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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: 5412 on October 23, 2010, 06:26:03 PM
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Hi folks,
The following is an incredible read; particularly if there is even a thread of truth in it. It sure sounds feasible.
regards,
5412
http://theintelhub.com/2010/10/15/wayne-madsen-white-house-in-crisis/
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Very interesting and wheather it's true or not it certainly seems to describe Obama and his actions to a "T".
And I liked this part.
Brennan’s firm’s employees were among those cited in rifling through Obama’s State Department passport files in January 2008. It was never ascertained what information was gleaned from Obama’s files and possibly those of his mother, grandfather, and grandmother. However, WMR has learned that Obama’s past is curently of interest to individuals linked closely to the CIA.
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Yes if there is even a tiny bit of truth to it, it's damning. And the name "Clinton" features a prominent role. That would NOT shock me.
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Yes if there is even a tiny bit of truth to it, it's damning. And the name "Clinton" features a prominent role. That would NOT shock me.
Hi,
Months ago Hillary said something and I said she was positioning herself for 2012. Carville has also started the ball rolling subtly attacking Obama.
What I really hope happens is the Republicans force a vote to repeal health care, then Obama vetos it and then they try to over ride the veto in early 2012 so it is fresh in the minds of the voters.
That should make it tough for any democrat who is supportive of the initiative.
regards,
5412
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wow.
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Who is this guy, why would government insiders leak to him and why should we believe him?
There's nothing in his bio that couldn't be said about Alex Jones.
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You know, if this is true, he will no longer be our first black president. ....just the last in a long line of crazy white men to hold the office of president....the advantages of being half & half.
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One person's 'Lazy' is another person's recognition of the fact they aren't omniscient and can't stay awake 24-7-365, I don't know that I put any credence in that. Though Obama seems to come much closer than Reagan to what a reasonable person (As opposed to a partisan or a VP waiting impatiently for his big chance) would see that way.
Absent Obama going clinically nuts in a highly visible way, like trying to use the launch codes to nuke the Midwest, I don't see that Clause 4 stuff going anywhere but around innerwebz CT circles.
The parts about the narcissism, wanting to campaign instead of govern, and the comments on Me-shell ring pretty true, though.
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^exactly my thinking after having a day to digest this.
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One person's 'Lazy' is another person's recognition of the fact they aren't omniscient and can't stay awake 24-7-365, I don't know that I put any credence in that. Though Obama seems to come much closer than Reagan to what a reasonable person (As opposed to a partisan or a VP waiting impatiently for his big chance) would see that way.
Absent Obama going clinically nuts in a highly visible way, like trying to use the launch codes to nuke the Midwest, I don't see that Clause 4 stuff going anywhere but around innerwebz CT circles.
The parts about the narcissism, wanting to campaign instead of govern, and the comments on Me-shell ring pretty true, though.
Hi,
I have a friend who was at a dinner with Reagan many years ago, toward the end of his second term. Reagan stood up and gave a toast to Margaret Thatcher, then a few minutes later stood and gave the same toast. They joked about it saying it was because he loved her so much but my friend said that the Alzheimer's disease was indeed in full bloom. If stuff like that did not do Reagan in, I would be inclined to agree that BO is going to finish his first term. Only thing I can see is that the birth certificate issue could come to the forefront.
Glenn Beck was going on Friday about some sort of crisis and make sure the country, under terrible stress, does not embrace some sort of leadership that is not constitutional. I wondered if Beck had any inside information, like the article I referenced. Would not be too hard for the libs to try to remove Obama and grab power in the process. Many of the scenarios in the article could lead to martial law, particularly if the blacks revolted, which in turn could cause the administration to declare martial law.....try to suspend elections, who knows what else. When I read the article, first thing I thought about was what Beck was warning about.
His warning was a bit too ominious for me, like he knew something but could not tell. Better check your food, water and ammunition supply just to be safe.
regards,
5412
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One person's 'Lazy' is another person's recognition of the fact they aren't omniscient and can't stay awake 24-7-365, I don't know that I put any credence in that. Though Obama seems to come much closer than Reagan to what a reasonable person (As opposed to a partisan or a VP waiting impatiently for his big chance) would see that way.
Absent Obama going clinically nuts in a highly visible way, like trying to use the launch codes to nuke the Midwest, I don't see that Clause 4 stuff going anywhere but around innerwebz CT circles.
