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Title: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: cavegal on May 15, 2010, 02:35:55 PM
I cannot stand Cameron and the loony left.. I hear it is a great movie, should I give up my feelings about politics's and watch it. Please tell me what you all think! Thanks :popcorn:
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: thundley4 on May 15, 2010, 02:37:17 PM
If you can watch it for free, go for it.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: dutch508 on May 15, 2010, 02:45:52 PM
It's not a bad movie. It's just a retelling of other stories in a new setting. I did like the batter scenes. Worth the watch- but don't expect many suprises.

You want to watch a great film in the sci-fi range, here are two:

Gamer

Pandorum
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 15, 2010, 02:46:26 PM
I heard the CGI is really good.

Well, as for originality....

(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2938/mediahttp9gagcomphotdab.jpg)
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Attero Dominatus on May 15, 2010, 02:52:44 PM
It was not only moonbattish, it was simplistic and implausible. Read my take on the movie. http://libertyfic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=restricted&action=display&thread=235
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 15, 2010, 02:56:43 PM
It was not only moonbattish, it was simplistic and implausible. Read my take on the movie. http://libertyfic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=restricted&action=display&thread=235

I think Disney might have a case for plagiarism here. lol.
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Post by: Attero Dominatus on May 15, 2010, 03:00:43 PM
lol
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Attero Dominatus on May 15, 2010, 03:08:10 PM
I would recommend Iron Man 2 as far as movies go. One of those few movies where a capitalist is a good guy. In fact, a barely disguised Arlen Spector gets told off by Mr. Stark early in the film.

A good review of it is here: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/iron-man-2-a-love-letter-to-ronald-reagan/
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 15, 2010, 03:09:29 PM
The first one wasn't so hot. It was an anti-military message.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: cavegal on May 15, 2010, 03:10:13 PM
It was not only moonbattish, it was simplistic and implausible. Read my take on the movie. http://libertyfic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=restricted&action=display&thread=235
Thanks I really do not think i want to watch it. Hubby did last night I did peek in once to see graphics looked good. I just do not think I like the story line. Your review confirmed  it for me, although maybe some day?  FGL had seen that before thanks also for reminding me. Cameron is a buffoon to say the least. I did like most of his other films, this time he went to PC , I cannot stand when Hollywood types dis us. He hates this country and if it were not for this country he would be nobody!
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: cavegal on May 15, 2010, 03:12:19 PM
I would recommend Iron Man 2 as far as movies go. One of those few movies where a capitalist is a good guy. In fact, a barely disguised Arlen Spector gets told off by Mr. Stark early in the film.

A good review of it is here: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/iron-man-2-a-love-letter-to-ronald-reagan/
  I am looking forward to Iron Man 2. Although I read a review not so good? I will have to see if I come across that review. It was a bit ago so?
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Attero Dominatus on May 15, 2010, 03:18:40 PM
Thanks I really do not think i want to watch it. Hubby did last night I did peek in once to see graphics looked good. I just do not think I like the story line. Your review confirmed  it for me, although maybe some day?  FGL had seen that before thanks also for reminding me. Cameron is a buffoon to say the least. I did like most of his other films, this time he went to PC , I cannot stand when Hollywood types dis us. He hates this country and if it were not for this country he would be nobody!

Cameron's film Aliens had at least one standard hollywood trope (evil corporation) but the Marines were not portrayed in such a hostile light as they were in Avatar, which made it enjoyable if one could ignore said tropes. Avatar went way off the deep end with the tree hugging crap.

He even sidestepped his usual attention to physical plausibility with Pandora itself to get his message across. Gas giants produce huge tidal forces and a moon that close to a gas giant would have been a toxic, volcanic hell due to tidal heating. Not to mention Pandora would have been tidally locked that close; one side would have always faced the planet like the Moon does with Earth, and that is not even counting radiation belts, but I digress.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 15, 2010, 03:27:37 PM
A ship pulls into orbit and sends down a representative...

hey aliens.... we have a deal for you. All we want are some of these rocks and we have some cool technology for you.

"Gee, thanks humans"

....

Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: cavegal on May 15, 2010, 03:31:21 PM
Cameron's film Aliens had at least one standard hollywood trope (evil corporation) but the Marines were not portrayed in such a hostile light as they were in Avatar, which made it enjoyable if one could ignore said tropes. Avatar went way off the deep end with the tree hugging crap.

He even sidestepped his usual attention to physical plausibility with Pandora itself to get his message across. Gas giants produce huge tidal forces and a moon that close to a gas giant would have been a toxic, volcanic hell due to tidal heating. Not to mention Pandora would have been tidally locked that close; one side would have always faced the planet like the Moon does with Earth, and that is not even counting radiation belts, but I digress.
Yes Global Warming issue movie? Main reason cannot watch.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Attero Dominatus on May 15, 2010, 03:37:15 PM
A ship pulls into orbit and sends down a representative...

hey aliens.... we have a deal for you. All we want are some of these rocks and we have some cool technology for you.

"Gee, thanks humans"

....



If a plot like that went into detail on the repercussions of giving primitive peoples technology (massive escalation of the aliens' internal violence, especially if technology was given to the wrong faction, like a communistic faction) it might be interesting. Better than Avatar for sure! lol
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 15, 2010, 03:44:31 PM
thats true. hhmm.
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What did you guys think of the idiotic 2012??

The most realistic part is the government trying to save themselves and their buddies.

At the end of the movie I was thinking there is no way these people were going to be able to re-establish civilization. None of those people were going to be able to grow food or do any of the building blocks. When their supplies ran out, it would all be over.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Attero Dominatus on May 15, 2010, 03:55:17 PM
I never saw 2012. I read about the movie, specifically how neutrinos cause the Earth's core to heat up and start off a chain of disasters. Neutrinos are nearly massless particles that almost never interact with matter and go straight through the Earth and every other gas, liquid and solid. It was almost as bad as The Core in terms of implausibility.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 15, 2010, 03:57:15 PM
I never saw 2012. I read about the movie and saw how the disaster how neutrinos cause the Earth's core to heat up and start off a chain of disasters. Neutrinos are nearly massless particles that almost never interact with matter and go straight through the Earth and every other gas, liquid and solid. It was almost as bad as The Core in terms of implausibility.

I am sure it was something about "global warming" causing the neutrino's to act different....  :rotf:
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: dutch508 on May 15, 2010, 03:59:23 PM
I am sure it was something about "global warming" causing the neutrino's to act different....  :rotf:


2012 is a solar activity peak time. More sunspots, etc.

Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: djones520 on May 15, 2010, 07:54:50 PM
I thought it was a great movie.  Gotta be able to watch these flicks without injecting politics into it.  I remember when Superman Returns came out, everyone was ripshit pissed about some things they heard on the internet.  Turns out it was a great frikken movie.

We laugh at the DUmmies all the time for being unable to seperate their private lives from politics, so you gotta make sure you can do it as well.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 15, 2010, 08:02:35 PM
We laugh at the DUmmies all the time for being unable to seperate their private lives from politics, so you gotta make sure you can do it as well.

James Cameron admitted it was political I heard
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: djones520 on May 15, 2010, 08:48:06 PM
James Cameron admitted it was political I heard

So?  I heard everything he said about it before hand.  Then I sat through the entire movie, and did not have a SINGLE thought about politics the entire time.  I just enjoyed a good movie for being a good movie.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: cavegal on May 15, 2010, 08:56:47 PM
Thanks for all the ideas. I am glad I asked here...  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: bkg on May 16, 2010, 12:10:18 AM
watched it on Monday in a hotel.

I hate Cameren. He's an idiot, and proved such with this movie.

Dances w/ Wolves meets the Smurfs. Got bored. Dumb movie.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Chris_ on May 16, 2010, 12:11:52 AM
Dances w/ Wolves meets the Smurfs. Got bored. Dumb movie.

:rofl: yup
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: longview on May 16, 2010, 03:37:11 PM
Yeah, it was kind of dumb, but the special effects were cool!  I still enjoyed it. 
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 16, 2010, 07:40:20 PM
Avatar is an okay movie. Go see District 9. It is better.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: cavegal on May 16, 2010, 07:56:50 PM
Avatar is an okay movie. Go see District 9. It is better.
I enjoyed District 9. 
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 16, 2010, 07:58:01 PM
I enjoyed District 9. 

