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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 09:51 PM
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For the record, This is what amazes me about the power of FAUX news
Edited on Sat Jul-24-10 09:58 PM by DainBramaged
P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,220,000 viewers
CNN – 457,000 viewers
MSNBC – 441,000 viewers
CNBC – 173,000 viewers
HLN – 277,000 viewers
P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 2,356,000 viewers
CNN – 687,000 viewers
MSNBC –841,000 viewers
CNBC – 195,000 viewers
HLN – 527,000 viewers
25-54 Total Day
FNC –344,000 viewers
CNN –144,000 viewers
MSNBC –143,000 viewers
CNBC – a scratch w/53,000 viewers
HLN – 105,000 viewers
25-54 Prime Time
FNC – 622,000 viewers
CNN – 195,000 viewers
MSNBC –262,000 viewers
CNBC – 97,000 viewers
HLN – 138,000 viewers
35-64 Total Day
FNC – 589,000 viewers
CNN – 206,000 viewers
MSNBC – 226,000 viewers
CNBC – 89,000 viewers
HLN – 141,000 viewers
35-64 Prime Time
FNC –1,116,000 viewers
CNN – 265,000 viewers
MSNBC –448,000 viewers
CNBC – 88,000 viewers
HLN –225,000 viewers
Morning programs (6:00AM-9:00AM) P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
FOX & Friends- 997,000 viewers (305,000) (549,000)
American Morning- 348,000 viewers (156,000) (188,000)
Morning Joe- 368,000 viewers (121,000) (170,000)
Squawk Box- 139,000 viewers (54,000) (100,000)
Morning Express w/ Meade- 265,000 viewers (112,000) (160,000)
5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck – 2,442,000 viewers (611,000) (1,136,000)
Situation Room—680,000 viewers (159,000) (239,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews – 580,000 viewers (165,000) (283,000)
Fast Money– 186,000 viewers (a scratch w/39,000) (101,000)
Showbiz Tonight — 246,000 viewers (67,000) (110,000)
6PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Special Report w/ Bret Baier – 1,997,000 viewers (422,000) (794,000)
Situation Room—560,000 viewers (158,000) (221,000)
Ed Show —692,000 viewers (196,000) (352,000)
Mad Money —148,000 viewers (a scratch w/44,000) (86,000)
Prime News – 285,000 viewers (123,000) (167,000)
7PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The Fox Report w/ Shep – 1,515,000 viewers (354,000) (660,000)
John King USA – 533,000 viewers (147,000) (207,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews – 619,000 viewers (175,000) (342,000)
Kudlow Report– 153,000 viewers (a scratch w/31,000) (74,000)
Issues – 445,000 viewers (168,000) (257,000)
8PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor– 3,082,000 viewers (757,000) (1,407,000)
Campbell Brown – 562,000 viewers (142,000) (200,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 951,000 viewers (276,000) (516,000)
New Age of Wal-Mart– 149,000 viewers (80,000) (a scratch w/50,000)
Nancy Grace – 621,000 viewers (153,000) (273,000)
9 PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Hannity– 2,099,000 viewers (579,000) (1,020,000)
Larry King Live —714,000 viewers (190,000) (236,000)
Rachel Maddow Show —976,000 viewers (245,000) (492,000)
BP: In Deep Water – 188,000 viewers (81,000) (93,000)
Joy Behar – 620,000 viewers (136,000) (210,000)
10 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
On the Record w/ Greta—1,884,000 viewers (529,000) (918,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 — 783,000 viewers (255,000) (358,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 595,000 viewers (265,000) (333,000)
American Greed – 247,000 viewers (131,000) (121,000)
Nancy Grace –377,000 viewers (136,000) (211,000)
11 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor– 1,683,000 viewers (656,000) (970,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 – 466,000 viewers (187,000) (278,000)
Rachel Maddow Show —574,000 viewers (222,000) (343,000)
Mad Money – a scratch w/83,000 viewers (60,000) (a scratch w/47,000)
Showbiz Tonight– 390,000 viewers (135,000) (195,000)
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/07/22/cable-news-ratings...
How could a couple of million turnips watching TV like the drones from the original Apple 1984 TV commercial influence anything but Depends sales?
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femmocrat (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 09:55 PM
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1. I don't remember where I heard this, but....
