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The Bar => The Lounge => Topic started by: BEG on June 23, 2010, 07:44:01 PM
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My brother called me a little while ago, talking a mile a minute (he had just taken a hydrocodone). First let me say that my brother is VERY strange and a moonbat. He once wanted me to make him a quilt of a chalk outline of a dead body... I refused. My grandparents bought 4 extra grave sites when they bought thier plots years ago. My other brother is burried there and so will my brother I'm talking about now. He is obsessed about who will be burried on the other side of him as well as on the other side of his head and feet. He talks about it all the time.
Anyway, I could go on but it would get too long. Here is where I want to ask you guys if you think this is morbid. He told me he was going to take a picture (or a chalk rubbing or whatever you call it) of our brother's headstone, frame it and give it to my mom for Christmas. First thing I thought was WTF?!? I told him NOT to do that. Seriously, would you want a life size chalk "rubbing" or picture of your son's gravestone framed and hanging on the wall?
I swear I don't know where my brother gets his strange ideas.
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If he does the headstone rubbing you should seriously consider paying someone to kick his ass. Just sayin'.
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If he does the headstone rubbing you should seriously consider paying someone to kick his ass. Just sayin'.
I seriously wonder how we came from the same parents. He doesn't know when he is out of line, it's like he has some disconnect in his brain. The things I could tell you.....
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I have heard of people doing gravestone rubbings of old and peculiar headstones, but not for the reason you are saying. That is creepy.
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Well, I know that after losing my brother, death became very very real for me. How did he handle your other brother's death? I am just wondering if this is related to that.
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a common side side effect of vicodin is euphoria,although I doubt it would amp a person up,that is caused by something else.
yep that is a morbid thought/idea but to each his own.
My Dad is buried on top of my mother. My Lil sis thought that was crass/morbid at first.
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Well, I know that after losing my brother, death became very very real for me. How did he handle your other brother's death? I am just wondering if this is related to that.
He was just as upset as me but he has always been very strange and obsessed with death as well as shocking people. For instance he would love to be the "piss Christ" guy, he thinks that guy is a true artist. He wants to shock, not bring beauty to peoples lives. When he came back for Christmas he really pissed me off, he said that my brother Mark got off easy because he died and now he doesn't have to worry about bills or his mortgage any more. I told him that that was totally screwed up thinking. I also told him to NEVER say that to our mom. I was secretly thinking "you don't either" about paying his motgage or bills. He is 49 and lives with my dad a filed bankruptcy. He has lived with my dad for about 10 years and filed for bankruptcy a few years ago so we can't even blame the economy.
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Yup that is not only strange but totally inappropriate for a gift....I would be mortified. Some of the things you said are pretty funny if they weren't so macabre.
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When my mother was killed, I couldn't go to the funeral, because I was still in ICU.
My mother's oldest brother's wife...took pictures of the casket - flag draped and flower draped ( :whatever: ).....so that "Debbie would know that her mother was really dead".
She showed them to me when I got out of the hospital about a month later.
I didn't need a picture of a f'n coffin to know that my mother was dead.
Your mother doesn't need a "rubbing of a headstone" or any other damn thing to know her son is dead.
Sorry, BEG....but your brother wanting to do something like that, is just cruel and sadistic.
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When my mother was killed, I couldn't go to the funeral, because I was still in ICU.
My mother's oldest brother's wife...took pictures of the casket - flag draped and flower draped ( :whatever: ).....so that "Debbie would know that her mother was really dead".
She showed them to me when I got out of the hospital about a month later.
I didn't need a picture of a f'n coffin to know that my mother was dead.
Your mother doesn't need a "rubbing of a headstone" or any other damn thing to know her son is dead.
Sorry, BEG....but your brother wanting to do something like that, is just cruel and sadistic.
To be fair, I don't think he wanted to do it for some cruel reason, I think he seriously didn't know that it is over the line.
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He was just as upset as me but he has always been very strange and obsessed with death as well as shocking people. For instance he would love to be the "piss Christ" guy, he thinks that guy is a true artist. He wants to shock, not bring beauty to peoples lives. When he came back for Christmas he really pissed me off, he said that my brother Mark got off easy because he died and now he doesn't have to worry about bills or his mortgage any more. I told him that that was totally screwed up thinking. I also told him to NEVER say that to our mom. I was secretly thinking "you don't either" about paying his motgage or bills. He is 49 and lives with my dad a filed bankruptcy. He has lived with my dad for about 10 years and filed for bankruptcy a few years ago so we can't even blame the economy.
Yikes. Sounds like he has some issues. And what a horrible thing to say about your other brother. One thing about my brother's death is that it brought us so much closer together, but many times the opposite it true. Sounds like he has been having some issues though before that. I am sorry. We certainly don't get to pick our family. We just love them, and then cuss them out when they leave. ;) Good luck with him. Not sure what to tell you.
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My brother called me a little while ago, talking a mile a minute (he had just taken a hydrocodone). First let me say that my brother is VERY strange and a moonbat. He once wanted me to make him a quilt of a chalk outline of a dead body... I refused. My grandparents bought 4 extra grave sites when they bought thier plots years ago. My other brother is burried there and so will my brother I'm talking about now. He is obsessed about who will be burried on the other side of him as well as on the other side of his head and feet. He talks about it all the time.