The parts about the narcissism, wanting to campaign instead of govern, and the comments on Me-shell ring pretty true, though.
We can hope Obama loses the codes like Clinton did for awhile.
"At one point during the Clinton administration, the codes were actually missing. That's a big deal," Shelton writes, "a gargantuan deal." Especially, he says, because the codes were unaccounted for for months. Actually, this Clinton critic told a quite similar story in his own book, seven years ago. Retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Robert Patterson was one of those men who carried the football for Clinton. He says Clinton is the someone who lost the biscuit.
Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2010/10/21/abc-notes-bill-clinton-lost-nuclear-codes-while-president-maybe-jimmy#ixzz13IaaCFpq
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We can hope Obama loses the codes like Clinton did for awhile.
All things considered, it's probably preferable to him actually knowing where they are.
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All things considered, it's probably preferable to him actually knowing where they are.
He'd be the last person to use them.
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He'd be the last person to use them.
Hi,
An Air Force officer who had the nuclear codes and was at Clinton's side during most of his term wrote a very damning book called "Dereliction of Duty". If you have not read it, some of the stuff was amazing.
Living in Tampa at the time, as luck would have it, I ran into retired General Stormin Norman at the local barber shop and spoke with him for the better part of an hour. I had just finished the book and asked him about it. He responded that the Colonel who wrote the book was a good friend of his and it was spot on......then he concluded that if the public had any idea as to just what really went on behind the scenes they would be very unhappy. I have the feelings that some military officer could write the sequel about Obama that would be better than the original.
I suspect someday a former military officer will enhance his retirement pay by writing such a book.
regards,
5412
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^Yes, none of this surpises me. Doesn't make me sleep any better though.
I'm sure every Administration has it's f*ckups. It's more troublesome though when it's an inept, liberal one.
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Whether the source is credible or not, it is obvious that many of Obama's staff are leaving early on. I don't recall this happening before. With Bush, his staff left around the 2004 Election.
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It's common for staff to leave if there is a second term for a president, not so common to leave after two years of the first, (and only hopefully), term.
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WOW! it's all I can say after reading that.
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WOW! it's all I can say after reading that.
Just remember, you heard it here first. :-)
Which leads me to something I considered almost a year ago when the Skittle shitting ponies did not fall from the sky: the democrats and lunatic moonbat lefties will be the ones to take Obama down.
Whether through impeachment, birth certificate challenges that may just see the light of day in court, bombshell revelations, political defections, or outright political mutiny against their President, it's going to happen. Yes, I know that no one wants to see a President Biden, but I do think it will look more and more palatable to the democrat "leaders" as the months grind on and more of the entrenched party elite are asked to sacrifice themselves for him. These people care only for their power and comfort and will turn on whomever tries to take it from them.
After all, they're entitled to it. Just ask them.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,39542.msg429333.html#msg429333
Think about this: Many dems fell on their swords for Clinton. And, why not? He was charming, likable, popular, and knew how to move towards the center when he had to.
Hussein is abrasive, popularity in free fall, and tremendously stupid. He is, at this point, ordering them to hold hands and jump off of the cliff while san fran nan is holding a gun at their backs.
Hussein has all of the ego but none of the Clinton charm and political savvy.
While the Clintons looked to enrich themselves, they also looked out for the party. Hussein just doesn't give a damn. He is blatantly in your face and without a clue. A typical Chicago street thug who doesn't care about how far down he takes the party or the country. He will drag them all into oblivion if it means he will get a monument to himself. And that is all this is; a monument to hussein's ego and totalitarian control. What he's doing is telling a bunch of career politicrats that they need to make themselves a sacrifice to him. He is being their god and telling them that committing political suicide is a great thing.
Look at all of the arm twisting and bribery that has gone on with this debacle. He's making his appeal to them to sacrifice themselves to save his image and his presidency, no matter what is being said on tv. It's not about the party, or the country, or the citizens, or even political rule; it's all about him.
The hard leftists don't like him because he's not hard left enough. The centrists don't like him because he's too far left. The blacks don't like him because he's not doing enough for them. The unions are getting pissed off at him because card check is more or less dead and he's not moving fast enough to satisfy them. The teachers are now getting pissed off at him because he didn't come sweeping in and save the jobs in CT.