Edited on Sat Jul-24-10 09:55 PM by femmocrat
they count the captive viewers in airports, restaurants, etc. where Faux is piped in. And I think Faux pays those venues to broadcast its sh*t, or provides the monitors or something.
That's my rationalization and I'm sticking with it! LOL
havocmom (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 09:58 PM
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2. Heard that FOX pays some locations, pays for the cable in some, buys TVs for some
Edited on Sat Jul-24-10 10:01 PM by havocmom
with the stipulation that the tuner be set to FOX, so yeah the numbers are grossly inflated.
Edited to add: And if someone would tell the WH about the arrangement FOX has with so many businesses, perhaps people in the administration would stop fearing FOX and have a more realistic view of FOX impact in the general population. There is a reason someone invented and sold a remote device that will shut FOX off on TVs. Most people are sick of listening to it, and have been for several years. Please let the Sec of Ag know.
You are talking about a thread that was posted here where someone wanted to do that.
It wasn`t specific to Fox but any TV they encountered.
You have just shown how the DUmp believes any and all urban myths.
pstokely (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 10:04 PM
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4. The McDonalds around here always have a TV tuned to Faux
Edited on Sat Jul-24-10 10:14 PM by pstokely
Faux fans often tune TVs in public places like waiting rooms to Faux and leave it there after they leave, I usually tune the TV to something else it's on Faux if no one else is watching
havocmom (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 10:09 PM
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7. Had the car into the dealer for oil change, they tried to sell us new car
Told them I won't buy anything again from any place that makes me suffer through FOX news.
Next oil change.... no FOX. I am thinking I am not the only person who complained.
Let businesses know: No FOX or NO SALE! Sometimes, weary employees will tell you why the tv is always on FOX. Interesting to hear about the arrangements FOX makes to get 'viewers'.
Sure you did. ::)
Janice325 (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Also, I believe more cable companies carry Fox with their basic
package, while not necessarily carrying MSNBC. At least, I think I seem to remember reading that somewhere way back when.....
I think you're correct, femmocrat, about Faux being piped in where they have captive viewers.
No idiot,it is called creating an attractive marketing package to enhance sales.
A business thing you useless leeches will never grasp.
AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 10:14 PM
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8. I've been successful in having Faux turned off in businesses
If I go anywhere and Faux is on their televisions I complain and say I will never return to their business again if they leave Faux on. I went by a bank in a mall and they had Faux on but I complained and they took it off and put it on a sports channel. Whenever I go by that bank they never have Faux on so my complaint worked.
I urge everyone to complain if they see Faux anywhere. No one should be subjected to the hate, racism, fear, lies and rage Faux spews out 24 hours a day. It's the same thing as telling a restaurant to put their garbage out back in the dumpster instead of in their dining area.
I also write commentary on receipts that I turn in so a business's management gets to read them.
Sure you have poser.
Bet you get treated like a lunatic a lot too.
pstokely (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 10:15 PM
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9. If they don't have Faux on, a Faux fan will demad then turn to Faux
I can`t say I know anyone or imagine someone that is conservative having a hissy about what is or isn`t on a TV in those situations.
AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 11:12 PM
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17. But they will definitely lose the business of the great majority of NON-faux people
Given that you are all broke,cheap and miserable to people they probably wouldn`t care.
mmonk (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 10:07 PM
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6. Fox is a menace to Democracy (and a threat).
Who is the fascist in the room?
I laugh at your impotence. :lmao:
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Maybe because most of America doesn't buy the liberal bullshit line anymore, ya think?
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 09:51 PM
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For the record, This is what amazes me about the power of FAUX news
For the record, this is what amazes me about Fox News.
How 1 station can send the left into such insane ramblings. You have CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, NPR, CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, yet you obsess about 1 station, a station that when you actually look at it shows both points of view, yet your extreme ideology doesn't allow you to see both sides.
So continue to obsess please, because the more you do the funnier the meltdowns are.
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For the record, this is what amazes me about Fox News.
How 1 station can send the left into such insane ramblings. You have CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, NPR, CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, yet you obsess about 1 station, a station that when you actually look at it shows both points of view, yet your extreme ideology doesn't allow you to see both sides.
So continue to obsess please, because the more you do the funnier the meltdowns are.
Anything that goes against their hive mentality and contradicts the echo chamber in which they live sends the Little Goons into insane ramblings and tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.
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Anything that goes against their hive mentality and contradicts the echo chamber in which they live sends the Little Goons into insane ramblings and tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.