District 9 was good.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Thor on May 18, 2010, 12:39:32 PM
I enjoyed Avatar. Was the story line "original" ?? Hardly. I could make many parallels  with the story line. The English and the native Americans comes to mind pretty quickly. The CGI was pretty good.

As far as movies & TV shows  injecting politics, Star Trek, TNG, Star Trek DS9, Star Trek Voyager, & Star Trek Enterprise were ALL rife with politics and social morals injected into them. Hell, District 9 had politics injected into it. I thought District 9 was a little too gory. I wouldn't let the little ones (pre-teens for sure) watch that one.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 19, 2010, 06:17:40 PM
I enjoyed Avatar. Was the story line "original" ?? Hardly. I could make many parallels  with the story line. The English and the native Americans comes to mind pretty quickly. The CGI was pretty good.

As far as movies & TV shows  injecting politics, Star Trek, TNG, Star Trek DS9, Star Trek Voyager, & Star Trek Enterprise were ALL rife with politics and social morals injected into them. Hell, District 9 had politics injected into it. I thought District 9 was a little too gory. I wouldn't let the little ones (pre-teens for sure) watch that one.

I felt Avatar had a weak character development. However, it depicted the future realistically. District 9 had more convincing character development and it was compelling.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Chris_ on May 19, 2010, 06:19:49 PM
'District 9' could have benefited from fewer uses of the word "****".
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Chris on May 19, 2010, 06:21:08 PM
How on Earth did this wind up in the whiny forum?
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: thundley4 on May 19, 2010, 06:33:51 PM
How on Earth did this wind up in the whiny forum?

The noob is still finding her  way around.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Chris on May 19, 2010, 06:37:07 PM
She seems to be doing better than most of the new people that find their way here.  They drop everything in Breaking News or the Dumpster. :whatever:
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: thundley4 on May 19, 2010, 06:40:50 PM
She seems to be doing better than most of the new people that find their way here.  They drop everything in Breaking News or the Dumpster. :whatever:

Sometimes it's difficult to figure out where a thread goes, especially one dealing with both politics , taxes and finances.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Chris_ on May 19, 2010, 06:42:12 PM
Sometimes it's difficult to figure out where a thread goes, especially one dealing with both politics , taxes and finances.

Yup.  It's not always easy.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Duke Nukum on May 19, 2010, 06:42:48 PM
  I am looking forward to Iron Man 2. Although I read a review not so good? I will have to see if I come across that review. It was a bit ago so?
I saw it Saturday.  The fair-to-middlin reviews had me concerned but in the end, I enjoyed far more than the first one.  It's one of the few movies I would love to see again right away.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Chris_ on May 19, 2010, 06:45:16 PM
I enjoyed the first one.  I think I watched it twice.

I really enjoyed 'District 9'... I must have watched that three or four times over a weekend.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Chris_ on May 19, 2010, 07:01:12 PM
I rented 'Sherlock Holmes'.  Eh.  It was okay.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 19, 2010, 07:49:49 PM
'District 9' could have benefited from fewer uses of the word "****".

Fookin' Bliksem!
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: cavegal on May 19, 2010, 08:00:23 PM
The noob is still finding her  way around.
Mrs. noob to you!  :-)  Where should have I posted this question?
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Chris on May 19, 2010, 08:03:20 PM
Usually the Lounge.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: cavegal on May 19, 2010, 08:11:12 PM
Usually the Lounge.
usually so this was OK? no yes?
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Chris on May 19, 2010, 08:12:29 PM
That was a 'yes'.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: cavegal on May 19, 2010, 08:24:47 PM
That was a 'yes'.
Sorry this noob is easily confused so late in the day! :-)
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Chris_ on May 19, 2010, 08:27:05 PM
:drunksailor:

Dinner is done.  Cookies bakin' in the oven.
Title: Re: Avatar Movie should i watch it?
Post by: Duke Nukum on May 19, 2010, 10:54:18 PM
I enjoyed the first one.  I think I watched it twice.

I really enjoyed 'District 9'... I must have watched that three or four times over a weekend.
I enjoyed this:

We Are Iron Men  (http://www.pjtv.com/video/Afterburner_with_Bill_Whittle/_We_Are_Iron_Men/3608/)