'm not so adventurous either, Dixie. If that makes me perpetually stumped from reaching my ultimate level of 'being' then so, well, 'be' it. :-) Actually, I know my ultimate level of being and I'm not ready to go there yet(think dead). :rotf:
There's a difference between adventurous and stupidity, Jty.
I'm not stupid either. :-)
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I'm not stupid either. :-)
No, but, by all indications, Chris McCandless was extremely stupid. Something that Emory degree couldn't rectify.
Hey, you send an idiot to school for four years, what do you have?
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I'm not stupid either. :-)
No, but, by all indications, Chris McCandless was extremely stupid. Something that Emory degree couldn't rectify.
Hey, you send an idiot to school for four years, what do you have?
As I said, I'm conflicted. I understand searching for something--he's not unusual in that--many young adults do--especially those who have not had a lot of struggle in their lives or have lead a very empty or sheltered existence, but his incredible lack of preparing for something like this was foolish at best. I think too what he was looking for wasn't in an abandoned bus in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness, it was in his own heart if he cared to look and listen. Just sad...I hope he heard what was there before he passed.
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What is it about Alaska that draws these kinds of people? That's a rhetorical question btw. I get it. Alaska is the untamed frontier. I've been there. It is breathtaking. And intimidating. I guess it's like Everest for some people (another thing I dont get but hey..).
I finally saw the one about the guy who gets eaten by the bear.
I've seen enough Survivorman/Man vs. Wild/I shouldn't Be Alive to know that I'm not ever going into the wilderness unprepared. I'm such a downer :-)
Ah yes... Timothy Treadwell, asshat extraordinaire!
The sad part is that they shot the bear that ate his dumb ass.
Leads his girlfriend out into grizzly central without a rifle (Because he LOVED the bears) and dies screaming at her to hit the grizzly with the frying pan. :whatever:
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What is it about Alaska that draws these kinds of people? That's a rhetorical question btw. I get it. Alaska is the untamed frontier. I've been there. It is breathtaking. And intimidating. I guess it's like Everest for some people (another thing I dont get but hey..).
I finally saw the one about the guy who gets eaten by the bear.
I've seen enough Survivorman/Man vs. Wild/I shouldn't Be Alive to know that I'm not ever going into the wilderness unprepared. I'm such a downer :-)
Ah yes... Timothy Treadwell, asshat extraordinaire!
The sad part is that they shot the bear that ate his dumb ass.
Leads his girlfriend out into grizzly central without a rifle (Because he LOVED the bears) and dies screaming at her to hit the grizzly with the frying pan. :whatever:
Again, your choice of words, asdf is impeccable. :-)
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Ah yes... Timothy Treadwell, asshat extraordinaire!
The sad part is that they shot the bear that ate his dumb ass.
Leads his girlfriend out into grizzly central without a rifle (Because he LOVED the bears) and dies screaming at her to hit the grizzly with the frying pan. :whatever:
Guess he never obtained the power of Destructive White Light.
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He was out there. A real delusional DUmmie if there ever was one.