Anyway, I could go on but it would get too long. Here is where I want to ask you guys if you think this is morbid. He told me he was going to take a picture (or a chalk rubbing or whatever you call it) of our brother's headstone, frame it and give it to my mom for Christmas. First thing I thought was WTF?!? I told him NOT to do that. Seriously, would you want a life size chalk "rubbing" or picture of your son's gravestone framed and hanging on the wall?
I swear I don't know where my brother gets his strange ideas.
Sounds like he hasn't come to terms with your other brothers death. I am suspect of the hydrocodone also. It does not help moods at all. You are correct in telling him NOT to do that. Good luck with him. :heart:
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I swear I don't know where my brother gets his strange ideas.
Well, not to overstate the obvious, but drugs'll do some ****ed up shit to a mind.
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Well, not to overstate the obvious, but drugs'll do some ****ed up shit to a mind.
His weirdness has nothing to do with the hydrocodone. He has always been weird. He is taking the hydrocodone because he broke his tooth and the dentist didn't want to do anything until he has been on antibiotics for awhile. Although he LOVES hydrocodone.
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A coworker lost her 23 year old son to a hydrocodone addiction. Be sure he is using it for genuine purposes...when you said he "loves" hydrocodone, a red flag went up.
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I guess it depends. People take comfort in being able to go and visit the grave but if someone is clear across the country and they were very close, maybe?
I certainly would not give a "gift" like that without knowing that it would be of some comfort to the person recieving it.
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A coworker lost her 23 year old son to a hydrocodone addiction. Be sure he is using it for genuine purposes...when you said he "loves" hydrocodone, a red flag went up.
He is using it for a legit reason now but he has used my dad's before. My dad never took it (he had it after his knee replacement surgery) and my brother found it while he was cleaning out the bathroom. He said he used it for his back but who knows. He has also gotten it for back pain from his GP before. You would think he would be very careful about taking it as our brother died from a methadone overdose almost two years ago.
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I guess it depends. People take comfort in being able to go and visit the grave but if someone is clear across the country and they were very close, maybe?
I certainly would not give a "gift" like that without knowing that it would be of some comfort to the person recieving it.
I called my mom, she would not want a "gift" like that. In fact, it upset her. She sometimes gets really upset at how odd my brother is which was part of the reason she got upset when I called her.
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Sounds like it's mostly the drugs talking BEG, but yes, it's morbid as all get out. It also sounds like he may be mixing his prescription drugs with recreational pharmaceuticals.
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Whats his DUmp name?
Horrible, I know. :evillaugh:
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Whats his DUmp name?
Horrible, I know. :evillaugh:
I have asked him several times because always has their talking points. He acts like he doesn't know what I'm talking about.
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I have asked him several times because always has their talking points. He acts like he doesn't know what I'm talking about.
He must be a Huffie or Kossack then :innocent:
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He must be a Huffie or Kossack then :innocent:
He has quoted Huffington Post before, he loves Bill Maher, Olbermann and Maddow.
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...he loves Bill Maher, Olbermann and Maddow.
I guess somebody has to.
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He has quoted Huffington Post before, he loves Bill Maher, Olbermann and Maddow.
Holy cow! I wouldn't know what to do if I had a brother that was that far separated from reality!
Euthanasia comes to mind!
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Holy cow! I wouldn't know what to do if I had a brother that was that far separated from reality!
Euthanasia comes to mind!
BEG, some men never out grow the sense of humor that they had when they were 12-13 years old.
There are times when my sons will for some reason think it a good idea to poke me with some cockamamie idea that they know will turn me inside out.
Grown men with family's and responsibilities will at times cause their friends to hyperventilate when they want to see the look on a friends face when they, say, put a rubber snake in their work boots.
Drugs most of the time have nothing to do with some of the crazy things ----And I admit some of the stuff I have seen in my time was very incomprehensible to this Female.
Years and years ago I worked day shift at a tavern outside the gate of a naval base and one afternoon was asked to work a Chiefs Initiation.
Let me tell you my dear, there is no limit that men will not go for to have a good laugh at others expense.
How old did you say your brother is, perhaps he still is just a little brother that likes to STILL poke his sister to get a responce, for good or bad, did he ever put a rubber spider under your pillow when you were kids.???
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BEG, some men never out grow the sense of humor that they had when they were 12-13 years old.
There are times when my sons will for some reason think it a good idea to poke me with some cockamamie idea that they know will turn me inside out.
Grown men with family's and responsibilities will at times cause their friends to hyperventilate when they want to see the look on a friends face when they, say, put a rubber snake in their work boots.
Drugs most of the time have nothing to do with some of the crazy things ----And I admit some of the stuff I have seen in my time was very incomprehensible to this Female.
Years and years ago I worked day shift at a tavern outside the gate of a naval base and one afternoon was asked to work a Chiefs Initiation.
Let me tell you my dear, there is no limit that men will not go for to have a good laugh at others expense.