They really think that only 1 point of view should be presented, theirs!
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They really think that only 1 point of view should be presented, theirs!
Yup and anyone expressing a dissenting view from their highly enlightened "thinking" is to be shunned ridiculed and silenced...violently if necessary.
Yet with a straight face and in all seriousness they will in the next breath tell you how tolerant and open minded they are.
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This DUmor really makes me laugh:
AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 11:12 PM
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17. But they will definitely lose the business of the great majority of NON-faux people
It's as if he never read the numbers in the OP! :thatsright: :mental: :whatever:
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DUmors never let things like facts ever affect their warped opinion, or the spewing of it.
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2 years ago, I worked as an overnight cashier at the local Walmart. The isle they kept open at night was the cigarette isle, right across from the bank, which KEPT their D*#@ED TV on CNN! The only time it wasn't on CNN was if there was a Saturday night NASCAR race. I got so tired of seeing Nancy Grace's face, I haven't watched CNN since!
Now, when I have to make a midnight run to Walmart, it's either on Fox News, or ESPN....
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The only reason the monkeys over at DU are amazed at anything is because they have no concept of anything outside of their little shelter over there and whoa to any that deviate from their idea of normal.
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When we were going out regularly to this one sports bar, I had bought a small universal remote that I programmed for the TV the bar had in the darts area. It was usually on some sports channel, but I always put it on FNC.
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havocmom
7. Had the car into the dealer for oil change, they tried to sell us new car
Told them I won't buy anything again from any place that makes me suffer through FOX news.
Next oil change.... no FOX. I am thinking I am not the only person who complained.
Liar.
Without exception, anytime I've had to sit in a car dealerships' waiting room to have work done, everyone in there just leaves the TV on the channel it's set out of the desire to not want to upset anyone else who's in there waiting for their car that might be watching. On rare occasions, I've seen someone get up and ask if anyone's watching a particular show and if they can check to see what else is on, but it's never a "I don't wanna watch this station" type of thing, it's always something like an infomercial has come on.
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What is funny most of them have probably never watched FN in their life. They just parrot the sewage the hear from fellow DUmmies and on MSDNC.
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What is funny most of them have probably never watched FN in their life. They just parrot the sewage the hear from fellow DUmmies and on MSDNC.
That's pretty much how DUmmies operate....
They have never listened to Rush, Hannity, Beck, Boortz, Medved, etc., but they don't have to, because they already "know" that they are all . (Fill in the blank with whatever derogatory word de jour the elites are using).
Liberals in general and DUmmies in particular have NOT been educated, merely indoctrinated beyond their intelligence....
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Obviously these nitwits have never been in an airport.
It's about the only place I have to allow myself to be afflicted with the pus-filled abscess that is CNN. Probably accounts for about 50% of their viewership.
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Is it just me? The places I go to, like banks, restaurants, offices, etc. don't have TV's. The only TVs I've seen in restaurants are sports bars, and those are tuned to sports. I'm just not seeing what the loons are seeing.
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Is it just me? The places I go to, like banks, restaurants, offices, etc. don't have TV's. The only TVs I've seen in restaurants are sports bars, and those are tuned to sports. I'm just not seeing what the loons are seeing.
I don't pay much attention to televisions in public areas (or even, I guess, private areas), as I can't hear what's being said, and closed-captioning sucks worse than a busted vacuum cleaner.
Once in a while, in passing, I look at a screen, and what I usually see is that the left half has the anchorman telling one story, while the right half, divided into two quarters, one stacked atop the other, has two other stories being related at the same time. And then there's the script crawling along the bottom of the screen.
Isn't this sort of like four people all talking at the same time?
How does one put up with this crap?
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Is it just me? The places I go to, like banks, restaurants, offices, etc. don't have TV's. The only TVs I've seen in restaurants are sports bars, and those are tuned to sports. I'm just not seeing what the loons are seeing.
That's because we actually LIVE in the real world, not whatever utopian hellhole DUmmies dwell in, or imagine that they do.
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That's pretty much how DUmmies operate....
They have never listened to Rush, Hannity, Beck, Boortz, Medved, etc., but they don't have to, because they already "know" that they are all . (Fill in the blank with whatever derogatory word de jour the elites are using).
Liberals in general and DUmmies in particular have NOT been educated, merely indoctrinated beyond their intelligence....
That's why they're liberals.