Do you know who has been very oddly silent through all of this hell care garbage? Hillary. She has been going about the world, getting humiliated by damn near every "leader" she has to deal with, all in the name of hussein. This was her signature issue, why is she so quiet? Does anyone think she just went away after being humiliated by this rookie and the establishment DC types that she used to own? Oh no, she is very quietly sharpening her knives and making her lists (Pelosi being at the top) and waiting for the shit-storm to finally erupt.
Remember, it was her campaign that was raising questions about his eligibility and his citizenship, not the right. If the "I" word has been officially thrown in the media, you can bet the SOS is waiting for the right time to take out the president (hussein), the vice president (plugs), the speaker of the house (san fran nan), and the senate president pro tempore (sheets byrd).
She's next in line (http://usinfo.org/enus/go...nches/ben_succession.html) and I would be willing to bet that she is loving this mess he's creating so she can ride in and save the day. Hillary found out the hard way that there cannot be two liberal messiahs and she was forced to take a seat.
Mark my words, when this bill and the chicanery going along with it fails (and it will), they will turn on him with a savage fury. Not because he's hurting the country or even the party, but because he will be perceived as a complete weakling with a long trail of blood behind him in the water. Leftists are never unified, they are a fragile coalition of egos that shatter apart when the shit really hits the fan and the time has come where the shit is hitting the fan. Hussein is too weak to hold the coalition together like Clinton did and it will come flying apart. The socialist devils have long memories and will not likely forget all of the ****ings they received at his hands.
I have never believed the Republicans will take down hussein, and I still don't. If they're smart, they'll sit back and watch the show while the libs do all of the work for them.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,42003.msg459824.html#msg459824
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This is what happens in the three ring circus, I mean, the White Mosque. It's sickening. No one is perfect, but lord zero doing what he is doing, is no mistake. :banghead:
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Who is this guy, why would government insiders leak to him and why should we believe him?
There's nothing in his bio that couldn't be said about Alex Jones.
the white house mole is probably rahm emanuel. he is a notorious leaker, and infamously self serving. he was a poor choice as chief of staff, and the obamites are going to regret ever trusting him.
I am really enjoying that series over at newsflavor.
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Even if true, the majority of Americans will never see or hear about it. The Obamaphiles won't care.
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the white house mole is probably rahm emanuel. he is a notorious leaker, and infamously self serving. he was a poor choice as chief of staff, and the obamites are going to regret ever trusting him.
I am really enjoying that series over at newsflavor.
newsflavor? Do tell....
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newsflavor? Do tell....
read, and enjoy (http://newsflavor.com/). it's killer (yet very scary) stuff.
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Ooooh!!!! Bookmarked!!!! :-)
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Ooooh!!!! Bookmarked!!!! :-)
the white house mole, not the guy being interviewed, but the guy that he is talking to, has got to be rahm emanuel. ratting out an administration to make yourself look better is SOP for him. plus, he is a clintonite, and the clintons are still seething with indignation because hillary was deprived of the oval office because of this upstart.
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yeah I tend to think it's Rahm too W.E.
Juicy!!!!
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Even if true, the majority of Americans will never see or hear about it. The Obamaphiles won't care.
That is very true. They just want their free money and pony too!
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I didn't read the whole thing. . . but it was quite interesting. I told you guys I was an MD, but I didn't tell you my speciality and it is. . . Psychiatry!
There is no way Obama has schizophrenia. Sorry, just not possible.
Now, he could have a severe depression. Very severely depressed people can get psychotic as part of the depression. The thing is, it's really pretty treatable. You have to add an antipsychotic med to the anti-depressant, but the new ones are have really low side effects and are quite effective. It would really only take, at worst, a few months for the guy to get better. Maybe not 100%, but better. So why would you remove him from office as opposed to treating him? I just don't see this working. . . if anyone is really trying for this it's going to fail.
I rarely look at any video with Obama in it (gives me depression) but I'll see if I can find some of him where he's not on the teleprompter and try to see if I see any signs of depression in his speech or body language.
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I didn't read the whole thing. . . but it was quite interesting. I told you guys I was an MD, but I didn't tell you my speciality and it is. . . Psychiatry!
There is no way Obama has schizophrenia. Sorry, just not possible.
