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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on October 09, 2010, 10:30:39 AM
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-07-10 06:02 PM
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Does Newt Even Know Who Is Getting Food Stamps in America?
Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 06:11 PM by McCamy Taylor
According to Newt Gingrich, the Democratic Party is “the party of food stamps.†Does Newt Gingrich actually know anything about the food stamps program? Probably not. If he did, he would realize that the reddest state in the union, Texas, has more folks on food stamps than any other state. 3.7 million Texans need government assistance to eat. And the number has risen by almost 800,000 since last year---the largest growth in recipients for any state.
http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparemaptable.jsp?ind...
So, according to Newt Texas is the most Democratic state!
Does Newt know (or care) that folks living in rural areas are more likely to need government help to put food on their tables? In 2005---before the recession---people who lived in the country were twice as likely to receive food stamps as those living in cities.
http://www.carseyinstitute.unh.edu/publications/PB_food...
So, according to Newt rural America is more Democratic than urban America .
Does Newt know that the elderly as more likely to receive food stamps than younger adults? Does he know that children are also more likely to need Supplemental Nutritional Assistance in order to get the food they need in order to grow? Does Newt realize that the working poor receive more food stamps than folks on welfare?
http://www.fns.usda.gov/ora/menu/Published/SNAP/FILES/P...
According to Newt, the Democratic Party is the party of the elderly, children and hard working (but struggling) Americans.
Does Newt know that unemployed Americans who have run out of unemployment benefits are one of the fastest growth groups in the food stamp program? The New York Times reported on this, and being a food stamp expert, I am sure Newt must have read the story.
“I went from making $180,000 to relying on food stamps,†she said. “Without that government program, I wouldn’t be able to feed my children
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/03/us/03foodstamps.html?...
Newt says that if you are unemployed, the Democratic Party has your back.
Does Newt know that the number of Americans using food stamps steadily rose during the Nixon presidency and the Bush Sr. presidency then declined during the Clinton administration? Does he know that food stamp use rose again during the Bush/Cheney administration? Doesn’t that make the GOP the party of poverty and food stamps?
http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/411810_SNAP_and_the_re...
Since Newt obviously does not know shit about food stamps, maybe he is also unaware of the fact that more white folks live in poverty in this country---and receive aid for the poor, like food stamps---than members of any other racial group. These studies have been around for literally decades.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_n2_v48/a... /
All of this raises an interesting question. Does Newt know anything? Or is he 100% blind ambition, struggling to become politically relevant again in a country he does not even understand? Maybe Newt should go back to school and let the people who really know what the hell is happening in this country run the government.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9276069
You people are idiots.
Maybe if I type real slow you boneheads can keep up.
Newt wasn't bashing the people getting the food stamps. He was bashing the clown you guys put in the white house for creating an environment where so many people are having to use food stamps.
the fact that you and Pelosi see this as a badge of honor is frighting.
gratuitous (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-07-10 06:07 PM
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2. All Newt knows is that he doesn't need food stamps
But he does receive capital gains on his investments. So for Newt, food stamps are bad, and cuts in the capital gains tax are good. And in Newt's mind, what's good for Newt is good for America. That's why he gets to go on teevee all the time, and you don't. Because Newt speaks for the other millionaires on the teevee.
More of that bullshit that keeping your own money is exactly like welfare. :banghead:
xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-07-10 06:44 PM
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9. I don't know if it holds true for
other states but here in California every $5 of Food Stamps generates $9.20 in the community. Nearly double....so Food Stamps/Democratic Party stimulate the economy! :think:
Ok please someone explain to me how this works. Explain to me how that 5 dollars magically grows into almost $10.
corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-07-10 07:14 PM
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10. YEAH!!!
I love it when Republicans make our case, thanks, Newt!! (and thanks McCamy for pointing that out)!
:thumbsup:
VOTE DEM!!
your case sucks and more Americans are realizing that.
Normal people realize that the more people on the dole and less people in jobs is a bad thing.
iamtechus (498 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-07-10 07:15 PM
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11. Food stamps have always been of benefit to farmers and grocers.
Seems like an exellent way to stimulate the economy. Rules were recently changed so that Farmers Markets could accept food stamps and that has provided a welcome revenue stream for those businesses.
Well hell the economy should be booming right now then.
Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-07-10 07:26 PM
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12. He certainly doesn't know which party over the last 50 years
has by far generate more jobs.
Neither party has generated jobs you asshat. it just happens that under Republicans the enviroment for business is safer so there are more jobs. At his worst day bush had 5.6% unemployment.
nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-08-10 10:21 AM
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20. He knows who the people he's dog-whistling at *think* get food stamps
What Newt says:
"The Democrats are the party of food stamps".