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Is it just me? The places I go to, like banks, restaurants, offices, etc. don't have TV's. The only TVs I've seen in restaurants are sports bars, and those are tuned to sports. I'm just not seeing what the loons are seeing.
The only place I have seen faux snooze on the tv is Logan's steakhouse it was on one of the 12 tvs in there. The rest were sports.
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I think I might have heard somewhere that the ratings people count every person who walks within 1000 yards of a television tuned to FNC as a viewer. I think I also might have heard somewhere that KKKarl Rove pays people and businesses $100,000 worth of old Nazi gold Joooooo teeth to tune into FNC.
Therefore, MSNBC is really teh winnah!
/DUmmy mode
What a bunch of friggin idiots.
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The McDonalds in my town here has FNC tuned in pretty much all the time. I'm very glad about it, actually. Can't see the screen for shit due to the small TVs, but I tend to pay attention if I see the "Breaking news yellow and white(formerly red and white) flashing.
AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-24-10 11:12 PM
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17. But they will definitely lose the business of the great majority of NON-faux people
So...the little guy's businesses are safe then.
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Frank said:
Isn't this sort of like four people all talking at the same time?
How does one put up with this crap?
It's at its very worst on the Saturday morning Fox business shows. They put 1 or 2 liberals on, and 3 or 4 conservatives on, as a panel. They do talk over each other, and the designated moderator does not rein them in properly. You can't understand any of them. Drives me crazy. I would have a mic silencer right in front of me if I were the mod.
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Frank said:
It's at its very worst on the Saturday morning Fox business shows. They put 1 or 2 liberals on, and 3 or 4 conservatives on, as a panel. They do talk over each other, and the designated moderator does not rein them in properly. You can't understand any of them. Drives me crazy. I would have a mic silencer right in front of me if I were the mod.
Did you see the one on Saturday morning that Wayne Roger's is on? They got pretty heated. Hard to get much of anything out of it... :(
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Lately the left side of the panels seem to be shouting down any attempt at conversation on most of the shows. Fox News Sunday is a rare ecception. Both sides are respectful.
Has anyone else felt this way?
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Lately the left side of the panels seem to be shouting down any attempt at conversation on most of the shows. Fox News Sunday is a rare ecception. Both sides are respectful.
Has anyone else felt this way?
It seems like some of the left are jumping on the "race" wagon any time a question is asked. They don't even wait for the question, just start in on racism. And some are sticking to the "party line" so closely, they just ignore the questions and give a what appears to be a pre-programmed answer.
Did you happen to see FNS yesterday, with Howard Dean. Chris Wallace kept asking him if he had actually watched FN last week regarding the Sherrod mess. It was so easy to tell, that Dean was only repeating what he had "heard" from someone else. He kept trying to say that it was Fox that released the doctored up tape.
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It seems like some of the left are jumping on the "race" wagon any time a question is asked. They don't even wait for the question, just start in on racism. And some are sticking to the "party line" so closely, they just ignore the questions and give a what appears to be a pre-programmed answer.
Did you happen to see FNS yesterday, with Howard Dean. Chris Wallace kept asking him if he had actually watched FN last week regarding the Sherrod mess. It was so easy to tell, that Dean was only repeating what he had "heard" from someone else. He kept trying to say that it was Fox that released the doctored up tape.
I saw that. Howard Dean is a lying tool of a Dim-rat. But I repeat myself.
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I saw that. Howard Dean is a lying tool of a Dim-rat. But I repeat myself.
Glenn Beck mentioned it at the start of his show tonight.
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It seems like some of the left are jumping on the "race" wagon any time a question is asked. They don't even wait for the question, just start in on racism. And some are sticking to the "party line" so closely, they just ignore the questions and give a what appears to be a pre-programmed answer.
IMHO it ties into the preplanned talking points and attacks the members of the MSM were setting out on their Journolist list serv site that the Daily Caller has been reporting on.
Did you happen to see FNS yesterday, with Howard Dean. Chris Wallace kept asking him if he had actually watched FN last week regarding the Sherrod mess. It was so easy to tell, that Dean was only repeating what he had "heard" from someone else. He kept trying to say that it was Fox that released the doctored up tape.