How old did you say your brother is, perhaps he still is just a little brother that likes to STILL poke his sister to get a responce, for good or bad, did he ever put a rubber spider under your pillow when you were kids.???
I was speaking of the idiot listening to liberal talk show hosts. You ever listen to these asshats? Bill Maher is as un-American as it gets. If it were up to me, I'd pull a Stalin on him!
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I was speaking of the idiot listening to liberal talk show hosts. You ever listen to these asshats? Bill Maher is as un-American as it gets. If it were up to me, I'd pull a Stalin on him!
I used to watch him....it was a good chuckle. He had 3 panelists on, and they were at least a mix of consevative, liberal and independent.
It seemed though, after the election, he became even more weird....too weird to tolerate. Even his panelists are to the extremes. To just call them "liberal" is not enough....sometimes "weird" is not enough either.
I haven't watched him in quite some time.
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I used to watch him....it was a good chuckle. He had 3 panelists on, and they were at least a mix of consevative, liberal and independent.
It seemed though, after the election, he became even more weird....too weird to tolerate. Even his panelists are to the extremes. To just call them "liberal" is not enough....sometimes "weird" is not enough either.
I haven't watched him in quite some time.
Traitor is the best one I can come up with! The guy hates America. Even his voice is enough to drive me to drinkin'! Course, so is gettin' out o' bed! lol!
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I used to watch him....it was a good chuckle. He had 3 panelists on, and they were at least a mix of consevative, liberal and independent.
It seemed though, after the election, he became even more weird....too weird to tolerate. Even his panelists are to the extremes. To just call them "liberal" is not enough....sometimes "weird" is not enough either.
I haven't watched him in quite some time.
I quit watching him shortly after he moved from Comedy Central to ABC . It was there that his leftiness really took off.
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BEG, some men never out grow the sense of humor that they had when they were 12-13 years old.
There are times when my sons will for some reason think it a good idea to poke me with some cockamamie idea that they know will turn me inside out.
Grown men with family's and responsibilities will at times cause their friends to hyperventilate when they want to see the look on a friends face when they, say, put a rubber snake in their work boots.
Drugs most of the time have nothing to do with some of the crazy things ----And I admit some of the stuff I have seen in my time was very incomprehensible to this Female.
Years and years ago I worked day shift at a tavern outside the gate of a naval base and one afternoon was asked to work a Chiefs Initiation.
Let me tell you my dear, there is no limit that men will not go for to have a good laugh at others expense.
How old did you say your brother is, perhaps he still is just a little brother that likes to STILL poke his sister to get a responce, for good or bad, did he ever put a rubber spider under your pillow when you were kids.???
He is 49 and he didn't mean it as a joke. He was serious and thought there was nothing wrong with it. He wasn't a jokester when we were young. He has always been "off" and it is not intentional on his part. He thinks differently than other people, even differently than our other brother who died, he was a liberal too but not weird like my brother I'm talking about here.
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Hmmm... My Dad's death was a celebration, so a rubbing of his headstone would be very cool to the family.
When he died we gave my uncle (the man who gave my father a kidney, and me a father for 20 more years, and who was the best man in my wedding) my father's medical alert bracelets and neclace. It was THE most emotional time for me - way more than my father's funeral.
Point being, for us it would be cool. Hell, I'd frame it as somewhat of an Ansel Adams' art piece. So I guess it all depends on how your Mom feels about things...
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yep morbid!!! But like you said BEG, he's not aware of being over the line and clearly that's a pattern with him.
No way I would want such a thing!!! I can't imagine any mother wanting that.
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Hmmm... My Dad's death was a celebration, so a rubbing of his headstone would be very cool to the family.
When he died we gave my uncle (the man who gave my father a kidney, and me a father for 20 more years, and who was the best man in my wedding) my father's medical alert bracelets and neclace. It was THE most emotional time for me - way more than my father's funeral.
Point being, for us it would be cool. Hell, I'd frame it as somewhat of an Ansel Adams' art piece. So I guess it all depends on how your Mom feels about things...
Yeah that isn't my Mom.
After my brother died my Mom went to my brothers house in MN to find his baby book. His wife gave my Mom his glasses, my Mom gave them to me. Sometimes I take them out just to remember what they look like. Back when we were kids the school thought I needed glasses. My mom took me and by chance took my brother to get our eyes checked. Mine were fine but my brothers were terrible. I remember being in the car when he first got his glasses. He was shocked at how clear the leaves were on the tree and how crisp the colors were. I remember that day like it was yesterday. :(
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Yeah that isn't my Mom.
Then inappropriate... greatly so.
After my brother died my Mom went to my brothers house in MN to find his baby book. His wife gave my Mom his glasses, my Mom gave them to me. Sometimes I take them out just to remember what they look like. Back when we were kids the school thought I needed glasses. My mom took me and by chance took my brother to get our eyes checked. Mine were fine but my brothers were terrible. I remember being in the car when he first got his glasses. He was shocked at how clear the leaves were on the tree and how crisp the colors were. I remember that day like it was yesterday. :(
I have a photo-copy of the ID necklace... My Aunt did it for me. If I ever get around to not being such a wuss, it'll be a tattoo... 11 years and it's still sitting in my desk...