What your average Teabagger hears:
"You know who gets food stamps? N****rs! The Democrats are the party of n****rs!"
You racist piece of shit. **** you.
DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-08-10 02:18 PM
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24. Newt's just frantically pushing buttons. "Blame the poor!" is one of the big, red ones.
Idiot.
aggiesal (831 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-08-10 02:42 PM
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25. A little known statistic ...
For every dollar spent on Food Stamps, generates $1.84.
How you ask?
Money spent on food filters up the chain of supply.
The store has to reorder more food, along with the supplier, distributor,
and finally the manufacturer/grower.
Also, the money spent on food stamps frees up the really dollars that
the family has to pay other bills.
Food stamps are one of the most efficient way to kick start an economy.
When a RW-Nut tells me, that we should give tax breaks to the wealth because
when have you ever heard of a poor person creating jobs?
When I explain that if the money goes to the top (i.e. wealthy) they invest or
look at other countries to create jobs.
If the money goes to the average citizen (you, me, and others in the middle class)
we tend to spend it to pay bills, buy food and other necessities, and that stimulates
the economy, which causes businesses to start hiring again.
This goes waaaaay over their head
Ok this dummy tried to splain it. However wouldn't the economy do better if people earned that dollar at their job then put it back into the economy? Instead of taking that dollar from an already broke Govt?
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Well, if Newt ever went into a Walmart, he knows.
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Well, if Newt ever went into a Walmart, he knows.
Or Publix. :-)
It just kills me seeing how they divide their stuff at the checkout.
they start off with more groceries than we have. Then the second part is all the goodies beer, wine, cigarettes etc. And I can't help think that all we are doing is enabling them to buy their vices then we get to pay for their doctor visits on top of that. Meanwhile I work my butt off and I am in serious need of dental work but, can't afford it at the moment.
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McCamy Taylor
Does Newt know that unemployed Americans who have run out of unemployment benefits are one of the fastest growth groups in the food stamp program?
Yes. And just like me, he knows the fault lies with liberalism and the Dem party for taking a marginally poor economic situation and making it extremely bad. He also knows good and descent people don't want welfare, they want jobs, something that is not part of the Dem party platform.
And the citizens of this country, who you wish to control via Big Brother, know that Newt is right.
... let the people who really know what the hell is happening in this country run the government.
That would never, not in 900 quadrillion years, ever include you and those who hold the political viewpoints you do. Face it, you're a failure in life. I've faced it that you are, at least you could be brave enough to try and face it.
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“I went from making $180,000 to relying on food stamps,†she said. “Without that government program, I wouldn’t be able to feed my children
What I really want to know is.....what kind of a job does as bitch that stupid do that pays $180,000 a year?
Hooker, stripper, government worker.....what?
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The reason their economic theory or model can never work is the same as why a perpetual motion machine can not be created.
They make these claims but stop short of the full cycle.
That dollar given to a person and spent by him eventually will have enough pennies drained from it by consumption up the chain to eventually be returned to the government via taxation at a fraction of its initial value.
Thus to keep the cycle going money either has to be printed or borrowed.
Hand everyone a freshly printed stack of a million dollars and it is worthless as there is no incentive to produce anything,human nature makes communal living a fantasy.
Borrow it and eventually the consumption losses add to the point where no longer will an entity be willing to loan money knowing it can`t be repaid in any form.
That is where O is heading us.
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The reason their economic theory or model can never work is the same as why a perpetual motion machine can not be created.
They make these claims but stop short of the full cycle.
:hi5:
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9276069
Ok please someone explain to me how this works. Explain to me how that 5 dollars magically grows into almost $10.
OK this one is really simple. Leroy, takes baby momma Poteshia's food stamps and trades them for cocaine. He steps on the coke making his $400 worth $800 now. Subtract what he spends on the powder he cut the dope with along with the cost of the baggies and VIOLA DUmmy capitalistic dreams are realized.
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Never mind the fact that the foodstamp program already took the money out of the economy in the first place, asshat!
Just moving money around from my pocket to yours, with nothing whatsoever traded between the two, is not increasing shit! It's called ****in' theft!
Since when does thievery help any economic formula??????
Idiots!
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“I went from making $180,000 to relying on food stamps,” she said. “Without that government program, I wouldn’t be able to feed my children
What I really want to know is.....what kind of a job does as bitch that stupid do that pays $180,000 a year?
Hooker, stripper, government worker.....what?
And if one made that much, did they never hear of a SAVINGS account?