Howard is an embarrassment:
DEAN: Let's just be blunt about this. I don't think Newt Gingrich is a racist and you're certainly not a racist, but I think Fox News did something that was absolutely racist. They took a, they had an obligation to find out what was really within the clip. They have been pushing a theme of black racism with this phony Black Panther crap and this, this business, and Sotomayor and all this other stuff. You, I think you got to be very, I think the, look, the Tea Party called out their racist fringe, and I think the Republican Party's got to stop appealing to its racist fringe. And Fox News is what did that.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/25/howard-dean-calls-fox-news-racist-chris-wallace-pushes-back#ixzz0ur0rQttn
WALLACE: Let me ask my question and then you can answer. Why do you think the Obama White House administration fired her before she name ever appeared on Fox News?
DEAN: Did you play, did Fox News play the clip that turned out to be inaccurate?
WALLACE: After she was fired.
DEAN: Right. I don't think it matters whether it was before or after.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/25/howard-dean-calls-fox-news-racist-chris-wallace-pushes-back#ixzz0ur1I18Ao
I'm more and more smelling a set up with how the WH and the media are treating this.
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this phony Black Panther crap
And that's when I jumped up and started yelling at the TV. Chris should have called him out on that. What's so phony about it? It's on the tape!
And, debk is right. The lefties adhere to their talking points so much, they don't even answer the question. It sets my teeth on edge.
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And that's when I jumped up and started yelling at the TV. Chris should have called him out on that. What's so phony about it? It's on the tape!
And, debk is right. The lefties adhere to their talking points so much, they don't even answer the question. It sets my teeth on edge.
I saw that. They were just joshing folks when they called white people crackers and stuff like that we just don't have a sense of humor. After all if a cracker uses the N word there is no outrage from the left they just laugh and say "those crazy crackers are at it again". :mental:
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I saw that. They were just joshing folks when they called white people crackers and stuff like that we just don't have a sense of humor. After all if a cracker uses the N word there is no outrage from the left they just laugh and say "those crazy crackers are at it again". :mental:
There was actually someone over at NewsBusters on this topic trying to defend what Dean said about the case being phony. The DUmmie seemed to be basing it's argument on the fact that "no voters who felt they'd been intimidated or disenfranchised had come forward to make a complaint".
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There was actually someone over at NewsBusters on this topic trying to defend what Dean said about the case being phony. The DUmmie seemed to be basing it's argument on the fact that "no voters who felt they'd been intimidated or disenfranchised had come forward to make a complaint".
Actually doesn't surprise me one bit that these folks didn't speak up. They knew they would be called racist if they complained.
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There was actually someone over at NewsBusters on this topic trying to defend what Dean said about the case being phony. The DUmmie seemed to be basing it's argument on the fact that "no voters who felt they'd been intimidated or disenfranchised had come forward to make a complaint".
Of course no one came forward...they were too damn scared to come forward.
I was in college in the early 70's, 50 miles outside of Chicago. We had a Black Panther organization on campus.
That was really my first experience with blacks that weren't school aquaintances. There weren't many in my high school, but they were jocks, cheerleaders, student council, good students and were being "raised" in very similar home environments to the white kids. My HS had well over 3000 kids in 3 grades in it....it was not a "small school".
The BP's on my campus could be scary when there were more than two in a group. I remember how they would walk down the sidewalks. Like most places, people going one direction usually walked on one side, the opposite on the other side...similar to road traffic. Not the BP's. They would walk so that they blocked the entire sidewalk in whichever direction they were going. I was not very big, and basically a non-confrontational chicken...I would just step off the sidewalk....it was easier. Even so, it was common, if you were a white girl...especially if alone... for them to make some obscene remark or gesture. I don't know if they would talk smack to white guys or not....probably not too many white guys would have admitted to it, if they had.
Even back then, they were treated with kid gloves. Illinois had that time, had what was called the CHANCE program for minority students - even if only 1/16th of a minority. Their tuition and fees, dorm room/board, books, and a monthly stipend of $45, was totally supplied by the state....as long as they maintained a "C" average. I was still living in the dorm in my junior year, and there were a bunch of the CHANCE students on my floor. Our dorms were coed and open visitation, and these kids partied half the night and slept during the day. They still managed to maintain their required "C" averages, because all the instructors were too afraid of the BP's to give a CHANCE student a bad grade.
No one who lives in an area where there are BP's are going to complain. Too many of them remember how the Black Panther organization was 40 years ago. I don't care what the "new" BP's are supposed to be like...they will always be what they always have been, as far as I'm concerned.