Now, he could have a severe depression. Very severely depressed people can get psychotic as part of the depression. The thing is, it's really pretty treatable. You have to add an antipsychotic med to the anti-depressant, but the new ones are have really low side effects and are quite effective. It would really only take, at worst, a few months for the guy to get better. Maybe not 100%, but better. So why would you remove him from office as opposed to treating him? I just don't see this working. . . if anyone is really trying for this it's going to fail.
I rarely look at any video with Obama in it (gives me depression) but I'll see if I can find some of him where he's not on the teleprompter and try to see if I see any signs of depression in his speech or body language.
I have a ton of friends in the "dispense zoloft" industry.
I think that your whole brand of science is crap.
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I think that your whole brand of science is crap.
That's nice. And your point is. . . . ?
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I think that your whole brand of science is crap.
That's nice. And your point is. . . . ?
perhaps we went awry at "your brand of science. but perhaps not.
do you wish to prove that your "brand" of alleged science actually
adheres to the scientific method?
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I don't believe in "psychiatry", either. It's akin to Glow-Bull Warming....
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Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution)
Translation -
If (Obama's Cronies) should all get together and declare (Obama) unable to discharge the duties of the office then (Biden) is assigned Acting President.
After then
If (Obama) tells (obama's Cronies) that he's actually fit to perform his duties (obama) resumes his duties unless (obama's cronies) disagree. ONLY should that happen does congress get to decide and only with a 2/3rds majority.
Likely outcome in the present tense even if Obama's cronies can be persuaded to turn coat - you get Biden, or have I erred in my interpretation here ?.
Is Biden really any improvement ?
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You have to add an antipsychotic med to the anti-depressant, ....then suck a bong...drink a little liquor... have a cup of coffee and a cigarette....pop an upper....a downer....a pain pill or 2....and WAA-LAA all better and normal again.
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Now, he could have a severe depression. Very severely depressed people can get psychotic as part of the depression. The thing is, it's really pretty treatable. You have to add an antipsychotic med to the anti-depressant, but the new ones are have really low side effects and are quite effective. It would really only take, at worst, a few months for the guy to get better. Maybe not 100%, but better. So why would you remove him from office as opposed to treating him? I just don't see this working. . . if anyone is really trying for this it's going to fail.
W.T.F?!?! Treat him? I want him to stop occupying the White House and vote a REAL leader in there. Treat him, really?! :fuelfire:
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the white house mole, not the guy being interviewed, but the guy that he is talking to, has got to be rahm emanuel. ratting out an administration to make yourself look better is SOP for him. plus, he is a clintonite, and the clintons are still seething with indignation because hillary was deprived of the oval office because of this upstart.
Yeah, a little too much blather about the short-fused "campaign". He didn't say for the mayorship of Chicago, but that's gotta be what it is. My money's on Rahm.
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Translation -
If (Obama's Cronies) should all get together and declare (Obama) unable to discharge the duties of the office then (Biden) is assigned Acting President.
After then
If (Obama) tells (obama's Cronies) that he's actually fit to perform his duties (obama) resumes his duties unless (obama's cronies) disagree. ONLY should that happen does congress get to decide and only with a 2/3rds majority.
Likely outcome in the present tense even if Obama's cronies can be persuaded to turn coat - you get Biden, or have I erred in my interpretation here ?.
Is Biden really any improvement ?
Hi,
I lived through the Nixon and Agnew resignations. Now mind you it was a different world back then but a crisis was indeed avoided. Congress got together and Gerald Ford became acting president because congress realized he had the moral authority to lead.
Putting Pelosi, (who is likely the most unpopular politician on the planet), or Biden who is likely right behind her, in the white house would cause one hell of a crisis. Somehow a leader would have to emerge......... Christ, what am I saying. While Hillary might want the job if BO got bounced before his term is over, Bill Clinton could actually get the job to steward until the next election.
While the Constitution says one thing, there still is an issue with moral authority to lead. BO had it when he got elected and it is now totally gone, just look at the polls.
If I were to guess, this crap will start hitting the fan in 2011 and they will drag it out until folks say it is only a few more months, just leave BO there as a lame duck idiot which he is already anyway.
regards,
5412
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he was a chicago machine politico. and he kissed ass for years as he tried to climb the ladder. there is no way there isn't anything there.