I'm sorry, but if our family made $180K a year, you best believe we would have a very hefty savings account.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-07-10 06:44 PM
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9. I don't know if it holds true for
other states but here in California every $5 of Food Stamps generates $9.20 in the community. Nearly double....so Food Stamps/Democratic Party stimulate the economy! :think:
Someone said now if the government taxes that $9.20 by $5.00 they have a perpetual money making machine. This my friends is what passes for economic common sense in a what passes for a progressive's mind.
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Someone said now if the government taxes that $9.20 by $5.00 they have a perpetual money making machine. This my friends is what passes for economic common sense in a what passes for a progressive's mind.
xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-07-10 06:44 PM
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9. I don't know if it holds true for
other states but here in California every $5 of Food Stamps generates $9.20 in the community. Nearly double....so Food Stamps/Democratic Party stimulate the economy! :think:
Where's the link to this abstract economic BS???????????
ETA:
This is as close as I can find for this, other than some O'Bumbler ass kissin' shit, outa the gubmint..........
Shootin' this fallacy in the ass! (http://www.oregoncatalyst.com/index.php/archives/1988-Food-Stamp-Recruitment-Is-Not-an-Economic-Development-Strategy.html)
I'd post excerpts, but I can't figure out the page encoding. It is after all, coming from Oregon, and we all know they do things a little different than us normal humans!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-07-10 06:02 PM
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Does Newt Even Know Who Is Getting Food Stamps in America? (We can take a good guess that it's the DUmmies, liberals, illegals, and those wonderful people with that "religion of hate", the mooselims.)
Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 06:11 PM by McCamy Taylor
According to Newt Gingrich, the Democratic Party is “the party of food stamps.†Does Newt Gingrich actually know anything about the food stamps program? Probably not. If he did, he would realize that the reddest state in the union, Texas, has more folks on food stamps than any other state. 3.7 million Texans need government assistance to eat. And the number has risen by almost 800,000 since last year---the largest growth in recipients for any state. (The demosocialists are the party of food stamps! They pass HELLCARE first before focusing on the economy and jobs?!? Remember that DUmmie?!?! Go smoke some dope you DUmmie!)
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It's easy...just watch for the fat ones to come out of the grocery store.
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It's easy...just watch for the fat ones to come out of the grocery store.
Or the ones in joggers, pullin' the one armed bandits in Vegas!
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What they miss is that those dollars are taken from people that actually produce something so they have less to spend, invest, etc.
Back in the 70's things got kinda bad at the Perky household. We actually qualified for the free lunch program. Daddy Perky refused to go on welfare and we went out to Granddad Perky's farm and planted several acres of garden to feed ourselves. "Welfare is for loser scum and we ain't loser scum!" was Daddy and Granddad Perky's comment. It drove me and Brother Perky to succeed at school so we would never be in a position like that again. Back then, being poor hurt and you did not want to be poor. Welfare was out of the question. You just did not go on welfare or you admitted your were a failure and failure was not an option.
Things are very different now. Welfare has lost it's stigma. It should hurt to be poor so your kids do not want to be in the same position.
I would like to say that no member of the Perky family was ever on welfare but I can't. My sister was on it for a time, (No fault off her own, hubby was in a bad car wreck, couldn't work and she was a stay at home mom), used it to go get a degree in nursing and the first paycheck she got she went down to the welfare office, showed them her paycheck, and politely, and very loudly I might add, told them to take their welfare and shove it up Obama's ass. Now she makes $40.00 an hour, plus 20 hrs OT a week, and will probably never be on welfare again. She was extremely embarassed to be on welfare and is making sure she will never be in that situation again.
The permanent parasite class pisses me off.
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Sorry DUmmies, $5 in food stamps doesn't "generate" anything, let alone the $9, or whatever figure you choose to pull from your ass.
Now you CAN state that it takes more in TAXES AND SUBSIDIES to generate $5 worth of food at a grocery store that someone uses an EBT to buy. So where did that "extra" money come from?
I leave it to your brilliant minds to deduce.
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Sorry DUmmies, $5 in food stamps doesn't "generate" anything, let alone the $9, or whatever figure you choose to pull from your ass.
Now you CAN state that it takes more in TAXES AND SUBSIDIES to generate $5 worth of food at a grocery store that someone uses an EBT to buy. So where did that "extra" money come from?
I leave it to your brilliant minds moldy brains to deduce.
Fixored!!!!!!!!!!!
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According to Newt Gingrich, the Democratic Party is “the party of food stamps.†Does Newt Gingrich actually know anything about the food stamps program? Probably not. If he did, he would realize that the reddest state in the union, Texas, has more folks on food stamps than any other state. 3.7 million Texans need government assistance to eat. And the number has risen by almost 800,000 since last year---the largest growth in recipients for any state.
LOL, what is the breakdown of those receiving the benefits? how many of them are actual citizens? and how many of them actually vote Republican?